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[000:00:00;00] is already a nomination, at least if at least if his health remains as it is now, there will be no signs that he will not be able to fulfill his duties. i think that no democrat who can have dreams there in himself somewhere inside in his head about the presidency, he will not, uh, put forward his candidacy, that is, if biden makes a statement, or if he runs, if his health remains as it is, then he has real rivals, the democratic parties, i think he will not. well, let's talk then about opponents of the republicans, it can be assumed that the next election will again be a duel between trump and biden, especially
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against the background of reports that the governor of florida is clearly losing his distance there. it is already a fact that we are all facing now, so trump will be nominated by the republican party as well as a presidential candidate, because desantis was theoretically the only rival in reality. well, he is not it remains, but according to polls among republicans, that is, trump will be supported by more than 50% of average republicans in all polls, and 23% of paratroopers are the largest. well, there is such a gap here. i think that it is not unrealistic to overcome, and the point is that i will achieve it, it will be very difficult to do because trump supporters, well, they remain trump supporters and there is no need for some kind of trump number two , the more polite trump is, the person of the paratroopers , er, they need trump. - and not supporters of the injury of the republican party well
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, of course they are uh, too, uh, there are enough of them well probably a little less than half of the registered republicans, but uh, their sympathies can be divided between different candidates. and besides, desertis is a very right-wing politician, and republicans who adhere to such more symmetrical views , they do not support trump , so trump’s chances of becoming a candidate are well huge i would say not even very big huge for today you know when trump was elected president of the united states when he received this nomination it might seem that this is an amendment of the republican party it temporary and connected exclusively with uh. this is what i would say at the moment. sooner or later, republicans will return to their traditional values, let's say, conservative , moderate, careful about people, reforming society, well, these values, which in principle
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define them as the party of reagan. let's say mccain and here we see already for the eighth year , in fact, the republican party remains a trumpist party more and more, but the question arises, in fact, the trump party is not very similar to the republican party , how much room is there for this ideology which the republicans adhered to for ten years, if it doesn't stand. i would say that from what i see just by observing life in the united states, i have decided in different areas of the country that the ideology is such a traditional republican ideology that it has simply become much less popular. and society has become very popular that is, i am like that, an ultra-right, very right-wing trend, which i think has nothing to do with that conservatism, which was really reagan's, let's say
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there is an older bus, a younger bus, that's it by senators kane and this led to the fact that a lot of people with such very right-wing, ultra-right views simply came to the republican party. well, let's face it, even with the fascist ones, we'll just talk, and on the other hand , many people left the republican party whose views , let's say, like as there have always been republicans, even a lot of political technologists who managed the republican campaign companies of the republican presidential and senate candidates, they simply left the republican party because the composition of the party has changed very much and where is the place now of those republicans who are simply conservative politicians, it is difficult to even say about one , some of them simply supported
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biden in the 20th year, well, a small part, some of them probably did not take part in the elections. well, let's say if you and i are going to evaluate such a republican as senator krem, well, he is a classic republican, but he didn't give it. how is he alone in the hotel of the peasants, er, in an interview , he said that he will support trump in the next year's elections, that is, it is possible, it is possible on the other side to say whether he separately supports the one who is strong today, this can also be the case , well, i don't literally see republicans, even such a one . i have not seen such republicans, she has the support of her own party. they can have support among independent voters, they belong so that in order to become a candidate in the elections , you need to be nominated by the party, and i just
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don't see any modern republican party the possibilities of such a candidate, let's say, who is the late senator, who is such a candidate, what kind of senator is he, so that they can argue with trump or, let's say, with desantes for the leadership of the republican party with a nomination with the president, the party has greatly improved this i am a problem because for a healthy society , of course, it would be necessary to have two strong parties with different geologies, but these are two strong parties with different ideologies, which nevertheless share the fundamental values of society, because if we have common foundation, we can argue about how we should build it. there is a beautiful house on this foundation. if there is no foundation , then it is not clear what we can build. and here
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it is, here it is, here it is, the struggle between the very, very right-wing trend of the republican party and i would say to all other politicians in america it is intensifying now, it is really very acute and it is also intensifying. and tell me this, if you evaluate the realistic electoral base for such views, it provides an opportunity for the future. we are not even saying the 224th election i generally speaking, it is strategic to win elections if we say so not only ideologically but socially limited . let's try to say this electoral base of such views. i think that it does not give. it can give certain tactical advantages, especially if we say well, imagine there will be an economic crisis , let's suppose unemployment has increased , there will be high inflation, this will lead to
