[000:00:00;00] variable yes, it always happens, it adapts, it always happens until the 15th, even until the 16th, until the 16th year, in the experience of the year, patriotic sentiments in the russian society of the russian empire were quite popular and they still dreamed of conquering tsargrad, but already in december 1916 , e- historians record a significant spread of sentiments that it is necessary to shout unshared shame and that's why here is the question . a constantly warring country that they are. the hundred years' war for russia, which is in a hostile environment, there is always some trigger that will break

this adaptability and begin the transition to the process of accepting inevitability . appeared, we can , by the way, repeat it probably this is the main russian such a pop singer, what an activist, what kind of military, who supports the war, this is such a singer, shaman, i honestly confess that i have never i hadn't heard him until then, but he turns out to be a very famous character , he wrote a song that became the anthem of the svu, something in russia in the period or something like that, he had something new, or the presentation of a clip or something else, he presented it there in such a very interesting way new image if i can show you a lot of places, i found a lot of walls together parallels and truths of the aryans in the black leather e-e such a bushla

with absolutely such bleached here and there. white blue, that is, three decks russian but which one well, of course, that even er echoes with the fascist bandages from the inside, from the owner, i didn’t know that we have a problem, it’s one to show less with that, i just passed, i thought, but in general, what kind of russians do we see here, that’s how it is but in general, it's just the russians we see here who came to this land, they don't look like that, they don't look like slavs for the most part, moreover, this country has very few slavs in it, and that's why they themselves, i don't know any nods in the direction there sharply some nation of the slavic civilization, all these sharp features of the blonde, well, it's just, it's some

kind of cosplay, cosplay, uh , hitler's wife, why do they do it somehow? well, it's just impotent , i would say, because it's a nation, first of all , of buryat caucasians who are fighting in this war. northern peoples, yes, peoples who are mostly mongoloid or turkic in origin, and so on, if possible, briefly, because there are not many of them right now, but i would like to hear your opinion on this matter, please, exactly, are there any peoples who are in a colonial situation dependence on them will be placed in the historical mission of the destruction of the russian empire because they will carry out their accelerated construction of the state on post -russian space, and in this regard i will cosplay , well, actually speaking, the story with the eurasian nation and the jurist, which is the biology of the war in ukraine, is i didn't justify myself, that is, people don't associate themselves with this ideology, with dugin's narrative, with pro-khanovism, with this chronic russia, which will dig itself into

a hole, will go eat some, whatever, that's why there is an attempt to do something like this, then there will be maybe that’s the attraction of that thing by shamans. then maybe there will be some story of the search for a new narrative and a new aesthetic for the russian ideology. in fact, this is a sign of the bankruptcy of the russian state ideology , which did not justify itself, because even this is the victory of the devils, which they have been promoting all this time, starting from the beginning of the war in ukraine , it also does not find itself, does not find a continuation in something new, they constantly exploit the same aesthetics that no longer attract even fans of putin himself, that is, it does not insert them, well it is obvious that they will be looking for something new, we will see baron ongerd there with chinese elements of chinese aesthetics, well, this is also one or two clips and then new, new money

, new budgets from the russian ministry, which you like very much, mr. vitaly vitaly kulyk, political scientist , director of the research center, the problem of civil society, by the way, when the russians say that we are a horde , the uzbeks are very offended, let's say that the timurid empire under timur rolan owned part of russia . that is, it was not they, it was the uzbeks who came well, relatively speaking, that time was timurid and at the same time well, just as they are not chingizides, well, russia is a country that, i'm sorry , was fertilized by various different ukrainians, officially , how many millions are there, god, even that pilot who dropped two bombs, one was found, it's true only today i realized that the evacuation is now 30 thousand people in belgorod and it turned out to be a certain ostapchuk surname well yes yes yes it works thank you mr. vitaly what are we talking about we wish you a good day and we are already waiting for you diana rusnak analyst of the ukrainian center for health care ms. diano we congratulate you good day, we are glad to see and hear that you are doing a very important

