[000:00:00;00] er, deputies who er tell that they were always for ukraine, but there were a lot of deputies who felt that they were constantly in medvedchuk's team regarding nestor shufrych, here again the question is quite rhetorical, because nestor shufrych does not renounce from medvedchuk, and as you remember, he did not vote for depriving medvedchuk of even the mandate of a deputy of the verkhovna rada. and in general, the reincarnation of dmytro tabachnyk . what can the p-victorivna testify about? well, they haven't pulled it out yet. i don't even know who who else can be pulled out of that old cage of people who are already here? they were on political pensions even in ukraine for a long time

, already during the existence of psg. you will work as a deputy, so the fact is that this is a very natural thing. there is definitely not enough of them. now there are people who know all the ins and outs of ukraine. moreover, i am convinced that by this time, not all collaborators from the authorities have been purged by the security services of ukraine. periodically to us informs about the fact that some criminal cases have been opened. are there any enforcement rights ? but nevertheless, it seems to me that there is a complete purge of the ukrainian authorities from those people who have always sympathized with russia, who have always had this russian agenda in themselves. leaders who have always shared the views of the so-called russian world, there are quite a lot

of them, viktor, one more topic yesterday, the construction of the akuyu nuclear power plant was very celebrated in turkey, let us remind you that this facility will actually function on russian nuclear fuel and erdogan together with putin held such a video conference extensively eh, while we are actually putting pressure on the world to introduce new, more powerful sanctions, we are talking about the need for sanctions against rosatom, in particular, we see how the russian federation continues to provide - continues to provide its own nuclear energy services to other countries as well eh how important is yesterday's meeting there? putin once again emphasized the possibility and expediency of launching such a hub in turkey , through which it will be possible to pump russian gas to third countries. what do you think? in general, this event was yesterday and erdoğan's conversation with putin, well, let's start with the fact that

turkey still has a large percentage of russian supporters, and accordingly, i perceive this event primarily as a pre-election trick of erdoğan's, it's a month before the election , not a month, this 14 in may, they have elections, that is, in less than a month, hmm, such events, of course, first of all, take place in order to once again accumulate the electorate that ordukhan has . now it's a 50/50 situation, what will remain erdoğan is in power or not and it will also depend on what course turkey will take, since the opponent was ruled by him, he still wants to focus on internal

issues and he is not so close to putin. like erdogan, i think that the latest event shows that turkey will continue to balance, will erdoğan remain or not will erdoğan remain in power here , i do not foresee any sharp changes in sentiment, i will repeat myself once more considering that turkish turkish society is quite good treats russian despite the war, despite being shot down, do you remember the russian plane in 2015, all the same, russian money, russian investments, russian tourists have done a great deal for turkey, that's why turkey is not the right country that we should

look at and how about such a fierce is a supporter of the ideas of ukraine, mr. viktor, and regarding the position of china, we did not have time to discuss the consequences of the telephone conversation in this country, but zelenskyi throws out the appointment of this special representative with a surname that is a little strange for the ukrainian language. the issue of the war is ours already today it became known that the minister of defense of the aggressor country serhiy shoiku met with the head of the minister of the ministry of defense of china and his name is shanfu on sunday there is india there is a meeting of the ministers of defense of the country honesty in shanghai so that the shanghai cooperation organization has such an organization together they had an unscheduled meeting with india and china and this was reported by ria novosti now. maybe we will even show a video, they are sitting there denying

what this shows, what kind of game are the chinese playing stories, here is the video, please make it completely fresh, i will repeat myself. i think that this topic may have been discussed with you that the task of russia is to draw china directly freely from ukraine , and for russia, it is very obvious that the goal is to start putting certain types of weaponry for russia, which is lacking. at the same time, china continues that policy and continues to implement its strategy, which was announced during his entry into the third term, and this policy is about this strategy , in fact, for many years, it is about what exists

the polar world, where there is china and the united states of america, and accordingly, in this configuration, they will do everything in order for this track to be implemented, therefore, even a telephone conversation with zelenskyi, it was exactly in this track. i understand from the rhetoric that i read in the chinese media, that is, it all boils down to the fact that china must become a huge superpower that will oppose the united states of america. everything obeys only this one trick, look mr. viktor, the kremlin is open to conversation in zelensky, sisinpinya, there, what are there, masha maria zakharova thank you. maria zakharova was generally satisfied and noted that there are many such threads that basically

combine the chinese and russian positions , and piskov said yesterday that in principle they look so satisfied and this does not coincide with what you think i follow your social networks in this regard, you just emphasize that china is playing only its own card, as it always moves within the framework of its strategy. well , it also curtseys to the united states , showing its readiness to meet with izipin and joabaina why do you think otherwise, because the russians look quite satisfied, you know, i have recently stopped analyzing the emotions of the russians because it is completely meaningless, they say on black that it is always white and not white black, they can play a good game with a bad game and vice versa as for e

