[000:00:00;00] de jure kherson is russian well, let's ask if kherson is now well, what was the effect of enshrining kherson in the russian constitution as a russian city? the armed forces of ukraine did not hear anything . they said that kherson is a russian place. this other because it is impossible to counteract those things that russia respects, these are power things, everything else is of course maneuvers, they will continue to be maneuvers, and the forceful liberation of the territory will consolidate the position, why it will be easier to do further defense countries. i look realistically at how the russians started. they took out

cadets of artillery school graduates on the territory of russia for control drills and they gave them targets on the territory of ukraine in ukrainian villages. this was the beginning of the shelling of ukraine in the 14th year. well, after crimea it is difficult, but still, in addition , the border has been formed for a long time and it is still demarcated and there are clear lines. here it will even be possible to avoid these difficulties, er, somewhere just people's experiences, well, it will be so in the future, but from the point of view, from the point of view of security, well, the exit to the borders of er, with russia, repulsion from the territory of ukraine. this will already make it safer to stay there on

the territory of ukraine, where there are key regional centers, well, but unfortunately some will remain under threat that are closer to the russian border, so i will not say that this will solve all security issues , i emphasize once again that russia will not stop under this regime to threaten ukraine, but this is for sure will simplify our defense options i really agree with you what after the 14th there is donetsk luhansk oblast and er maryinka avdiyivka and now slavyansk-kramatorsk this line after all bakhmut gives the opportunity to use it for today but well in the future all the same, the border will be more reliable and there is one more point, why are we talking about russian laws there, and our constitution, and our laws , how can we not fix them exactly on the border

if we have all our structures, the constitution , laws work throughout the territory of ukraine that is, it is a big difficulty for us now if we do not have full control over our territory, so there can be no last question , we literally have a minute, but here is an important point. well, what you are saying is logical enough , there is nothing to complain about. russia's ability to sign a treaty is understood in europe and north america , so you say what to talk to them about when they are always fooling, and if you said for the ukrainians , we would accept it immediately and whether in europe or in america, uh, there is also an understanding what to believe simple

it’s impossible, how convinced are they that you can’t do business with russia, she’ll cheat. it seems to me that in europe it’s more realistic now that they see the same uh-uh surface of macron , he received epithets from putin, well, he’s very tough. and i don’t know how he is, i think that he is in his thoughts there, they publicly say a lot about this so-called global rooster. well, not the south, the south, eh , it is very interesting how they react, starting with the brazilian president . to look for how to catch a fish in some dirty water bodies, but it is a ricochet, one day it will fly about it, it is not a kind of recognition, it is out of a desire to play on this situation, which seems to be far from you in europe, it is not in brazil, it is not in the south african republic, it is not even

in india well, the second part , after all , we need to publicly er so that they publicly hear from us the real situation because they can know . what a desil will come to the united states, which he accused of the fact that the united states is now stirring up the conflict, it's just a matter of asking on camera that he doesn't need 200 billion investments from the united states and whether he's going to give up the status of the main ally of the united states for too much, just ask him such questions and they think like that blah blah - blah, before pulling something out of russia , everyone knows how, that is, russia in general now pulls in all directions in all directions, understanding that this is still a country that will choose its own ticket

, at least under this regime ago i can't tell you that ours, unfortunately, i can't, because in the global south, you understand it the same way. valery chaly diplomat, extremely authorized ambassador of ukraine in the united states from 15 to 19 years. thank you very much, mr. valery, i sincerely thank you. and the song well behind and the weapon and roman slastin general director of the ukrainian club a good business congratulations mr. roman mr. good novels thank you for finding us time to start this is the essence of this story with the ban on e-e in is the import to such countries of poland of ukrainian agricultural production in general, not only there, but also grains , the import of all products is generally prohibited there , then the blocking of the transit, the unblocking of the transit, just so that our documents are documented and definitely in the lesson or the words hungary to bulgaria yes yes

yes, look, there was a certain dissatisfaction. it was even before, a few months ago. let's say, polish farmers, farmers in other countries of ukraine's neighbors. cultures of other agricultural products of ours that passed through their territory, well, of course, many had the opinion that it probably all settles, or a large part of it settles in their market, and the situation was complicated by the fact that prices began to be read simply in foreign markets, in general, grain prices began to decline because this is a certain factor, probably blackmail from the russian federation, that the prices soared with the beginning of the aggression, it gradually began to go away, and the prices in the same poland started there from 350 € per ton, er,

