[000:00:00;00] if china immediately put this position to the ukrainian president, i think that it will not work because no ukrainian society , not in general, i think that ukraine, as a country, as a nation, it is like that , it will not forgive, that is what will not be a counteroffensive. i think that there will be a certain military event, and after that, i think that it is china that has become involved in the role of such an intermediary because it has the most important influence on russia, and it can also introduce certain economic benefits to offer, precisely from the point of view of the market recovery in onedulta-road ie them one way certain hmm infrastructure investments, well, this is still at the level of hypotheses, because the chinese did not say specifically, although only after the conversation volodymyr zelenskyi, he emphasized that this is how we were trading trading partners, and now this status has ended up a little and we hope that

then we will renew these ties, although , of course, for china, these trade turnovers there are minimal for him, for him, after all , the geographical position of ukraine is more important, that is, for him, it is still important that ukraine is still in in the end, after 10 years, it still joined that belt of this path, mr. peter. and why the hell, putin understands this , because it can be such an eastern policy refined by diplomacy, he understands that putin is leading russia into the abyss, and let him sit for a few more years and finally prove russia into the final abyss and russia will become so dependent, unconditionally dependent on beijing that it is necessary for putin to continue to remain there. because the putin of 2005 is the outgoing putin, he was on the way

to the top, he is a competitor of china, and well, that’s how i imagine it, and today’s putin is nobody, for sure in six years, he will be completely nobody, er, yes, that is, here is the question of what , er, it is putin, he can do so from the point of view of china, from the point of view of china he can give certain grants to china if we are talking about such a moment as acute therapy, that is, here it is what he says there is bay to be and yes, that is, to stand shoulder to shoulder if it is meant to balance the influence of the united states of america, because if there is no putin, then there will be no taiwan, because in order for taiwan to exist, china needs the nuclear power of russia because here they are already they look at how they look at the russian war in ukraine and they understand that , for example, the west could not fully enter into a war against russia and precisely because of that there is nuclear deterrence and thus if russia provides

certain nuclear guarantees to china thus the united states of america or other countries they won't be able to interfere with china's attempt to annex taiwan. well, we don't know how it will be peacefully, by force, whether there will be an invasion and so on. first of all, secondly, it's resources, again, because we see that in general, uh, here's this world world position the leadership of the western states is primarily a maritime democracy or an island democracy. well, we will now say from the point of view of who a-a na kinder. that is, it is his geopolitics, this is the theory of the chartering of maritime states and so on . these are sea lines. that is, these are lines of sea communications, and if there is an escalation between china and america, then china risks losing these sea routes for the delivery of energy and food, which is very important for it.

he is now expanding these continental food import routes, and here again the resources of russia are very beneficial to him. moreover, russia is now in such a position that it has to sell to china and, er, protect contracts where it has to sell to china at very low prices, this is secondly, resources, and thirdly , we can see that china is still suffering from what he does not have. this is the status of even a regional leader. he wants to be a global leader. he has no true friends who would legitimize him. his leadership is such a top position and here comes putin who says yes , look, china is growing and he says very complimentary about china to china in an interview, precisely if we talk about china's leadership , they like it very much because he praises their e-e management model he praises their practice here er about there let's say democracy because because they both say we have their own unique models there in russia sovereign democracy in china if it is here well

they also call their model er also well on the good of the people and so on. such so we see that this is an ideological moment and that's why he needs putin because he likes putin very much, i think that we are with such states in general. states that have a history of very difficult relations, so because china still has ambitions in china . here in this land of the far east, this is the russian primorye of khabarovsk. russia hmm here during the soviet period and so on, that is, they have very big and competitive problems, because they perceive each other as competitors , but now, as hans morgenthau wrote that

