[000:00:00;00] of the coordination process of the defense forces of the south nataliya humenyuk, in a certain way, this is justified by these panicked expectations of the same counteroffensive, because we have already seen such uh , when similar uh activity regarding the liberation of the right bank began. more than 50 shellings in our direction, this is the result of a powerful combat day over the past few days, and here at night they tried to activate. it is precisely because of the fact that there is this fear of our activity or not let us prepare for it will ask for an urgent supply of anti-aircraft missile systems in combat acute shortages may allow russia to start large-scale

bombing the publication fainy shaltaetsya with reference to officials writes that ukraine is at the next meeting in the rammstein format. of ammunition for anti-aircraft systems that is decreasing, the journalists of the publication note that in the west they fear that without proper air defense, a long- planned counteroffensive against the occupying forces of the russian troops, the short-range air defense may fail, a topic that ukrainians raise more and more often, if they use all these means, it will open up space for the russian air force well, in fact, today at lunch, defense minister oleksiy reznikov confirmed that patriot anti-aircraft missile systems have arrived in ukraine about this is what he wrote on twitter and published a photo with three installations today, our beautiful ukrainian sky is becoming more protected because

anti-aircraft missile systems of the patriots have arrived in ukraine according to the words of the minister, the ukrainian anti-aircraft fighters mastered them as quickly as they could. well, let me add that one battery of patriots is from four to eight launchers for four missiles each . the united states was the first to announce the transfer of such anti-aircraft missiles back in december of last year . today, the deputy minister of defense of ukraine oleksandr pavlyuk wrote in his telegram channel that patriots from the usa, the netherlands, and germany have already arrived in ukraine. well, germany handed over to ukraine the second of the four promised anti-aircraft missile complexes of the irish slm about this was written by the publication spiegel with a reference to own sources there assure that the transfer to ukraine of one airist and 16 missiles to it took place a few days ago, approximately on april 16. well, let me remind you that the first airist was handed over to ukraine and germany last year in october , what kind of system is this, max grabovskyi will tell

anti-aircraft- airisci missile complex is designed to protect the population of important buildings and facilities, as well as ground troops from air attacks, this is stated on the website of the german developer company dildfense in standard the air defense equipment includes a command post, a multifunctional radar and launchers with anti-aircraft missiles, the army-inform resource reports that a version of the slm system is being put into service in ukraine, according to the magazine defense-technology review, the peculiarity of this modification is that all components are compatible in terms of dimensions and fasteners with standard containers and can can be installed on different vehicles, the launcher is equipped with 8 missiles, the launch is carried out vertically, this makes it possible to avoid the blind

zone above the system and hit targets at 360°, and at the same time, several experts from the defense express portal report that the radar system of the system can track targets at a distance of 250 km, the aristi anti-aircraft missile has a combined guidance system, according to army information , the flight is first controlled by the ground when approaching the target, the guidance itself is turned on, such missiles can hit targets at a distance up to 40 and a height of up to 20 km, their maximum speed is more than 3.5 thousand kilometers per hour, this is three times the speed of sound, this complex is the second of four that promised to transfer germany, the first bundeswehr handed over to the ministry of defense of ukraine in october last year, max grabovsky radio freedom oleksandr musienko, the head of the center for military and legal studies , joins our broadcast p. oleksandr, my

greetings. i congratulate you, mr. oleksandr, why will ukraine ask for more air defense as reported about the sources of the new york times this it is related to the fact that the nature of the war is changing or the threat is increasing, certain things must be said that ppu uh-uh it is always let's say it is a request on every rammstein, that is, it does not disappear anywhere , i want to tell you that it is active as it began since october of last year, it has been dedicated just after russia increased missile terror against the critical infrastructure of ukraine, since then it has been practically every meeting a separate point - it is means of air defense and in the end we see that it works, we get all the additional means, which cannot but please the situation in the following is now the second why more is needed the fact is that now there are additional challenges that are connected with the fact that to carry out the ukrainian counteroffensive

