[000:00:16;00] on the 24th, victory is soon, and it is already close, let’s hold on and break through to ukraine. glory to ukraine , join the brave, defend your ukrainian weapon. victory from the first days of the invasion, it took the fight with dignity. this is the legendary ghost of kyiv on our mig-29 , covering the sky. on land, it is our neptune that sunk moscow and changed the course

of the war, we are already doing it, it is already ours stugna alder neptune sea drone and other things in the hands of the strongest army in the world ukrainian weapons of victory continue to defend our native land armored vehicles make hell for the enemies along the entire front line, our stormtroopers burn the occupiers to the ground, our mineral eyes have not slept for more than 300 days, we have something to be proud of, all this is our ukrainian made with hatred for the enemies, respect for the ss and love for the native land, warriors are not lazy, lazy

and our cause is righteous, holy, because who is for what? and we are for independence. so it's hard for us because of that . now home is the most important journey. i've reached it. it 's only your own way. the choice is to move forward. drive through. thanks to you, hope, bright

plans for the future. peace today is the achievement of defenders and defenders, all this is thanks to you. thanks to you, friends, this is my face. dmytro chistyakov is my guest today . olena kaleytan , a journalist from mariupol. brutal shelling by the russian army elena saw with her own eyes how putin's troops carried out an airstrike on the mariupol drama theater so that she would not end up in the occupation together with my son on foot. under enemy fire , i fled from my native city

, which was already besieged, after that, a family with settlers. because you know, if a year of war has passed there, if the tragedy of mariupol happened there, which is significant not only for mariupol, but for all of our ukraine, for the whole world, then time does not heal here like in other situations there, and we really need to talk about mariupol, and now you say 9 months in ivano-frankish there is a mariupol center that works, and how many thousands are there, probably yes, every year, thousands of people who came there were registered there , and at the moment there are a large number of mariupol residents registered in ukrainian cities, this is kyiv, there are almost 20,000 mariupol immigrants. and that is why we have two support centers for immigrants here in kyiv on the right bank of the dnieper and on the left bank, and the first such center was opened right there on the border of such a food where from mariupol on the ukrainian

border. at first it was the most populated place zaporizhzhia hosted a lot of our emigrants, but now everything has changed a little and kyiv already accepts the most. so i , the people of mariupol, have a project with all the ways of supporting our people of mariupol that we provide not only humanitarian aid with products or hygiene kits, but there are also consultations with a lawyer, a psychologist, our doctor , all kinds of support, who needs rehabilitation there , how about some things, and the most important thing is that this is a big mariupol family, that people come it seems to us that there is the first house in the world, because their usual first house remained in mariupol

, or there is nothing left at all, because hundreds and hundreds of houses that were there have already been demolished. i am ready to hug my colleagues, cry and rejoice together with our mariupol residents who come to us , that's why i started working in the center of mariupol, and here in kyiv , i work in the center of mariupol. because it inspires because you can you give some help to the people of mariupol to support them and it is really so important to me that rehabilitation is the work of a psychologist, of course it is a psychologist, but there is also rehabilitation in a certain sense of the word because many injured people of mariupol who were injured were injured while leaving the city there are all kinds of degrees of severity, some of them are light, there are contusions, there are many, there are 90% well, for sure there are some who need more

rehabilitation of such a complex degree , and we keep this list, of course, but psychological rehabilitation is really needed by everyone, but not everyone admits it, because everyone thinks that he has survived everything well anyway, not only there we organize some kind of humanitarian support, but this is also support thanks to all kinds of socialization events that we organize for children and families, which we have a lot of things there and master classes , visits to kyiv on excursions and all kinds of creative sports there, because our mariupol people swim and play there, there is a men’s and children’s football team, there is tennis, and a lot of this is organized by the people of mariupol for mariupol people, because the tennis school exists thanks to the fact that our mariupol moved to kyiv and revived their school and attracted , of course, many mariupol children and those of our children who were engaged in professional water polo swimming. by

