[000:00:00;00] so here it is important to understand in detail what kind of guarantees we are talking about, first of all, they really should not become a substitute. and yet there are sentiments, that is , also in nato and because of which there is also a complete misunderstanding among some ukrainian politicians that these guarantees are so-called -th response in 48 hours, reinforcement with weapons is the same, all we have. today, it is one individual defense of ukraine with the support of allies or partners , it is absolutely not enough. what sweden did in finland, they immediately received a guarantee from the nuclear power of great britain. these are guarantees on this way of signing an agreement with a nuclear power member of nato, it could be britain, better the united states, it would be a real guarantee on this way

, they started p valerian thank you very much for joining the broadcast valeriy chaly , ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to the united states in the years 15-19, he was in direct contact with us, thank you. well, as promised, the story from my colleague max grabovsky about the meeting between president volodymyr zelenskyi and nato secretary general jens soltonberg, nato secretary general jens stoltenberg on on mykhailivska square inspects the russian equipment destroyed by the armed forces of ukraine and honors the memory of the fallen soldiers near the memorial wall, already the shots near the president's office where the nato delegation left correctly after the welcoming ceremony on the porch of the communication of the president of ukraine and the secretary general

of nato. that stoltenberg tripped over the cable zelenskyy is playing the game on the issue of ukraine's membership and security guarantees for it, the member states of the alliance are preparing to discuss at the july summit in vilnius, says the secretary general nato, president zelenskyi will raise the issue of gnato membership and security guarantees, this will be one of the important issues on the agenda of the meeting, as well as during preparations for the vilnius summit, the future of ukraine in the euro-atlantic family, the future of ukraine in nato, all allies agree with this, president zelenskyi expresses hope for the historicity of the nato event can become historic . i am grateful for the invitation to visit

the televs. decisions about inviting ukraine to the alliance already it is impossible to imagine the security of the euro-atlantic space without ukraine and people understand this, this visit takes place the day before the meeting in rammstein, so in addition to the guarantee of security , toltonberg also talks about the military needs of ukraine, it is extremely important to ensure that all systems and all the weapons that are already available in ukraine , it worked as it should work. that is, they need ammunition, huge amounts of ammunition, they need spare parts , maintenance, repair. so we must discuss where there is a need for new platforms but simply to ensure that all the platforms that exist work properly this is a huge task and it will also be considered when the members of the contact group on the defense of ukraine meet tomorrow in rammstein within the framework of this visit jens toltonberg visited buch and honored the victims of the russian army these

photos were published by the press the nato service has already reacted to the visit in the kremlin, and the russian president's spokesman dmytro piskov said that preventing ukraine from joining nato is one of the goals of russia's so-called special military operation, and among the kyiv test-stoltenberg was sounded, and it is necessary to do everything necessary so that russia never goes to war with ukraine again max hrabovsky radio svoboda we will definitely return to the topic of the visit of the head of nato to kyiv, as well as to the topic of rammstein from tomorrow well, for now , what about france and poland are arguing about shells for ukraine, writes the political publication with reference to its sources , a dispute allegedly arose among diplomats about how to implement the plan for the joint purchase of eu ammunition for ukraine

, in particular, who should receive contracts for the production of weapons or is it only local firms from the european union, so we have a mandate to settle differences in the council of the european union, fast officials presented their updated version of the document, the compromise document limited future contracts to economic operators created in the union and norway, but it contained a phrase that the directive should not create a precedent some diplomats felt that the new text was moving too far towards france, while others grumbled that it opened up new questions about which companies or subcontractors should be involved in the end, the diplomats admitted that they were unable to reach any agreements on this day and the negotiations will probably continue next week, the publication writes

. up to 20 countries have allocated 2 billion euros to finance the agreement but they still have disagreements about how to spend the billion euros allocated for joint contracts for this actually already the head of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba, also reacted. he expressed his disappointment that the launch of eu decisions on the joint purchase of ammunition for ukraine is still being delayed due to disputes among the member states. he published a comment on twitter that the eu's inability to implement its own decision on the joint purchase of ammunition for ukraine is confusing . this is a test of whether the eu has strategic autonomy in the adoption of new important security decisions, and for ukraine the price of inaction is measured in human lives mykhailo samych expert center for army research conversions and armaments are joining our broadcast p. mykhailo evening, good evening, in your opinion, how big are the risks that

ukraine will not reach a compromise about which policy is written, and in general, can this slow down the process of providing aid to ukraine well, in fact, such situations are not news or something this is absolutely a feature that we just learned about the european union, especially from the point of view of security and defense policy , such cases constantly happen, and the problem here is precisely in the national interests sovereignty and when france once again talks about strategic autonomy or even about the creation of a joint european army, such cases are always mentioned , that is, because within the framework of the european defense agency there is such an organization within the framework of the european union that deals precisely with projects in the field of the defense industry , there were a lot of projects, a lot there have been ideas over the last i would say decades