cover is needed, protection from enemy aircraft is needed and in addition to that, the russian aviation, which used to, in principle, now uses quite a lot of attack aircraft that fly su- 25, for example, that fly at low altitudes, which can shoot down even manpads, in principle, provided that they are detected by portable anti-aircraft missile systems, the simplest of which are in the means of air defense, e-e, ukrainian , in order to, say, counteract aircraft that a-a deliver strikes with planning bombs and that can gain altitude, you need to have anti-aircraft missile systems that will get them because the language can go about 10 km, you can go about 11 km, and in order to get it, you need not just manpads , but other additional complexes, so the point here is to cover our counterattack. we need even more means of air

defense. according to how to strengthen our defense of the sky and support the counteroffensive from the air and act both on ground targets and be a means of air defense to shoot down enemy russian planes, then we need more means of air defense, this is in order to cover our troops on land is the first aspect and the second aspect, with the rest, one should not forget that , in principle, the risks of missile attacks and the possibility of russia's use of missiles have not disappeared, despite the fact that they have a serious shortage of these missiles, but in principle they continue their production and they continue there are certain risks of their accumulation. they still exist, and therefore it is necessary and important to saturate the ukrainian air defense, not only not only with direct means of attack, that is, with additional anti-aircraft missile systems although this is also important and, accordingly, the number of missiles to them about the fact that supposedly this second

installation and the second complex are already in ukraine and in general, airisti and patriot and saunsi are the same , how do they coexist with each other. if this is the case , do they duplicate tasks or perform they can perform different tasks. well, they can perform different tasks, so the patriot is a kind of system, they are different because , unlike the ivys, they can work on ballistic missiles, this is important, after all, iris or nasams, they are not they can do this, and the patriot, especially the american ones, which we received this battery, this is a modern battery that is capable of countering all air threats, it is, in principle , the best education from its channels , as well as the system itself, and that is, they are capable of knocking down these complexes. well, for example, what which ballistic missiles are iskander missiles that are now practically not used by russia, but

at the beginning of the full-scale invasion they were active, but in connection with the fact that belarus is now being rebased, additional iskanders are known that is, we must have the appropriate means of security, for example, such missiles as the kh-29e anti-ship missiles. well, this type of anti-ship missiles, as they flew over kremenchuk or along the dnipro, hit a residential building . patriots and iris sanctions can counter them , and they can counter all air targets, that is, they can shoot down airplanes , they can shoot down drones, they can shoot down cruise missiles, but they cannot get ballistic missiles, and if we talk about the fact that they are similar in countering cruise missiles and planes, all of them can shoot down both planes and cruise missiles

, with the exception of the fact that the sampti and patriots have the special ability to shoot down ballistics. mr. oleksandr zelenskyi mentioned at one time that we need at least 20 petro patriots from what we have today. and three patriots are supposedly already two arisa, how realistic do you think the prospect of getting the full amount of what is needed, what time frame it might take , well, actually, what are the prospects of this rammstein of ours as far as air defense is concerned for us, now a combined task because once again we need to solve the task of strengthening our front line where, first , active hostilities continue, plus prepare fortifications and defenses, e.e. air defense, guarantee our contingents that will be used for the counteroffensive, and the next task is the usual guarantee covering other important infrastructural and strategic objects and our cities in the rear throughout the territory of ukraine , for this we usually need different systems, which

we get in principle because, for example if we are talking about the french zrk kratal or we are talking about the same even cheetah anti-aircraft guns or we are talking about complexes other british or others that are supplied to us eh star-strike for example, are there others that can counteract on the front a-and this is one option and another function it is common, such as iris - it is of course such as patriot, which can cover larger areas. but if we are talking about 20 e-e batteries, this is quite an ambitious task and we really need them. i think that this year we will still get e patriots, er, i can't say that it will be 20, but will it be 20 this year ? well, i have my doubts. in fact, you have to understand this. it's a big

number, but i want to tell you that the most important thing is to start this in our country. we have already made history during this time. war during a full-scale invasion that as soon as we uh know the matter of the beginning is afraid as soon as we start immediately it all builds up and immediately we will get more we also started with four highmars i remember what skepticism there was then even before the fact that this little by little in the end began to receive more and similar m270 or mars systems from germany of a similar type of action and here i think that gradually we will of course increase our defense and in the end we must do it because i want to remind you that today the shadow of anti-missile anti -aircraft defense of nato and european do you want it should move to ukraine because if russia moves its nuclear missiles it plans to place them in belarus and moves them accordingly to the west thus

