[000:00:00;00] well, unfortunately, they do not invite specialists. i know many organizations of specialists who would be ready to advise and do something, but you can see that they themselves are smart and know what they are doing, but i can say for my organization save ukraine that i created it and for the complex of services that we have developed specifically for the restoration of the mental health of these children, and i want now to appeal to the government that the restoration of mental health is not only a psychologist who works somewhere in an office with a child. look how we return today children from well, i can't say everything, but this search for the children themselves is work with their parents, this is the preparation of these parents, this is the return itself. and it takes a lot of time after the return, documenting the crimes and

a long time in the real estate . psychologists are already working there, but for this child, for this family it is necessary to ensure permanence and safety so that they do not live again somewhere under shelling and they had something to eat and they were in fact in this atmosphere of love and care and so on, but then recovery takes place and unfortunately, sorry for that i'm sorry we have a program going on, we will talk with the russian oppositionist, we say goodbye or promise - but i promise to return to the conversation after some time it was interesting to listen i would have definitely listened further, but simply further we have a markigin and we must give him the floor mark fein russian oppositionist public politician a lawyer and a blogger. good health. thank you for taking the time to talk with us on saturday. i will switch to

the russian language, so that everyone quickly understood what we are talking about. with the whole program, i will have 14-13 minutes in russian, so that record those who keep a watchful eye on the fact that september was ukrainian-speaking, he was ukrainian-speaking when some were not yet born , but god is with them, and look, mark, you know , i have a strange question for you from personal life, let’s say i will follow very carefully what is happening in russia, i know that ah, vladimir karaburza was sentenced to 25 years . a half-closed meeting and i talked with vladimir karaburza and asked him tell me, don't you and your

colleagues in the position think that he will somehow apologize to whom i am speaking well, before the japanese for the northern territories, before the finns there before there there because of the estonians yes before the georgians before the ukrainians for the donbass krym then there was already a donbass krym and he gave me and told me yes what is my name they poisoned me it’s true and my friend was killed and really really i was also a good friend боре одинцовым well, that's how it would be now, a little bit, how he spoke from the trunk, the shift up with the menovehovs, such, somehow now it became interesting to speak with such people. how about you who already understand that the imperial problem is a problem and that somehow it must be overcome, but among the russian oppositionists there is a huge amount yes, we are against putin

. yes, we are against the war with ukraine. well, in principle, it suits us that there should be conquered peoples, that there should be another . how about us? more or less, we like it. the red line exists because even the oppositionists are so anti-russian , i think it started in august and september last year, good russians , bad russians, this is the disease of the fingers was discussed before this, no one even thought about the existence of tatars, this is already here bashkir, that there is an atom , that there is yakutia, and so on. what do you

say? here is your thought account. vladimir vladimirovich, he most likely reacted to some kind of his own personal responsibility, and in this sense, of course, he realized that in general, i do not have him , not only not in the way i am to this opponent, and so on. does the political class understand the questions addressed people who seem to oppose the reality of russia , that they bear some kind of moral and political responsibility for what they did not do and they are not responsible for this responsibility. but if they are not responsible for the country, then of course they i have to take it on myself. like it was once a volunteer who was, among other things, in the resistance, in the resistance for the borders, in immigration against the nazi regime , the veil of the radio station, and so on, on the underground radio station, which broadcast from abroad to germany on nazism got darker on his knees when he became dwe librant eh chancellor he came to poland hm so eh to the monument in the warsaw uprising although it seemed well he

bears no personal responsibility he himself fought against nazism yes well the responsibility was felt because it was not necessary to stand up for the kind of remarks he had a sister, in general , they eight his own sister and a mark of rehmariya , he was immigration, they just took the nazi , had fun, but he was not a state , he was a writer, and he made other efforts for in order to find an excuse on the one hand for the german people and somehow exhaust this blame . but the children of the state or people applying for politics must certainly bear such a morally political answer. and therefore apologies in this case if it is, so to speak, an expression of the national position, of course, it can sound, it can be more difficult to study , it would be some important event. according to this , the forum about the pairing of power and the pairing of war, where it would be declared in some declarative form, is separately taken by itself

