tv [untitled] April 18, 2023 10:30pm-11:01pm EEST
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[000:00:00;00] not by chance, so to speak, by a shower of some kind of information, but it was directed by an information company. of course, for ukrainians , there is nothing new in this after bucha, after chernihiv oblast, after kyiv oblast , ukrainians did not learn anything new about russians from these videos , but for the world, since these videos have already become a factor of such a world policy in the world information space, although of course mainly in the western european american, nevertheless, it is obvious that there is some backlash behind this, precisely at this time when russia, so to speak, is possible is trying
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to somehow end this war on the winner's own terms and uh, at a time when negotiations are taking place, it's obviously difficult in the triangle europe, china uh, russia, the united states during russia of course, e is for someone, i guess something is needed, i would look for answers to these here the question is because these videos appear, you see, from nowhere, er, well, i mean the video with the execution and er, the readiness of these allegedly er, combat actions, chvk wagner to testify, they appear as if for some command and er -e previous commenter also drew attention to a quote by prigozhin, who frankly spoke about the destruction of ukrainians, uh, he actually wrote in his article, it is obvious that this is part of the one
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hand, in my opinion, this is part of the internal russian struggle, which, on the other hand, is casting for a leader. here is this uh, so to speak, ultra patriotic a segment of russian society for the casting of its representative and er. that is, everyone is preparing for the period after putin and we see some absolutely inadequate hysterical aggressive er statements or posts of the same dmitry medvedev who is trying to play a role for us of some kind of militant leader, er, these are all, so to speak, an effort of the beauty to show herself to be such a very radical er, maybe all this is going on more, to a greater extent, it indicates an internal
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struggle, as it appears to me, it may have elements of er, the struggle of the special services, the struggle of some er -e structures of the security forces, what exactly is this struggle that started a long time ago? we remember all these showers of information about russian agents abroad even before the hot phase of the war, that is, i would first of all look for a sign of the roots of all these showers of information and this... into some kind of psychopathology already, uh, internal russian uh, conjunctural political uh, prerequisites and goals. indeed, i already agree with you because here is the last this article is beautiful, which he obviously did not write, where does he say that there are no agreements
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only everyone at 0 hard until the end until victory well, actually, he positions himself as a person who is ready to go to victory, of course everyone understands that if he were at the top of power in russia, so to speak, in the main office of the kremlin, and the way he speaks would change significantly, because he would know there are many things that putin knows about and about which the parishioner does not know and what is the end of bakhmut, this is one story when they give you enough shells. because when they didn't give you enough shells, the parishioner was really not so very hot-tempered, he somehow even screamed a little there. and everything else, therefore, from his position, he can be understood, and on the other hand, these uh-uh, all the testimony of the murderer will be. i think it will be good evidence in the gas, because it is a guilty plea and how many times i have said that he did not give such an order and that no one killed, the fact remains a fact, a pile of graves, a pile of torture chambers a lot of evidence that we are receiving today and the most terrible thing in this story. of course, this is also the killing of innocent children. it is simply completely outside, even outside of immorality, not only will it be done, now we have literally
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half an hour and we will divide these so-called woes and cracks and separate putin from them the three most important ones are the russian church. and this is the pressure on freedom of speech because putin became famous for it. russia actually lives in this in its only marathon, of course i 'm not talking about our marathon now, but in them all the channels live in a single marathon, that's enough marathons of propaganda and lies for a long time. well, the third part is obviously the one that should be singled out, it is the russian language in ukraine. i understand that there are a lot of quarrels in the space now and on facebook . please don't teach me how to speak, i won't tell you. where should you go and many other things, such people now they are explaining. i remain on the position that ukraine should have the ukrainian language. lithuania, latvia, estonia came up with this issue in the 90s and they have been in nato for a long time, they have been in the european union for a long time, they do not have any problems, we always have to have ongoing discussions therefore, this is the russian church, the lack of freedom of speech in the mass media, and the russian language is a mountain of collapse - this is putin, who, you know, can come alive with putin's christmas
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even after russia is defeated , but they can come alive in us in ukraine, let's start with the russian church in literally 10 minutes for each grakrax, we will separate somewhere approximately and start from the russian church , we will listen to patriarch kirill, where he said what he thinks, who exactly are ukrainians , what should be the relations between russians it is important for ukrainians to understand that he, the head of the russian church, thinks about us ukrainians, what does all of russia think, please , this will be my personal prayer today, i would ask all of you to join this prayer, so that god may bless the russian land when i mean and speak russian i mean russia, from which the great russians and ukrainians came, russia had other nationalities, but it is the same russia with which we are all connected historically, spiritually, if you want
