[000:00:00;00] this power line was being built, transformer substations, it was all done, but it was all done in a planned manner, that is, there is no need to rush somewhere urgently , suddenly start building something there , it was all done for a long time, and uh, it all worked in the end and worked very successfully for us in that particular it is very important that it was the citizenship of the energy system, will we have time to talk, but here is the exact amount that russia has to pay ukraine 11 billion for all the damage caused to the energy sector of ukraine, let's remember from the beginning of the war it is about such an amount, the minister of energy of ukraine, herman galushchenko, said that, according to him, many ukrainian companies have already started legal proceedings against the aggressor country, of course, they must respond , of course.

started a long time ago there in the 15th year and uh that's why it's very important that this decision is a precedent it makes it possible to find russian property in any country in the world, accordingly impose an arrest and demand uh to receive this property to take it, to realize it, to receive funds. that is, there are different options, i understand sergey that you are not an expert in deep technologies, let's say that we tried to understand how electricity is transferred there from another country to another country, and you are not . this is the case, as herman galushchenko said, regarding a-a from the judgment of oil and gas of the russian federation for five billion for the property that it took from crimea , this is the first swallow in the future, well, again, we

have the opportunity to condemn 11 billion. these are general damages and can we somehow demand, let's say, hmm, larger sums for moral damage for something else, well, that is, what? well, where did such and such specifics come from? well, here it is a little more complicated , in fact, the stockholm arbitration works within the framework of commercial law, that is, there are obligations here, they are clearly spelled out i owe property, it was lost, it costs so much, it only brought income, and now we demand this compensation, when we talk about compensation, let's say in a ukrainian company, for example, there is a greenhouse farm or an agricultural company that, in the winter, when it needed electricity, for example, to produce something there suddenly did not have electricity and suffered losses, it is more difficult to calculate the scale of these losses and the form of compensation, it will be longer, it will be more difficult, but there is no doubt that at some stage ukraine will receive positivity court

decisions on these issues are also received by companies that invest and will initiate these decisions. in the end, this compensation is initiated in which case, which means that ukrainian companies have started legal proceedings against the aggressor country. is this interaction? is it just lawsuits? where are they sent , how does it happen, that is, i can’t tell you any details, i just don’t know these details, but the mechanisms are the main houses, that is, lawsuits are really filed , international courts are filed, uh, it means that our country acts alone, and the consequence clearly, we cannot guarantee it, but we can count on it. plushenko himself just named the consequence that happened, and it is related to the five billion e-e dollars that ukraine, as part of the e-e arbitration, sentenced from russia now the next stage is clear, russia does not want to pay, but in russia, assets, these assets can be seized, sold, no , they cannot be imposed there, let's say some money in the accounts

, this money can be confiscated and handed over to the party that won this lawsuit, this mechanism is known and worked out. it works and well, here some uh, here are more resolved , let’s say, technical points than in the case when we will sue for everything, it will be inevitable , but it will be longer and more difficult. let’s move on. in fact, tomorrow will be the 11th a meeting in the format of rammstein april 21, this date of the contact group on the defense of ukraine was announced by the us air force and confirmed in the pentagon, according to preliminary data, the ukrainian delegation at the meeting will focus on strengthening air defense, provided armored vehicles and shells for heavy artillery of 155 caliber and means of radio-electronic warfare, group meetings usually take place in an online format, but now the defense ministers of the countries will meet in person, the day before

the delegation of the ministry of defense visited the capitals greece, cyprus, spain and romania about this match, the minister of defense of ukraine, oleksiy reznyakov, assured that the results of the fruitful negotiations will be felt very soon by our fighters on the battlefield, the strength of ukraine's defense will curb russia, the secretary of the national security and defense council, oleksiy danilov, said that the ukrainian military is currently undergoing training abroad, plus the state receives weapons from partners, our troops are preparing are preparing quite powerful training is taking place abroad of our troops, the idea of ​​supplying weapons to the territory of our country, i cannot tell you about the volume of this training, about the volume of weapons, i can definitely say that it has increased and increased many times compared to what we had with you in february 20 of the second year , now the situation has changed radically, they are constantly passing