the apologetic kormurzel and feygin the weather will not do it, let's say it directly, that is, it is expected as niki's act of repentance, which, er , requires no collective opinion . yes, so that it was weighty. it's not interesting. now we're moving on to someone's collective substance . you know what the problem is. well, really, it's deep in your head that the political entity is following the empire. you can't do anything with it . we've seen it, friends. a critic of yeltsin, despite the fact that in the 90s i was quite a member of parliament and i saw that everything is going well, maybe not as quickly as i would like, but sooner or later, a more progressive european will come to us. these are the illusions of i was special in the first planet of the 90s. i can’t say anything. we didn’t understand then that yeltsin can only be changed by putin because there was nothing from the point of view of the imperial heritage of the kremlin. it went away

. ukraine no longer has an empire, and ukraine does not pretend to some kind of uh, they don’t show ukrainian-speaking people on the territory of russia, or there in kazakhstan, or no. say it in your head, not with no, it’s a mentality, offer people here, too, soviet, it’s possible, many, but they don’t have it, because the advice is complete but in russia , this is all left more than that, and i myself contributed to the characteristic . or even chechnya will leave russia, because after putin everything will be well understood . that is, uh, this is a lack of understanding of the fact that, first of all , let the people decide for themselves, yes. and this is

even ahead. in russia because if it doesn't happen, then in a new round, in a different way, with putin's word again with an elk or someone else, everything will happen again again, we need to give the people the opportunity to decide their own fate, someone will tell the path of the kraz journey well, it's not scary let it fall apart if it wants you don't want to stay in that state and in that territorial, so to speak, political and geopolitical historical scale . i often discuss here in a private way, without e-cameras, but when the russians ask me about the future, i say, “that’s who acts correctly from the ukrainian point of view , they still do it for an apology to god.”

there will be a stigma, there will be units and units literal yes, benkovsky feygin, there may be five of them, there may be 10, just those who are constantly on the screens, we know them and we know the politics, and even those who are in emigration, who are protesting which good russians are not necessarily so they will always have doubts about their passport anyway and it is as if before the almighty you will ask what you are doing and here i was helping a ukrainian and yes indeed it is true you got it that is we will go to paradise you are not you'll go to hell, but on the streets, just the word "russian" will come, that moment will come, or "russian " it will be a stigma and it will have to be eh how is this presumptive guilt, this is not presumption, not guilt , it will be presumptive guilt, there is logic in these thoughts, of course, it is by the way say we are talking about something future and in fact, now the russian

passport is like an accusation in advance of the right guilty wrong wrong not guilty but in general it is a big problem because what is being done now is putin's regime he does not separate the garden of the russian people and russian began in general in no way, not only is it not exfoliated by the people themselves and by the government itself, which is understandable, they believe that they express this eternal united whole harmonic united whole yes, but on the contrary even somewhere it is cultivated and somehow the opposition is considered the passport is such a one that he understood that by them we mean everything that travels with friends of russians, yes, and russia and russia , including uh, this is a problem already . now there is an ego already. we will definitely behave differently, and so on. this second one, and this is possible after putin, may not be possible because, if you don’t create a prerequisite for cleansing now, then it will happen, even if it is known

, you will have to replace the russian one. a chinese passport and it will no longer be necessary to wait for a russian passport from someone, there will be nothing to clear it, you understand, it will disappear itself, this is the beginning, it means subjects, how is this, uh, this understanding is definitely not in the russian uh society, i have in the one that is free, which is unconditionally based on the position of power and in birth , the setting of this is, well, there is no understanding of this , it seems to everyone that this is a small cosmetic job, remove putin and everything will be fine, but with the russian people, for example, i change a lot scolds for what i say, where are you, i need a stick, i need to knock out this imperial beginning with a stick, he says well, we saw it again. here are the bolsheviks and so on. well , what’s the matter here at once, and here is such a combination of instruments, i’m talking about what, even if here 99 % believe and no, we will still remain an imperial nation, we will carry on the traditions of the 300-year-old house of the romanov

