[000:00:00;00] the black sea well, it is constantly flying in my guts, this is their 31st. please tell me what this is related to in your opinion, or is the enemy really now being determined by what exactly he should kill and trying to somehow determine these points of his e-e blows and we also remember that the plane that took to the air earlier from the territory of belarus in order to look for targets is now being repaired in the russian ulyanovka, please. yes , look here, if we are talking specifically about missile strikes there, then the viewpoints of the impact on the energy infrastructure on today day, the impact will be minimal because, in fact, this is the winter period, when consumption is increased

. let's remember that including the military high command, just in addition to direct military operations, it always tries to use, including economic, influence on the countries against which they, as a rule, waged or to this day how they conduct military operations against ukraine from the point of view of the missiles, in principle, the strengthening of the anti-aircraft systems, the number of their coverage, we see an increase in the percentage of missiles being shot down, which leads to the fact that, in principle, launching with so -called small waves is even less effective today, therefore, the russian federation can use the strategy of accumulating so-called larger reserves in order to carry out launches, first of all, more in waves, and secondly, understanding that now the effect of such a mass launch

may not be so high, that's why they in principle, they can continue to accumulate weapons for their possible use already in the next winter, because today we see that the probability of the end of the war is up to there will be a conditional cold period and a cold winter period. so far, it seems unlikely. thank you, mr. bohdan. well, what will we do? to say goodbye to mr. bohdan dorinets, an aviation expert. thank you for telling us more and explaining more. this is important. well, i am. by the way , i am thinking about something before next winter. rockets should have been used in any case to find targets that were probably more difficult for him, although it is very difficult to understand the logic of the aggressor . heroes of ukraine and in particular from individuals on the dedicated to da vinci , to the founder of such a legendary

da vinci battalion, they recently watched yesterday , they even showed what kind of battle they fought for the bakhmut highway, it's just that, it's just colossal people that's how they opened the fountain a beautiful fountain. i think it's great. although, of course, in lviv they already criticize that it's not the same. you know when they called it something. i read it yesterday. someone equally intelligent must have written saying that it's some kind of can thrown in the middle of the city. well, i like it too. by the way yesterday they sent me a photo of how it lights up at night , well, very nice, well, lviv differs from lviv residents in that they have their own opinion on everything and it is never possible to please. but i think that this project of such a civil society is good. i think it's the same. for example, my brother-in-law lived in katowice, poland for several years, so he says that there's a little what 's new in the city, everything is discussed there , how many hryvnias spent, zlotys spent

everything, i couldn't do it, everything is bad, but it's actually normal because people usually worry about what their place looks like more in the center, that's what everyone thinks they would do better in hungary dmytro let's join now dmytro tuzhansky director of the institute of central european strategy founder to the project raupan ukraine p dmytro i congratulate you good day now you can visit hungary but in hungary they don't look for their own cities, they rule, so to speak, but for other people's and this actually, uh, once again unpleasantly impressed all the neighbors, and it is about the event uh, which was actually held by a party of political forces, some kind of some kind of event, at which there was, in particular, the tsar and the minister , and his speech took place against

the background of the great hungary, which, by the way , included the territories that today belong to austria and romania and e-e of the czech republic it seems and for example, vlad georges, a romanian deputy who called this picture and this story in general, made it public in the same word to ukraine again, well, and about it, is such an undermining of romania's sovereignty. that's why he called it ugly and unacceptable, and dmitri, why again such a clear provocation from mr. siat for what all the previous times and this is not the first time this card is used er and here well, how can i say there are not so many problems with this card, you can see it in budapest many places and not

for hungarians in the majority it does not mean revenchan does not mean revising the borders, this is a symbol, these are the borders of the nation. this is how they understand it, but first of all, it must be constantly explained to the neighbors, er, and there, and to the ukrainians, and you called it romanian. romanians mostly react that way because modern romania was actually formed after the trianon agreements yes that is, there is a date of three eyes in hungary there is this commemorative day of three anon a-and in romania on this day it is as if a public holiday it is as if their statehood here but well, the question of context is always so one thing when magnets there hanging in some tourist shop in the center of budapest, you can find peace of mind when it’s a matter of finding a political state event somehow you can find it in hungary, you don’t have to guess which party held an event like this with the participation of

peter of russia there will always be fidesz and they will always be in power, very often this is a merger, they do not distinguish, unfortunately, this is one of the problems that the fidesz party has, in principle, merged with the government there for 12 years. and here is the question, er, how does the government communicate this, why does it do these things cards carries out especially when it is carried out in the conditions of a full-scale war in europe, the largest since the second world war, and well, what is important that you see with these maps. they describe , if it were, the ethnic boundaries of the hungarian nation, so to speak, yes, it does not sound problematic at all i can even empathize with it, but when russia used the ethnic issue to provoke this biggest war in europe, this is already a very, very bad context, well, very, very difficult. if i were to explain it to the hungarians, i