in the case of global chaos, when there is no clear leader or hem of the stabilizer, then here these despotisms or let's say authoritarian regimes. they have a tendency to agree among themselves, and we now have exactly such a moment when these countries see their common interests in reaching an agreement despite the problems, because in then there are certain chances to get uh, well, first of all, it is again economic advantages, this is about what zbig nensky wrote in his time in his chess - in his time, such a global chess player, if the chinese are russia, together , all these are nightmares for the united states and therefore we see that now they are doing it and in this way what to do with the area of ​​the state and they need that is if they activate their roman so these are the countries that have to restrain the paintings that is why we see aux that is why we see such an increase in western

europe well and so on and so on it's so so so geopolitics, his strategy. unfortunately, i think it is bad for ukraine. it is bad in what way that we did not predict all these ways , all these options for the development of events and performances. we did not have an ambassador. it is very good news that now we will have an ambassador, not because it is some status and simply because we have let's say this , we will have the opportunity to maintain the dialogue at the highest level and it is possible to not - well, donetsk - to convey certain e-messages promptly there to the chinese leaders therefore, it is actually very important that such a step here it is took place thank you, sir. thank you. petro shevchenko, phd student analyst at the department of international economics at the university of dzhilin, i will learn at the end of our conversation what integrity is without an accent. we congratulate

mr. gazu in the evening, dear gentlemen. good evening . so, health, let's start to understand why your government so radically banned the entry of vladimir putin to the republic of moldova. it happened at all and what consequences could it have, eh, this is a slight exaggeration, it’s just a list of people who are welcome, which includes vladimir putin, eh, well, he would fly to chisinau like russia and we wouldn’t let him go. and so he just knows what he is they won't accept it here, that's the truth , everything remains an open question, how to get moldova from the kremlin, er, through the airspace of ukraine or the airspace of nato

, it's somehow difficult. a citizen of moldova is not even a kak deputy, as a citizen of moldova, i state that the nato european union has taken us under possible close protection, taking into account the fact that we are not a member of the past and in this situation , the leadership of the republic of moldova is simply obliged to clearly explain its position in relation to the russian federation federation of putin's regime and this is the case when a week ago or 10 days ago , the president of tatarstan asked to fly to chisinau in order to participate in the election campaign from the new candidates of the gogun autonomous region, and he demonstrates that

russia didn't learn anything in 2015. the russian federation conducted a completely unbridled aggressive campaign in the gogol autonomous region in favor of its ego agent iryna glag , and all the candidates in the gogol autonomous region, as we believe, were pro-russian, but they were sitting in disgrace because the cream pointed a finger at the ring she now, this trick was not successful based on two factors, the first one was taken into account, kishinev did not let rais go. they met rais at the chisinau airport, they introduced themselves as completely unlikable and, accordingly, singular

, one of them was declared a person on the sidelines, yes, there is such a light, delicate moment in the gogol autonomous region. by itself well, let's see how this performance will end on april 30. when the first round of presidential elections will be held in the toy autonomy, but anyway, i want to return to the beginning of our conversation, support for the european union, nato ukraine in romania is so unprecedented that now the leadership of chisinau can clearly indicate its position, including pointing out to vladimir putin that it's not that no one is waiting for his ego in chisinau, but that he simply won't be let in if you look at us. the door after your last words, but i left so that you could clarify the approach. the european union, nato, will never support a government against

which the people. we will go to europe together with him or drag him to europe or invite him to europe, and i understand correctly that in the last few years it is literally a very short period when this is a permanent balancing act of moldova, here comes a slightly pro-russian president, then about european сейчас this is the end of the story and the majority of the population of moldova says no, we are for ukraine, for europe , for nato and against russia, and it is possible for them to be the absolute majority, but still the majority . please tell me what the majority is. ignore the fact that well, this is a long story about how the republic of moldova came into being, we will not touch on it, but for 10 years the citizens of moldova

were under the influence of russian propaganda and this legacy is felt today in 2003, one journalist analyzed the results of a public opinion poll and wrote the entire article under the following heading, voronin loves old , poor , illiterate ukrainian women. this is stratification. it's easy but the old ones are poor and illiterate by inertia even eh support the strong hand of putin and support the cliché of russian propaganda something of the society as a whole so there are two moments first a-a december 20, the 20th year , november 15, the kremlin was destroyed igor dadon suffered