according to rammstein, it will happen in the near future, preparations are in progress, work is in progress, everything that should happen in our country is happening 24 hours a day in our military, in the section of our serhii, it is evening for the whole of ukraine when flash uh, at first they thought it was a nasa satellite, now it’s not a satellite because it hasn’t even entered shrek’s atmosphere yet, i want to ask in view of the memes that ukrainians create, so petriv is capable of knocking down flying saucers, martyrs , it’s like it’s too expensive, it’s like hammering nails into a microscope, but here hypothetically, hollywood, yes, accordingly, this question is definitely yes , that is, it can. i think that it is better not to fly here on independence day. well, there are many films with such an episode. well, of course , independence day is probably the most vivid. a bright beehive in this sense, but in the modern one, if you're not kidding, modern anti-aircraft defenses have uh-huh great

capabilities. and by the way, there were cases when uh-huh, the reaction of the anti-aircraft defenses was not necessarily that they started shooting somewhere, but at entering the atmosphere of similar objects, how did it happen today, most likely it was a bolide, that is, it was such a celestial body , a meteorite that fell, burned brightly in the atmosphere with such visual effects, this kind of thing is tolerated quite often. but if there should be, we should give such a life, watch the reaction. you know what it is. there in the marshes in the russian federation, after a-a-m-m-m-m every rammstein, after every statement, after every announced package of military aid, there is a commotion there, and there again every time medvedev wakes up and threatens everyone with nuclear weapons like this. for example, after the last statement of the statement

of south korea, which said that in principle it can consider assistance with arms to ukraine , and without naming any specific types of weapons, it is important that the arsenal there is quite wide and but immediately medvedev wakes up and starts shouting threats and not only nuclear weapons. patriot, because it should directly be a small-radius system, he said everything already , take care of it, let's remind, let's update the information again, because anyway someone will expect from petri, that's too much, but this it is too expensive to close the whole sky and all the targets, it is now a unique situation, probably not sure if somewhere in any country in the world there was such an air defense system as we have now, it

combines, first of all, a sharp series of components that differ significantly both technologically and in terms of their capabilities let's say we have old soviet equipment of soviet origin, modernized, for example, the s300 complex, so petriv - in principle, it is analogues of the 300, it 's just that the s300 is much more outdated than , but conceptually, it's basically the same thing that is, these are means of air defense that protect against ballistic and aviation targets, that is, against targets that we do not cut down in the air , they can be cruise missiles, they can be airplanes, and they also protect against ballistic missiles. cover a certain area, i.e. they are their task, i.e. they have, for example, there are now most likely, certain certain regions or certain industrial nodes or certain, say, there , i don't know, nuclear power

plants , tentatively speaking. i heard such information that two batteries can completely shut down kyiv. e of battery systems well, for example, there is one such precedent once upon a time in saudi arabia, they defended themselves with patriots, they defended with petrovites oil for oil production , oil refineries from an attack, again , drones that fly. that is, there was the ratio of the price of a shot from a patriot and the price of this drone well, there is no doubt about it, but the cost of damages that could have been received by the tsinpz after the arrival of this drone there were also disproportionate to the means that protected the sky from this kind of attacks, that is, sometimes mines it's worth shooting down sometimes yes well, we, we, we felt it ourselves because you can't measure the value of a house that

was hit by a missile or a drone, and here people died and well, how to evaluate their lives, and i'm curious, sergey, you say, well, that is no one had done this before, but look, there is a nato block, and it is mainly the european union, the countries of the european union , which were armed with examples of soviet equipment, be it outdated or modern, the same airstrikes, the same, the same, the same patriots were also in europe. what actually hindered them was all well, somehow, to combine, to move, to develop, and during what didn’t interfere, it’s not like that, the word interfered as a word, no, well, they helped them so that they didn’t shoot 80-160 rockets at a time, respectively. they didn’t have to, they didn’t found themselves in a situation where they it was necessary to bring into the country all possible means of anti-aircraft defense that exist, which can counter aircraft