to decrease to 250, yes. and it is clear for farmers that the benefit was released, this is a certain unearned profit, and it is obvious that they began to look for who is prominent who who is extreme in this situation , why are they allegedly losing their own farms, well, of course , they found ukrainians guilty of this , ukrainian grain, they also directly began to say that the governments of these countries also do not do anything to support the farmers themselves in order to reduce the impact, but the impact of ukrainian grain itself is not so great because the cost of logistics is very high and it differs very significantly between ukrainian the polish border with the slovak border, and the like, and such satisfaction grew for some time, but what was done was a ban on all the lost products there, starting from grain and ending with honey, and all khmelnytskyi products

, and all this was really a certain shock. there was indeed a certain, probably obvious, emotional decision , because they even banned what poland directly needed. even before the war, poland was also importing huge amounts of sunflower seeds or soybeans. in order to feed poland's agriculture, their animals should be sterilized, so here they are probably stepping into the past. have they already understood this, and many enterprises and organizations in the same poland and in other countries also say that the obvious solution was not thought out before end well but we have what we have, that is, such a ban actually happened not only on imports, but also not on transit, the problem with transit was solved literally oh-oh on this night from thursday to friday

thank god there are the first cars the first wagons also went, that is, see well, that is, i see the logic in the poles, well, let's talk about the poles, they understand that a lot of grain is sent from ukraine , well, let's say agricultural products , but primarily grain, they are afraid that some part remains in poland, and this will put pressure on prices, and accordingly, these are not are falling, and this, accordingly, is not profitable for polish farmers, and i understand that. if i were a polish farmer, ukrainian trucks would pass by me, and i see them going here, and here the price on the stock exchange is falling, i don’t know. from chicago and i then say hello, it’s them, but on the other hand, i thought that it was very easy , it would be possible not to prove what you describe , yes, it’s simple. just giving a guarantee is not a guarantee. i

don’t know there, uh, customs or something. that it’s sealed wagons are planned cars, they do not go to poland, they go to poland in transit to gdańsk, where they are loaded on ships and go to africa . it seems to me that it is so elementary that ukrainian specialists in the cabinet of ministers and polish specialists in the same way could have thought of this only the polish cabinet ministers, what is the problem then? i can't understand what you are describing. it is being solved. i don't understand anything about logistics. i say to agriculture. oh, well, it's just three days' work. you 're absolutely right. in fact, this kind of work was carried out even more than a month ago. and in transit, the same seals are also in order to ensure the transit itself, so that there are no attempts at some kind of fraud, for example, we take

transit and then it settles, because, after all , what was going even what was imported to the lion's share of poland went through transit because they were bought by polish companies or companies , for example, which opened ukrainians in poland and they bought as imports and then exported further to other countries, that is, it was such a re-export further, but the transit was tracked from point to point, in addition, there was direct import stricter control had to be passed on the feed of all veterinarians - the so-called veterinary control on the territory of poland, including and according to the fact that there was the ability of veterinarians to conduct analyzes of these animals relevant and check the documents and all this was not done quickly, perhaps it was also deliberately not done quickly in order to reduce the flow of grain specifically to poland for import and there were queues, this will essentially be additional

funds and expenses for the actual import to poland directly was not so profitable, everyone understood, everyone on the market, players, traders, er, sage-producers, farmers who, for example , exported directly, or exported further through poland in transit somewhere that it is better not to import but everything happened here let's put it this way, the distrust of the poles has probably already partially boiled up somewhere, uh, they didn't see if there were seals there, how they drive, and this is possible, a certain distrust, including in their government, and probably caused such an emotional outburst and this decision that we in the end, they got it, and i can’t say it’s all political. considering that there are political forces in poland that are oriented towards moscow in one way or another, why are we

going to hide it and they want to worsen the situation of the ruling party of the right and justice for which these peasants are the electorate and they are actually trying to turn them against the government, and the government is then forced to make concessions because this is the electorate, so everything happens in russian, thank you, the political part is also here, it is really quite large here, in fact, because in poland's farmers are a large influential electorate indeed, and we have to understand that of the five countries that last month sent an official appeal to the ursula fund regarding the problematic situation with exports from the fact that these countries are more