try to explain it to them with my colleagues well, you will understand correctly, not all. far from all hungarians, if they tolerate such behavior of drinking russia, then other hungarian politicians, and this card was the first to draw attention to its inappropriateness. many times less less many times less umm umm if it is dangerous in substance than in form you know we have such neighbors well, let's say the neighbors are led by such a political force as orban's political force which, by the way, does not support the arrest of putin in the issued permission is final in the gas. well, they are believe that it is not necessary to do this, but we have such partners as the czechs . well, by the way, the czech republic, first of all, plans to modernize a certain number of t-72 tanks for ukraine only. the question is that our

european partners will pay for these repairs are one step, another is that we are waiting for the newly elected president of the czech republic in ukraine, he announced his visit. well, the czech republic will initiate ukraine's accession to the european union this year. union as much as it is look realistically, the czech republic is a country that has been reborn in the last year, yes, because it got a president, and now they have this pro-western unity, if it is fully in power , that is, in both branches, before it was with mr. zemen and some such, you know if the full unity of this and the synchronization of actions, if you even look at how the czech republic reacted, for example, to this chain reaction with the ban on the import and export of ukrainian grain, transit is, in

principle, through a neighboring country, that is, it he was not supported at all by pavel's statements regarding the future of ukraine in the senate, it is very sober and at the same time very pro-western and pro-ukrainian statements, yes. that's why it's not a coincidence, it's as if well, it's fresh, he was just elected. that is, it's volya. this is how it works in czech society. it is clear that it is not 100% in the czechs, so if they consider it and you know, this is often the ukrainian desire to convince everyone that 100% will be there for us, if there are three czechs, i don’t know if there are 15 percent against it, it’s like treason. well type so it is not necessary if to think, here is the czech republic. in this regard, you know, this is a very exemplary central european country. it would be great if you knew that this virus of democracy in a good sense has again infected hungary, which has also, well , more than once in its history, been very, very pro

-western. about ukrainian and pro-european, well, actually, other countries in relation to these points in the accession to the eu, ignato, you probably said that we negotiated, you meant about nato and not about the eu . of course, look, this is on the agenda for the fall, but a lot will depend on the evaluations of the european commission, and again, any important decision , in particular regarding the start of negotiations with ukraine, will be made not at the level of the european commission or the european parliament, but at the level of the member states. the issue of the same hungary well, i don’t know there are often such skeptics as the netherlands, but if we are talking about hungary again and i do n’t know about it there, what are the possible blockages of ukrainian and

ukrainian integration into the eu, nato, what about as petersiert says very often, it is necessary to understand here, and if we were to divide this issue, hungary, on the contrary, is in favor of ukraine's membership in the eu, nato, and even if it is so, it is about interpreting with this map with which we started. look, what is the official vision of budapest and actually, by the way, this is a consolidated position and the opposition will also support it. in other words, they say that there is a trauma trianon that hurts us a lot and that determines in many ways our national policy. well, to draw maps or not to draw is another question. this is a little different. well, it is not necessary to admit that it is necessary to draw this map with the territories of other countries and to recognize the trauma of triana, but that is, there is a consolidated position of the hungarian society of the hungarian elites that we need to unite the nation again in order to overcome this trauma because it is our national grass and we cannot and will not

are we going to do it within the boundaries of the revision of the borders , because it is against international law, revanchism and so on and so on. hungarians who found themselves abroad after trionon had borders, that's why integration, including ukraine or, for example, serbia, which still isn't there, is the senate, it's the embodiment of this mission, the dream and vision of the hungarian elites , that's why this is the direction hungary will follow to move, but viktor gorban's hungary is such an ally that, you know, if he didn't make life easy for us, given the educational dispute of the 17th year, given the political nuances , given the russian influence in hungary, that's

why the hungarians will trade, but this is their rhetoric and theirs is even a tul-timat we offer for bargaining, this does not mean that hungary, under certain circumstances, will not support the beginning of negotiations there on ukraine's accession to the eu or some serious decision on nato, but in vilnius , which will be initiated there by the czech republic or any other country, here is the question. what, what, what will hungary ask for in return and how will the periodic negotiations go, but ukraine actually needs to clearly articulate there in front of orban , peter victor is waiting sadly. yes, it is in your interests, you want to take historic steps to solve this problem of the unity of the nation, we are ready let's help you with this, let's integrate ukraine into yesinat, mr. dmytro, i also want to ask you about ukraine in this year