soviet empire, which means that almost 70-year-old putin's empire will be our home. what should we follow this narrative, this mood, these things, or knock them out with a stick? above, that's what i'm talking about. and how can you call it already all the time, you have such a harvest as it is now in ukraine ? well, forgive me, it's impossible if a russian person doesn't want to wean himself off of it, he needs to wean himself off of it, yes, i'll forgive you, i agree in that sense that i myself am discussing in kyiv, well, i discussed earlier bolshe sejjach menshe when they talk to me, too, they talked to me well , violent ukrainianization is not good , it is not a european tradition, it is not possible, we are good , we must gradually, i am talking, listen to how much was adopted from our decree and further and further from ekaterina and from petra, it means they are coming, you can’t say a word, you can’t say it in your native language, i’ll say i have to come

back to my home and very slowly , so as not to offend anyone. the second. well, we are dealer agents, we don’t have to. i think this is a big problem for the liberals, because when they take away the right to vote from liberals, they don’t give it back in one second, and then when it is necessary to take it away from someone who punched, no, we don’t have to 7-10-15 -20 30 40 years will not offend anyone will not offend yes yes yes psychologically here i am reading the court, i put the journalist horkovich under arrest and arrested khrystya grozhev in absentia about horshkov that i understand everything, he is cut off, we need a hostage, this is an exchange fund and that is why

some people from the west are being sentenced bulgarians with a place of residence are united states, uh, they are sentenced how to arrest - that's what, that's what but it's obvious that christ threatened tomorrow , he won't be accepted in moscow for sure to surrender, well , we see a huge amount of some kind of stupidity and why stupidity they cause laughter and there is nothing worse for a dictator and a dictatorship than laughter. you yourself know about this. oh, look , eh. and i will give you an even worse example. all those who are against them yes, you know what else they did to set up the cymbaluch aroman tarasybirzavsya they are also russian foreign agent idiots they are citizens of ukraine of course they are foreign agents of their state or even if they

wanted to put it on you at all as vladus said device yes, because why do you insert them into your minsk list among citizens of the russian federation citizens of ukraine who do not even have your russian citizenship , how can they be other than foreign agents, but that is, because, in general, i am talking about a very habitual, first of all, the mind of people who is this a dictatorship or is it being created in russia because, well, this decision is accepted by all of these security forces? it goes through, oh, damn , there are 300 or now already 400 people in total . i have this in april last year in these agents are almost one of the first already after the war . other journalists are making noise there, that is, they quietly brought gordon there for ah well, he is no longer a georgian of ukraine and he is still in the country , an agent in russia according to russian legislation, that’s where the madness is playing here , yes, they do it on the one hand, procedurally

, in relation to threatening yes because of georgia he lived in russia for a little while, but for a long time, he has been living abroad for a long time, being truly bulgarian by nationalism , he lived in the netherlands and so on. and they follow him like everyone else, by the way, they also carried him, yes, they brought him yesterday, in my opinion, the day before yesterday and yesterday, yesterday, and yes, this indicates that they are waiting for the procedure just in case, you know, that is , they follow it, they are really like a machine created once, like a bunny with a key in its ass, and here he is banging a drum, that is, there is logic in this, and they believe that this is bureaucratic logic. будет ичить всё это пашасятся, but

we somehow fulfilled our functionality. i think that because of his name , they have now sentenced a citizen of ukraine, but of course, citizenship asked him not to look for him like that, and by the age of nine, in absentia, for fakes against the russian army they sentenced against their own, but unknown to me in ukraine, belotserkovskaya well, it’s just that the lady zhelava of france really started to fall apart. how do you represent them? the fakes against the russian army were also sentenced in absentia by the court. well, i understood that one lives in italy, the other lives in france. well, of course , no one will extradite them. well, that’s not why they follow the procedure in full, they gave it to the end, that’s what we’re talking about. thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. see you again sober thoughts are always interesting i said so and mr. mark is very often distinguished by sobriety and calmness