- and again returning to china for china in a tactical plan . of course, i would like the war to stop not because of the victory of ukraine. well, maybe at the current stage they stopped because it is now important for china, first of all, to increase its economic capabilities for two and a half years or almost three years, the covid in china now does not feel quite confident economically and even when they talk about the fact that he will start a war with i do not believe it now, that is, i think that this is a postponed issue until china can e to strengthen economically, that's why china sent its special representatives to travel to european countries and negotiate contracts, that's why china hosted european leaders and they talked

primarily about the economy for a ride now the question seems to me to be number one, but strategically this question coincides with what we talked about earlier, that is , first to strengthen and then really build this axis that will mark the bipolar world. well , let's say a few more words about hungary. dismissed, presumably because of aid to ukraine e-e quotes nv his name is lieutenant general romulush rusin sandy he was urgently dismissed by the president of ukraine katalinovak the decision was published on the official e-portal rusinsendiy was appointed commander of the hungarian army in the 21st year, before that he worked in the ministry of defense . according to the national media, his dismissal came as a surprise. well, the hungarian media speculates that the dismissal may be connected with today's publication

of yesterday's video. that is, it was yesterday in the information was on which french helicopters flying over to ukraine take off at the dior airfield, this is a republic, the republic of hungary. do you think there are really different positions in hungary regarding the provision or provision of weapons of ukraine, or at least the transit of weapons through hungary to ukraine, and one of the parties there is trying. thus, i am asking yehor to strengthen his position due to the dismissal. i cannot comment on anything here, because i did not deal with hungary this week, and i have nothing to add in this case. i read that the president of serbia got to the hospital there. he got sick, just like the president of turkey . it's a strange coincidence that in principle russia's allies get to the hospital , at least the heads of countries in europe and also

something in asia, which is close to us viktor garazd then what will be done next in your opinion, what will be the policy of e.e. russia and the kremlin regarding the ukrainian issue, meaning the holding of these so-called elections in the occupied territories of these e-deputies or senators, whom they will elect there, they will also elect the local vla well, this will definitely lead there to an even greater aggravation as a confrontation with european structures and regarding the legitimacy of the russian authorities themselves, there will be questions of their lower house of parliament, the state duma of the federation council, whether the russians in principle do not care regarding the legitimacy of their parliamentary structures, i ask that this was actually held when the first elections were held in crimea, and in fact, many countries declared their illegitimacy , but even the russian opposition sanctified these elections at that time, because they participated in these elections, and that is why there

are a question for russian liberal politicians who say one thing in practice do something else positive. i think that russia still has a strategy to strengthen its position as much as possible now in those territories where they entered they say that in some conversations the russians in the middle chain of command say that it is necessary to demand from the ukrainians that they agree to at least the demarcation line that exists now and to start negotiations, is russia even ready for negotiations now? i don't know. it seems to me that in principle it is will not sit down and agree on anything, that is, is this line there present or future . it will only be an irritant for them, because the main goal of russia is, after all, the capture

of kyiv and the capture of all of ukraine in general, sir viktor, there is a new time for you to talk. finally, i wanted to discuss with you one topic with good russians and the russian opposition . well, at least you attend their meetings there in exile, the so-called russian exiles, in particular , in riga, extremism and terrorism are being sewn to oleksiy navalny, two things, and there he shines until 30 years, it is obvious that he will spend the rest of his life in a russian prison, if this term is confirmed in court, it is not a term. and this accusation, should we follow this story now, or does it have any significance for ukraine what is the significance of the story of navalnoj in prison? new court terms , please. let me start with the fact that the russian so-called liberal opposition is not a single whole. there are a lot of directions of the group and divisions of this opposition, they are constantly

competing with each other now . they are competing for who will represent the interests of those who have left the european parliament in the structures in brussels and who will actually hang this medal on themselves that they are the only one against all of russia through there, quite interesting processes are taking place, i for they really are i'm watching, i'm interested to see what's going on with them. well, let's say these discussions, discussions, when they divide the skin, you see an unkilled bear and pretend that when putin is gone, they will come to power. that's why these are such interesting observations, they are necessary for ukraine from the point of view of that it is necessary to understand the course of thought not only of the russian government