's list of letters, e-e check, it is correct to say the indices and freedoms of freedom that freedom house publishes turned out to have dropped a lot of positions , of course we have a war, but we scored only 50 points, and that is, half of it ended up in the company of partially free countries and in such a company because where we are located - we are located between niger and code deguar , well, this is news that did not attract many attention in general, it seems to me well, again , this is probably not for us now , but if we talk about the european union, then x that i am not wrong. this is hungary, what can we say about the country of the european union, is this fact uh, it is resonant in hungary, it is not

resonant because it is not yet in the same place. and by the way, not only there in the freedom house ratings, you know when the russian invasion began, i was just working in to hungary, the international election observation mission, that is, i went there 10 days before the start of the invasion. well, i already returned so that the spectators were taken care of. it became clear, and i saw how this system or democracy works . the hungarian legislation from the inside, and i will tell you it is terrible, here is the equipment schedule for me. for ukrainians, as i understand ukrainian realities, it is not horror in principle, but from the point of view of ensuring or reproducing these european standards to which ukraine also strives, of course , this thing that you mentioned, by the way, is terrible there is the fidesz party against the arrest of putin. how do they explain it all, like yes , we ratified the rome statute, but it is not integrated into the hungarian legislation . i'm sorry. this is how we can do about it. yes

, here we are, and i will tell you that they do similar tricks. i don't know with how many international commitments. that is, they say where we treated them once again, but oops it doesn't work in our country. because it is not integrated in our legislation, therefore in hungary systemic problems with democracy are systemic problems with such a concept as a round criterion the rule of law, this is exactly what i am explaining to him, it is now a key criterion, well, in general, which measures the development of democracy in the country , and for example, because of these problems, it is not only a question of these freedom house ratings or reputations, it is a question that hungary cannot get several tens of billions of euros due to non-compliance with these criteria these are the cases, that is , you see what a paradox ukraine is

to the re open ukraine project well, what about andriy ? next time we have guests: ivana klympush sensadze, people's deputy of ukraine and the head of the committee on ukraine's integration into the european union, ms. ivana. good day to you. congratulations, ms. ivana. well, let me remind you that yesterday they were hiding in kyiv in particular, oleg barnu, a people's deputy, you were in the same faction in the last convocation, as far as i remember, and i actually want to express my condolences in this regard, we already have the details , we learned that oleg died in the of an assault group near the village of pavlivka. you know the car driver in this

direction . i certainly want you to say a few words. on april 18, and i will quote literally, if i may, because he wrote that oleg barna was uncompromising in his rightness and his mistakes, he was a teacher of physics and mathematics and, becoming a politician, laid everything out on two shelves, ukrainian and hostile oleg was a classic without any admixture or benefit, the people of bandera, no one could push this man a stone from his position, it was such people all the ages who defended ukraine. further, he even says that he often became difficult positions of his faction , there was a period when his they actually stopped it, it seems, and in that faction they then returned it, but it is important that what he said about the fact that sincerity, immediacy , selfless love for ukraine made all

claims against him inadequate, i actually wanted to quote it on this day because i it seems that such people have been like this since the 90s. oleg barna was a participant in all revolutions, from the revolution on granite to the last revolution of the 14th year . i hope that it is the last one, and i think that there is such a problem in ukraine that we do not value our heroes, we do not value people who everyone dedicates his whole life to the country and in the best case, in the best case, we can appreciate only when they die for this country or even then we will not remember and you know really yesterday was very emotionally difficult and full of pain and

farewell to oleg is a bar and in in and from kyiv a young commander, 31-year-old valery dorogov, and uh, i am grateful to everyone who came to pay their last respects to oleg and in st. michael's cathedral, then on the maidan, because she was indeed a participant in previous revolutions, including the revolution of dignity, and was wounded during the revolution of dignity on february 18 on a - and in the mariinsky mariinsky park, when the leaders of ukraine at that time tried to solve their problems with their aunts and uncles, it is obvious to everyone who knew oleg , it is absolutely obvious to me that he was really very sincere and very real in all his beliefs, he was sometimes, as i call it, clumsy to a certain extent in the manifestation of his emotions, his feelings, his beliefs, but it is certain that he is a person who , above all, not only in slogans, but in his actions, put ukraine and the protection of the

ukrainian state. this is exactly what it is about his family and his wife and his sons spoke yesterday, and that's why the pain is terrible, the price is terrible , for protecting the state and hoping for the victory that we all strive for. for us, this is a painful loss and for us it is the same additional responsibility in order to be worthy of the fact that oleg and his commander valery gave their lives and many, many more to the regret of thousands of our ukrainian defenders. if there is one more question, i just want to ask a little about something else about your activities . exactly the same in the parliament, well, who doesn't remember ivan klipochki, the vice-prime minister for european integration in the past governments, that is , a person who seems to be the head

of the specialized committee in the verkhovna rada on the issue of governance, but i read about the fact that this week there was a joint first joint meeting of the representatives of the committees of the european parliament and the verkhovna rada, there were those who did not invite you, no, no, i was invited, only they did not say anything about it, moreover, i took an active part in the preparation of this, this, this meeting, we worked out the committee in our proposal what should it look like? what should it be ? how should i act ? it is necessary to mention all of them, but not to mention the profile committee