job, you are collecting data and processing it and you are letting people see it and understand about the attacks of russian troops on the medical infrastructure and doctors ukraine is very cool and it is very important to understand its scale and the cost of the sacrifices of those people who continued to work in this war. and i would like the most important numbers to be announced to understand the scale of the crimes the russians are the heroism that our doctors continue to commit both on the battlefield and in the rear, i will start by saying that we are already documenting cases in medical facilities from the beginning of the full-scale invasion and, uh, at the moment, as of uh, on april 20, we recorded 318 medical facilities in which 239 facilities were damaged, and 35 were destroyed. it turns out that in these statistics

there are more attacks than the number of facilities. we were also attacked more than once we are not talking about two attacks, but even more. for example, many institutions in kharkiv oblast were attacked more than three times in zolochiv, in zolochiv or in dergachy , the north donets hospital is already temporarily in the temporarily occupied territory, e.e., during the time before the city was captured, there were about seven attacks times, according to our data, it is at least uh. that's why. well, the scale is still like this. although there are other figures, these are the numbers of our ukrainian health care center. uh , the ministry of health also collects statistics. the difference is that the ministry records mostly damage and not attacks , that is, their numbers are significantly higher and the methodology for collection is different, and let's say the definition of what is considered an object, which is

such, they also collect numbers from the world health organization they, too, often update and publish them, and they also differ in methodology, here are our numbers , they are the most conservative and the smallest, but we also have our own methodology for determining the medical object and determining the attack, and that's why actually the numbers are like that well, how can they be compared with some other statistics that are common in great wars or conflicts when we say that such numbers are proof absolutely proof that those objects were taken as the first to be destroyed as priorities, so we can, for example, compare and now we are examining this connection and trying to find similar patterns. let's say this is the war in syria. there , the medical infrastructure and doctors have suffered

very, very many attacks. the latest data, which we know from the beginning, about 400 were attacked. a total of 600 facilities were attacked. and so what does it also tell us that many medical facilities there have been attacked more than once, and actually here ? why are we looking at our own in the syrian war? in the 16th year, the russian troops took an active part in this war on the side of the army of the garden and they used this tactic of attacking medical facilities in this war as well, and there is a number of evidence collected by international organizations and other structures about the fact that the russian troops , especially their pilots, attacked medical personnel institutions in syria and indeed, this number of satags is simply insanely documented, there is a lot of this evidence

, there are even investigations published in the public domain about the fact that specific attacks are being investigated there and about the fact that it was a russian pilot who dropped aerial bombs on this hospital in syria, and now we see in in ukraine, medical facilities became such a target of attacks, especially in the first phase of the war, the first phase, we consider there the first two , two, two or three months, when hmm, the scale and massiveness - that's right, and their geographical dispersion, let's say, is simply amazing the majority of these attacks that we have documented happened precisely in this period. and in fact, we see such a connection between the war in ukraine and the war in syria that here and there medical facilities become targets. moment that, as we see, the russian troops do not comply with the international norms of international humanitarian law, not distinguishing between these free and military objects , that is why the majority of medical facilities in ukraine

were attacked precisely during selective attacks when they actually shelled civilian infrastructure, including hospitals that were functioning, which is a war crime, in syria, on the other hand, if we talk about the comparison there, yes, these were mostly targeted attacks on medical facilities when in fact, as i mentioned earlier , a russian pilot arrives there on a plane, drops an aerial bomb, and actually destroys - well, destroys his hospital and in fact here we know that this attack is targeted due to the fact that actually due to the geographical and infrastructural features of syria and the hospitals are located in such rather isolated places. well, also because of the use of weapons that are quite precisely with the coordinates, we should fly in, let's say, and drop, is it similar? we saw

something similar. last year in early march in mariupol, when the mariupol maternity hospital was attacked , it is actually similar. we can talk about the dead and injured medics, because i understand that medics die and save our soldiers at the front, pulling themselves out of the battlefield and providing help, and we know this story and volunteers and those who were military medics, as well as those who continued to help people die. well, i remember the volume of the hospital in trostyanka, let's say in the first month of the invasion , there are a lot of such stories, and kherson region, mykolaiv region, are there any numbers, and again from with these numbers, where can you turn to condemn russia ? yes , actually , we collect the numbers of only those doctors who were killed by the russians during the attacks on medical facilities. in terms of whether they were actually