. and there is a russian opposition that claims this power, so far i do not have such even optimistic recipes for them as to how to win , moreover, judging by their actions, they this power will never get it thank you viktor viktor shlinchak, the chairman of the board of the institute of world politics was in touch with us and we remind you that today the russians attacked ukraine and in the official telegram channel of the ministry of defense of the country of dung they already managed to publish photos of the launch of the corresponding missiles i just did screenshot just so you can be sure that this is not just some kind of photoshop, this is real. the russian ministry of defense of the russian federation is posting and noting that today they hit everything. right on target, friends if we can show it to people because it's true yeah, that's what it looks like right here

they're happy today at 8:56 that they killed a bunch of people sorry in uman there are children among them and their eyes are visible only in civilian objects in apartment buildings well we go on, we talk about important things, which also need to be followed up not only by war. as they say, the only war is also, uh, war. this is more subliminal. i would say that the fact is that the odious judge yevhen chief, let's find out something. forest as they say well, actually retired, retaining the right to all the preferences that ukrainian judges have , and some members of the supreme council of justice consider it terribly unfair, in particular, for the cyst i am now romana maselka, and according to the result of yesterday's meeting, the question of your resignation has been removed from consideration, since you are the rapporteur of his case and on plakhtiy was at another event and could not take part in this meeting, but the blog

obviously does not abandon its plans and will renew its attempts to contact us stepan berko - lawyer advocacy manager of the de jure foundation, stepan, congratulations, glory to ukraine. good morning. glory to heroes means glory to enemies , mr. stepan. what sums of life support are we talking about in this case? what kind of funding does he want? the right to an axis in the amount of a three-month judge's remuneration well , and then every month they receive lifelong maintenance , which is close to 80% of the salary they had, well, that is, these are significant amounts because uh the judge's remuneration is quite high even in such a court, which was attended by an administrative court. and i will remind you of an ordinary

local court, it's just a mask in their case , and this court had very serious powers. and that's exactly why it became infamous, and because of that, it became so is an influence in the judiciary and remains until the age , we do not leave them with the status of a judge, so a certain immunity remains. other courts even in the supreme council of justice there are disciplinary complaints that are based on those facts that were publicly announced and on those facts that are strongly based on the decisions they made and the law says that if there is a disciplinary complaint against a judge and in

principle it is possible to consider it with the first one and then consider the issue of resignation, unfortunately, unfortunately, we have a situation where the members of the supreme council of justice are not all, here is roman veselko , whom you quoted, he does not want to take such a position, but the majority of members of the supreme council of justice believe that the terms of consideration of this pictures of sectoral complaints, in particular, regarding the judge, when did they fall asleep, because the law requires considering disciplinary complaints and bringing the judge to disciplinary responsibility within a certain period of time from the moment when the memory was committed, we did not have disciplinary proceedings for one and a half years. that is , the council of justice could not bring the judge to liability, but the law is written in such a way that it can be interpreted that this period stops from the moment when the complaint was filed with you, every time you write about education, it is the same for

by analogy, when a person wants to sue someone, to challenge someone's actions in court, he or she has a time limit from a long time ago or approaching , if you managed to file a lawsuit, then any time limits stop. of justice, they do not agree with this position and believe that they have no reason to consider disciplinary complaints, etc. well, let's actually sharpen the consideration of the issue of the resignation of stepan's passport. don't write out our colleagues that somewhere around 100,000 will be hryvnias, yevgeny, what does he call himself, a catch for life, a fight for a month, despite the fact that in our country, the minimum pension seems to be 3,300, now or three, three, well , close, no, i’m not lying, 2,300 i apologize for three, mr. stepan but yevgeny olovy is only 51 years old, that is, he will immediately keep this money at the age of 51. he retires with a hundred thousand every month. yes, i understood correctly. well , he is not retiring. he is

retiring. the fact is that the judges they receive the right to resign if they have worked as a judge for more than 15 years. if i'm not mistaken, that is, if they have been performing a spell for a considerable time . this is a common mechanism that exists in all democratic systems . justice that after they leave this position they will still have some support from the state and they can feel free in this position not to worry about their life after they leave the position stimulates how much to praise without extraneousness and justice is more important. that is why this mechanism exists and it really affects some people . for some reason, a person with such a reputation would not have been held in any

court for a long time. retires a year and then receives 100,000, receives a lifetime allowance, while 30% of pensioners receive 2-300 pensions per month . well, where is 2,300 and where is 100? well, absolutely right . the point is that the judge or what not only disciplinary complaints in the supreme council of justice he is also accused in a criminal case that is connected with the seizure of power and with his boss the former head of oskom e-e and in fact even if he is he will resign his let your judge go he gets all these his payments can then be revoked from his resignation when the verdict becomes final , but that means he will lose the status of a judge. he has lost his lifelong allowance, but he will no longer return the sums he will receive, which

will be credited to them at this time in fact the question is actually about these sums. well, this decision is also still symbolic, because we understand what role he played in your pre-trial plan until recently. actually, i think that for many people in society, this is such a litmus test because it is obvious that these judges there is no justice, they no longer do it, but it is definitely not judges who have to retire, and resignation is, in fact, such a state honorary, honorary protection, an honorary pension for those people who served or even in the justice system , justice, the law, and that is what a judge is not gablo and his classmates, thank you, stepan, thank you for your work. stepan berko - lawyer, advocacy manager of the de jure foundation was in touch with us, and this is how we finish our today's five hours, we were with you yehor

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