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, by civilization, the lord will help us through the trials that are now taking place again to find peace by the way, the old man who has grown old wing is already a bad old man, i see the gundyaev there is no cheerfulness and he swam a little and got fatter and fatter and you can see that not all is well with him, well actually they said kirill because it was kirill all of russia told us that you little russians, we all united russia, you have no right to separate , some, well, some kind of civilizational road, because this is all one russia, of which we are a big dew, and we took out the dews, we actually stopped at this point. we have to go through all this, forget to somehow live together next and this whole russian church, led by a wing, continues to operate in ukraine, and p igor, how to get rid of, how to destroy this slide from putin in ukraine, well, first of all, tell the truth as much as possible, eh, from all
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information platforms, from different formats , eh, try to fight with the mimicry that the uoc is doing now, supposedly not the mp, as there is one constantly shouting about the so-called orthodox propagandist in white, which i think you all have already seen from the streams near the kiev-pechersk lavra, this kohanov one, but eh well actually to explain the direct connection of the eyes of the uoc with the russian orthodox church, well, it is enough to show literally three documents and that is necessary. i don't know, it can be written on the boards everywhere , just give boxes, i don't know how this is the first point of the uoc statute, which refers to the charter the second lecture from october 1990, this very document is only the original and not from photoshop, well, the version is where it is
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directly related to the connection through the rpc with the rivne apostolic church and, accordingly , the charter of the rpc. where there is talk of the alleged jurisdiction , including in ukraine literally the connection does not need any major examinations to be done today by a religious scholar, well, everything is as simple as possible and of course we need to talk about it, because despite what the uoc declares , the uoc mp declares about 2 million of its parishioners , these two million are still heterogeneous flock and i think that with most of these people it is possible to carry a language and we saw this , including during these streams near the kyiv-pechersk lavra, and simply people receive information from various sources and receive it in volumes because the fact that you and i
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perfectly understand and know that this does not mean that these people who simply believe in god and think that they go to the ukrainian church so that they even live in their own information bubble, that is, after nine years of war we have to go to these contacts . well, in the end, of course, it is clear that there should be a legislative restriction if the uoc does not give up real subordination, and not as they say about their own independence, it is clear that legislative changes should be adopted regarding the restriction of their activities up to the moment of their contact with the russian orthodox church. well, what is currently being considered in the verkhovna rada, but actually, in my opinion , mr. kovalev is one of the speakers of our
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general staff . er, where does he say that it is better to control such a church from your actually marginal a-a positions than to make them completely, you know, exiles and create a fictitious history for them, supposedly , how do you know, so that they draw analogies for themselves with the first christians there, because it is clear that what you are talking about is not about a religious struggle, but about the struggle against the influence of the aggressor state, therefore, of course , more specific approaches are needed here, but it is necessary to do it and it is obvious that reducing their actual influence, including in various authorities, and this the influence remained with the uoc mp a-and reduce their influence to a few percent e to the same percentages that are supported by the ukrainian society itself, this is only 4-5% for sociology, and e we have a downward trend in
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support of the uoc mp, this actually shows this a small niche that is narrowing and it is clear the further this will happen, the influence of the orthodox church in ukraine will be less and the restoration of full canonicality when all ukrainian orthodoxy will be able to unite around the orthodox church. by the way, we are talking with you on such serious topics the church, the russian language a-a oppresses freedom of speech as if the viewers on youtube e by the way e-e i urge you subscribe like comment on our stream on youtube e-e they write that the last lesson of putin's rags is a horse and a drunkard medvedev and someone writes that the last mountain of kraz is running along the bunker, it is a two-headed chicken. well, it can be. it can be a two-headed chicken, but let's continue our serious conversation, and before i pass the word to mr. maxim, let's see what the russian church actually is. you're talking to nekrasov, who lives well in russia, one of them said, uh, it's winter from the top of the shopkeeper, then he said to dad, well, that is, who in
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russia lives well, actually. this story has passed since the death of nekrasova, in principle, uh, the russian world remains in all its beauty and русский церковный мир in this video, which we will now see, kirill is surrounded by guards, the cattle are there separately and lonesome putin is testifying, let's see, christ will rise , christ will rise, christ will rise, you can see six guards , a bunch of guards. they want to leave in ukraine , maxim, i will ask you a slightly different question, but on the same topic of the church. this is also happening thanks to television, also thanks to the fact that intelligent
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people have access to the mass media, this also affects but does the government understand that this slide must be destroyed if we elect mr. zelensky in the role of harry potter ? with something and similar, well, he needs to destroy this pea cancer , does he have this understanding and desire, the most important thing in your opinion, please, honestly, i can only judge by external signs and manifestations, so to speak , and er, it seems to me that they are so specific how many steps from the evolution of the position of, for example, the same minister of culture tkachenko that uh, after all, such an understanding has come, but it is still in a state of such crystallization, that is , a decision about the uh-uh destruction, so
