[000:00:00;00] that they cannot use all the motherland treasures that they have accumulated. and in the future they may even lose everything . let's remember the recent statement by the ukrainian that a significant part of the russian economic elite, and in some places the political elite, is already starting to look for ways to avoid punishment and save at least part of everything that they managed to sketch during the period of being in putin 's circle uh, from other economies of the world. well, first of all, european ones, so i think that we can look at this story in two ways. on the one hand , it is clear that if they have more money, it means that they are still represented somewhere

on the world market, and on the other hand, we must to be aware that sooner or later russia will have to compensate for all the damages caused to ukraine in particular, and due to that it is good that they have money, there will be something to compensate for mr. valentino, now i may ask such a question very simply because when the european union or the united states introduce the purpose of the sanctions here is final, i would say the final one, so that the russian federation runs out of money, or is it more of a warning that the civilized world can destroy the russian economy, well, we are very well there when we say the 10th and 11th package of sanctions are personal , but what should he know e an ordinary person who sees how the world e is fighting russian aggression is the destruction of the economy is it still frightening to bring to one's senses and continue working

after admitting one's defeat ? it is asked in two parts, the first part is to deprive russia of opportunities and the ability to enter this war, that is, to deprive russia of its resources, resources that are both financial and technical, but we understand that weapons are needed. well , they are not fighting with axes now, but even if they fought with axes, it would still be the same these axes must somehow be produced accordingly. they have problems. yes, with these chips and with these boards and with these engines and a lot of other points , that is, they are practically afraid on the field, everything is finalized, so the first component is to make it impossible or make it as difficult as possible for russia the conduct of this war, and the second is difficult - this is what you also mentioned that the russian federation should demonstrate that it needs to correct

its behavior if they do not change anything in their positions and their behavior will continue to behave as they do. the necks of their economy will only increase because of that. well, in principle, one does not exclude the other, and i would say that they go exactly side by side, that is, i am inclined not to think, but i already said about this above that many economic processes which they are happening at the global global level, they are irreversible, that is, very simply, russia will not be able to return to the world economy, to civilization, to civilized relations with the whole world, even after they are defeated. that is, they will not be under certain sanctions for a very long time and under a certain pressure, by the way , my colleagues and i held a round table not so long ago, well, on this topic, and there we heard such

a term as platification of russia, well, pacification , well, in the literal sense of this word, how to do so that the russian government or in russia what kind of state, if it survives well, there was neither the desire nor the opportunity to introduce an aggressive foreign policy and resort to military force in order to overcome their own gods, and we would know that, for example, after the first world war well, it also happened the pacification of germany, we know that it turned out to be unsuccessful, because germany literally started another war after a few tens of liters, that is, it determines that the pacification was not effective, but the pacification that took place after the 45th year after the defeat of, for example, germany or japan in the second world war, neither japan nor germany are currently militaristic states . they have absolutely neither the desire nor the ability to start another war by and large, so there is

nothing wrong if such processes take place in relation to russia as well. i think that it is clear to the residents themselves, first of all, that the people of those regions can finally use the money, the natural wealth there, almost immeasurably, to increase the well-being of people, and not to kill them. other people's neighbors, this is a very important point, and i tend to think that those people who are involved today in the development of a female against the russian federation, they are also thinking about this issue, how to do it, how to create such conditions in which such phenomena that we are observing today, this bloody bacchanal is unleashed it will be simply impossible for russia. well, to what extent it will be possible to achieve this in the foreseeable future, again, everything depends on the results of the hostilities. and here we come to the first point that we started in our own country. well

, while russia retains the ability to wage this war she will introduce this war with whatever rhetoric she would use, but that is not all . therefore, it is necessary to create a language in which she will not be able to wage this war, she simply will not have the resources for that, the conditions under which russia would not be able to bypass because what we are seeing now and taking into account that russia continues to import even basic nails, for example, from china, and e.g. from multicookers, from teapots, pots, which they then use for their weapons, which they fight on the territory of ukraine, but it is not prohibited to import such equipment, for example, that is, is this a circumvention of sanctions or not? well, who knows how they look at this is how it will be. how will it be? well, look here, you need to be aware that there is another phenomenon such as a parallel and imported example . yes, that is, when these or other products are presented against the

will of the producers. well, that is, there are some companies that did not leave and in general from russia it is necessary to understand that there are certain organized criminal mafia groups that are also trying to make money from it well, certain complex schemes are being created, let 's not forget this one i say that when the security service of ukraine detained boguslaev it turned out that motor sich sold its engines to russia to the aggressor country, well, through third countries, and these third countries were , in particular, nato member countries and members of the european union, well, that is, this fool that gasket companies even therefore, it is very difficult , in fact, you understand what it is everything is not so easy to track well and then prove that when the security service took up this issue , i can only imagine the level of complexity of the task they had to solve in order to discover all this well and it is clear that well, the russians don't sit idly by either. they are also looking for ways

to avoid this, but for the sake of justice, we also have to realize that all this complicates things, yes, that is, it's one thing to mess with a coffee maker , then i exaggerate, and another thing to buy directly, that is, it's not easy chips are chips that are directly intended for the production of one or another military equipment. that is, these are two different tasks, so it would definitely be better not to sell coffee makers there or these er-e about where they come from and how they will be carved out to carve out merry christmas from these postcards as well, well, that is, it will still be present, but you just understand the scale , others, that is, gray imports, black imports , parallel imports. well, he still will not be able to fully compensate for all the restrictions that are currently being introduced against russia and we see how china's position is changing, we see how india's position is changing on this issue, because they were also explained that gentlemen, we understand your noble desire to make money at the expense of russia