, drones , and cruise missiles. we have a very serious range. there are cannon tools, for example, such as cheetahs and tools such as, for example, nasons, or arrests, or some other super modern systems, because as a rule, some technological level allows for this, if we stop here now in fact, we have to integrate everything that is, everything that we can get integrates and well, that's why this situation is so so if maybe if god forbid one of these countries ended up in such a situation as us, they went the same way, there are no other options, but from such a situation how do we have such an impression ? well, i don't know at all whether anyone had to face what we had to face when panas was hit by everything from hypersonic missiles to iranian balalaika with a motor

which, despite the fact that it is primitive and noisy and it seems to be frivolous, but it flies in and kills people. they talked about the fact that the patriot has never used the iskander dagger against khas-101 missiles, and here i want to say a strange phrase . by the way, the military is not the enemy, but the enemy, because the enemy is a certain emotional coloring and it draws emotions from you. and you should approach the enemy with a cold mind let's talk about the rammstein meeting, we analyzed in the previous meetings not that certain expectations, let the experts say, eh, more of such a superficial kind, you always delve into the aid packages serhiy, and here at the moment the focus of attention is directly on ukraine as a state, are you

satisfied with this artillery shells armored vehicles er, on the eve of this meeting, er, there was such a small conference where er representatives of the pentagon , the deputy minister of defense, as far as i remember, and they said this deputy the secretary of defense of the united states said quite a revealing thing , we will provide ukraine exactly what ukraine wants. ukraine needs now, he named the first means of air defense, the second is armored vehicles , the third is artillery and artillery artillery ammunition for and all this was in the context of the applications, this fully corresponds to the official statements, that is, i think that rammstein did his job. rammstein actually did a very powerful thing, because nato as an organization is not a secret for anyone. in

nato, within the framework of nato, the approval was political the decision not to take a direct part in the conflict, i.e. not to provoke russia into , let's say, conditionally and unconditionally, and let's call a nuclear war by its name, instead , nato countries provide ukraine with unprecedented support . that is, this is such a political separation, and that 's ramstein or something, as the contact group is officially called on matters of armament of ukraine, they just solved a lot of issues, starting with ideological ones, that ukraine ultimately decided that ukraine needs modern western weapons, not the old soviet ones, this was the most the fundamental decision of one of the first brackets, and i think that at one of the next decisions we will hear something like this, after all , about planes somewhere there, it is somewhere close, but it all goes a little beyond ramstein when we talk about coalitions, a tank coalition , a naval coalition, and an aviation coalition or not, i think that in rammstein rammstein, as far as i remember, there are about 50

countries and i would not mention the countries that help us but that do not participate in this pants , maybe it is not er, it is not voiced like that er, if it was directly because what we saw interesting stories, again, from the documents of leaks from the pentagon, when suddenly it appears that some other countries supplied us with weapons, judging by those documents, and these countries officially declare that no , no, we did not supply anything, but we remember the story when we suddenly learned about the supply of weapons from countries i do not i want to call them what we would think of them if we didn't think that we could find something from them . well, for example, this can be said about bulgaria, which turned out to be one of the key suppliers. these are the same bulgarians who are russian propaganda as a few years ago , i talked about how my native bulgaria was very impressed by some russian achievements there, and they did n’t supply us.

