[000:00:00;00] it is constantly located in various systems. that is, the tracking was an understanding that it was not a warhead, there was no anxiety that something would blow us up, but there was a misunderstanding of why, in a certain way, you knew that it was lying , let it be. well, in the end, when a rocket flies , it is not clear whether it is a warhead or not warhead and you say that a nuclear warhead could be attached to this missile and when it was in the air no one knew whether there was concrete or not concrete or a nuclear warhead and what the consequences could be if it really was charged. this is the main secret. the secret of this situation is as it is today. and why did it happen that they were monitored and left without any notification, that is, the government and the president of poland do not want to quarrel with the russians and do not want or receive any requests from american partners not to enter into a direct

confrontation now the military is with the russians . well, i want to tell you. unfortunately, the conclusion was the same as during the disaster in smolensk in 2010. well, there is a certain easy approach to the security problem, unfortunately, it is too an easy approach to the security system well, according to the general about whom i said that when it fell well, then it was necessary to get everything back on its feet and find it and then study it and what happened because the problem is that we have answers since december, even more accumulated it was and now society has the right to demand. and do we? we are actually well protected , that is, negligence. in your opinion, the reason is as simple as negligence. well, theories are possible. where we will build, in fact, there is a problem of

absolute negligence and, well, the lack of professional actions of people who should be responsible. for the security system in poland, that's all. well, okay, the journalists dug up the reactions and reflections of the statements of the russian side, because so far i see that only the russian president's tests are bearish, i propose to break diplomatic relations with poland for something else absolutely, but well, i mean, to be honest i don't understand how such things can happen. and somehow you quietly know what's going on because of the fact that on the other side, not on the russian side , this general said, well, on the russian side, it's the same, the quieter the better, but they will understand the situation is like this: a missile flew into a nato country and fell into nato airfields near nato bases. so they did it by accident and it is better that poland does not notice it for them . it is very important for them. isn't this a demonstrative act? it

was far from it. well, if it was demonstrative, they would already be crowing here for four for months, we all told you that if there was an explosion, then you could say that medvedev would have been there to tell the story, but something is just flying and poses a danger, that is, in it for russia, in fact, it is a very strong image blow. well, because it is not in general, they operate their own missiles and are a danger to everyone, well, bydgoszcz is flying. listen, well, 300 km from berlin, well, that is , there is a situation that another missile killed two polish villagers. we remember this incident and we do not know where it was launched from and whose it is the production was this missile, where are you and the red line behind which it will already be included i don't know the fifth article of the nato treaty or when the country on the father of poland poland itself maybe

somehow more actively entered into this history well this is actually a key question you put it. where is this? where is this moment? i think that we are very close to this element when the rocket fell a couple of 10 km from the border between ukraine and poland and then it must be said that there was such a moment when the americans cut down very hard and do you remember the statements of president zelenskyi and general zaluzhnyi about this, that this is not a ukrainian missile, and then i investigated this incident and so on, that is, they sat down from this moment with this missile's flight near bydgoszcz, that is, we have not been in the situation of such threats is different are these psevodovs or translations of ukrainian anomastics, that is, we came very close, and there was an element of this

psevodov that a rocket had fallen, among other things , such information was very significant for me, that is, that general mili. after this incident, he called general gerasimul in they have a traditional connection and they are responsible for nuclear weapons and whether there is a danger in using them or there is no danger and the game magerasimo did not pick up the phone and i then americans decided for myself that we what who to whom the reel, as they say, came off with the flight and it went away and we did not get close to this moment, i think that yes, someday in history there will be an investigation of this incident here from this bribery that there is no over baudelaire, on the other hand, for the russians, this is the situation in poland. we discussed such negligence that just doesn't fit in my head. and it happened, well, instead, for the russians

, it shows that they just don't rule very strongly and they can't get in, and things like this happen in uman, where there are genocilian people and they can't rule theirs there, but they already pose a direct threat to nato and us to your question, what can the answer be, but it is very simple that we are approaching these incidents testify to the fact that we may be approaching such a moment in which others are already beginning er and others in any - which russian fairy tale repeats itself three times, you understand, and there have already been two missiles . well, maybe you think that escalation and the involvement of poland is more active in this war of scarecrows, well, it’s gone. what will be found

