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[000:00:00;00] salt, is it moving away somewhere or is it becoming er less achievable no, we need to move on and use all possible er tools for this internal elections in the states i think just er and this resolution by the way shows that we have we have this a chance to fix these intermediate stages, and then when that time comes, there will simply be no other way out than to grant ukraine membership in nato . i understand correctly. look, there are two such turning points in this war in these 14.5 months and one of them is a lens signed by biden and a friend this resolution, which should be adopted, that is, the united states of america, we will speak like this. and he bookmarks who mr. ruslan said in the bookmarks. they didn't do that, so they bookmark some in order to be safe
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in order to if the leadership in the white house suddenly changes, then here are two options they continued to work, that is, the resolution continued to work for the victory of ukraine, and if there are any maneuvers on the part of our partners so that the lend-lease opens and after all the lend-lease ends the fate of this war so that the resolution works and nobody mechanism a little differently, these are the mutual fuses of the president’s congress, what is lend-lease if it is very simple, and the main military budgets , while the congress, that is, the budget that was allocated to us in march of the 22nd year, the new year, which was adopted at the beginning of this year, this is congress , the president simply congratulates everyone the signature is coming, we went to work, why was the letter accepted mid-term elections last year, the first initial forecasts gave 75% of the victory to the republicans , respectively, the biden administration understands that in this 75% there will be about 30% of transmist they
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understood that this 30% would be enough to make it impossible to adopt any new budgets for ukraine, one forest is the right of the presidential administration without agreement with the congress with committees and all others to single out appropriate new aid packages. out of mind, this resolution is a fuse for the congress against presidential condensation, which will destroy the mind, that is, in this there is a perfect balance of the american system, they understand that absolutely he, they understand that all living people and anything can happen, and therefore, for the allies, this is an indicator of how the americans treat the systematicity of the strategic assistance to ukraine, and for the internal situation in america, it is really an opportunity for this system to continue working . and this is what i was talking about when i commented on the resolution, it shows strategic characteristics which is not tied to an individual to a party even separates a state body as we saw as ford fox tour i i do not want to warn the audience
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if you thought that the international diplomats will give you the specifics right away. that's it. that's it. that's it. you're very wrong. you'll have to watch the broadcast again and reread and reinterpret what was said here. it's homework. it's really homework. thank you very much. we live in a time of such great changes. unfortunately including changes to the tragic volume once again we offer our condolences to all those who lost their loved ones in today's night rocket attacks and yesterday's in mykolaiv. may the memory of all the victims be bright and the ukrainian state will surely take revenge, even if it's such a small consolation for all of us, we have clearly recorded that the path to nato, even if they will be hindered, but it is not reversible, the americans , as we heard, record it absolutely clearly for themselves and for partners, if it is recorded by the head of the family in the house, then probably
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after all, it will be an important story, we understand that ukraine's support for europe remains strategic, and next year is the year of many elections , we hope that nothing will change, and the state border of ukraine is the only goal for which we are working on. yes, it can. in short, it can enter a little later, but the state border must be returned. this is all for the sake of which so many suffered and died. and yes, there are many regions that play their own little games , and here it is important for us that these little games do not interfere on our street path take care of yourself and ukraine thank you for being with us thank you ukrainian weapons of victory from the first days of the invasion took the fight with dignity this is the legendary ghost of kyiv on our mig-29 covered the sky this is our foot first entered the battle on
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they destroyed their cities, took away their relatives, stole their childhood, and then forcibly took ukrainian children to the aggressor country, they were sure of their own impunity, but the international criminal court in gaza issued a warrant for the arrest of the dictator, by whose order they deported our children, and this is only the beginning of a historic decision that will begin historical responsibility. i am grateful to everyone in the world who helps us fight for justice. all those guilty of gilding against ukraine will be punished. the armed forces needs specialists of all professions. in the case of receiving a summons, you should know the following: a summons can be served by any authorized person in any place that
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is not prohibited by the legislation of ukraine . demonic training, a military fact, go through combat coordination with experienced comrades or instructors of a military school abroad, fear will not make you free only victory 1+1 continues the national telethon at this time we work in the format of a discussion platform night watch studios work for you maria vasilievna i am venglinsky and the topic of our broadcast today is propaganda brands sorry almost one and a half years of war but russia continues to promote its narratives by changing approaches concept strategy tactics, and it is worth