, but in reality such projects do not often come to practical implementation precisely because each country does not lobby for its interests that is, its own producers, here it is clearly visible that france would like the billion euros allocated by the countries of the european union to remain in the european union and that the members of the european union had the right to use these funds without the admission of countries from other regions, that is, nato allies , for example, the united states states of canada or even such countries as south korea, which also has a powerful defense industry and is an ally of the united states, e.e. france's approach makes sense in the sense that why should european funds go somewhere outside the borders of the european defense industry, since these are investments specifically in the european defense industry

, on the other hand, the position of poland, for example, makes sense in the sense that if ukraine needed ammunition yesterday and they are needed in order not to some business projects, now we are not talking about business, we are talking about real combat operations, about the fact that ukraine needs ammunition in order to de-occupy our territories in order to save the lives of ukrainians and therefore i think that in this case a compromise must be found and i am sure that a compromise will be found that it is possible at the first stage to allow, for example, countries that are allies outside the european union in order to quickly complete the task and quickly help ukraine, and in the future such projects can really be implemented only in within the framework of the european union, i think such an approach would make sense , that is, it would allow and help ukraine and, as a result, still invest money in the european defense industry

. that is, this is the compromise approach that offers sweden, i understood you correctly. well, in general , yes , although ah, to be honest, i have not fully understood how swedish the approach is. hm divided into a time stage, which is possible even in the volume of ammunition production, that is, for example , for two months, when ukraine will need some amount of ammunition urgently , it would be possible to allow the united states or other countries that can immediately fulfill order and in the future extend this process for one year and the french, germans and the netherlands or other countries of the european union could really work there. lack

of consensus. do you assume that even though the agreement is signed for a billion euros, it can be denounced because there will be no compromise between countries well, after all, the projects that i was talking about are, for example , projects to create a multifunctional e-e fighter of the next generation or a line of armored vehicles or drones, or we were talking , for example, about such projects as pooling sharing when e-e in- during the crisis of 2010-2012 when the defense spending of individual european countries fell by 40%. tried to create conditions when it was possible to save money and with joint efforts to prevent the fall of investments in the defense industry, all these projects, unfortunately, did not reach practical implementation, but still, then there was a time of peace, there was no such threat now, however after all, a war is a war , an aggressive war of russia against ukraine, it is clearly understood by our partners

, allies of the european union, that this is a war in fact, this is a valuable war of civilizations and the european union must play its role here, that is, when macron talks about strategic autonomy, including now there is a test. well, if the european union is going to play a leading role in geopolitics, in the economy, in the world, well, i'm sorry, then you have to take it upon yourself the responsibility is not to sit down and try as if nothing happened , as if it was 10 years ago, to try to simply achieve your own benefits for national manufacturers and not to achieve the most effective and fastest practical execution of this task, that is, i am still sure that common sense will win now and next week the decision will be made and the practical implementation of this project will be launched mr. mykhailo well, we are talking about

the visit from toltonberg to kyiv and we are talking about what he it's no coincidence that on the eve of tomorrow's rammstein, what are your predictions for tomorrow's rammstein, because reznikov has already announced the priority of the rpo ppu, despite the fact that the focus remains on planes. and what should we expect tomorrow, will there be any breakthrough? i think that here there will be no breakthroughs. after all, this is a meeting that will take place in a very important period when the ukrainian army is preparing for the spring-summer campaign, we know how important it is and how important each component of western aid is, that is, it is not possible to single out just air defense, for example, ammunition or armored vehicles, we know his word , commander-in-chief general zaluzhny said at the end of last year, he named certain parameters that the armed forces of ukraine need to carry out successful counteroffensives and

offensive operations. i think that this rammstein will be important in order to conduct an audit and evaluate the entire complex of issues that will be necessary. are there problematic issues or problems that still arise? one says that these meetings of defense ministers in the rammstein format have already become somewhat routine and says that it is good that what the minister said defense as an everyday matter, they discuss aid to ukraine, and is it possible to increase the amount of aid within the framework of such a routine, in your opinion? well, actually, we are talking about an increase, that is, certain tasks are set, a plan is formed, and each plan

really has its own goals all goals are not just drawn from the ceiling and i will repeat once again the commander-in-chief general zaluzhny at the end of last year called the specific numbers of which basic weapons we actually need in order to conduct successful operations therefore a-a during this period during the winter and spring, we see how this aid is being increased , and i think that the recognition of the summer company will be the period when it will not be just a routine here , it will also be important to react quickly and quickly adapt that aid and support to ukraine within the framework of of the active phase of the operation because we know that there can be a-a costs of ammunition can be , for example, the need to repair equipment and just rammstein in general, the value of rammstein is that it really is a format in which

practical issues are solved and not just a-a some political or financial theoretical planning tasks are being discussed here, everything is about coordinating efforts to avoid duplication and, er, just the most effective use of those resources that individual partner countries of ukraine have in order for this aid to be the most effective and achieve, of course, a synergistic effect mentioned about the fighters that we need, that it remains on the mountain of the pyramid, so to speak, and it is interesting that the air force said that they are waiting for good signals from rammstein , taking into account the real picture with the resources of which you mentioned about real readiness and what could be good results for ukraine from this rammstein in terms of anti-aircraft defense or even airplanes well regarding airplanes it is necessary to clearly understand that ah