, but understand us correctly, what if we we bear a certain burden, well, because of the restrictions that we apply to russia, then this is not very correct on your part . yes, because it creates certain competitive advantages for you . we will probably apply certain measures against you in order to deprive you of these competitive advantages, and we see that it is working . remember the statements of the prime minister of india, moldi , who recommended that banks and business entities refrain from certain types of economic cooperation with the russian federation, you are referring to china, china is also popularly explained in the united states of america, where do they get the chips from, well, they pay, and where do they get the chips from, so i think that in fact it is, well, how

to say russia, it will be more difficult with each day by day, it will be more and more difficult for them, firstly, to bypass those sanctions, and secondly, to compensate for the fact that they obtain bypassing sanctions, the needs that they have, well, don't forget that war is not only ammunition projectiles, rockets, it's banal, antibiotics, painkillers, bandages, and a bunch of other, well, such banal things, let 's take a look in some place, their medicine is now constantly being talked about. yes, even in the occupied territories, if they did, they completely destroyed the health care system. that is, it is free for our citizens who found itself now under occupation, essentially deprived of access to medicine, because everything is only exclusively for these treatments, and theirs, these extra ones, that is, it will spread, and there is another concept of the cumulative effect. that is, you understand that one

this is imposed on one, you are imposed on the third, and these are login-like processes, they are currently increasing in russia. well, it is clear that there are certain compensatory mechanisms, well , it is clear that they also wrote about this at the beginning of the war, that in principle it will not be so difficult for the russian government to maintain a very low standard of living of the russian population, i don't think that the russians will lose a mcdonald's , there has never been one, so they go to the toilet near the yurts, i don't know why they stole the toilets well, they don't have sewage, why did he bother to connect them therefore, it is necessary to realize that the big cities are their legendary middle class, so it suffered, so a part of the population left the country , but the majority of the population lived very badly . yes , and they continue to live very badly. thank you, valentin glykh , a political analyst at the united ukraine center, was in direct contact with us, well , apart from what is happening with the economy

of the russian federation, the whole world is watching the supply of western weapons to ukraine expecting that only wine will be able to help the armed forces of ukraine to win the war that was unleashed by russia, at the same time about the own developments of the ukrainian military-industrial complex, which are currently crushing the invaders on the battlefield.

we look further to the russian invaders - and the strengthening of the military-industrial complex , support for the peace plan of volodymyr zelenskyi and further steps for

ukraine's acquisition of nato membership, the secretary general of the alliance visited kyiv on april 20 saw with his own eyes evidence of the crimes of the russian occupiers, i visited the destroyed bucha, we will hear the main statements later, mr. president, i am here with a simple signal, nato stands with ukraine, the alliance is ready to start a new chapter in relations with ukraine, a chapter of ambitious decisions, nato will continue the company to strengthen the ukrainian armed forces, our goal is a powerful military-industrial complex ukraine, the further our soldiers will be able to move forward, the faster ukraine and the whole of europe will return, the most important thing is peace, peace is a key element of world security, therefore

the alliance supports president zelenskyi's peace plan , the nato summit can become historic . for ukraine, throughout europe, in the world, nato stands with you, mr. president, and will stand as long as necessary pavlo lozin is in direct contact with us, an expert on domestic and of security policy mr. pavlov, i wish you a good night. glory to ukraine, it is very nice that jensto is a desirable member of nato. well, of course, it was nice, but what i drew attention to was that he said that all nato members are ready to vote for the fact that after the war after the victory of ukraine, it became a member of nato and

to which orban immediately reacted. he said that he is sorry for us at all, that no one asked us at all, and we still have to think at all. whether to participate in this vote is not the right thing to say. yes, who to believe and what are we talking about here, are we ready to see if there are still certain disputes yes, sweden was supposed to join nato there, but because of the position of turkey , it is not yet a member of nato. because of the integration of the swedish forces with the alliance forces and the integration of the military industry of sweden with its non-industrialization of the alliance countries , that is, there are problems here