wounded or killed there somewhere at the workplace in a hospital or in another environment where they could be , according to our figures, 43 doctors were beaten or wounded precisely during attacks on medical facilities , but we understand that really these are hundreds of people, hundreds of medics who could be in a different situation. even if in civilian life , not fulfilling their duties as medics and in general, uh, in terms of where to go and what to do. well, actually, it's been more than a year of war so much organizations and international and of civil society, they are collecting, documenting evil about e-e about the medical infrastructure about the doctors and in fact , hmm , i am now at the stage when such a pool has already been collected . actually these data. they have such three . if we are talking about

prosecution, they have such three directions . let's say it's uh-uh, the opening of a case and investigation by national authorities uh-uh, it's in international courts. yes, we know it's already there certain actions in the international criminal court against putin and other officials of the russian federation and the other way is the application of the principle of international juridicity when cases are considered in the courts of other countries that are subject to these principles, in fact , we are collecting evidence now and, let's say , will be transferred in the future in that organization or in that structure that can actually conduct investigations and open cases, but i want to note an important point that well, over the last decades, and in general, during all this time , in fact, there has not been a single court verdict for e a crime against medicine there is conditional for an attack that will achieve this verdict. i thank you very much, mrs. diana, for your comments, for your

work, the most important thing, and diana rusnak , even such a day of the ukrainian health care center. and we wish them a good day, we have a guest of this now, he will join us and we will talk about the african topic, especially the topic of the great sudan. by the way , there are states in africa with us there. well, what can be called a civil war is happening. mrs. marta greetings, mrs. marta, we actually don't know vasyl. i don't know much about the courts . well, i've already read a little about this conflict, but there are about 50 countries in africa, and that's how i more or less remember the name. and even sometimes i can name the capitals of these countries, but you know, so that it is good to know who is from where, and so on. well, sudan, at least. it

seems to be a country where the majority are muslims , but they always have some problems . that is, this is not their first attempt at a coup in recent years . a few years and tell a little about what what is happening on the background of what is this conflict all about now? and what is instructive for us and also the role of pvk wagner , who guarded the gold mines there first of all. region of east africa and the country was ruled by the dictator omar al-bashir for the last three decades , he was distinguished by his atrocities in darkhur , he was very often mentioned by the ukrainian media a few months ago when it came to the arrest warrant issued by the international court of justice for vladimir putin, because marak basher was the first president who was awarded such an honor, actually, he took office in

2019 , that is, after 30 years of his rule. which should have supported him. after that , a certain period of time in sudan from 2019 to lasted several months. let's say a transit period when only the military was in power . it was bloody dispersed and under the pressure of the international community, the generals of south sudan, the generals of sudan took such a step to form, let’s say , the transitional government of the country, that is, ukraine was governed for a certain time by a council consisting of half of the military generals half of the civil society representatives, but this is such a transit transition of sudan, and great enthusiasm was expressed about it, that perhaps the country will finally have a chance for

a good future, but in reality it did not happen because a year later, in 2021, the generals of sudan were removed from power, they actually made a coup after the coup, they removed the civilian representatives from power and concentrated power in their hands, and in fact two such key figures stood out in sudan , this is general alburkhan, who is in fact like the president of the country who heads all these generals and the second figure is general daglo, who is known by the name gennady, let's say , who is actually the second figure in the country, who is in charge of the ssr - this is a paramilitary group that was created from former zingjevid militiamen who are known for their brutality, avdar fury, both are generals , they are quite bloodthirsty. uh, so that uh, this is still a transit transition to a peaceful government, and