the way, before the war, we did not have time to open the newly reconstructed swimming in the neptune pool is very modern . that's how powerful our water polo team was, and they continue their classes here in kyiv. and everything else there, sports, creativity, we all support it , because we want to return to mariupol powerful and with no less professional such growth that we can achieve, you mariupolians still find time and strength to go to various rallies, in particular, which was before the day of the city when they went, what were the messages then, well, then was such an important period, although in the life of mariupol, all periods now, sensual and painful are important for us. this was the period when they organized a referendum to vote for what kind of mariupol people there. what remained there, we understand what remained there were those who did not want to go there to ukraine. so they

had to vote for what kind of mariupol they are want to see that's why we mariupol people here, when the russian orcs left this occupied mariupol, we wanted to express our position here that we are for ukrainian mariupol, that we are for mariupol, which should be for the occupied and which should be ukrainian, that's why such peaceful actions took place in our cities and many local people came out to support us, because we see a very strong support for mariupol, especially ukrainian mariupol, which during the last 8 years of war , which has been there since 2014, has taken such certain powerful steps towards the ukrainian sea itself, if on at the beginning of the 14th there was the fate of a certain pro-russian population that was so inclined, it was large already after 8 years it was different, the city was completely different and not only due to the fact that vyshyvankas were worn there or there

were some parades of vyshyvankas, it was in the brains that a new idea and a new vision was created of our city and its prospects because we ourselves were an outpost of the war there in ukraine in the donbass and were an example of how a ukrainian city is reborn as what it can be with the support of the strategy there and the idea of ​​modern such steps eight years of war you had really become so european, a lot of things were arranged and i know that with the closest hands they could have opened it there, but the russians destroyed everything. and you say that there were people left there who did not want to go to ukraine. are there only the so-called zhduns left, many people who could not make it, because many people have er family, in which there are er invalids and sick people who cannot be transported and therefore of course you cannot leave your relatives and

there are many shares pro-ukrainian because we are brothers, inscriptions about ukrainian appear as they sing the national anthem of ukraine in our squares, a teahouse among the population that there are many russian-minded people left there, and propaganda works very well there, because even those who managed to visit mariupol there, then return back to ukraine they told me that russian propaganda is very brainwashing. they are not so tuned in to the news that they hear. it has already been there for the months that this particular russian television was there. they don't know anything else. they know how to analyze, they no longer know how to compare any news and information, they believe it because they are told only from one source. well, of course, there are many pro-russian people. and there are also ukrainian ones who oppose us, and we very much believe that when we return to mariupol, we will be able

to adjust everything so that he was already 100% ukrainian. and i think that it will no longer be so clear that everything will be clear . it is difficult for them to work like this for the underground, these partisans, and i know that a lot of them have already paid, they are somewhere in the dungeons it is very difficult, that is why at the beginning we believed that mariupol would be liberated, and there were a couple of three types, everything would be fine again, everything would be a child or everything would be fine, we were very sure, but later, when i understood that all the fighting was taking place in the center of the city where we lived then i had to leave, then i understood that i am a deputy, he says that i am a journalist, that i am the editor-in-chief and everything else, the head of the regional union, this basement lights up for me from the very first time, as soon as someone meets me there, that they

will contact you in order to cooperate, you the editor-in-chief of a powerful newspaper, as soon as we saw that there was already a battle going on near our house, we understood that we had to wait for some kind of transport, a bus, because i didn't have a car, so i bombed there in the yard. what time did we have to wait for some kind of opportunity to leave ? went out of the city on foot with my son and a cat, and ending the topic of zhdunov, yes, this russian world, this is the route of the russian dictator to the city at night, because i think he was afraid of the underground, too, that they would do something, ah, and he already established it, he said about this, andryushchenko, that these people who met him are dressed-up artists from russia, they are really residents of mariupol , just in your opinion, why , how can a person whose apartment was bombed by the russian federation

thank a person who killed tens of thousands of citizens for building them these cardboard houses? also the work of russian propaganda. i think, well, i am very much believed that this was the original of putin coming to mariupol . it seems to me that he would not have dared to do such a thing , but well, this visit, first of all, for myself, i assess it as the importance of mariupol for him that in it will be difficult for us to take mariupol, but i am sure that we will do it, we will win, we will buy our city. well, and secondly, we can see how russian propaganda works, that even if it is disguised as such artists. they were there when we had 300 communal buses, then they launched one communal bus and we are there in the mariupol chats that we want or don't want one more, we are monitoring what is happening there and what is in their thoughts and we