a crushing defeat in the competition with me myself and when i speak the second moment, er, igor dadon demonstrated not only his competence but his proximity, so as not to be called another way, he asked before the second round of the presidential elections to declare that the moldavian diaspora lives in a different world. and with that, he saw the moldavian diaspora and all their relatives in moldova who unanimously voted against the game of dona and my shanta, and probably only to remind me that, er, some vladimir putin even congratulated my grigorievna on being elected president. this is so exotic, and the following year in the xxi year, the solidarity party received a majority in the parliament, this is not a constitutional majority, but a comfortable enough 63 mandates out of 100, and that's it

two rounds of voting for my sandu from behind the party passed this unequivocal vote for the european perspective of the republic of moldova when the european union saw that in chisinau there is someone to talk to. this is not igor dadon , who, uh, went only to moscow. well, he made his brother a dollar millionaire did not achieve anything more, yes, and when the european union saw how the moldovan society as a whole was civilized and reacted to the problem of refugees from ukraine, yes, in general, when the european union realized that it was wrong when he refused to see the essence of oppression in europe, and in europe it was quite comfortable, and schröder's successors felt that a-and then

there was a change in relation to moldova, this clear constructive dialogue and clear interaction with the aim of helping moldova to complete its homework appeared according to european integration, this is a difficult task because the legacy of the past , including the legacy of the shameful phase of the captured state, they disappear in one piece only now, literally today, for example saw in the judge's court on wednesday signs that there is a healthy sphere that does not want to be the heirs of the captured state, they really want the necessary property to be independent and serve the law.

this political forum of the european union should take place in moldova, this indicates that on the one hand the european union takes us under its close protection , even taking into account the fact that we are not in favor of joining nato and on the other hand the european union has a partner in the republic of moldova whom they trust, and the european union will repeatedly repeat the mistakes of the past. when to make bets, including on coordinated politicians who only jungled about european slogans but made noise to steal a billion dollars from the country's banking system from compromising the idea of ​​european integration . this was 60 -th 14th hour and проч вы за all the same. if we talk about what the political struggle looks like today and how it is influenced by russia, the khans have already

told me, and in moldova itself we can talk about the fact that russia continues on its own, the situation in moldova is quite specific, all the same, the masters are the power. yes, the parties are correct , and on the other hand, they tell us that we have an opposition, and when they tell me that we have a position in moldova, including in the parliament , i ask the opposition to clarify applied. why do we have to unfortunately establish that the so-called moldovan position is, in general, opposition to the idea of ​​statehood , which it is trying to implement according to models from the kremlin? yes, we have about the european outside parliamentary parties, but they are parliamentary parties to me, they may in general criticize us for some steps, but they support the ideas of the european integration of moldova. and the parliamentary so-called position is, if they resort to it in diplomatic terms

, it is the fifth column of the kremlin regime that is trying to destabilize the situation in moldova and over the current authorities in order to create a source of tension behind the back of ukraine. it is accepted that transnistria is somehow possible to solve this question in general if it assumes a good movement forward , that is , to europe. it is a complicated construction, you know, when vitaly said without transnistria, the question arises

, will they follow to clarify the concept because the so-called transnistria is not 100%, it is 1000% dependent on the entire republic of moldova the economic agents of the left bank are registered in chisinau as economic agents of the republic of moldova, and there is economic activity based on the documents of the republic of moldova, customs documents, certificates of compliance . more than that, the so-called russian outpost is integrated into the european union market. moreover, after april 28, 2014 , citizens of moldova with biometric passports received a visa-free regime in the schengen zone the people of its bank rushed to get moldovan citizenship, i want to draw your attention to the fact that