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the fact that people will be dissatisfied, and then the great candidate trump will say, well, he will have his advantages if he describes what he will become the president tomorrow and in 24 hours everyone will be satisfied, but strategically this position cannot secure the votes of the voters, look at the republican party if we look at the results of the presidential elections in the 21st century . george bosch jr. in 2004, he won the majority of the votes of the voters in the country as a whole once and if there was no american electoral system, it would be just uh-uh. this would be the only one such a single time the only time
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the republican candidate would become the president, and such ideas are right-wing, or very right-wing, they are not popular among the majority of voters who do not belong to any party, but the congressional elections last november showed this very, very clearly, because the republican party had a lot of candidates who were personally nominated by trump and they won very easily in the primaries with the republican party, but at the same time , many of them lost the elections in their districts, that is, it was expected that the republic gets such a very large advantage in the chamber representatives that their victory will be so convincing that they will have 20-30 more seats there, and their advantage turned out to be very logical, only four seats in the house of representatives, because there are a lot of such very, very right-wing candidates, they simply lost because independent voters don't mind , voters just didn't want to vote for them, so voters are just tired
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of the results, the rhetoric that comes from the same trump and from those members of congress who supported him, that is, strategically, i think that this is a short-sighted strategy of the republicans if they continue to bet on such a right-wing trend of their party, a very right-wing trend of their party, because it will not be popular among the majority of voters in the country as a whole , although it may be popular, of course, in in some regions, especially in some provincial constituencies, well, i can’t imagine that god will decide who was elected there, let’s say taylor green, to elect someone else, well, any republican about the region, and that’s right, any democrat there does not receive almost any votes, but in the country as a whole
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, there are still fewer such districts than those where people can support such ultra -ultra-right populist slogans. and say this, if we are talking about medger and allergin, this is part of it from the american political aspect, why did they now write this letter regarding ukraine's support to president biden, why this now, are there any rational points in it? i think there are no rational points there. i read it carefully, but it is clear that the letter was prepared quite carefully, they rely on it, they refer to it, they have references to uh-uh, various analytical studies of all kinds of such centers of right-wing political thought. and why are they right now, well, first of all, they wrote the party in order for it to be read by the president, because what’s the point of communicating with the administration of the members of congress there are uh behind the scenes on
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public mechanisms if they really want to achieve something from the administration then they will not publish open letters and right now i think that among other things because uh now uh it became clear that trump will win the nomination from the republicans for the president, that the paratroopers are losing support, and that's why they feel this way. in the minority among legislators from their party well, it was to continue doing it, everyone signed this letter and voted against all aid packages in ukraine. in other words, this is not something new, it is possible that what they are carrying is
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now it's in the public domain, and using this opportunity , they should continue to do it in the future. i think that ukrainian diplomats in washington should work with those republicans with whom you can work, that is, i wouldn't say that this is a comfortable job, work, let's say with the speaker on the card, who absolutely understand what russia is, what putin is, and what good and what is evil, and yet, even here, he spoke on the phone with the president of ukraine, and the press service of volodymyr zelenskyi reported this exactly volodymyr zelenskyi reported this to mccarthy, it is kept secret, that is, he writes 10 flowers a day, but he does not report this, his press service does not report it . why, because he is afraid of this from this legal wing in his party, so they know that he talked with zelensky well, but surely if he doesn’t report about it, then they have nothing to discuss
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, that is, they can’t say, but i’m like that, why did you talk to zelensky , that is, not in the american press, we won’t find any information about this conversation at all, anyway we will find no notices about the service on the map. i think that it is precisely because he is afraid of these ultra-rightists from his party , in fact, he somehow became the speaker, he made various concessions, including changing the rules of the house of representatives, any member of the house of representatives can now propose a vote of no confidence to the speaker earlier, before this, we played very, very many signatures in order to ask such a question , not a vote, but now managers can come out and he does not say, i propose to vote for him as the speaker of the confidence card well and he will cease to be the speaker as a result of a-ah and will be the speaker, it was his dream. well, nevertheless, i think that a ukrainian diplomat should work with him and with other republicans who, after all
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, understand well what is good and what is evil and and those who vote have already voted in favor of allocating money for aid in ukraine. well, it makes no sense to work with the march of the green man , it will not change, but to work with those from whom it really depends on whom, in particular, with mccarthy and his entourage, because we are the maps that determine he will determine the agenda of the representatives' tents, whether to vote on budget allocations for aid to ukraine or not . well, you need to work with them very, very much, but you need to knock on them every day, and in principle, trump is changing. so when he says that the war will end, it's just when they take him president, even doina horatsi , what does he mean? i think that he does not change at all. well, do you mean that if before his inauguration, it is difficult to say because it is so simple, just populist rhetoric