saw how happy they were there is one a bus that goes there once an hour . well, i don't know how it turns around so that people stop appreciating what they had, or they say that they have cheap gas there , cheap utilities, and in general , they didn't pay them for a while. what do they have in the shops and what opportunities do they have and what is the infrastructure in general with the city , somehow it is not so important, well, that is, some values ​​there, they turned over and returned, and that is why i do not know how it is possible to thank when everything was taken from you, your life was taken away your dreams they took away all your ideas about your future there and settled somewhere there. well, in general, you know that among our acquaintances, well, practically no one got an apartment in this little house on

the nevsky , yes, as they say there. i don't know why people there buy in order to get an apartment faster or they really give it to those who cooperate a lot with the occupying authorities . well, you see, we already see that there are really simple people from mariupol who have lost everything. there are too few of them or none at all, that is, they built their own for their own and now they are proud of that. that is, they build and build there, and i believe that they will not have enough of such a resource, because how many houses have been destroyed, how many have been demolished , what have been converted into construction materials , yes, what are the remains of people, what are there died and from this build everything new there, roads there everything else well, i can’t imagine myself, of course, what kind of cynicism is there in this construction in general well, nothing

seems to happen in the 41st year, hitler also came to mariupol, we know what his history is it's over, we just have to wait, let's come back on february 24, you said that you thought that 2-3 days and mariupol, like in the 14th year, then it seems that he was released in two or three days , yes, because i'm not mistaken, and you even said in the interview i know that the trains to kyiv were half-empty. that no one wanted to go. so we didn't believe it, because i also woke up on the 24th because the phone was there from messages. the war started and we were sure that everything was over it will be good. we know that when there are some shocks there, we need to make certain stocks there, so we went to one supermarket and another made stocks for the cats there, they collected 12 kilograms of food there, so that for a few weeks there, everything

was fine with us there, and not only a few. that's what they did there well, then we realized that it needed to be done and we did everything correctly , but hmm, we were sure that everything would be fine in 2-3 days, because mariupol was a city where all the law enforcement agencies that were here were concentrated and the regional sbu and the regional prosecutor's office and the regional police, well, all the security forces were with us, but you see, this is what happened. yes, we did not have the opportunity to do such things against the forces that were advancing on mariupol, although we see our example growing that our boys did not defend mariupol to the last because in they had enough strength, we are proud of our heroes, there were ideas that little

by little we would be ukrainian again because i was making a newspaper for myself on friday that we were going to publish a print there on thursday and everything else and i was not going to stop publishing this work there that is, they were 100% sure. and how did the city live in the first days? and when you realized that, well, probably nothing would end in two or three days, well , it was already worrying at the end of the 24th, because everyone ran to the shops and heard the first explosions already there , heard the first reports about the damaged houses, everything- anyway, first of all, there were no people injured yet, that's why our school was set on fire. we hit it under such an explosion, and there were other private houses and somewhere . at the end of february, we understood that the whole situation

was somehow getting more complicated with each passing day. in the afternoon and at the beginning of march , we understood that we had to leave and get out, that we could see some kind of light . there, on the first of the second, the connection began to disappear, the light in the center on the left bank, that the first one was hit there, the connection , the light and everything else, here it disappeared in february, there it disappeared for us there, on the first of the second of march , only we began to be left with these benefits of civilization. and then when the people were left already without communication, then we went to the drama theater to communicate who was trying to leave what was there, as we saw that in the first days of march it is not possible to leave because they are already shelling at russian checkpoints, not ukrainian ones