, nato's defensive anti-missile shield one way or another, he has to relocate to ukraine because these are realities - these are the objective needs of ensuring the security of not only ukraine, but the whole of europe, you actually mentioned himars, i want to ask you about this polish initiative to open a kind of himers academy on its territories, how useful can it be for ukraine, or will it speed up certain processes, maybe we will teach our guys there will teach, i think it will be useful for well, because you understand, the experience of combat applications is great and this after all, you won’t teach it in any training, because combat use is combat use, that’s why it’s important. i want to tell you that the heimer is generally an illustration, not that poland wants a lot now, uh, they have a lot of ambitious projects, they also want maintenance of abrams tanks

to get hybrids and the hymerson academy, they will implement quite a lot of these projects, but this is also an example of the fact that in reality, when we talk about weapons, their production and supply for ukraine is beneficial to manufacturers, including the united states, and hymers received such advertising that now the manufacturing company continues to collect orders around the world and poland, by the way, has also ordered quite a few multi-cameras for its defense, because i want to tell you that any initiative that brings ukraine closer to er and bradley and abrams and heimers is quite important for us but i still have the conviction that we should reach the level where such companies as rain metal, which announced that they want to transfer the production of panther tanks to ukraine, as well as heimers and others, after all, independently or together with our manufacturers transferred it to ukraine and gradually opened it here, and it will be another effective security guarantee for us in the end

. i believe that no matter what happens, it will be possible to achieve this even after the end of the war , but it is quite important for us, mr. oleksandr . and i also i want to ask you about the machine. this is what defense express says about the fact that the russian federation has actually recognized a shortage of helicopter engines. it is about the vk 2500 that the russian military industry allegedly does not have time to produce in the required quantity. they produce 300, but they have to in 500, does this mean that we can expect a certain deficit in the aviation of the russian federation and does this mean that the deficit will only increase, or is it possible for the russian federation to replace those engines that they do not have time to actually produce, because the 300 is it's still not enough, even if it's not 500, but 300 is still a number that is more than half of what they can still produce, and you also need to push back from this, as far as

the production of engines in general is concerned, they always had problems at first after it was broken military-technical cooperation between ukraine and russia after the annexation of crimea began in 2015, they felt it because they were dependent on such an enterprise known as motor sich, then they tried to compensate for it by importing replacements and supplying certain units and units from third countries, but now, in connection with the sanctions, they began to experience serious problems in this , in general, if we are talking about the production of aircraft, they are facing quite serious problems due to sanctions, but on it's a pity, we see that after all, russia does not stop on the way of what you come up with, again, how to strike at least 30-40-50 km, sir, and again, they are now developing bombs for 1.5 tons,

i don't know how to plan there i have doubts about how successful it will be. but they continue, that is, despite the fact that they suffered huge losses in aviation, in military helicopters and in airplanes, they lost a lot of pilots. they still have a certain stock that we still need to destroy, and this will be the most effective sanction against so, oleksandr, thank you very much for joining the broadcast about sanctions. we will talk in more detail. oleksandr musienko, the head of the center for military and legal studies, was in direct contact with us . british defense minister ben wallace said that he is confident in the counteroffensive of ukraine against the russian troops, but the war, in his opinion, continues unbelievably. and the next year, he said this during a visit to washington. the new york voice reported that he was optimistic and thinks that ukraine will maintain its momentum and position of strength. however, i emphasize that russia