after february 24 last year, the flow of people from the left bank who want to get moldovan citizenship on the left bank increased threefold . i know that the embassy in bulgaria in chisinau quietly distributes passports of citizens of the european union there, and someone vitaly krasnoselskiy, the so-called leader of transnistria, and he received the ukrainian citizenship already after the annexation of crimea and even by a confirmed rumor he even bought several apartments in odessa hoping for a peaceful old age and here it turned out to be a bummer in the form of february 24 last year and his wife svetlana is actually a romanian citizen and it turns out that the president of transnistria of the russian outpost is sleeping with a nato agent

so, transnistria should be treated ironically with restraint. this is indeed an enclave that should be subjected to procedures , as we said back in 2004, where crimea is neonalized and demilitarized and sectoral. integration in the common space of the republic of moldova is not a process. let's say it is not a one-time process . at the beginning of our conversation, i mentioned the right bank , the left bank, the situation is even more complicated, but when the second round

of the presidential elections was held on november 15, 2020, and some people on the left banks either came or were brought to take part in the presidential elections 14.2 that is, people from the left bank voted for may sandu, that is, there is also an internal position that is suppressed by this bandit regime , but the transnistrian conflict is easier to solve on the basis of two fundamental considerations, the first there is no border with russia at all, which unfortunately is in georgia and ukraine and the second moment is not an internal conflict no no nothing it is necessary to liberate the power of this bandit regime, which does not seek to be involved in russian aggression against ukraine, but at the same time, of course, it is necessary to implement the process of demilitarization, this is already a separate

project that must be implemented in partnership with nato and ukraine, but repeat it all enough е prognosiruemye scenarii mir nye scenarii and er-er transnistrian conflict er-er can be aggressive in the context of the european integration of the republic of moldova and ukraine for how much in general do you think . now we can talk about the fact that russia she hopes for the victory of some of her political opponents in the upcoming presidential and parliamentary elections, and can we say that she is now placing a greater bet on the shor party than on the moldovan socialists, let's remember the things of long ago days. there was some president of the yuzhnaya network allegedly, then the press in russia was more open, i remember i

read that at least 60% of the billions of rubles sent to south ossetia ended up in the kremlin's kickback committees and after february 24 of last year, we learned about the alleged 5 billion dollars and the fifth fsb department, which was tried by the authorities , presenting pleasant scenarios and forecasts, so we will apply it to the republic of moldova. it is not difficult to say something . never used any person from abroad script script as a rule they were primitive designed for corrupt local politicians well, who knows the situation in the republic of moldova remembers

the famous video materials with remotes that he received a dodon for financing his party, so russia is simply trying to portray something out of inertia, but it has already lost, and at the same time, you correctly noted that on the one hand, russia wrote off ihor dadonosa after he brilliantly lost all that is possible and made a bet on shor, but we are ashamed of the situation, he was sentenced to 15 years, and on the basis of this decision, the republic of moldova rejected the request to israel for his extradition, and our

structures are learning to fight against the illegal financing, and still they made noise a couple of times , he intercepted quite appreciable sums of money, which were cash that went to the financing of titushek. participates in this election company in the gogol autonomous region . grigoriyuzun, who is competing with other moscow candidates, pushes his candidate in quotation marks. well, igor dadon wants him to in quotation marks, the candidate won and so that he could demonstrate to the feed that here i was able to transform kogusa autonomy into a bridgehead for the fight against yellow contagion yellow contagion - this is us voglovestnaya sandu but let's say this, i want to draw attention to the following

moment on december 23, 194, the parliament of moldova adopted law number 344 about persons, the legal status of gogol's autonomy, we will not have time to pay attention to a lot of incompetence , and there is a provision that the law can only be changed with 60 one vote, at least i want to draw attention to the fact that the party pass 63 votes and there is such a saying if you cock a lot you can have a feather sway and that is the full stop thank you very much thank you too much member of parliament and we are vitalik portnikov mykola veryn all the best thank you for ee with you on the air all the best here we heard the voice of my sanda from heaven the voice of god can be heard

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