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talking about it, because war is both lost and won first in the heads of people, only later we see it on the actual battlefield or in signed agreements and talk about this topic we invited the acting head of the center for countering disinformation at the nsdc, andriy shapovalov. thank you for visiting . greetings. it's been a long time since you've been in the night watch studio . i hope the conversation will be interesting. let's start with the fact that not so long ago we had a petition about whether the government for example, to consider the possibility of banning such a popular social network as titok . actually, i would like to ask you the first question about this platform. we know that it is of chinese origin, that there are quite
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suspicious algorithms for collecting information, but with on the one hand, we obviously see the obvious advantages of this social network and, by the way, we collect a lot of aid there, even for the military, many volunteer initiatives take place through aunts, but on the other hand, there are also hidden pitfalls, what are the dangers of this social network, a little later i want to ask about telegram it's hard to say exactly what makes tik tok dangerous , but it works according to completely different algorithms, uh, according to its own algorithms, and the promotion of content, and it is built in such a way that it tries to guess what you it's interesting, and if other social networks promote content in the trends you're interested in, then tick tok on the third or fourth video. he 's trying to give you something new, and there's a huge danger here
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. uh, to see what you didn't want to see and uh , it seems that the guardian research was still there more than a year ago. and when they found out that 40 minutes after you registered in tik-tok and you will see a video about russian- the ukrainian war by all russians , that is, your aunt can take you away of your information bubble and plunge into the one that you don't want and don't even think of getting into and then an interesting story of getting into the tik-tok trend a-a the algorithm predicts that the video can fly into the rivers in the so-called recommendations a - not based on the history of your channel, but based on the amount of information that you put out, and in this case, there is a high probability
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that the trends will not be the leaders of public opinion, but some new bloggers or channels that are very generate a lot of content and in this case, russia very uh profitably took advantage of this defect of the algorithm, a huge number of their conditional trolls or fighters of the information front, they produce a huge amount of content, not always of good quality, and there is a high probability that one out of a thousand, one out of 500 will get into trends, and then there is the matter of technology, and we can see a-a such a-a
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-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e story is not inherent in social networks. 15,000 views 20,000 views 15 20 10 5 10 25 then a million and again 15:20-25 then again a million, that is, purely due to the number and the russians. in this way, a huge amount is thrown in there, a huge number of sims are being created around the world precisely for use for registering all social networks and in this way there is a danger in this, specifically tik toku, but i want to add that their changes are suitable for the content itself when you say that there is a large amount of such quite primitive and it is easy to see and you notice it right away. er, in the form of promoting their narratives, but there is also a more subtle approach. i sometimes see some historical , historical-geographical videos in tik tok that talk about there. look, it’s ukraine, it’s russia, it’s europe, and you’re listening to
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a seemingly neutral position. i don’t want to retell it on the air, and then somewhere around the 10th or 15th second you begin to understand that all this turns into the context of advancing russian interests, at some point you are told that in fact this part of ukraine has always been the territory of russia and only once. that is you do not right away and not uh, not very easily, you can notice the manipulation of information, that is, a year ago, two years ago, russia promoted and more such simple direct theses that there are fascists in ukraine, and ukraine is occupied by the united states, now they are starting to build slightly more complex content for in order to get into the heads of those people who are not able to quickly notice the substitution of concepts , you have fallen into the classic tick toku trap. that is, you have fallen on the content that you did not
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intend to watch, and in this there is a question for the algorithms, those who dropping information which you talked about, it always existed in the russians , there were several a-a vectors of information struggle, including a gentle russification , so with you, well, what were they counting on in principle, do you remember that on february 24 , they went here there with a parade uniform were convinced that they would be greeted here with flowers, and this is precisely why this gentle russification, uh, positioning yourself as a defender of russian-speaking ukrainians, as a promotion of uh, culture of russian, this dostoevsky, you just didn’t see this content, today you got into the reconfigured algorithms of tiktok a-and this could be seen in the most vivid way when after the visit of one of the leaders of china to russia