suffer more than the rest of the eu member states. and it was all the same here . the question is that in poland and slovakia there is obviously the factor of the elections that will be held in the fall . polish and slovak people should listen more to such disaffected people, yes, indeed, some people connect it with the fact that russia also poured oil into the wagon somewhere . by the same overlapping e-e or coverage of media outlets and the entire history of uh in order to come to such a decision and uh , it is very interesting such a coincidence that together after uh, several countries announced a ban on imports and stopped partially blocking transit for several days, we see mirror actions

on grain of the corridor where the russian inspection on monday and tuesday did not approve any inspection for the inspection of vessels and in fact also blocked the possibility of exporting, and this is all happening perfectly against the background of our active spring sowing campaigns of ukraine, in fact, in this situation, our farmers now do not really understand what to do, what to sow, what crops, will they be able to export in the end, so it is really like such an economic blackmail or a blockade, roman , look, just right, it just took my tongue this story with the grain agreement, somehow later there was such a news that ukraine and turkey agreed to resume inspections. and this is in the mandate. that is, we

can three, that is, the un, turkey and ukraine , neglecting russia, that's all for this to happen, i just clap my hands if this maybe, but it’s like we agreed at four. we saw the footage, some muscovites came, uh, i don’t know what’s better , a muscovite, but something, one of the two, and everything was signed and everything is fine. and now there is information on what ukraine and turkey have agreed and it seems that all moments of transit continue. i am only glad. i am personally mykola veresen. but is it at all in the mandate that there is a stipulation that in the event that one of the parties does not want to participate in inspections, the other parties conduct inspections despite this party that does not want to conduct inspections? well it is not quite like that, in fact, at the beginning, when the agreement was concluded, there were actually two

agreements, and each of them had three parties , let’s call them what were the signatures. in one document, ukraine signed with the un and turkey in the other, russia with the un and by turkey, the un and turkey are essentially guarantors, and to a certain extent we can say for sure that such a split between the two sides is yes. and did we have any precedents? we already had a precedent, in fact, when we exported without russia, it was back in november last year when they tried for the first time the first time, and to take and stop its activity, the agreement to withdraw from it, and uh, they thought that by ceasing their participation , they would stop the work of the corridor.

we have agreed ships because it is, well, it is not normal when you agree on something and then in the middle of this agreement, someone starts to jump off it, in fact, then for several days , er, ships passed without russian inspection and everything went well. well, it's just very wonderful er now there are 2-3 ships a day, then there were a dozen passing through here, the question of the political will or ability of the un and turkey itself to ensure or their desire to take such steps well, it will be difficult to say well, they were there yesterday or the day before yesterday we agreed, we don’t know how what is happening now at this moment, there is still an hour before that, are these boats passing without russian inspection, are these boats coming, are the turks, russian ukrainians and the un coming to them, and

they pass quickly, these boats are correct i understood that this is how it is happening, they agreed on a four-way meeting. let's say that in the format, all the parties were there , but first of all, of course, ours negotiated with turkey and the un. and about the resumption of the inspection, two or three inspections a day, and all the curtains are included there that is, all parties continued the inspections. but again, er, hmm, the russians continue to insist that the agreement was extended for only two months, that is, until may 18, and this is also in some strange way connected with the elections in turkey, and the turkish side. and they are interested in this interesting

in general, is it in their interests to let ukrainian grain pass through, so i'll bet there is something that the turks are saying and we should spit on moscow. in turkey, the presidential elections are somehow an amazing coincidence. yes, this is actually a very important element, because er, we also understand the great role in the fact that the corridor began to work, because it, er, was closed every time. it also belongs to the president of turkey. and this factor is really there, he understood about the benefit of turkey, well, it is obvious that it is not only political, because politically it definitely exists, and in fact, thanks to this agreement, it was also possible to partially curb this food crisis , blackmail and, er, hmm, those problems that were

in the global, this is how exports from ukraine were unlocked on a significant scale, but on the other hand, there is an economic component because we have quite a lot of them. it is precisely turkish ships that operate in the grain corridor. that is, they are the operators , owners of turkish ships, who essentially earn money on their work, including in addition, there were many and continue to be quite a lot of small turkish ships that are brought to turkey, transshipped and then sent to other countries of the world. okay, then there is another question, how much ukrainian grain is really from ukrainian grain? and it came there to the extent that it is an international factor, to the extent that it is really, well, direct interest, well , conditionally speaking, if ukraine does not start, it will not continue to supply from europe to somewhere in africa