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but but if he becomes president for what well he can stop aid to ukraine he can meet putin there and i don't know what to promise him well he can do anything he wants he can do what he didn't do in 2018 when let's say john bolton his former the national security adviser was sure that he would now go to the nato summits, announce his withdrawal from the chat, he could do it at any moment if he becomes president again, that is, of course, how can he stop the war just by simply stopping aid to ukraine, that is, simply by giving putin the opportunity to do whatever he wants, and, by depriving ukraine of american weapons, he also lost the opportunity to liberate his territory, so he can stop the war, and
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they started. well, it had to be stopped in a completely different way admit ukraine to nato and give security guarantees, that could really stop the war, well, trump, trump won't do that, thank you. i think that he doesn't change and he won't change, that is, he will be the way he was he is thank you pretend to be a professor of york university. thank you for being on our air. and now, mykola knyazhytskyi, ukrainian people's deputy, head of the ukrainian-polish interparliamentary group , mr. mykola, congratulations , let's start with this grain conflict , how serious is it in general, where its roots and how to really solve it, well, its roots really, and i read your article, you are largely right in it, its roots are really in the political plane and not in the economic
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, and domestic political polish plane as well as many other countries, we obviously know that the aggressor country, the russian federation, pays particularly close attention to this internal political life of our neighbors and the countries of the european union, so your reasoning that you are beneficial to putin is obviously logical , but very often the people who initiate it do not think who benefits from this because there was minister marik savitsky, who retired, the former polish minister of agriculture, the minister of agriculture, and he talked about the fact that 4 million tons of ukrainian grain a-a denys marchuk, who represents the ukrainian
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grain association, she proved some official figures that ukraine sold another 700 thousand tons to poland. should rise, but later the prices , world prices, not only the polish ones, they fell, and obviously the farmers could not sell this grain at the prices at which they should have sold it and could have sold it if the polish leaders themselves had given it to them they didn't promise before and they needed to somehow justify themselves and obviously the easiest to define extreme ukrainians are products because they first imposed a barrier and not only a canopy but also on transit now thanks to the efforts of both sides with polish and ukrainian as far as is known transit is still the same opens, but obviously we know what efforts are being made to transit ukrainian grain across the sea with what restrictions due to negotiations with the aggressor country turkey with the participation of the un and for us this way to the west is the only way to sell of our products, which fills our budget so that we can live normally, exist normally, when
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other countries followed the polish populist example. obviously, this is a very serious blow to the ukrainian economy , and this blow is not beneficial to anyone else except the russian federation, and there are actually reasons for this well, i don't see it, and now i and my colleagues from our ukrainian-polish parliamentary delegation are making a request to the official ukrainian body and the polish one to understand how much there was in general sold this ukrainian wheat, what quality is it? it is not only about wheat , for example, they banned the supply of honey , but last year honey was supplied to poland and less was sold before the war. that is, it is a very strange and confusing situation where the numbers do not match each other we sell less and we are prohibited even from transit. it is obvious that we should suspect a russian hand here, which is trying to destabilize the internal situation in poland , other countries of our allies, very simply, i
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think i have all the reasons for this. and tell me in principle, if we talk about the current situation with the ukrainian agricultural sector . what should ukraine do to preserve agriculture ? we may need to talk to the european commission. we may need to think about some other transportation routes. well , first of all, we signed an association agreement and we must, that is, everything these countries do, they do everything contrary to the water on the association decision of the european commission of the european parliament, by the way, this is another very important point, because in fact it undermines the integrity of european politics, it also a russian goal, because this causes conflicts within the european union and violations of european obligations by our closest allies, which calls into question the unity of the european union, the european commission is acting. in the water about uh and contrary
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to the previous agreements on trade and contrary to the association agreement is happening so definitely i think that the european commission will pay very, very serious attention to this that our farmers should look for sbu markets then of course they are looking for them, but we need this situation and here, of course, our government must be active and also actively pursue an information policy, explain it to the ukrainian and polish society what is happening so that some political speculators, who, by the way, belong to other parties, they are not they don't belong to piz. they are trying to undermine the ruling polish party , but they are their allies. they are trying there, the party of the peasants , for example. ukrainian products are contaminated, they do not meet economic standards, in one word, our government must guarantee that these are quality products, tell us how much we sold to it, and
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explain to our society and our partners what is happening, so the position of our government should be more active. and in principle, if we talk about how much this election situation in poland may affect its solutions to economic problems, not only economic ones. well, we perfectly understand that the two main political forces are the bis and the bulat platform together with allies from a group of parties that can create another coalition if they win the elections, both of them are pro-ukrainian, but in reality, unfortunately , both of them accuse others of not being sufficiently pro-ukrainian, and they are trying to use this situation in domestic politics , we really don't want that we wanted to be really important, just like in the united states and in poland, bipartisan support is very important to us and ruling the party positions and we have always