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a-- tiktok started to promote quite aggressively almost the next day almost the next day and those trends that they were not there until today, but this does not say that there was no such content e i want to believe that this is just a coincidence well, it would be absolutely adequate in the perception of a normal person, but the fact is that today britain and western countries ban tik-tok for use in work phones, namely employees in on the work phones of people connected to the national security and defense sector indicates that the whole world has a certain mistrust of this social network precisely in the matter of incorrect collection of personal data and that they can collect what information
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do you know that our viewers to at least understand how they are exposed. and they can track your geolocation, they can track your interests in the search , they look for your likes, they try to catch anomalies precisely on anomalies content promotion is being done, but if you have never gone, for example, to an optician for glasses, then you have never gone to an optician, and then once you got into an optician , that is, the algorithm saw it. what is the first artificial intelligence solution? your vision has fallen and you will be surprised, but after one and a half to two hours, your phone will be overflowing with offers to buy glasses, or to check your eyesight, or to contact
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a clinic that specializes in laser correction, or whatever. well, just like that it works on such a primitive example, ah, with glasses there and optics, they really like to conduct tik-toks, publish videos, make videos , they are popular, and here i have a question : if tiktok controls the geo- location of the users’ location, can china secretly transmit such information to russia in order to record the exact location of our military, see uh, in this story , you don’t need to be paranoid, well, that is, we talked about the extremes, you have settings in your phone that include geolocation, that is, if you uh treat your safety with er, well, with responsibility , you take care of it not when everything has already happened, but at the moment when you only thought about it for the first time, that is, in
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the settings to track geolocation, you go to tiktok and put no in this case well, it is unlikely that the algorithm there uh somehow will come in and violate your desire and does it follow the privacy of the use of tiktok by the military actually it's a very good story it's a very cool case they just ripped the russians to pieces at the beginning wars they continue to tear them and now uh in their mockery demonstration of their absolute helplessness stupid uh our tenacity our strength of spirit and it is difficult to overestimate the contribution of tik tok to our victory at the beginning of this full-scale invasion that is, it is uh like any thing
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er, it all depends on the quality , the amount of consumption, the consciousness of consumption and the responsibility of what you consume. and if we talk about artificial intelligence, which you already mentioned at the beginning, then such a thing as cha-gpt appeared , no, everyone understands. by the way also the same i have a rather weak understanding of what this thing is, but i noticed that people use it instead of google, they enter some kind of question , for example, what is known about me, ivan tarasynka , and they are just having fun there? an unknown person yes but if we talk about uh some things closer to the topic of our conversation then uh i think that very, very soon soon uh this tool can be used to
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compose some content for example for these pseudo-historical channels when a question arises, for example, why ukraine is actually russia, and well, this algorithm throws up an already artificially written story, why is it so, but we know this when we ask such a question. and you can simply publish it in the same tik tokio tektoku in the same telegram some kind of story a-a well, they say, referring to some, for example, fictional expert and words or abilities yes, this artificial intelligence , to what extent is this thing, the question is actually how dangerous this thing is, how much it can soon even fix you maybe some so the potential threat from this chajeti, well, it’s not us who is fixing it, the whole world is fixing it, well, that is, we have finally reached the stage of human development when this story about the three laws of robotics becomes relevant from fantastic literature, it moves into
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our lives, just like the works of jules once did true, they were perceived as something . why is it impossible? 20,000 are under water, well, in the 20th century, it all became a reality, the day before yesterday , or a few days ago, a meteorite fell in that , you know, after that, nothing is relevant. you are still surprised by many reasons. today we are at a very interesting stage of evolution, and artificial intelligence is really entering our lives today . in my childhood, in order to make a phone call from the village to the city, you had to come to the post office in a day to order a call, then the telephone operator would do it, that's how it was done here . very wealthy people did it. people who had their own