against this background, they refused to cooperate with russia before , that is, they were going to this . a choice arises, a choice arises, of course, in favor of such survival reflexes and state interests will be the last question, here we also announced that the usa announced a new aid package for ukraine in the amount of 325 million dollars in total, tell me because here some opinions diverge on the one hand, we say that about the needs of ukraine, they cannot close the modern production of some countries, for example, regarding the same artillery shells. that is , there is a lack of them, and on the other hand, she also thinks that countries have much more. and they only give us some there is a fraction, that is, if you talk now about the general military potential of equipment projectiles, what can you say about it now, it was the very thing that was heard about betrayal and victory, but in short, the production

potential of the west is limitless. that is, it was what japan got during the second world war when they went to war with the united states and then found themselves in a situation where the united states was there for a very short period of time that they were launching a new aircraft carrier on the nova, and japan could not do anything about it, just like that colossal production potential, that is, the question is whether they can . the question is under what conditions, in what situation, how, but the main thing for us is that they have such an opportunity, and they help us very much, maybe not as powerfully as we would like, but we can remember that in let's say we were in february. when we were told, you know, that you will have weapons for partisan activities , you will have swingers of war, those articles on this topic , as we were taught to enter. and they predicted that we would have a partisan war, although this is partly it happened, it was sincere. that is, it was not simple. at that time, they believed that this is what we have, that we will not have to fight. as

it turns out , how do we draw now? we discussed a lot of topics , we are moving on, we are going live, then we are transferring the parallel studio to nazar dovgom and kateryna fedotenko, what about friends, let's continue our broadcast , we will join the conversation of georgy berkadze , an expert on economic and political issues i congratulate you. thank you for inviting me. yes, thank you for volunteering. the first question for you will be crucial for the ukrainian economy and for all ukrainians. let's talk about the export of ukrainian grain . especially since there are certain nuances. initiated by poland from its side, then we heard a similar position from hungary with hungary, in principle , everything is clear, but also from slovakia, in particular, in

bratislava at one time they declared that they , er, well, they exhausted, so to speak, all their opportunities to regulate imports from ukraine while preserving the corridors of the so-called solidarity corridors in general , how can you characterize such precedents in the context of the fact that there is a war in ukraine and people in these countries , well, government officials directly in these countries should understand that for us it is very important. i believe that in well, it is clear that such relations are not only with poland and with our other neighbors . unfortunately, we do not see that everyone unanimously began to say that we need a-a today to press the transit eh we need it today hmmm don't prolong eh what we have today's customs a-a and so we say tighten the nuts, but we understand with you that today we have 50% of a-a goods turnover from

our country goes through poland, we know that for we are being made by poland, well, we see what schemes there were, and no one is talking about it today, they just went like that, the polish minister of agrarians resigned, and for some reason i did not hear that someone in our country was punished and this is exactly the scheme that our traders turned out together with polish traders, but they sunk a million and dollars of goods. i mean grain, but technical grain was sent here for a penny, and then documents were forged , and this grain appeared for er, northern countries, other money in europe, specifically in poland, er, and in other countries, and i want to say

that to our viewers, that somewhere 50%, and if it is divided, if we transfer 50% there, for example, by sea, 50% by land , through poland, through romania, we deliver, that is , it was very important for us not to harden our name, well k unfortunately, this has already happened today russia will use this against us. everything will now be done . please pedal the discussion in order to raise such a thing in a glass and bring it to your neighbor. what are you doing next to you? how are you helping ukraine? and what do they do for you, and i want to add. if you remember when the president came to poland, one of the problematic questions was when the companies wanted to meet and express to our president.

so he will say a claim well, i don't think that's what it is the president should do it for this, we have a minister profiled for this, there is a bay for this, there is a customs office for this, why, until today, no one is talking about what they have done, and i am very sure that after a-a may, we will have uh-uh this i'm asking, uh, about the mail, we won't have it yet. and let's say it's a vacation, well, today they demand that it be canceled, so you know, i think that when something is done, our people in the country should be very careful about it already, if you have already mentioned this this visit is more precisely ukrainian the president to poland to warsaw, at the same time at the meeting with the moravian prime minister, they discussed exactly this issue, it was allegedly already agreed that the issue would be resolved, in particular, poland agreed to restore the transit of ukrainian grain, but 100 million , but, but, er, i'm quoting well, then immediately so, after

these decisions of such one-persons, it means that brussels official expressed his dissatisfaction that if in the context of the european union, then it should be resolved collegially and jointly and with the approval of brussels, so there is such news. certain measures will affect ukrainian wheat at the level of the european union. ukrainian wheat , corn, sunflower , rapeseed have been affected. in relation to other sensitive products, an investigation will begin, and the european union authorities will develop a pan-european approach within the framework of the principle of single markets . levels of the european union, the nuances on this issue , can they arise, as you think, then i think that they will arise . the prosecutor's office today, poland is dealing with this. you understand here, there is more, now we have to understand that if the auctions are there, yes