. my since 2010, yes, and until now, the boss of montenegro is nothing. the alliance, therefore, here, in fact, uh, a lot depends. there is no position of uh, orban, or there was no one there yet. and here, a lot depends on how long it will actually ukroboronprom cooperates with ukroboronprom in europe on the production of projectiles for the armed forces of ukraine and through such integration economic integration will be realized, including the integration of ukraine with nato, and besides, there is also a bright example , here is the newest turkish drone equipped with a ukrainian engine, well, the process

is already underway замоделе всё завсит того как э-э когда э-э украина победит and so we drew attention to the fact that yan stoltonberg just one of his main statements was related to the strengthening of the military-industrial complex here mr. pavlo can we note that there is is the formation of such a new agenda is not just support with certain weapons, but also the involvement of the ukrainian economy as much as possible for the creation of its weapons here, this is possible . taking into account the fact that certain factories do not have time to go to the united states, which are in the territory of the european union, to renew even their own stocks, that is, ukraine must learn to do everything myself well, this is just not the right way because the right way is er division of labor, participation in

cooperation and er production with the maximum high quality of what o-o-o you can produce as much as possible well, if ukraine can produce eh very good aviation engines eh helicopter engines even ship engines then why is ukraine trying to eh produce eh something like that what it does not produce now you have in front of my eyes is the completely suicidal path of russia, which she tried to do everything herself and in the end she drove herself into a dead end. i drank myself out of all uh-uh operating uh-uh enterprises of initiatives uh, but by the 27th year, she already sawed herself out, she started to saw out the beginnings

of september 2011, yes, and since the fourteenth , the process is generally not reversible, and that is the poet of that, yes, therefore, on the contrary, the maximum integration is the maximum , if we look at the operation of the division of labor there at vtk, uh, now it’s not even possible to say whether it’s american or european, so far there ’s such integration with uh, it’s mutual between american and european companies , even the aforementioned swedes, yes, saap, which is developing a new educational training plane, uh, space, all kinds of interesting things together, uh, aviation is understandable , armored vehicles, artillery, everything is, that’s why the operation is only a bet on what you can do, it leads to the best possible outcome, and buying something that you don’t produce because in any case, it will be cheaper than trying to produce everything yourself, even by the way, by the way, the most interesting example, which many

people forget is the soviet union. it didn’t even happen . it relied on electronics imported by the soviet union in air defense systems. ships , separate types of ships, imported from poland izgr e-e , including yes . that is, even the soviet one, this is a planned system of a poor economy. as a result, he is committing a great crime, he is waging a war there against the whole world, and in general, i mean, he is committing suicide and wiping himself out of the international political economic system. things, this school is so-called, it is the same thing that happens during rammstein, because when 50 countries of the world, more of which are nato members , collect all their weapons in one country, which is

ukraine, and actually someone tests their weapons on those on the battlefield ukrainian because we also talked by the way about the fact that many countries do not even know how war is waged with this technology because they have never used it. that is, it is also an example for european countries and for nato countries, how it all happens. well, this is actually annoying russia is right. well, what is the alternative for them maybe, well, there is no alternative for them, they will have to waste their weapons, which they riveted from, well , mostly from 2011 to 2020, and what is there for storage, childhood of soviet times, more there will be no development, that is, when ukraine is supported by 50 countries of the alliance, including, as you correctly said

, all kinds of experimental developments and so on. in order to increase it at least there, at least well at least in any significant production, er, the technology that she was able to produce, she actually, er, will build up her own backlog, because in develop something more advanced, more perfect, and launch it in a series, that is, while the whole world is moving forward . not there will be some separate productions that have been disbursed, er, part of which will work in the factory mode

, therefore, er, in russia, what russia is actually doing now is the extension of its own . oh, they are on the battlefield, that is, political russia lost the war, economic russia lost the war lost its position now much worse than it was back there on february 23, 22 , although it was already far from sugar obvious, we will not escape. yes, this fraternization is a degradation on all fronts - this is a degradation, including the military industry, which in general is not capable here of itself in isolation from the existing peace, mr. pavlo, what would we ask you to consider the results of the last rammstein which took place last friday eh or ah strategically everything is happening right now, i mean that there was a statement

by the minister of defense, mr. reznikov , that the planes will be here, we are all worried, this is a lot, a whole plane of 16 planes will be but now we we focus on the greatest needs and all our partners understand our needs no, well, judge, because it is happening, where everything is going , everything will be, the question is not here, not so much there, in something, there is a desire, not a desire, it is a technical question, because it is a plane - it will not only give a plane there mmm and the pilot, we still service the technical airfields , this is the use of these aircraft from the other side, yes, natovit already represents the aviation of ukraine, only these are helicopters , mainly, yes, there, well, soviet developments there

and-and well, the plane, the helicopters, the mile, yes, and in the fall, there are 18, there are the mi-24, and these are the planes, eh, mig-29 . yes, but when all the technical problems will be solved, when it will be clear how to integrate the air force, yes, we will be there in the summer of 16 the same thing, to integrate with other ukrainian troops with other types and types of troops of ukraine. that's when ukraine will naturally receive everything, not only in 16, but also in the future. i think ukraine when you are a naf-35 coup ruzhitsya simply this will be with me not today not tomorrow and in an hour

but a little later, exactly after we won the war over russia, well, there is integration into the military education system, when there is integration in the field of tactics. nato, but on the other hand, well, for example, when poland joined nato in 1999, it became a member of the alliance. it was armed mainly with soviet weapons, and this is not prevented poland from being an effective member of nato from the very beginning, so i think that this is all parallel processes that mutually complement each other, but they are different at the same time, that is, there is also the transfer of ukraine and its training in the military forces according to