will not fall apart with the wave of a magic wand , according to the words of the president of the russian federation, putin does not show any signs that he is going to retreat , despite the fact that the losses of his army already amount to 223 thousand dead and wounded . well, russia to circumvent the sanctions, it purchases western electronic components for weapons through third countries, in particular armenia and kazakhstan , the new york times writes about this, according to the publication , at the end of last month, us and eu officials exchanged information about expensive technologies that enter the territory of russia to circumvent sanctions, in particular, we are talking about a sharp increase in the volume of sales of microcircuits and other electronic components to russia, which are critically important for the development of weapons , including russian cruise missiles, with which russia attacks ukraine, as the publication notes, russia receives american and european goods through armenia, kazakhstan and other countries

of central asia, for example, according to documents in the bureau of industry and security of the usa, last year , armenia imported six times more chips and processors from the states than a from the european union three times more than in 2021, at the same time it is also noted that 97% of the same products armenia then exported to russia , i will add that earlier the german publication spiegel also reported that the countries neighboring the russian federation are buying more and more german goods and probably thus bypassing western sanctions and selling them in moscow, the bekov method , the representative of the foreign office of the opposition of kazakhstan joins our broadcast p medvedbekkafe my greetings evening good evening good evening and they are talking about russia getting

chips in microcircuits, including through armenia and kazahstan said in kazakhstan itself that they are talking about it. well, you know, this topic is not new because we have not only been discussing it for many years already at different levels . what exactly is happening in kazakhstan, but you need to look at this topic in such a way to understand what is happening and what to do , so the question is who is doing it, in fact , in our time, it is easy to determine, but not only analytically, but well, and according to the facts. how is it in in particular, the new york times and spindelder magazine did , for example, the npu freedom in eurasia released a large detailed report almost six months ago on this topic , on the topic of the entry of sanctions in central asia in may, where it was only shown how this is actually happening yes, by the way, we will present this report, in particular, in the physics of a comical and international organization there and uh. well, we will spread it not only in the middle of there, but also in the middle of organizations that deal with issues of circumventing the sanctions

imposed on russia, here in kazakhstan for example, dafon is only jokingly engaged in uncovering schemes for the withdrawal of illegal capital from the country , er , bypassing sanctions . the problem is not such a simple one, yes, who deals with it, the state or business ? yes, because you know that the influence of russia at the state level is quite strong. organizations yes, there are the eu customs union dkb yes and this all gives russia the opportunity to organize series of imports through these countries yes and i really talk about the fact that there is influence of russian propaganda yes when, uh , many such things are accepted even at the level of civil society, like yourself self-understanding, that is the business of south asia

, as they say, yes, and there is institutional corruption that came to us from the nazarbayev period, it also did not go anywhere because many people still hold positions that allow to sabotage any decrees of the president of kazakhstan, therefore, many businesses, as i have already said, that is, they are engaged in, and from the south, that is, it exists and most likely will continue further, because there are 11 factors that influence it quite strongly, this is what western countries they don't want sanctions against kazakh oligarchs, but now the list of these oligarchs was announced , for example, in the british parliament, yes , margaret, you want to be a deputy, and that's why you can't just demand that the sanctions be implemented effectively preventively for many years, we have been trying to draw attention to the wide influence of the first officials of kazakhstan on the democratic institute in western countries, with a huge number of examples, that is, starting with the prosecutor of switzerland, who helped kazakh

oligarchs withdraw capital and legalize it here in the west yes and ending there i don’t know there the closest example probably yes about how these turncoats of this kind of oligarchs work yes this is a sample of beauties for example yes, who was under sanctions, and at the same time, he was not a boy, that is, he calmly transferred his money, managed his assets , and so on. we remembered that some moments in civil society are perceived as self-evident . in such a direction and that the topic is, first of all, of course, the issues of the russian-ukrainian