, they are shelling people who are leaving and there are dead people there they didn't risk it, and the villages near mariupol , i know, were shelled in the first days of the sortana. that's how the russians got drunk, they opened the corridors to themselves in general, that is, they brought people to themselves. side there is new azov and hornog rostov, of course you could leave if you wanted to, they took her out there, so they took her out. well, then they didn’t take her out much, they didn’t take her out very much, and they don’t ask about children too much , because we have many acquaintances there who used to go there to visit their houses, it’s also such a population increase on the outskirts of mariupol well, many people warned from those cities where they were shelled and warned there closer to the center, well, in general, the whole of march . we saw such a migration of mariupol residents to

move from the districts to fall shelling of safer places in mariupol, and there was also such communication and such communication that mobile communication was interfered with , and it was precisely such direct communication with people who came and told what happened there. well, first of all , a family came there in the first days of march we have the 17th such a microdistrict, there is a car with his head tied there , there is a car without glass, there is no windshield, there is no when there is covered with earth, which well, he told me that there , shells flew into the room next door , exploded, and they, well, just by some kind of miracles they ended up in the next room and only fragments flew there that they only suffered a little bit that well they survived just a miracle something very similar happened and they quickly collected things there everything is covered in

blood in the ground there and all that came and settled there at the grandmother well, and then many, many people came to visit their relatives in the city center. well, in general, we thought that the city center would be left because it was so beautiful , it was reconstructed to such an extent that we were proud of our center. well, we thought that, well, why harm them like that? then to rebuild that the center will definitely be intact, but we saw it. we saw it from the window there on the fourth floor, where we lived. how the war is going on in the neighborhood, how other neighborhoods are being shelled , fires, smoke there and everything else, we saw all this in the apartment , yes, i tried to live. the center has not yet fired at everything. while everything was intact here, of course, we did not go around to look, well

, the basement was like a basement, that it was filled up like an ordinary house , all the boards were there. dirt and all other well, that's why we didn't hurry to the basement because there was a lot of dust, but as soon as the war got closer to the center, more and more neighbors and we also went down to the basement , although i tried not to go there until the last. of course, it's more comfortable at home, but at home - it was getting cold, it was cold. yes, somewhere after march 10, there were already such blows in the center that our windows were already blown out . there was no roof, and of course, at home , if we got there, we took food to cook for we are on the fires the stoves went out to cook somewhere on march 7, so we turned off the gas for 6 of us, this was the last thing we had left from such a comfortable gas

, so they turned off the gas and then we went to the stoves and on march 8, we finally all cooked on all the stoves, so we already went down to the basement more often after the tenth somewhere, you say that your house has no roof. that is, you continued to live in the apartment, but there was no roof on it. it was five floors, that's right . well , four. that is, we lived on the last floor. in march i don't remember mariupol at all, we're so close to the sea, we're always always when the climate is so warm, we're used to it being so much sunnier and everything else and here it was frosty up to 10 degrees and it was very so it's unusual for us and in the apartment, of course, when there were no windows, there was no roof, then the apartment already had a minus. well, i see the video, your son, yes

, he shot the video when there is no one already on the third floor. i see that our house has collapsed there, i say go see what's on the roof i say take the keys to open this attic. he got up says mom, the keys are not needed, because everything is there and there is no roof. well, that is, he rented from me, well done, he is so optimistic, you can see him commenting on everything. and here is our roof , what was there and is no longer there, it seems, it can build itself there overnight, everything else well, it all happened very quickly that i had time to realize it there and for myself there somehow lost that there when there was already a decision, even though the alices were gathered in the basement , we had them standing there. we go on foot, nothing else

we are waiting well, i know, i cried, but because i imagined that the whole life that i wanted there , to which i was adapted, that everything was usually fixed, that's all, we close this page and start a new, new, clean page, so that we have to start life anew but before that, you went to the drama theater, that's right, we also hid and saved ourselves there. how did it happen? why weren't you there when the rocket arrived? you went somewhere, we're more in our basement, but for me as a journalist , of course. it was interesting how everything was set up there. how do people feel there and what is there like we went there several times once i went around everything there we went down to the basement there were really a lot of people there there was not a single millimeter of free space because everyone was sitting very tightly there because everyone understood that the basement - this is exactly the premises of such a bomb shelter. but then we saw that

all the floors of the drama theater were full of people , both on the first and second floors and in the apartment and in the auditorium itself, well, everywhere. well, we see that the entire auditorium became exactly the place where a very many people although everyone else the ceilings were also collapsing there . recently, in our center, we saw a family that was about to leave mariupol, and they told us what and how they experienced that they were also