? flew in and is based in poland, and we also understand that nato has adopted a different strategy , which will not happen, because the discussion was about nato's strategy. nato recognized such a strategy. well , the baltic countries, half of poland will be occupied, then we are going to take six months, two months, three months and then liberate the next day everyone understands that there may be no one to liberate and now i am president biden saying that not a single inch of nato land will not be forgiven, everyone is preparing for this until this moment and it is such a thing i am serious, i will tell you that the decision that the president makes will not be easy because it will cause a conditional nuclear war with the scale of which i understand, but we understand that life on

earth can be destroyed 10 times in general, that is, we need to try 10 times to strike just because it is well, there is such a situation , on the other hand, the russians are behaving defiantly and are unequivocally provoking it. yes, but it does not cause fear in the polish society, it is a threat -3 causes, but the actions of one's own government is called what is being formed on it, but i went to the company and saw it just now that something is behind a large pipe in the forest and they asked to inform well, then there is a question and why is this happening and these retired generals , officers and everyone else say that there is no problem in sight, otherwise the problem is of course, but it is flying in yes, but the problem is something is happening there, that is, how can we calculate a how does it start to fall a little more thickly, you are blocks like that with concrete when in which in 2001 yes

, we have an ordinary block in brovary. in this house in brovary, of course, of course, it can be a bolonka. okay, let's do another rather interesting topic. today it became known that poland managed to take a russian school on its balance sheet, which, despite the court decision that in 2016, the russian embassy refused to return to the polish side well, i won't call it some kind of confrontation, but obviously the situation was very tense, and now the russians allegedly left this building and now it will be used for discretion according to poland, miroslava, well, it’s actually an interesting case, while ukraine is fighting for the eviction of russian priests from our lavra, it is its own in the field of education, as we can see now, an epic. and actually this causes

an active reaction in the russian politician or this service staff of the russian politician, what is this story about can she somehow, well, limitlessly scale the relations between russia and poland, which are at practically zero level , well, this is not the first time that a court decision will fall out , the city government said that we must comply with everything came up and the russians can ignore the decision of the court e-e earlier , immediately after february 24. last year, another significant event took place, and warsaw had such a which ukraine claimed, the late dmytro pavlychko , when he was the ambassador of ukraine in warsaw, very strongly

intervened in this circle to return it, they gave it back , they returned the property of ukraine, it was not possible to do this, the russians stood there to the death and so further and after february 24, the confiscation was over there, some of the people were resettled, that is, evicted, now it is already polish state property. well, similarly with this building of this school, russians understand not only that poland is the main hub of transport, logistics and humanitarian ukraine, but it is also an extremely important country for nato and for the european union in the confrontation with russia, and now russia has no instruments of influence on poland. that is why this post of despair of the former president medvedev said to

the parliament diplomatic relations well you are breaking diplomatic relations. what is the difference in those minutes when you are only engaged in espionage work and even in germany they expelled 50 diplomats, which seemed like a year ago. if someone said that germany would expel 50 e-e russian diplomats , no one would believe it today. that russia is really becoming a peer in the international international arena to the international community and these are people who do not know how to do anything. well, let me remind you that the school is for the children of russian diplomats. and i i somehow missed this moment, and what other russian diplomats are there, even if there are only a small number ? there are a lot of them left in poland, or a long time ago, and not only you know. you will also not find economic representative offices, that is, the huge complexes of the embassy itself. plus, there are a lot of

premises that were indirectly owned and belonged to russian companies and so on in warsaw, well, it is quite large in terms of the number of properties that were in the possession of russia. or legal entities of the russian federation, let's go to one more topic, mr. myroslav, about the restriction of ukrainian exports of ukrainian agricultural products until may 2. poland should abandon the ban on the import of dozens of food products from ukraine and replace it with a decision of the european commission, namely a ban on four types of goods, wheat corn, rapeseed and sunflower seeds are introduced in general for all its countries, the european commission ukraine will not be able to export these types of products because it is fair in your opinion, i mean to the ukrainian producer for polish farmers is clear. they are protecting their market. what will this change for ukraine? i think it's not quite

. let's say it 's a friendly step from the european commission in the first place. there are only europeans who signed the letter poland, romania , slovakia, hungary and bulgaria, these are the countries, it does not apply to the transit of ukrainian agricultural products, this is the first one , there is no sunflower oil in the list of these, that is, there are four it was about what should be sunflower oil, there is no sunflower oil, in fact, uh, well, as a citizen of poland, uh, i already spoke about it and confirm my opinion that it is very shameful for this decree to introduce a ban, because there were no grounds for the introduction of this embargo. therefore that the import of ukrainian agricultural products was not so large that it destabilized the polish market, and today, too

, journalists conducted an investigation and received full information, and it turned out that there were no reasons for raising such a huge the hysterics were even guided by this european commission, or do we remember that poland introduced an embargo on 17 or 18 named agricultural products, that is, poultry, poultry meat, sugar , milk, eggs and honey, and fruits, and so on, that there are soft fruits and the european commission i did not receive information. and how much was actually imported? how much was imported by porsha and other countries, and the european commission said yes, well, grain, we understand , you told us so much. and so much came from ukraine. well, we take into account that for flat

producers of agricultural products there is wheat, where is rapeseed, sunflower and corn, this destabilized the situation, low prices and yes, prices, and we can defend ourselves. good, but you do not provide information about the rest, and that is why the european union said good. we take responsibility for the violation of the free trade zone with ukraine. and for you, the bill of lading imposes restrictions on you , so i wanted to ask you the following question : is there transit in poland with the import of our products there ? in fact, with the political situation of the country, and on the weight of it being liked by its voters, farmers are part of the electorate, and on the truth, maybe somewhere even populist, this trend, which is everywhere in the world, now also plays a role here

