[000:00:00;00] the share of international donor organizations has increased a lot here, and i think that now we can gradually return this proportion to the previous indicators this year, that is, reduce the amount of donor support, increase income from advertising, and definitely what we are betting on subscribers, i would really like people to get used to paying for quality information we see trends. what is there ? ukrainians already pay for spotify music , netflix, megogo, many other e-e streaming resources, and i would like ukrainians to develop the habit of paying for quality information, that is, become subscribers to ukrainian quality media, because it is very important to give up oligarchic media, to give up russian propaganda from oligarchs, eh, we need to support quality media, so i think that this year we will

bet on quality content, what kind of people will pay money. thank you for this conversation . yuliya bankova, editor-in-chief of league net, was on our air. was legenet, i will also remind you that you can also support espresso, for example, on the espresso youtube channel there is a button to sponsor , you can become a sponsor of espresso directly . i am andriy yanitskyi, the host of the economics program on espresso. see you tomorrow at 8:00 a.m. live on

the air. together we will win . i congratulate the ukrainian program on the air. of the voice of america service, time and host ostap yarysh arrived in kyiv with an unannounced visit , nato secretary general jens toltonberg visited the ukrainian capital for the first time in more than a year of the russian full-scale invasion. stoltenberg is taking place on the eve of the 11th meeting of the contact group on the defense of ukraine in the rammstein format. we will talk more about this with our european correspondent bohdan tsyupin, who would now , i hope, join our broadcast bohdan. now ostapa. i think it can be said that the very arrival of the nato secretary general, actually for the first time since the full-scale russian repetition

of february last year, is a manifestation the solidarity of this most powerful military bloc with ukraine, and it is obvious that it was about support. it was said that nato countries support ukraine, and of course that when it comes to helping ukraine, they support the largest role in this support , national governments, of course, the united states as the largest a country that invests in military aid to ukraine, but also other mainly nato countries, but in addition to nato countries, western allies will also gather tomorrow at the american rammstein base in to germany in order to discuss further military aid to ukraine, and in particular, e.p. thunberg spoke about this today in kyiv

, it is extremely important to ensure that all systems, all weapons that are already in ukraine work as they should work, that is , ammunition is needed, huge amounts of ammunition, they need technical spare parts maintenance repair possibilities maintenance we have to say where there is a need for new platforms but it is a big task just to ensure that all the platforms that are already worked properly and this will also be considered. when we meet tomorrow at bohdana's rammstein, another issue touched upon by toltomer and zelenskyi is ukraine's desire for nato membership. what we heard on this occasion is not just about ukraine's desire for membership, because ukraine's slava has been a member of nato for several years, but in the fall of last year , ukraine submitted an official application to join the alliance without actually receiving an answer, and

the issue of ukraine joining this bloc or receiving certain security guarantees or the transition period, or as ukrainian politicians say, joining nato will be the main security guarantee for ukraine, it is obvious that this is an issue and, in particular, it will be at the summit, the date in vilnius in july , mr. staltenberg also spoke about this today, and i also admit that president zelensky is raising the issue about membership, about security guarantees, and this will be one of the main agendas of the meeting, as well as on the eve and preparation of the dovilniv summit, the future of ukraine in the euro-atlantic family, the future of ukraine in nato, everyone agrees with this allies so the allies agree, says mr. stoltenberg. but i think that for ukraine

this is not the kind of answer that can reassure because, as we have already said , there is still no positive answer to the application, and ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi hinted that in addition to inviting him personally to this very event in vilnius, he expects an invitation for this, for the whole of ukraine , the nato summit in vilnius can become historic. i am grateful for the invitation to attend. to make political decisions about inviting ukraine to the alliance and right now, when the majority of people in nato countries and the majority of ukrainians support the entry of our country into the alliance, it is time for appropriate decisions. it is impossible to imagine the security of the euro-atlantic space without ukraine