, which, to be honest, is directly involved in this work with the european parliament the most , and you can only work so that it does not shine anywhere like this, how is it that god says that people from the opposition have done something good or something good was done, something professional was done by the people who represented european solidarity , this is it for our colleagues on a difficult choice, as it turns out. then colleagues from the monomajority actively wanted to completely destroy the integration committee on ukraine's integration into the european union, and only thanks to the efforts of european solidarity, we managed to save the committee. i think that colleagues at that time did not realize how

necessary it would turn out to be. it is this body, and it is part of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, and now they are probably biting their elbows that it is headed by a representative are you a representative of the opposition? we have literally four minutes, but i asked a question that is of great interest to all of our viewers, and stollenberg's visit to ukraine , the wishes of the ukrainian authorities, and the promises of our partners. of course, we are primarily talking about nato, why should we expect from vilnius himself, what signals or promises were given to volodymyr zelensky, and in his person to the whole of ukraine, the secretary general of the alliance cannot make such promises without agreeing them with all members of the alliance, we are we have to realize at the moment, unfortunately, there is no complete agreement in balnya that at the vilnius summit, relations with ukraine should be raised to a different level to a higher level than the promises made

in the bucharest sami decision, which was then repeated in many others, and in particular in to the madrid summit that the next step on the way to membership will be an action plan for membership, we believe that it is now possible to bypass this stage and the alliance should invite in some way in some in some wording to invite ukraine to membership after the end of that terrible war, or will we receive such a promise and such a clear wording in vilnius at the moment there is no clear understanding, we all need to work on this and colleagues from the government and the president of ukraine and all parliamentarians we exactly a-a took a whole whole task in er-e active work, but literally there in a few days i will be with my colleagues in rome and in riga and er, this will also be one of

the priority tasks for discussion with our partners, but first of all we need the united states, germany, and france to be the same exponents of this idea and this plan as the baltic countries and, for example , poland are today. and what kind of security framework could we be talking about? well, before joining nato. well, maybe it was. i would like to believe that it was about something similar to, uh, what is the security framework and security guarantees that were provided to sweden and finland before joining the alliance as sweden currently has security guarantees from one of the nuclear countries, in particular great britain, but i doubt that something will be approved in

vilnius in this particular form, and the only security guarantee for ukraine in the future can only be ukraine's membership in nato for really we are safe for a real stable and long-lasting peace in this region and in the world in general . head of ukraine's committee on ukraine's integration into the eu well, the vice-prime minister is also the batsman of european and euro tactical integration well, listen to this, i absolutely received such good information because i thought that ms. ivana was simply pushed away from the i mean she herself organized it all she did everything, she was not invited, then she was invited to the golgo, she imagines that she was invited . well, the rada tv channel has increased funding for a reason, although i don’t know. by the way, what are all the crew members who were attached to kyryll tymoshenko with him doing now? the film crew traveled constantly, it was with some other attachment, just some other, of course, it is a holiday, there is no empty place

, so to speak, andriy and i are not saying goodbye, we will meet with you at 2 p.m. and we will work until 3 p.m. and already by 3 p.m. i will comment, we will discuss with our guests what happened during the morning. well, it will also happen in the afternoon. therefore, for now, hmm, according to our plan, we will say goodbye for a moment. thank you for watching this express . goodbye. well, this is extremely nice. well, actually, you are a special audience. you mean it, even this one. to say, er, our audience is a banana. to say that special people watch espresso. i often meet these people on the street, who are suddenly recognized there. they approach me. i know who watches espresso - this is intelligent people are patriotic people, it's an honor to work in this audience . i always like to say that. well, we didn't have time to talk about what, uh, in the constitutional court , the authorities are trying to seize power

again. he spoke to the program, they will talk more, we ask, we will return to your attention now, the news, and melnyk will tell you about the most important thing, please, the consequences of enemy shelling and, of course, the losses in the russian army, the details, stay with us, i will start with the kherson region 45 times in the past the russians shelled the kherson region for a day. this was reported by the head of the region oleksandr prokudin,