, it was announced today that 100 million euros will be allocated for this, and 30% of the 100 million euros will be given to poland, and the public was told and what more will she receive 30%, that's why you know it. it's going like that, and trading is going like that. well, how would it be traded there inside us, but the most important thing is that our traders have inflicted such non-porous things on us. here the root of evil is hidden and we must speak only that this is against us, now let's say so eastern europe and farmers and that our pardoner, officials and law enforcement officials allowed such a thing, well, we actually have little eh let's say that those who try to slow down certain processes there it is possible to apply this thesis to some courts, in particular judges, more precisely pecherskyi, for example, the court in the context

of the cases against the priests of the lavra and so on, but this is a separate issue. i would like to know with you what to discuss anyway, e. export of electricity because, well, on the one hand, we have just finished the heating season, we have come out of this difficult winter, and already , as if, thanks to our energy industry, we have western help, we are gradually restoring our capacities, and in principle, we are even ready , the energy industry assures that we are ready for the next season and to the next possible missile attacks but aren't we ahead of the events let's say this in the context of selling electricity abroad , in particular to europe. in your opinion, can we already do it? maybe it would be worth it somehow to think about the accumulation of resources. maybe we have our own needs that have not yet been closed

. how do you assess the situation in general? i have good news from what they already wrote. they have already given us several installations. and it will be much easier for us to live, and regarding these strikes , the support for the rockets , this thing is sanetsya. you know, today he is talking about the sale of electricity. but we can sell 400 megawatts per day to expatriate. and in the pre-war period, ukraine consumes ours . it was about 14-18 gigawatts. today, 400 mb is discussed very little. first of all, i think that of the second one, well, according to different estimates, it was said that the second one, in figures , it will be a resolution of 70 million dollars per month , i think that it will not be like that, i will explain why, when we sold a month of electricity in december , then just one gigawatt cost a kilowatt

hours about $1000. and today in europe very much the electricity has fallen sharply and today it is somewhere around 130,150 dollars, so we can calculate, well, somewhere around 15 million dollars, it is not that much, but today we need to understand the following that in the near future we will start to turn on air conditioners in the near future the heat will come and we will launch a lot of production . and we ourselves will definitely need electricity, therefore, in ukraine. yes, of course, and it is obvious how much electricity we can export . but if we really want to at least it turns out that the volumes that we have you would have to invest in alternative energy

because today we know that our wind stations are mixed with 80% destroyed , solar stations are almost 90% destroyed. if we want to export electricity, we have to invest in it, thank you, mr. yuri. by the way , we talked to rostislav shurmue the day before about this issue , he also emphasized the development of alternative sources for our energy and for this future. thank you for the opportunity to join yuriy berkadze was asked to speak nicely as an expert on economic and political issues i would say good night ivan due to the flood in the dnipropetrovsk region, a red level of danger was introduced in the region , private houses, temples, cafes and recreation centers located near the dnipro river were flooded , our colleague valeriya holodova saw how water reclaims the land the water level within the regional center in the dnipro river rose by

more than 1 meter. this was reported by the deputy mayor of the city. this was last observed in 2013 in flooded coastal areas in particular, privately owned houses, this is the problem of the dnipro river overflowing, and pumping out water now makes no sense, it is almost the same as putting a pump from one corner of the pool and pumping it to the other , there are no critical floods in the territory of the city of dnipro now , except for the dnipro, there is one village and also a village obukhivka and kurylivka in kurylivka , more than 150 garden houses, 200 plots of land and agricultural land were flooded. at first, only the neighboring house was flooded. to us, but on the same day there. a few