, and people understand this, and the aspirations of the ukrainian president and the leaders of the countries are shared. nato, including those who regularly provide ukraine with military support, well, we just heard from mr. stoltenberg himself, who said that all allies agree with the future of ukraine in nato but these are still general words, because nato has been saying for many years that the door to ukraine is open, that the future of ukraine has been with nato since 2008. i think that now , in these terrible conditions of the russian war in ukraine, more specific answers are needed , the ukrainians want this, it will not simply and in particular the fact that sweden is still not officially a member of nato after such a long and problematic process for finland. i think it shows how difficult this issue will be even for ukraine absolutely bohdan thank you very much for

your analysis bohdan super from london was in touch with us . meanwhile, the american congressman and senators welcomed the new package of us arms for ukraine worth 325 million dollars , which includes ammunition and other important equipment in the comments of the voice of america , the senators and congressmen are obliged promised to continue supporting ukraine in the future, all that i can say from all the hearings that i had from every secret briefing that i had , i believe that we are doing everything necessary to help ukraine achieve success and of course the last thing i would like to say about this is that we are not only we help ukraine, which in itself would be worthy, but we defend the international provision that one cannot seize the territory of another country by force, the ukrainian people are fighting for their independence, their sovereignty , their families, their community, their country, and we must do everything possible to provide them with resources to

fight against not provoked by the illegal attack of vladimir putin and the russian troops, we will continue to do so. i am proud that the vast majority of both parties support ukraine against russian aggression, this invasion and war crimes what russia is doing against the people of ukraine and we will remain loyal to ukraine until the country recovers and although the continuation of aid to ukraine is indeed supported by the majority of lawmakers from the democratic and republican parties in congress, there are those who do not share her opinion a group of sanatoriums and congressmen from the more radical wing of the republican party letters to joe biden was called to stop, as they say, unrestrained us aid to ukraine, they pledged to oppose all future aid packages if they are not related to a diplomatic strategy aimed at a quick end to the war, and whether american lawmakers call for the immediate return of ukrainian children who

were illegally deported to russia. such a resolution was introduced simultaneously in the house of representatives and in the senate . we will talk about this initiative and other events on capitol hill with kateryna lisunova, who is now joining contact us katya i congratulate you, i congratulate you ostap, let's go into more detail about this resolution that condemns the deportation of ukrainian children to russia. what a practical help this document is can provide ukraine with practical help, during the hearings of the house of representatives, the prosecutor general of ukraine, andriy kostin, stated that such a resolution is one of the ways that will help ukraine bring the russians to justice for their war crimes; the resolution itself not only condemns by law the deportation of ukrainian children to russia , but also calls for the immediate return of children to the motherland, the resolution was introduced simultaneously in both the house of representatives and the senate, and it is a joint document authored by both

republicans and democrats the resolution is offered to listen to the comments of the legislators themselves on human rights called it a crime against humanity and the international court of justice indicted president putin for this act over 16,000 kidnapped ukrainian children i am honored to work with democratic senator globuchar this is a bipartisan initiative republicans and democrats are working together on this resolution we condemn russia for its actions for what they do to children and we call on others to do the same the worst people in the history of our world commit such crimes joseph stalin adolf hitler mao zedong pinochet and now we can add putin to these worst of criminals rushing russian praped russians are trying to re-educate ukrainian children with the help of russian propaganda to carry out the plan to resettle these children for me this is not only

a war crime this is a sign of genocide try to erase the very identity of the nation why i am proud to stand here today with my colleagues, senator krubochar and congressman bacon, who are co-sponsors of this bipartisan and concurrently introduced resolution that calls to the responsibility of vladimir putin and compares his actions with the worst criminal armies in the history of mankind. katya, who spoke separately with congressmen on this topic, do they consider the forced deportation of children to be genocide against the ukrainian people, which , as they say, are mechanisms to bring the russian authorities to specific responsibility regarding the mechanisms and levers regarding bringing the russians to justice for their war crimes, the legislators with whom they communicated are hiding only existing mechanisms, and this, in particular, is the warrant for the arrest of putin issued by the international criminal court, as well as the expansion of the legislation of the united states of america regarding

the prosecution of war criminals directly on the territory of the united states, but in general, american lawmakers emphasized that such hearings as this week help to expand the range of possible levers and influences, and such discussions can directly strengthen the approval of the necessary legislative projects or the creation of new ones regarding recognitions regarding a-a recognition of the deportation of ukrainian children to russia as part of the genocide against ukrainians of the people here, most of the legislation with whom i spoke really believe that this is an element of genocide against the ukrainian people, they say that in addition to these national hearings , there were also other hearings on the prosecution of russian kleptocrats and violators of human rights. to oppose the russian oligarchs , the durbint blumenthal senators declared that if putin and his leaders were physically brought to

justice, it would be incredibly successful only after the end of this war, it will be possible to prosecute financially now, and in particular it is about the seizure of russian assets that are located all over the world , i will note that the prosecutor general kai e. of the united states of america, and in order to arrest and hand them over to ukraine, cooperation of all partner countries is needed, she also noted that some of the russian assets are already frozen , in particular with the help of support and influence ukraine of the group of seven countries, but it also added that despite the fact that these assets are now frozen, their transfer to ukraine is a separate complex legal mechanism .