on the other hand now about food although they say that a person does not live by bread alone, but bread plays a big role and it should be noted that in ukraine there is a lot of bread and it as we said at the beginning a few months ago, approximately 420,450 million people in the world eat ukrainian bread and this is important mykhailo nepran first vice president of the chamber of commerce and industry of ukraine good health mr. mykhailo it's very nice of you good good mr. mykola sneaky mykola that's what i call you well, maybe i can't talk about one topic and your fantasy turns on, let's start talking about something else , but today i think i'll come up with something this time, i'm sorry, but all my editors know

that even i don't know what will happen to me in the program, i decide it during the course of the program , unfortunately, but if you came up with this time, but nothing so extraordinary, i would just like to ask about this moment, there was a blocking of ukrainian supplies to europe everywhere, and now a series of unblockings began, why why couldn’t they do something at once? at first, they banned everything, but then in one day they unbanned everything, so then the brexit guys were hello, we need to flee from the european union , and why does ukraine move there when there is such a problem, not such a problem your version always comes up, mr. mykhailo, but you, mr. mykhailo , did not ask yourself why europeans are afraid of us brothers, the european union, well, corruption is all around , let's name things, it's all obvious, well, these

countries have corruption, well, we have legislation we are far from perfect, we have a good level of legislation, they all recognize that we have potential, but i never thought about what the europeans are doing and, well, they are afraid to take us into the european union , if we call things by their names, well, except for what they told us, yes, and now, look at the europeans, i think will be shocked and at the expense of our european integration, of course, from a political point of view, this is a course that is not subject to any discussion and no correction, but what is it from an economic point of view ? i think the europeans were, to put it mildly, shocked when they realized that tomorrow when they ukraine will accept the amount of grain that we produce and the food products of industrial production, and all this goes to the markets of the european union, where everything is divided, where everything is very agrarian market in europe, it is so very

sensitive if you take the news into the feed. they are driving with tractors and what are they putting across the roads somewhere why because the european market of europeans will try to balance it so you have to produce as much as you can't produce as much as you want and as much as you want proved the plan why because if you produce more, it will be cheaper for you, it means better conditions, and you will not get it in another country . actually, what happened is that we went to a meeting a year ago, they opened the borders for us , and before that we exported to europe, but when did we sign the free trade agreement zone the free trade zone agreement there were quotas , how much could be taken out, the europeans calculated how much we could bring in under the preferential regime so as not to disrupt the european market, which is so very, very shaky

, and even grain traders laughed at the limit corn or a quota of corn was chosen on new year's eve well and so on and then they also opened babah millions of tons 35 million tons were exported 25 million went through the black sea ports 10 million went through romania bulgaria poland poland had a harvest last year of 30 million tons ukrainians imported 3 million t 10% of the market, can you imagine what it is, they disrupted the market , that is, the same polish farmer who took a loan, sowed, harvested or his sons, no one buys anything from him because the polish coach agreed with the ukrainian coach of the ukrainian theater it is more profitable to sell to poland than to take melons to gdansk, ports around europe, long logistics, expensive logistics, the field says to him, give me a $50 discount , i will take it from you, come on, take it, you know, you and i once taught marcy zeleninism and marx once wrote an otaku fra that

i like to quote, well, it is long there i always quote the very end that there is no such crime that a capitalist would not commit in order to get a hundred percent profit yes here we are, let's call things our own there was a temptation and the people succumbed to this temptation but with them, unlike us how do you at least you say the european bureaucrats are an agro-city, but they are quite effective. they got involved right away. first, they were hit on the head. our head of the european commission said you had no right to make such a decision alone. it was a decision of the european commission, and they kept quiet because we had a meeting in sol and the minister of agriculture, i asked a question. and do you have an official notification from the polish side that they stopped, he says there is no official notification because it is a decision of the european commission, poles are not stupid people, polish bureaucrats are as wise as ours in every way the case was stopped, but they did not document it, first they were immediately given in their heads that what you are doing, you had no right