, there to the same sudan that we are talking about now let's just say that there will be famine, or such critical shortages as far as it is. the whole history of polish transit, turkish transit and so on has an international accent, in fact it has a very big impact because we reduced production before the war and now, but we still remain the same there are dozens of exporters of key grain products, e.e. grain oilseeds , actually this has a very significant effect on the market and on prices. 200 dollars for a ton , another for 300 or 400

, as it is now, in fact, this is what happened during the full-scale formation, even so. in america, due to this factor, the price of corn increased by $10 per ton. this is literally in one day, and this is with let's say , with traders with nadiya, what is it, after all, between the countries, between the ukrainians and the poles, there are good relations and it is somehow deduced. well, then it is intertwined with you know more with diplomacy with diplomacy, therefore, the global south. as far as i understand, it should be interested in all this happening. and maybe then ukrainian diplomacy at the un level is not working. i don't know what's going on there, just tell the african countries that, you know, we have something to sell you, maybe you'll pressure somehow from its side to russia there or to turkey or to someone that let's somehow give us something to eat because

we understand that not everyone in africa is fed , to put it mildly, here is another factor because russia put forward a list of conditions in order to to continue the work of the grain corridor, and these conditions provide for the easing of sanctions for them, the removal of certain restrictions there , to connect back the er-e razshlichotsbank to swift and a-a for the global companies that left there from their market to supply tractors and similar equipment there to start again to supply a-and this ammonia pipeline is fattened by odessa and the like, you understand why they also start playing and telling in this regard well , if this does not happen, then we are also his big global player in the food market then we won't be able to put it, so it's really

quite a complicated political game here, or maybe it could be. well, i understand that you're not a diplomat, but who knows, maybe your circles are talking about this, that russia will refuse , let's say we're against it, and there will be three parties and and and everything and and whether there is a solution or not, or do you just think that russia will start firing its barsky cannons at sea vessels? well, just such a question may be naive. well, without russia, we would have been preparing for the plan in march, in fact, because it ended in the month of march. preliminary agreement and also the chances were quite ambiguous for the continuation of a-a and this plan b includes an insurance fund, because the first thing that

becomes problematic is the high risks. it was announced by our government that uah 20 billion is to provide insurance in case we work on our own. of course , i think there will be brave people who will go first . another thing is that there is a risk of provocations. with on the side of russia, what will they be, where will they hit, will they be ships, will they go through, eh , obviously they will say that it is not us , what is it there, or a mine, or something else and the like but everything is fine, well, everyone will understand. if this happens, whether their hands is a matter, and what will happen after may 18. what do you think, but realistically , there are several scenarios. but it could be a continuation of the grain agreement, after all , it could be a scenario that russia leaves and we

launch this plan b-e and we try to go by ships without all these inspections without this there is another option that we can't do it, yes, that is, we are trying this provocation, the shipowners will not be ready to enter our ports, then we really only have the option of exporting through our friendly eu countries, and actually through systematic ways, these are cars, railways and the danube river everything and by the way, about the danube, it is a road that can withstand a lot of ukrainian grain . that is, it is possible there

. we have a suitable one. river boats that would be able to unblock all of this and deliver it through the danube. the danube is really a road . the capacity of the danube has increased, and there the danube has reached the mark of up to one and a half million tons of transshipment, all the ports there on the danube are ours . however, it does not provide the same volume . one of the alternative is insurance, in this case, if all is well, we will also have to drive e-e by rail by road until there is probably no other way out in such conditions. well, thank you

, the general director of the ukrainian club of agrarian business visited us and now we were talking about africa, now we will talk about africa again to talk about the internal situation, which although it is not external will not remain because in fact the events of sudan can now become a serious language for the whole world yes portal ukraine on arab flies parajalah good evening good health so let's let's try to understand, in fact, all these events in sudan are such a spiral of violence that does not stop, the head of this state, general e. e. alburkhan, killed people in south sudan and in darvula, the head of this militia of the so-called rapid response forces, the head of which was killing people in darfur, is generally known from with this constant difference, then they both