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to speak, of these uh-uh remnants of russian influence on ukraine or of the russian institutional presence in this case , it is possible to make a decision, but an adequate strategy and , so to speak, a clear understanding of the sequences and some intermediate goals and the final goal is also important and must, therefore, i think that the expert environment needs to focus on helping to come to such an understanding, here is a meaningful one, here i highlighted the following aspects that are the most important in the problem of solving this preservation of russian influence on ukrainian society through the church in this way, the first is exclusively a matter of state competence, this is a proper question
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of institutional uh, who e-e has the right to register church congregations in ukraine, the work of the church congregation if there is a connection with the aggressor state, well, after all, very transparent questions, what is the influence of the russian church based on, step by step and property, what money brings the ukrainian people to this church and property, which is actually also delegated by the ukrainian people, who are actually the sovereign and master of their land, and are also in the use of this administrative unit , which is the russian church in ukraine, and with this , the state must take a very principled and very consistent proposal, it is clear and it is obvious, but of course there is another aspect - these are the parishioners
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, so to speak, of russian churches, which i agree with the previous comment, of course , we need to work, we need to explain what their deceived and it is necessary to understand with understanding what they want and why they actually retain their attachment to some specific, perhaps to some tradition, to their church and so on with these situations, one must understand what is being said about citizens who should be loyal to their state, but the state must understand and find a way to preserve their values within this administrative, so to speak, framework offered by the state. well, the third aspect is even the most difficult and most interesting for me
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from a philosophical point of view - this is to understand how the ukrainian orthodox church will differ significantly from russia , so to speak, in relation to the video we watched , that is, ukrainian orthodoxy has a completely different week, it should be more humane , it should have its own e- e moral aesthetic if you want a program and then people will be able to choose and i have no regrets that they will choose ukrainian , we will take our second step, this is the russian language, well, let's say corruption, can we consider corruption a mountain of putin's crack, no, hardly, because corruption in fact, all over the world there are, to a greater or lesser extent, absolutely corrupt states, there are states with zero tolerance for corruption, let's say denmark or estonia in estonia, when i read a study there, the vast majority of the population in principle does not know what the word corruption means, but i was in lithuania at one
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time - to mine back in 2011. well, somewhere in those years or in 2009, i was in vilnius. could be done online sign documents online, that is, they didn't work all that, and he says that what do you think in the european union, there is no corruption , but it's just not so obvious, that's why i'm leading to the conclusion that corruption is present . told about rampant corruption in russia - this is the swamp that strengthens their structure, if it is removed, it will disappear one day, here is this russian historian, lord, i forgot his name , the famous edward radzinsky said that one of the tsars about whom he speaks, coming to according to the government, whether it was about godunov or about shumska, i don't remember about whom about shumsky, he decided to destroy corruption and he says so, uh, i won't copy razynsky's voice, he is basically known to everyone
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, this is such a thin voice, and he he says that the king did not understand that corruption cannot be destroyed. after all, this is the essence of russian society and life and russian power . that is why you cannot go there, otherwise russia will not be in ukraine . you can. many other countries of the world, but the russian language is really a mountain of crack. and you know, i will make one more remark. i very often see people on facebook write русский мой родной язык и не учите меня мой родной язык и не учите меня, which language they don't speak. can be native to a ukrainian because it is the language of the occupier before the appearance of russia in ukraine there was no russian here , it simply did not exist, well, it did not exist because the ukrainian language means that the ukrainian language, according to statistics, is in the top five most used languages among the world's languages, ukrainian is among the top five most spoken languages in the world. that is, we are somewhere not there, not in the fences, the language is quite common in our country, and the russian language, which i want to emphasize, is the language of the occupier, which destroyed the ukrainian language for a long time, its speakers, its popularizers, its
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authors . the language of the writers is a scientist and so on and so on and so on and that's why today this language is the language of the occupiers when we say that we speak russian we have to take it we speak the language of the occupiers it is definitely possible to relearn everyone in one day but it is necessary to take, as they say, a low start and the correct p igor, in your opinion, what kind of ukrainization is harsh ukrainization, how to destroy this woe, kraks, do not ban the russian language anyway, someone would speak it, but as a phenomenon that says that we as he says now in kinilka, the important words civilization is one phenomenon , we are one civilization, we cannot be separated , and the russian language is proof of that. well, you see , we have one language, and finally, i will say that when the creator, the truskavet, in the russian language , the literary pushkin, the creator was not born yet of the ukrainian literary language, kotlyarevsky has already written the aeneid well, that's why it's about whose literary language is older, mr. igor, please do you know that the slogan of one of the political parties is mentioned somewhere in the 2000s
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, ah, look at ukrainian, listen to ukrainian, read ukrainian, because it's yours, that is, leaving actually , from the content that you consume , your head is being rebuilt accordingly, and you simply start to follow yourself, that even the russian language, which you have used for tens of years, becomes, well, really very problematic, here i have an example of this and i want to say that sometimes when i have to say a few sentences in russian for propaganda purposes, it actually causes me more problems now, although i really am with mother's milk, my first language is my first language , some say it's native, some say it's not, but the first language is russian, but it's not after self-awareness of what the russian language is and what it is today