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phone, and who didn't, went to the post office , ordered and came in the next to the next day and told each other as if it were a fantasy that and if i had imagined there would be such a video phone yes er this path we passed there in 20 years we passed from er one er actual millennium to another and it happened very quickly in those at the speeds at which artificial intelligence is developing today, we will see a lot of interesting things there in the next decade or even faster, or well, here it is difficult to talk about the work there, the center as a center . you can also track how intelligence can generate continue the discussion of this topic in a few minutes, we have a short break and me i really care whether artificial intelligence has already started to work for russia or a. there are already in the message and
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cities took away their relatives, stole their childhood, and then they forcibly took ukrainian children to the aggressor country, they were sure of their own impunity, but the international criminal court in gaza issued a warrant for the arrest of the dictator, according to which order they deported our children, and this is only the beginning of a historic decision from which historical responsibility will begin. i am grateful to everyone in the world who helps us fight for justice, all those guilty of crimes against ukraine will be punished, none of us was on vacation for a single day, my brothers are here . this is my other family. wherever i am, i am
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a ukrainian, we have 10% training, but patriotism 90 already in the process of how they worked, studied themselves, heroes are not born, there will not be a country like russia at the moment, it is just a matter of time, they told me that if a look would kill in us, we would all be killed by volunteers, patrons, benefactors, the administration , the weapons themselves, but the weapons that are directed so that to save the lives of our heroes, we are all ukrainians doing this work of ours nexia cannot heroes glory to ukraine glory to the heroes from monday to saturday 23:15 in marathon the only news 1+1 continues the national telethon
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on the air project discussion platform night let's talk about the trends of russian propaganda. and here we stopped. whether russia has started to use artificial intelligence to generate a mass of these fake messages, fake historical concepts . are we fixing that or is it already there? let's define what exactly you have under artificial intelligence. such tools as this is an element of artificial intelligence russia has been using has been using artificial intelligence for many years , in fact, as well as the whole world , that is, computers, which is also part of artificial intelligence of intelligence a-a and regarding the e-e gpt chat yes e-e say that we can clearly track there the material that would have been generated by jepetin and thrown a-a into the promotion e-e well today it is very difficult a-e because we are talking about e
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the quality of the created e-e works in principle adequate starting positions is such that even scientists of the council of universities cannot distinguish a dissertation from a real one from a gpto-generated one, assert that they exist, but also cannot help but create that they do not exist, especially if an ordinary person can come in and anything type ask ask and one out of 10 will be of quite good quality regarding hellish flour yes this is also a story including a-a i would like to think with artificial intelligence and i would like to think that he is playing into our hands here , i.e. these russians who write the translator is such a fool, ah, well, artificial intelligence puts a--a pig
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, so to speak , to the audience. -is i just translated the russian texts, yes, automatically, and er, the phrase of the thesis that i no no no no no no, there is no urine to endure this hellish flour, in fact, this is a meme that was born, it seems, in the 14th year, we have semenchenko seeds and from the ends of semenchenko seeds arose this story already when you say it is so ukrainian is being built. yesterday we wrote about it. tell
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us about it. ukrainian stroy they translate as ukrainian. brings light and goodness i would like in this one to believe a, but in fact, when we talk about the huge information companies of the russians, we are specialists in analytics, centers for countering disinformation, we see that behind this is the promotion of a-a, namely with the help of artificial intelligence, and when we talk about bots , troll factories a-a in most in some cases, on the other side of the monitors, there are no people. if you could imagine that such a class is big and everyone is sitting there writing comments to us , machines have been doing it for a long time, well, it is precisely this artificial intelligence that is being discussed. well, somewhere in 90% of cases , the comments are exactly the same allegedly different of accounts, it's true acacia, but it's primitive artificial intelligence, we see how it develops and today we can talk about the depth to the fifth comment, that is, when
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the artificial intelligence generates a discussion with you and you to the fifth, well, it was the state of e- well, today it has progressed even further. that is, you are arguing with a living person , and there is a more or less live account that is constantly being filled, something is being posted, something is being commented on, and you are convinced that you are wasting your time and energy. well, even more so, you they can even convince, and it will be very scary, so my advice is to use social networks very responsibly and to consume information very responsibly. to date, ukrainians have shown a very high degree of resistance to information attacks, we adhere to information hygiene, but the main thing is that after a - and our victory, these skills, they
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