[000:00:00;00] from the pentagon, from the white house, they warn and continue to warn that part of these documents have already been altered and are obviously altered in the interests of russian propaganda, this is the second moment and the third moment when we evaluate the content of such documents and such sources. we we must remember that we see only one section . yes, a lot of such things remain behind the scenes. that is, we understand that these documents were prepared by the americans for american eyes, and there were taken into account a lot of aspects that we either do not know about or we do not we can predict these aspects. well, maybe this document was written to some american boss there or a middle manager or in the pentagon or in the intelligence community who thought about what he believed that the ukrainians had such an opportunity and that is the main disease of intelligence services - in fact, this does not only apply to the american ones, it is in all countries a little bit, as they say, to comb

the review so that the immediate supervisor liked them so that they did not cross the line, so to speak. yes, with his ideas that is, there is another aspect of all of this information, and i should forget what we see, again, we see only one face , only one slice, therefore, well, let's put it this way , we must perceive all these things as critically as possible and take into account these main moments that are related to these with this closed information , but moments that we do not know about, we cannot predict them. we thank mr. taras zoftenko, an expert on international security of the democratic initiative foundation, which provides political sciences, a member of the public council at the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, and with us, and now our continent appears, diplomat, minister of infrastructure of ukraine in 2016-2019 and serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, volodymyr omelyan p

. volodymyr, good morning. i welcome you to the studio. good morning. people's deputy of the previous convocation oleg barna and we know that it has been officially confirmed. in fact, there is none because it has not been returned to the body. well, since we have also encountered such situations ourselves, we know that this confirmation can take months. until the body is really returned and identified with the help of special procedures, of course, but but you know. this story is also, well, i don’t know me . i recently just saw how one of oleg barna’s friends posted a photo with him in 1990 somewhere on facebook. barna is there with someone with the flag of independent lithuania and they are preparing to go

to kyiv somewhere there and he is vyshyvani and you suddenly just understand that, well, these are the people who thanks to which principle ukraine is thanks to with whom ukraine is fighting, but he is under, but at the same time, these are people who were more likely to be funny in this country until recently, that is, and the people who laughed became, relatively speaking, the leaders of the state, and these people were more likely objects for us, because even there there was some zelensky ketch is dedicated to deputy barney, who really sometimes looked very extravagant, but against the background of all our ukrainians, marshal is a politician in the verkhovna rada. under the dome, the word is such, such, such are my thoughts. and i actually also wanted to hear your reflection. what is happening at the front now and

s- yesterday i literally saw a yabchanka, some yabchanka, shooting at them with a machine gun, just at close range, in contact battles, somewhere under bakhmut, that is, the best people are now at the front with weapons in their hands, they are dying defending ukraine , somehow, something, the war shows who is who. i am asking you , if possible, update it please, if i'm not mistaken, on the facebook page of iryna gerashchenko, there was an announcement that today there will be a farewell to mr. barna, it seems that mykhailivskyi mykhailivskyi cathedral on the maidan on the 11th or 12th respectively missed his moment, but it's better to check because i, too you know about the deceased himself, you know there are very few black and white people in the world who fundamentally stick to the truth and who are not capable of any compromise from the picture of the world that they have, he was exactly like that. he was very principled, ardent

, very ukrainian for in essence and not only in appearance, it is a very unfortunate death. he died as a warrior storming enemy positions with a weapon in his hands . and companies, you know, i have already buried a lot of my brothers, er, we have a huge number of losses, but i would like to hear from mr. president and his company who they buried, because i have the impression that er, ukrainians are dying for ukraine , but not all of them uh, one of those who promised to lay down their lives for her, and actually , iryna herashchenko writes that the farewell to oleg barna is for our viewers who would suddenly like to go and see him on his last journey from paying