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as a tool, including the destruction of ukrainians and the expansion of russian borders, because we see how they even write on billboards and city lights that the borders of russia do not end anywhere and where they speak russian, there are russians everywhere, well, that is, it is a clear concept. and when a nuclear state says it. who wants it, you don’t want it, but you yourself refuse to speak russian . but again, i think that it is the fact that we adopted a law on the use of the state language was just a mad breakthrough and it is necessary to protect those assets first of all. i think that the work of mr. kremin may not be sufficient today. perhaps we should give more powers to review the effectiveness
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of the state language. but none the less it is clear that the humanitarian component must be strengthened here - it is imperative that we talk about further state funding and co-financing, not only there . maybe there is a film of some products, but also especially a book from the publishing house. we can see how far the renaissance of this issue is going. of mass information, it is necessary to additionally apply to the regional level , because now, actually, after the denationalization of the local mass media, they closed down and, plus, the war came, there is no plowed field at all, please opportunities now for development, people want to read, including local news , and they will do it in the ukrainian language, and everywhere, i say. where we don't see now, everywhere we need to approach the state language, it's a must in the service. of course, it should be immediately and when they again say that i will not learn this language
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because it is not my native language and so on , as they say about it, well, you know, again , i show myself as an example who is completely self-aware changed his main language and believe me, this has made it much easier on the inside, because i understand that in this way i at least put an additional barrier against that russian aggression. maybe sometime in the future, after tens of years, the russian language will have a slightly different influence, because of course there is its own layer of culture and so further, but i think that the kremlin regime has completely broken everything here and the ukrainian state has no other way than to strengthen ukrainianization itself and also to develop the languages of national minorities and especially indigenous peoples, of course, special emphasis on the crimean tatar language is what we actually have as an additional language adopted in accordance with the law
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on communities, so i think that we will continue to develop the language issue in this direction. russian propaganda, russian influence in belarus, the organization of the united nations is included in the list of conditions that are disappearing , this is a language that has not created beautiful examples of literary creativity, and it is generally rich, by the way, in belarus as well as in ukraine the names of the months have unique names, they are unique, let's say, in europe in general. these are basically latin names that have remained in russia as well. they are also common to many . in i don't know all 12 months in belarusian , let's say i know for sure. well, in my opinion, they have october as shepherd's nest, and in march they have march, well , that is, for many people , that's the language. a great tragedy because the disappearance of languages is like the disappearance of the self
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i don't know the peoples of the countries, the wonders of the world, because all these languages are unique, this is a whole layer of culture that stands behind them. maxim, i am asking you a question about the language. please tell me how you think ukrainization will work . or some other way. ukraine needs to establish its own language today. well, then, whoever wants to, let him learn chinese, japanese, russian , english in our democratic country , please. no one forbids, please. people citizens of ukraine who speak russian, which well, one can argue, native, non-native, which, for whom it is the first and main language of communication, for these it is necessary
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to formulate some kind of clear state policy and, er, it is clear the concept of er, language use in ukraine, which was accepted for them, that i mean again, the same as with the church, i would pay attention to three aspects: the first is the institutional use of the ukrainian language in ukraine, it is a proper action, a state function, and it is a political choice of a citizen of ukraine. that is, this today, it can probably be stated that the use of the ukrainian language as the only official language of the state is the subject of a national consensus of the civil concert and those who try to go beyond this consensus should obviously be brought back to some common denominator
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by political methods as well well here i am i see, there is not much time left, but here the details are superfluous. because here we have everything clear, and here we go on about the actual effect on people who speak russian and prefer the russian language when they view the mass media when they communicate in everyday life when it is possible to choose the language of education for their children or would they like to choose such a language here of course it is necessary to influence by means of encouragement and open opportunities for the reality of self-realization within the ukrainian space , you know i have many friends
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not only in the last year or several years, but since the 90s . this is how they gradually switched to the ukrainian language, and the vast majority of these people switched to the ukrainian language not under pressure, not under, so to speak, not not some kind of giving up the russian language, and because it became desirable for them to speak ukrainian, necessary, pleasant, useful, and so on , that is, everyone poured into the political space in ukraine, the tournament, and this space should be attractive , so it seems to me that, well, some degree, so to speak, of hatred for the russian language language, it is absolutely obvious today , it is completely understandable in connection with the war in connection with
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