in december of last year, an agreement was signed that was actually supposed to ensure the transition of the country to the transfer of power to the hands of civilians, however generals, they cannot agree on certain key issues, in particular, on how paramilitary groups will be included in the army of sudan, how long it will take, and in fact the current situation, which has existed for several months, has become a tension between the two generals mentioned and, accordingly, in on saturday, the war entered such a heated phase . that is, it is their internal showdowns, let's say, control over the territory, but the situation differs from other african conflicts, firstly, that there are certain interests there russia, as well as the fact that sudan is located in a rather turbulent region of east africa, where there are already several hotbeds of conflict, sudan has, for example , territorial claims from ethiopia, and it could have taken advantage of this instability in sudan to a certain extent by trying to take common territories

in addition, sudan borders south sudan. were they once in the same country, in which there is also a civil war? that is, it is a large african country with very large deposits of gold. it is the third largest in the number of deposits. gold in africa, a country that has access to the red sea, accordingly, quite a lot of interests converge there , that is why it is now in the center of international attention . and please tell me if there is, well, cnn gives such information that the same gold that was controlled, in fact, the production of which was controlled by the fighters of the wagner pvk that it financed russia's war against ukraine and the role of the wagnerites in this conflict, are they directly involved in the confrontation, or do they continue to perform the function for which we pay, and do not interfere in hostilities at all, but theirs the task of gold is not gold there is trying to control, please uh actually when we talk about the interests of russia in this conflict it is worth understanding that uh general daglo is quite closely uh affiliated and connected with

wagner because together they were responsible for the development of these mines, uh, gold mines. and indeed, according to cnn, in june of last year, russia exported about 16 planes with gold to russia, which was under sanctions at the time, and we well understand what this gold actually went to, that is, to financing of her uh criminal actions and not uh in ukraine in addition to that wagnerites were responsible for the training of this paramilitary group which is actually the other side of the conflict they supplied it with weapons and in general when we talk in principle about uh about the role of russia we have to say that the intervention of the wagners has not been confirmed at the official level, but there is certain data that indicates that on the eve of the conflict on the territory of libya, which borders sudan, which is, let’s say , under the control of the pro-russian generals , the wagner planes did certain certain things

manipulators transported a certain cargo and according to sudanese sources, this cargo. that is, it was ammunition and some rockets. if i am not mistaken, they were delivered specifically for the paramilitary group of the ssr, which is the other side of the conflict, that is, there are no direct instructions. but there are certain intelligence data there are certain data in the media there is a certain typical let's say this behavior of russia and the desire to protect its interests in sudan, of which it has quite a lot, and accordingly we can base ourselves on this and omit that for russia this the conflict is profitable and in principle it is worth noting that russia can negotiate with any of the sudanese generals , it cannot negotiate only with the civilian authorities, that is precisely why it is so uninterested in the country making a transit transition and finally, let me tell you, this is how democracy was planned is there at least some initial initial stage of democracy , please, i also wanted to take you to egypt, there is such an interesting story with egypt, and what is supposed to be known through the leak of data that

russia agreed with egypt on the supply ammunition, well, i will remind you of egypt during the cold war, and there was a history of its own in the arab world, the war against israel. well, the soviet union actively supported egypt with instructors, weapons, planes, not ammunition, and i was a river last time i was in egypt, or before the war , they said there why do they love russia well maybe in ukraine, too, because the soviet union once built this dam for them and they could take a generator there, that is, they have electricity, and they said that well, thank you, because our older brother helped us. well, they have it somehow from generation to generation it was passed down in them, it lives in them, that's why it is such a natural history in them. well, when it became known, the story about these shells, the egyptian government, which, by the way , is very strongly connected now and depending on it from the trigger of the united states of america financially and economically , they said no , we will not hand over ammunition to russia, we will give it to ukraine . please tell me what became the main main motivation for the egyptian authorities to immediately turn in the other direction, as they say, 180° and say no