, and secondly, they immediately gave a piece of candy, first they gave a sharp piece of candy, and then they gave a piece of candy 100 million euros compensation to the same farmers and everyone calmed down, well, poland has a more difficult situation there there are elections in the fall, and there are elections, and here, as they say, the case for the opposition is ready. you see, the current government has failed blah-blah-blah-blah-blah, and there, how many imaginations do pr people have enough of, and here you have cash, that's how it went, it was promoted there mykhailo, look, a very important question is what you are telling me, if it directs my thoughts to the new, newest scheme of the general supply of agricultural agricultural products, we need some kind of governing body here. i don’t know the un, well, relatively speaking, ukraine will still continue to grow, i will tell you in secret, even though we i won't like the next phrase and russia will

continue. and we are competitors with them, then we need to find some body somewhere that will say that we are on the same level. we buy and then we give to africans we give to asians we give to somewhere else well, that is, we know that there are a lot of hungry people and in ukraine there are also a lot of people to feed answer mykola p mykola you are a liberal yes everything is enough and that is you are against the state regulating business processes i would very much i wanted the state only in the last resort, i am not against the state , but in the last resort, there will be cases in the event that, according to my sider information, the president gave the ministers on the head that they allowed such information in poland when he was on an official visit, because, too, as you say, well, they are already importing , yes, now the ukrainian customs have agreed with

the polish customs that the transit under polish, i emphasize polish control will go exclusively to the ports of inina and even the poles will accompany the transport at their own expense and there will be convoys of cars and railway traffic will be controlled, that is, there is a role of the state , we have a war and we must control , and you are right to say for us. these are not our markets. well, they are not ours . they are our markets. north africa, the middle east, our markets are the tselonov program, and mr. mykola, you, as a liberal, should support me . they export grain. i will say that normal people are from 1990. well, not the first in 1992. they say let's recycle

it, it's three times more expensive, it's more profitable. let's not know why it wasn't there. mykola. do you hear that it wasn't there ? i asked the hetman a question. we had one in the summer they have such a big meeting, we are the question, i say, danylo oleksandrovych, you are the leaders of the economic bloc in our country. look, at one time, in my opinion, it was 1996 or 1997. kuchma made an unpopular decision and, after prohibiting it, raised the duty on the export of grain sunflower and as a result, processing appeared with you, oil appeared, we now occupy the third place in terms of oil exports. and before that, we exported hundreds of thousands of tons of sunflower seeds, and what was the pressure on kuchma, and the europeans and russians took them somewhere to rostovsk and krasnodar krai, but he survived as a result. i say, why didn’t you accept the ban on the export of sueripak? we honestly

said that we didn’t have enough strength. if you want to go on, it means there will be a different tariff, but mykola, as they say, we spoke in slang, so i can say it in russian, because it doesn’t sound very good in ukrainian. problems with the export of actual grain have led to the fact that this year the conversion of producers from grain to oil crops began, that is, the people saw that you grew grain and then not only did you run to find a place to sell it, but it must be stored and stored nowhere, because half remained in the occupied territory for traditional in the south, the ports are broken and plastic sleeves are starting, and some poems are some farms, so this year they began to sow more sunflower seeds, fishermen, soybeans, what

are we talking about, we are in trouble, and the war is forcing us now to the point that we start doing it and uh, you know, we didn't want to do it for good, but we probably have such a national mentality, we can't do it for good, we need to be given a head , then we will do something, but we are very forced. first of all, the vice president of the chamber of commerce and industry of ukraine was in touch with us, it was a very interesting conversation, but there is not even that, but first of all, you need to know what is happening in the world, and iryna koval, who will now host the news on the espresso channel, mrs. iryna , i have a word with you. thank you mr. mykola i wish you good evening and i will literally tell you about the situation in ukraine and the situation at the front in a moment . and we will also learn about when new nuclear power units will appear in ukraine, so