the group of seven strongly insists that these assets, which are currently frozen around the world, must remain immovable , and the countries of the group themselves are obliged to ensure this. but how to use these assets for the benefit of ukraine and transfer them for ukraine, this is a very, very complicated complex of legal issues. but we, together with the group, must make sure that russia will pay , they are the ones who should be responsible for the reconstruction of ukraine , we must act collectively and united to transfer these assets, the prosecutor of the liège of monaco also stated that it would be good and asked sanatoriums directly so that their and their competence of the prosecutor's office was expanded so that they could arrest more russian assets on the territory of the united states of america and thus expand the process itself , we will monitor this katya thank you

ekaterina lisonova joined us from the capitol wing russian military committed more than 80 thousand war crimes in ukraine, among them murders torture rape kidnapping of ukrainian children general prosecutor of ukraine andriy kostin , whose office deals with bringing russian war criminals to justice , gave an exclusive interview to oleksiy kovalenko about how should look like a proper tribunal for putin and what should the international community do to return illegally deported ukrainian children to ukraine the prosecutor general's office has already recorded more than 78,000 war crimes committed by russian soldiers on the territory of ukraine. can you tell us how these investigations are going? well, every day this number is unfortunately increasing, and this is due to the fact that the crimes that began to happen en masse on ukrainian soil against ukrainians were initially a full headquarters invasion they are increasing every day, in addition to war

crimes, we have two separate teams working on a large case. this is a case regarding the crime of aggression and the second is a case regarding genocide, both of these cases require a lot of preparatory work because you know many people, they understand that there are elements of genocide in, for example, the actions of russia and the russian military and politicians. such cases, the usa recently supported one of the options for creating this tribunal. it is an internationalized but hybrid ukrainian court. what would investigate this crime of aggression, or does this version correspond to what ukraine needs in the first place

order for the crimes of aggression to be punished at the international level, therefore, the first thing is that it should be an international body. because only it will have jurisdiction over the highest leadership of russia, once again, the highest leadership of russia must be the subject of their actions must be the subject of the jurisdiction of this of the international tribunal, the more countries support it, the more trust there will be. the more countries support it, the more there will be a preventive effect against any other country that wants to become an aggressor again. therefore, it is very important that if it will be a tribunal in which there will not be the highest leadership of the russian federation, then well, it is not quite clear. then why is it needed? let 's be very principled. this is not only russia's war against ukraine, this is a global war, and i

think that there are very few countries in the world that have not felt the consequences of this war. although it is still going on and it is still in a very hot phase. of this tribunal just now, you actually mentioned hmm many times already the question of political courage of some countries and many countries are now debating whether they will arrest putin if he travels to these countries in accordance with the arrest warrant of the international criminal court, what message would you like to send to these countries which now they are discussing whether to arrest putin or not to arrest putin and do you expect that as a result putin will be physically in the courtroom first if the countries

are thinking about whether to execute them warrant for the arrest of the international criminal court or not, we definitely mean those countries that are members of the rome statute, that is, that have this obligation. well, i would like to say the following if the politicians of these countries will not arrest putin in accordance with the warrant of the international criminal court. this means that for them, putin is more important than the law , well, for them, putin is more important than the law, and this should also be a signal for them, well, the population of these countries, that is, if their politicians respect putin, who is a suspect in war crimes crime and i suspect at the level of the international criminal court and that putin is more important to them than respect for the law, then i guess they will treat their people in these countries that way, so for me it

is not a choice at all if there is if the country is part of the rome statute she has a duty to execute this warrant for his arrest or he will be there you know i will answer you in this way once again we as lawyers we must do everything so that he will be there and everything er so that when he is there er was sufficient the amount of evidence in order for him to remain there forever, this is our work, now there is no such international mechanism for monitoring these children, where they are and the return of these children, what could this mechanism look like, and is there enough support from international partners and organizations in this regard, when all absolutely all of with whom putin communicates, they will tell him to return the children, it will be very difficult for him not

to return them. and when he can flirt, that is , they can tell him that there are some sending signals, uh, the leaders of the western world, those who are there signals are still being sent to putin, therefore, in this case, we need as much principled communication as possible, not only ours, with various countries with which putin still communicates or which still communicate with putin, the first sentence of every communication with putin from anyone should be putin return ukrainian children to the usa developed the mechanism by which money from russian oligarchs under sanctions can be transferred to ukraine for reconstruction. how is the issue of reparations progressing among ukrainian partners? the first successful case is the united states. we are working on others.