, we are helping ukraine. please mean this is definitely a situation. it is not open, and it is, let's say, in such and such a shadowy light. that is, we cannot say for 100% that what made egypt change its point of view, but you correctly noticed that egypt is a rather powerful partner of the united states so is russia, and it is worth understanding that this is a typical situation for many african countries that, er, this war is perceived by them, it is not a confrontation between ukraine and russia, it is more like a cold war, and it is necessary to understand that russia, although she wants to play a role but it is not in africa can dress with the united states, it cannot offer those levels of support uh, those levels that, let's say, some kind of framework for democratic changes, some necessary transformations for the state that can that can give that can stimulate the united states, that is, both in egypt and in any -which african country's judgment lies in who let's say, whose side

will they lean on ? i would like to remind you that this year we are in the a-a index of the index of democracy, the so-called freedom-house and freedom-of-the-world. god, freedom in the world. this is the name of this index. we found ourselves in very interesting company. we are actually interested in your opinion. what do you think about it? these are the countries that received one point more than us, but are also only partly free, the negro of central africa, a country that is one point lower than ukraine , the ivory cat of the former french colony . do these really have the same

freedoms and democracy as in us and in nigeria you can even see a little better the countries you named. they have their own risks, african countries, they have gone through a rather painful path of this transformation to democratic changes, and they still have fate. african countries are the result . the development of countries pushed them into independent countries with a large number of problems that they still cannot overcome, so when we talk about africa, we must keep in mind that there are also political problems there , there are very big security problems there are countries with problems with freedom of speech, there is kenya , for example, djibouti, which is trying to overcome them, which shows a good example of this, and at the same time there are those countries which you also listed and which still need certain, let's say, certain incentives and certain e- take steps forward to overcome and improve your position. and if we say, for example, about botswana , about botswana or namibia, these countries, these countries, or even ghana

, this country is called free. to parliaments of the press, i understand that we are also down due to the fact that we are now under martial law, we have introduced censorship , we have all the channels, most of the channels in one marathon under the supervision of the president's office , but nevertheless yes, these countries that you listed these are quite free african countries, these are countries in which there are no, let's say, such big security challenges in which, under the power , there are quite a lot of democratic forces that are trying to implement certain such certain transformations that will help the countries to develop better well, andrii saw another question here what is it that such a thing as this is called the big south, so very little is known about it, and even more so about africa, it is because, well , there is no need to be interested in how a mile

or the congo or the ivory coast lives there, and that's why this is very good. well, andriy and i will study this story about africa. there will be time, but i most want our ministry of foreign affairs and the relevant government officials to study whether it is possible to interest africa, what it has to offer , how to find contact with them, because it is very important in world confrontation with russia, which is looking now she has partners in eritrea, i understand most of the partners in africa, thank you very much, marta oliynyk, the girl will be researched , the frikanist spoke very well, in fact, and interesting things, well, bosfala has, for example, even gdprcita more than us by two to 2,000. that is , there is also a richer country. for example otvana well, i'm orthodox , i read earlier that they wrote about such bossual miracles, i can say without the chests of the so-called black africans there, it is in them, in many countries, there are diamonds in many countries, gold, other things resources are plentiful there, there are not many people. they have a good

gdp, maybe. listen, but on the other hand, this is $30 a month. what kind of country is it there, where they then decided to stop even printing their money and then switched to dollars, because by the time they had time to print, the paper was already expensive more expensive than the nominees, where there was a billionaire for a long time, this is just an ex, so i won’t say, it seems to me that northern rhodesia was like this before this country, and it was the richest country in general on the continent. well, then they did revolution all women yes absolutely all women and then they did by the way he is a great partner of russia now they made a revolution they kicked out all the hated colonizers they took the land from the whites eh and eh she said now let's plan elected their mogabs who by the way had a very good education for whom did the dictators get the western one, which became

tens of billions and were valued and then the money? that botswana and namibia show that these countries are at the same time the most successful and democratic, they are also correlated with these population incomes , but there are common problems now in ukraine in many african countries that are experiencing military conflicts or have often experienced military conflicts, this is population migration , forced evacuation caused by war, and so in ukraine, according to the data of the united nations, which i read literally yesterday or the day before yesterday, there are now around 36 million people living in ukraine. well, i think that almost 8 million ukrainians are very optimistic figures due to a full-scale war, they left their homes and with them lost a stable income only in the kyiv regional employment service , more than 1480 unemployed people are currently registered . the most difficult