war, and we are very interested in it. it's early because the elections have just passed and the legislative ones unfortunately , so far, nothing has been proposed in this regard, yes and that's why you know the accusations, eh, the media , the mass of information, eh, how did it start , for example, articles there spies there or the new york times yes, they must be addressed in the first place because of everything, and to the leadership of the executive power of democratic countries, absolutely everything is legal here . for example, here is biden's plan to fight international corruption, but the implementation of this will is because at the level of executive power, and today we see a lot of facts when these sanctions are paid. we are very much in favor thank you for joining the broadcast. and this year we had a road accident in menezhbekov. i apologize. the representative of the foreign bureau of the opposition of kazakhstan was

in direct contact with us . the vice president of the european commission from the rostrum of the european parliament, where the debate was held on how to return small ukrainians and how to execute the arrest warrant for vladimir putin, during the hearing we watched the correspondent of radio svoboda in zoryana stepanenko in brussels, she is live with us on zoryana's connection. i congratulate you. please tell me how the eu plans to help the investigation. good evening, darya, and today in strasbourg, the officials of the european institution and also the meps tried to imagine, first of all , the scale of the crime that the international criminal court accuses vladimir putin and the russian children's ombudsman, maria lviva belova, during the hearing, the figures varied from 16,000 to 300,000 young

ukrainians taken to russia . the european commission promises to do everything possible to make it progress from the beginning of the invasion , the vice president of the european commission reminded the international criminal court, the eu allocated more than 10 million euros so that it could accordingly cover the current scope of work and financial support will continue to be provided, and those involved in the abduction of children are promised to be found and turned into persona non grate 16 of the persons considered to be involved in the eu have already been blacklisted, and among them is the russian child businessman whom we have already mentioned , maria lvova, we remain fully dedicated to making every effort to ensure the prosecution of those involved in the illegal forcible deportation or transfer of ukrainian children, as well as efforts to return them safely home to their

families and communities, the official reminded her of a joint initiative from poland and ukraine aimed at searching for abducted children and their return to the motherland in ukraine , the meps supported the intention, urged to involve all possible international organizations in their respective capacities to help and conducted historical parallels, expressing the hope that this time we will take justice, my mother was 9 years old when the stalinist communists deported her and her family to siberia , currently the deportations have returned, or the crimes of the ussr were not condemned and the perpetrators were not punished at the international level, a warrant for putin's arrest is a kind of hope that this time the crimes receive a proper assessment. when will it not be only in words again, you - nothing just words sounded from the podium and a reminder that any

country participating in the international criminal court, and 123 of them are obliged to detain vladimir putin, this is in particular with regard to the south african republic , where the russian president can go in august to the brics summit, and jumpers in strasbourg today called on couples to stand guard against international law and their own obligations if, accordingly, putin dares come, there should be no impunity for war crimes when the matter concerns the arrest warrant that we discussed today , it becomes clear that all member states of the international criminal court are obliged to act according to the warrant, it makes the world a smaller place for vladimir putin, there will be no political or financial decisions in foreign policy, the european parliament usually does not take well, but the very fact that kidnapped children and those potentially guilty of this crime are discussed out loud on such a platform already

speaks volumes about the mood and the intentions of at least the european political society and the community in general to keep the topic in the focus of their attention further thank you zoryana zoryana stepanenko was with us in direct communication from brussels and the details of what happened today in the european parliament, thank you, and then our broadcast will be joined by oleksandr pavlyuchenko, executive director of the ukrainian helsinki union for human rights, oleksandr. my greetings . good evening. and you are evaluating the debates . my colleague just pointed out that the european parliament does not actually make any decisions, the legislative body or the very fact of these debates is it important and will it have any practical implementation in your opinion, really the debates themselves, they do not have a productive conclusion in the form of some document or decision, but the discussion of such an important topic as

the deportation of ukrainian children is connected with this deportation, the warrant has already been issued to two persons from the russian federation , he actually asked the question about what there must be appropriate actions on the part of the european institution represented by the european parliament itself, and the evaluation of today's discussion can be reduced to the fact that , firstly, there is a very clear evaluation, support and understanding of what needs to be translated into actions on a very practical level, so that , first of all, this was emphasized in numerous speeches, to return the situation means to return the children to a safe environment in the motherland and, accordingly, that is,