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unfortunately had some smaller parties try this bipartisan support in one way or another a way to destroy and use the ukrainian map in the confrontation of these irreconcilable rivals on the polish political scene . i would really like to, i believe that both the leaders will have enough wisdom, after all , at least in this matter, we will be united, well, it's me i am already speaking for myself and quoting your article, or rather your speech on espresso, which i also watched with great interest and with which i also agree, mr. mykolay. let 's talk about the situation related to the church , but now it is known that part of the representatives of the uoc mp appealed to the ecumenical patriarch bartholomew, what does this mean at all, can they appeal to him in such a way, how will it look, we read the interview of the head of the humanitarian committee , pturaev, about what they think there about
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the second tomos, then i spoke with nikita ruslan, what is he saying? we did not mean the tomos as a document that testifies to the independence of the church, but the tomos as a document that testifies to the patriarchy, that we will fight for the patriarchy for the kyiv orthodox throne, and any document that comes from the church, it is called a tomos, but for this we need to unite the so-called pcmp with the pcu. well, i am somewhat skeptical about this, because it seems to me that the main thing is the prohibition of russian influence. it was such an old idea that part of the priests of this churches will turn to the ecumenical patriarch in order to actually become part not of the kyiv metropolis but of the constantinople patriarchate and because they in no way want to accept the tomos that was given to the epiphany. it seems to me
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for them it is their mistake and as far as possible it is normal to decide constantinople e-e and e-e directly by bartholomew to patriarch bartholomew but it seems to me that this is a very complex construction and this construction in principle, it is not decisive , what is decisive for ukraine is still to fix the ban on - the possibilities of the activity of the russian church in ukraine and any connections with it , and how it will act later, would those act, if any , in the uoc mp. will they appeal to the ecumenical patriarch or will they create their own religious community. they have the right to do so, even if it is independent of the community . the main thing is that this community should not have any ties with moscow, the problem is that the majority of this church does not want to sever ties with moscow, this is the problem a tell me now, when the regional councils make a decision to ban the activities of the uoc-mp in their
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regions, or the representatives of the authorities are absolutely correct. it is one thing when the representatives of the authorities approve it. it is another matter when people simply come and forcefully take away the temples. we have seen whether this is the end. the risk that ukraine will accuse me of not complying with the convention on human rights is extremely high. the risk that they will later win the courts is obvious. this risks leading to confrontation. because those regions that announce it are usually the central western region in the east. no one announces it and it may happen that it will actually be a church its activities will be stopped in western and central ukraine or in certain regions and in the east. on the contrary, it will become even more popular, this is another reason for civil conflict in ukraine, it is very dangerous. and all this is happening because the authorities do not want to adopt a law that indicates the fact that the activities of the russian church are a threat to national security
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, if only this were accepted, then it obviously removed the claims that were explained to the opposition of the ukrainian state for our european partners, in general, for world partners because that we are not talking about banning the church, we are talking about banning contacts with a structure that is part of the fsb of the russian army, this is absolutely normal, but it has to be done, the government does not want to do it, and it can aggravate the situation, well, it is very dangerous, having no way out, now they want to talk again and talk about it is possible to introduce a government law into the hall, which for some reason the president instructed the nsdc to prepare after the parliamentary law of high quality , which meets all international obligations, was registered in the verkhovna rada, it is still not submitted to the rada, and the the government law, well, that is, it is obvious that i will vote for any law that we try, which will somehow limit the influence of the russian church, but the government law will not solve the issue, because its implementation in order to ban the activities of the russian
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church in ukraine will stretch at least for 5 years according to this government law, because it provides for some prescriptions that do not have legal force, to be submitted to the court, to pass the judge of all instances. well, we were witnesses, but now in the pechersk court, for example, in a dispute between mr. portnov and the journalists of the freedom of other media radio, e-e recognized the right of tunaportnov e said that he acts as an active journalist and therefore other media had no right to write there that he is not a journalist, it is obvious that he is not a journalist yes, but the influence on the courts of all pro-russian forces were preserved very strong, therefore the government law should be put into practice in fact well, i do not believe that this will be possible , what is happening in the monasteries is also strange , thank you , thank you, mr. mykola.
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ukrainian-polish relations with the religious situation in the country, and now i only have to pass the floor to my colleague aniewa melnyk, she will give you the latest news of this day at this hour, and i will return to the air literally in a few minutes to talk with the writer oksana zabuzhko, who came to us in we already have a studio we are waiting for her literally folded for a minute please good evening in this edition i will tell in particular about the fact that in the capital for races during the war they handed out summonses about this and not only further stay with us three people the following consequences of the nikopol drone attack were reported by the mayor oleksandr sayuk: one thirty-three -year-old man received shrapnel injuries, and two others
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