respects to him today, it will take place uh 11th service in st. michael's cathedral and then fr 12:00 farewell will be on the maidan, he is an active participant of the revolution of dignity, oleg barna was wounded for the first time on february 18, 2014, on the maidan, and in the spring of the same year he volunteered in the ato and was also wounded, and in peaceful life he was a teacher then in the deputies of the verkhovna rada of the eighth convocation, and actually in february, on february 24, he again returned to the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine and served in the infantry , went to the assault company and died in battle under the funeral pyre today in half an hour , the service at st. michael's cathedral will begin then at 12 o'clock there will be a farewell on the maidan. well, in the meantime, we will continue. i wanted to talk more about such a thing. today was also very good. there were words about what, after

the visit of solotvinberg, and president zelensky, about what we should get some signal of an invitation to nato and at the nearest nato summit, we absolutely support this idea, since president zelensky said that we have already fulfilled all the necessary conditions for this, but in this connection, i am already reminding again, perhaps already repeating to the audience , the pshyno-times column where the author actually writes about what china is, relatively speaking, if we are talking about nato, if we are talking very simply, in simple words, it means that, relatively speaking, the western world, other nato members are ready to come here to this territory, to this land and fight for ukraine, but now, literally, the minister of defense of germany has done it again statement german soldiers will never enter and in general, european soldiers will never enter the territory of ukraine , they will never enter and uh, and just then this publication

appeared secretly, the column was about the fact that the united states is ready to fight for taiwan in including and there he enumerated and enumerated various uh-uh reasons. well, there is a global balance , the protection of democrats in the world, and this is the same thing that you can fight for in ukraine as well, but there is a third point, it is economic freedom and ivaniv, which allowed him to be absolutely irreplaceable for the whole world the manufacturer of these knights are more modern semiconductors and this is what we do not see in ukraine, because i will simply remind you that before the war of the 22nd year , the heliteage fundeishin index was made public with the world- famous economic freedom of ukraine there then dropped by three positions before the war, the russian revolution was in 130th place. and even now in the 23rd year , ukrainian positions were not measured, but they are unlikely to have improved. and for example, russia is down 20 on 125th place, even russia, where all the nuts are being tightened

, where the state in almost a trillion knocks off taxes now additional fines from business but nevertheless even now russia most likely has better indicators of economic freedom are we doing something for this now or do you see it that ukraine is getting closer to nato precisely on this the third part is the most important, you know, i am happy. although i have to say this with such a certain bitterness that the president, in the fourth year of his term, finally defined real goals for our state and not fake ones, without membership in the european union and nato, we have no future, no matter how many lives we have sacrificed for it it is a pity that at such a high cost, the transformation or rebirth from nato to ninato and almost joining the alliance and

the european union took place. but we have what we have now and we must stick to this track regarding economic policy, it is a complete failure er, in 1.5 years of war, we were not able to build a war economy, and we are absolutely ready for the post-war period , unfortunately, and i would also very much not like that we, as a political elvite, would realize this unpreparedness when ukrainians will earn a dollar a month, i would really not like us to struggle with the economic abyss in order to become a successful state , we now have unprecedented help from the west, not only military and political, but also financial and economic, but without a coherent plan

and a systemic approach to the reconstruction of ukraine, we do not receive the necessary funds for this, we do not receive foreign investments , which are the key, not reparations did not help the grant , namely, foreign investments are necessary for the reconstruction of a high-quality and effective state, and the son of the phenomenon is a huge problem of one new project. no new project, no coherent vision of what should happen in ukraine in order for ukraine to become another st- european under the actual standard of nato and the european union another story for you i wonder how exactly the minister of infrastructure in the years 16-19 , volodymyr, already said about this, kyrylo bogdanov himself, about the fact that two weeks ago , he literally said that telegram channels are actually something that is under