this is a matter of months maybe years and therefore really i am sure that ah this is a question this issue is being discussed, in any case, it must be resolved because the soviet aviation will still end its life and we must be ready to switch to western aviation in time. even if we are not talking about even parallel functioning and the component of soviet and western aviation, which would be fantastic in general, but as we can see, there are not enough resources, there is not enough time to implement such and such a project, and it is obvious that all this will be done in such a long-term period if we talk about air defense systems and about the same problem . indeed, at the time of the large-scale offensive of russia , our air defense was mainly soviet. during this year, they really helped us a lot, and very

modern and highly effective systems of the western production, but we need more of them, we need more missiles, and i think that these issues will of course be discussed. also, i would like to emphasize the fact that, fortunately, i think that we will not know publicly what the ramstein results are, and in we managed to get the latest weapons and high-precision weapons, because of course russian intelligence would like to receive this information, because they do not know when, how, where the active phases of our offensive operations will be carried out. what kind of weapons and precisely the quality of these of weapons will largely decide the effectiveness of these decisive and decisive operations, mr. mykhailo, i thank you very much. what did you find out of my join the broadcast, mykhailo , the very expert center for the study of the army, con version and disarmament, was in touch with us

, thank you. well and for several months now, on the hottest areas of the front, the ukrainian military has been using british light artillery ; previously, the guns had proven themselves well in iraq, and now modernized analogues are being used by ukrainian soldiers under bachmouth, how they work, saw boris chalko from the project of the tv channel, real time, ammunition for the cannon, it's definitely not all happiness , someone brings love, i'm carrying a projectile. also, oleksandr wears a toy bunny in his bulletproof vest. bunny, this bunny came out. my neighbor , i used to have another one. i lost it. she asked where she made all the bunnies. before the full-scale invasion, alexander had already fought, later he became a mentor in a children 's leadership school, he went to the front for the second time, he was just preparing for this moment from school, he says there is no doubt in the great war, now bunny is a bunny

helps him and those around him in the rainy donbas mud. i'm convinced that the value is in the details. oh, and some such things, talismans, some other attributes, they help to maintain additional spirit, mood, oh, you noticed that i 'm a bunny. so you got a smile, so he's fulfilling his role, alexander the gunner is not quite familiar to these steppes guns behind me is a british gun in service with the 80th brigade, which is currently working in the bakhmut region , it has a very non-standard caliber. but among its advantages is its rapid rate of fire, it is very quiet and it is extremely mobile, it is a mercedes s-class, it is very accurate, they need very few shells compared to the soviet meadows, for one target there to destroy or suppress the need for about 10-20 shells, then for this community

, 5-7 shells are enough, charged at the expense of actively reactive shells we can achieve a plow range of up to 19 km if we compare it with the d-30, for example, with soviet analogues, that is, the range there is a maximum of 15 kilometers l-119 britain announced that last may, in the fall , the ukrainian calculations began to pass training in germany to the east of ukraine, the cannons arrived a few months ago. it was a bit special because there were also breakdowns. they were small, but they were important, and this is the main nuance of the cannon. a woman and pays attention to her, she says, come to the fire house at night. i came to stroke her. during the breaks

, everyone tries to find their own way of connecting with the pre-war peaceful world, and if oleksandr is a bunny about vests, oleg's is about social networks on the shells it is written, please release it to the family on easter, the video got 1.5 million views, well, it is important, of course , well, many people saw it from relatives , although i did. many people know, no one hides it, i missed my relatives, but oleg did not go home for easter, new targets are coming again and again now, what do we call so conventionally, meat assaults, that is, techniques as such, they do not have tactics, that is, they send a group there for example, 10 people, we destroy their shore there, there remains some group there, well, two people from the group and they are there after two hours, they start another group, and we found half of them again

, and they accumulate, for example, they create a new group there and break through to storm, well, they said that they did a good job because there was a very small correction, it was 0.1, it fell near the target, as we shoot, this is approximately the deviation was somewhere up to 10 m, how much is the strength of the enemy. specific oleksandr kazhe is very afraid of a frozen conflict, because so far on the battlefield neither side has achieved clear success, but he is confident in the midst of the uncertainty of the struggle , fatigue and sometimes despair, it is very necessary to be able to find strength, not to lose hope, to seek sanctions, this is probably the most difficult thing, do not forget that it is all not in vain and the struggle is necessary

efforts of resources, otherwise it will continue forever, this war has not been going on for one year, but for more than 300 years, russia is not going anywhere, we have not gone anywhere, that is why we have no way back, only the way forward tyutsyanka serhiy dykun for the radio svoboda, the russian military applied for surrender twice as often in march as in december. last year,