cases, that is, our partners in the ministry of justice are also working on other cases, so i can't talk about this in detail yet, but this work serves the main goal. i think that it is still the confiscation of sovereign assets of the russian federation. and here is also a question of, i would say, political courage m-m well, in principle, there is no legal problem with this to do it regarding the issue of the proper tribunal. now we use the term proper tribunal in the same way as with the issue of the confiscation of sovereign assets when we hear from our partners such a very cautious attitude, well, you know, it's like an open pandora's box, yes, colleagues, pandora's box is already open by putin, it's already so-so open that all of us together can't close this pandora's box yet. well, we need to do something, something more

hide behind uh you know uh hide your courage behind immunity from sovereign assets or some political risks you are currently on an official visit to washington what is one main message you want to convey to american partners my main the message is a uh, unification of the union for the sake of justice for ukraine, for ukrainians and for the whole world, now i feel very serious support in all directions of our interaction. when we uh, remind us that we should be united for in order to win, in my opinion, this is the main signal that should be heard from each of us. and it should be, in my opinion, this is not our signal to our partners, it should also be a signal from

our partners to us. we have used and will use any means and any tools for the sake of eh hm save our youths our union for the sake of our victory coffee conversation oleksiy kovalenko with the ukrainian prosecutor general andriy kostin the full version of this interview be sure to watch on youtube voice of america in ukrainian and read on our website mayor of kyiv vitaly klitschko believes that the russians have not given up their plans to capture the ukrainian capital, but now he says that kyiv is better prepared and therefore better protected. told an interview to my colleague tetiana vorozhka, capital, what by law , there is no parking pipe in my bridge on the dnipro , but in everyday life work on strengthening kyiv's defense capabilities, says vitaliy klitschko, kyiv is now protected much

better than a month ago than it was six months ago moreover, more than a year ago, there is now a control system, a system of checkpoints, and modern weapons, and we already have a much stronger armed force than a year ago, and a more detailed program for the protection of kyiv from aggression has been developed. incidentally, last year, klitschko says that he knew about a full-scale offensive by the russians from several sources, and the city was preparing . in the event of the outbreak of war, we were

ready, we did everything we could, we prepared , including for the evacuation of part of the city's inhabitants, that the enemy wanted to surround kyiv , encircle it, all the key the infrastructural objects of the oil depot were destroyed deliberately and i call this genocide the key food supply bases logistics centers were destroyed logistics expensive bridges in order to surround the city of kyiv in such a way, you know. different scenarios of the development of events, even the worst scenario for this, we

also had a plan for the evacuation of those people who were needed, a large part of the people, mostly women, children, left the city of kyiv, it was necessary to leave it is very difficult, these are the first days , do you still think it was not a mistake not to organize the evacuation a little earlier, um, evacuation before the start of the war, to organize um, first of all, from the state leadership, we received information that he would not and start uh-uh in the cut uh, the key statement that he will not be an evacuation, it looked like this uh, to put it mildly, it was not clear to the population, nevertheless, the city survived and even survived a difficult autumn and

winter, when on certain days up to 80% of the city's residents remained without electricity, it survived primarily thanks to the work of communal services who worked around the clock, says merle , this war tells klitschko, the beautiful mary khmist has increased, but also strengthened their solidarity in a big way . even all the cities that were on the line of contact , there were no key instructions and an algorithm of actions for the mayors, and the mayors were the target of the 35 m hunt , five mayors were stolen until today, if i am not

mistaken, until today they are still they disappeared, they can’t find the funds to return kyivans who are abroad, to restore economic activity, to perpetuate the events of the war for the next generations, to rebuild the city so that it would be convenient for them to move on the troops, these plans exist in the city, and we are working on it in order to transfer the video of soviet times when it was really very difficult for people to move to modern standards of movement without barrier standards tatyana vorozko svitlana koval voice of america kyiv download the mobile application of the voice of america the application allows automatically bypass blocking thanks to the built-in vpn service read news , watch informative programs and videos, and also listen to podcasts of the ukrainian