under the keys, as he said, the telegram from the telegram is in the fsb well, in the end, we even well, today , again, they said that the fsb actively creates and controls a lot of telegram channels, respectively , well, in fact, it has full access to all this , i am reading today the news that in chernihiv, for example, the ministry of the interior what if the local police department opens a national special chatbot in telegram in order to collect information about war crimes, again if developing and spreading this communication infrastructure with the help of russian russian channels e-e chatbots is this not a threat or is it possible to refuse this or should there be some kind of policy , that is, communication policy, that is, in these, in these moments. well , let's start from the base, that is, if any person is of interest to any special service, they get the full picture of events, and here it is not important whether they use

telegram, a signal in whatsapp, or whether there are no social networks at all, what mr. bogdanov says. she has an unconditional reaction, but you are right to point out such schizophrenia from the authorities, and we ourselves actively promote and use that why do we urge you to refuse? we need to decide in the same way that we once decided on nato and the register , just as we will now try to decide on the economy. someone's desire, they get full access to all information, a recent example of this happened with the so-called leak of documents in the united states, uh, it became a public sensation for citizens who had limited access to this information, but in fact, for the special services, there was no secret here, i am 200% convinced as well as for people who carefully watched the pentagon briefings, or

the lies of the general staff of ukraine, uh , there was nothing strange or new about this either, it was all already voiced more than once, but you in a narrow context with in short, it established a great interest of the public. well, thank you for the conversation. volodymyr omelyan, a diplomat, the minister of infrastructure of ukraine and a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine joined us. well, we are moving on. in russia, do you know where the center is in london? well, the organization is in london, and they came up with such a photo project, and it’s called relocates, and there are also interesting german people, where nats and germans are depicted. russians are good russians.

who ended up somewhere abroad and here they ended up abroad, they say that when they left because they spoke out against the war, they took with them what was dear to them, and there chupan khamatova , for example, with his parents’ pet, a soft toy, and mikhail fishman with teni, or i am a dyer with a frying pan. here this is what they could take and they say that it is hard for them to live because they are now scattered all over the world, but you see , a russian also left there, i don't know the truth , he left in the face of those good russians and even moved an entire library with him is it is interesting that they left and found themselves abroad and now they are telling how poor and unhappy they are because they were speaking out against ieds and now they had to end up somewhere abroad and the one with the frying pan, that is, a toy with a portrait after all in different ways and they say, pity us now, because at

lunch time i think about those ukrainians who were also scattered all over the world because of the war, did they have the opportunity to take portraits of their parents from their homes, for example, the embroidered albums of some of their grandmothers or great-grandfathers, or did they can to take the entire library with me, fleeing from the war that russia brought to ukraine, the homeland of those good russians who are now located in london and from there they tell how hard it is for them to be scattered all over the world, and besides all that , there is also another good russian ekaterina shulman, a political scientist, their publicist, uh, ukrainians were also outraged by her comment, which appeared on facebook, where she figuratively speaking, too

. it is said that one's own tear is salty, only the neighbor's house will be rebuilt with peace . a person is a wise person, a thinking person who knows how to analyze says that the neighbor 's house burned down, that is, we had some kind of short circuit, i don't know, or we threw a half-drunk somewhere and suddenly our house started burning. did it happen because the neighbor's sewer it broke, he took that house and set it on fire, and our house has been on fire for more than a year, and to be more precise, since 2014, and the fact that the whole world will rebuild that house, we still need to evict the

neighbor whose sewer broke and give him a hand so that he can help us i didn't set our house on fire anymore, in this regard i want to say what i can honestly say. well, these are their problems. they had a huge wave of immigration before the bolsheviks came to power under lenin and stalin. in the 17th year, well well, that's it nothing well, they ran away. they read what, but with problems. they turn to the world, to international organizations. what are the same ukrainians to whom their homeland came to their house with the war? mr. yevgeny, good morning to you, here are the voices of good russians, which now most often sound abroad, even that organization of trurasha. i don't know if you know about it and

its activities, it is located in london and from there she speaks to the whole world and talks about how hard it is for good russians because of the fact that there is a war in russia, and they condemned that war, and they had to leave their country, these voices sound quite loud, or can you hear behind those voices that uh, relocated ukrainians who ended up abroad, not exactly with those things that are the most beloved and dearest to the heart. and with alarming suitcases, if you managed to take those alarming suitcases with you. is the commensurate noise of ukrainians and russians, how does it sound abroad? what should we do with those voices of good russians that are getting louder and louder speak for the whole world, i still wouldn't compare these things like that, and i want to say that according to my calculations in russia, uh, no less than

5% of the population is against the war against putin and for ukraine, moreover, a large part of them wants the victory of ukraine and then it makes a discovery and the process is evidenced by tens of thousands of administrative punishments for the remaining 15 days there and so on. and there are already hundreds of sentences for such things . the same and the other russia. who is against putin? it exists , it helps us, it wants to help us, and i believe that we we should not neglect this we have to help them as well because they are now when they find themselves in emigration under the threat of imminent arrest and long sentences well, they will already be helped ukrainians should not be included as refugees from the war but russians i do not want to discuss this term

good russians bad russians that's all from eh of a different repertoire, there are people who are for us, and we must clearly understand this. i know many such people, i know how much they help us , because, for example, these are our refugees who were forcibly taken to russia and who do not want to be there to live, they leave across the border to europe precisely with the help of the russians, those christians who are so strong in our country, and without this help they would not have left. and this is a lot of people, and i know it absolutely for sure , that is, i would not, after all, it would not have happened before of these people, er, i think we should even cooperate with them, and i can talk about it quite a lot, you know, for example, the accepted body, we will return the warmth and the world of the ukrainian, there is such an initiative that the entire russian diaspora

, er, those who ran away with russia played games er -e under uh, the threat of criminal penalties is being collected all over the world, they are being accumulated in warsaw, and the foundation is occupying generators, batteries, charging stations and many other things. and this has been going on since november of last year , and we are sending it to ukraine in various places : kyiv region, kharkiv region , kherson region, and so on more and so on and my organization is the operator of this network in kharkiv, we accepted seven large purs, more than 700 names. it helped people in the kharkiv region to survive this winter, and i appreciate it and think that it is good for us then

to respond to such statements, for example, by ekaterina shulman, about the fact that the neighbor's house burned down . and our sewer broke like everyone. i don't like this phrase and i absolutely didn't even begin to discuss it. it is necessary to look at the specific cases of the same russians, to divide them and what they are. and you know, well, it was also ugly when they, these people, carried reports to our sailors there sent to other political prisoners. when they today they are wanted, they protect russian soldiers, then they are good for us as soon as we forget about it, they become bad and we say that a good russian is uh, it is a dead russian, so if all russians, they uh, will disappear so who who will do this

in russia, and we need such help , i will note once again that i have, for example, constant cooperation with russian human rights defenders, fruitful cooperation that gives good results. protested against the war in ukraine against putin's regime and this has been going on for more than a year, we use the english language, i must say that it has tens of thousands of views abroad , of course yes, and i think that our support, we should generally speaking support this we are not against putin, because it is our support that they need, and we need to support them again .

of the hetman union for human rights, the co-head of the kharkiv orthodox group was with us, and you know ilya yashin joined us, we had a little quarrel with him and he apologized, and then now he is sitting, i think he was given 10 or 15 years of imprisonment. well, i understand that among the good ones russians are really good, but there are also bad ones. thank you for staying with us . stay with us. ours continues in march. we will be back. do you have hearing problems? you cannot hear the interlocutor. we have a solution. call while the video is being broadcast and order at a special reduced price of only uah 399. the mega device is placed inside the cherry shell, and its small size and body color make it practically invisible. the weight of the device is only 3 g , at the same time, it increases the volume up to 50 decibels . now you will not miss a single sound you will not need to constantly interrogate interlocutors, annoy loved ones with a loud

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