, well, except for populism, yes, the answer sounds yes, but except this populism still has finances, it’s very simple, well, i’ve been in polish politics for a while, and i understand the method of operation of these farmers and whether they are big entrepreneurs holding large agricultural products and so on, and when they shout and name some numbers, they called you know, for ukrainian honey to arrive for three years of polish beekeeping production, it turned out to be complete nonsense, because for the first time it imported honey in 2022, less than 2021 ukrainian honey was imported to itself , and then i heard huge quantities and how and what trouble and so on when they are so they shout and say that four million tons of grain have entered there, so we, i know that as a citizen i have to hold my pockets because they want to receive subsidies for their products because

something did not work out there, the market did not work, these did not decreased and so on, the weather was just right, ukrainian products can be, well, from ukrainian grain, that is, from ukrainian grain, eh, the problem on the grain market in poland is not, hmm, the result of eh, or on a very limited scale or percentage, eh, it is the result of imports of ukrainian grain, a small amount of corn, for example, the piston imported less, as if more impertuar , i apologize, the result is less due to what was calculated by farmers with an estimate. and what will be the price of products in the harvest? last year, it was high from 1,500 zlotys to 1,800 per ton of wheat, now it is thousand, and they left them in the bins because it seemed to them that the minister of agriculture also said

that, uh, that is , something like this is happening unfortunately, that is, and well, the parliamentary elections in october of 233, that is, this year, and this element of populism is absolutely present. unfortunately, this competition is also present, and in addition to everything else, there is at the moment how to get out of this situation, and i can still say that i will to hope that after president zelenskyi took a tough position, the european commission intervened in this situation and the ukrainian foreign ministry also took such a correct and correct position that everyone will have a little bit of this populism and heated political heads, everyone will take a sip of cold water and come to our senses, populism is winning after all

, that is, they pressed the european commission. it is being twisted eh, all the ministers of foreign affairs or from its secular economy and the european union have extended the customs regime with ukraine for the next year , that is, they all go hand in hand, but instead , such failures are happening again in such a very delicate sphere, as in the countryside, yes, yes, polish politician, journalist - a member of the polish diet in the past, thank you for your participation mr. miroslava , we talked about the problem of poland, ukraine and the european union in general well, now we will talk about the problems of the east with our next guest and this is mykhailo yakubovych - orientalist, mr. mykhailo, we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes good day thank you for patiently waiting, we apologize for a little polish-ukrainian relations , we got carried away and now we will move on to a more

delicate matter as the erdogans say, putin had a phone conversation, in particular, it was about the war in ukraine and the continuation of the grain initiative is not only about this, it was also discussed . now it is about the fact that a nuclear power plant is operating in turkey that is powered by russian nuclear fuel, this is happening at a time when ukraine continues to insist on sanctions against seedlings, in addition, putin er notes that in turkey very soon er will be fully operational, through which russian energy carriers can be exported to third countries, respectively, although they have a stage in this sense of logistics everything is okay , what is happening, mr. mykhailo, should we stress a little ahead of the day of the turkish elections , please, and in fact, we should stress there for a long time, because the issue with the construction of a nuclear

power plant lies even beyond the borders for turkey, this is the issue of sanctions against the wasp, which was actively involved in the occupied chernobyl nuclear power plant at the time and is currently one of the main actors in the occupied zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, but there are still no sanctions against rosatom. and this is clearly not an issue turkey, why aren’t they actually here, er, in that gas hub that erdogan and putin agreed on at one time, er, well, this is a question that not only lies on the plane there , the european union, turkey, russia, and this gas hub can also be used to pump into it gas to other countries, in particular, turkmen gas through azerbaijan, what is being discussed now and the direction it is in is quite strategic and important for the european union, and here not only the issues of russia, ukraine, turkey, but also the issues of armenia, azerbaijan

, azerbaijan, karabakh and so on are coming into force here this is exactly the extremely complex geopolitical google, but probably the next turkish president will decide the fate of this hub, because we see it in the exit polls, after all, autogana, well , as usual, it will be difficult to refrain from all these projects in the field of energy that were started by verdogan, which have now reached a fairly significant level. apparently, they will continue after all, and we see that when it comes to the issue of energy, uh, well, here , with sanctions, it is much, much more difficult than with some i, er, other industries where the measures of the country can jump relatively easily, here the situation is already more complicated and , unfortunately, so far it is in many issues , including this one in the energy industry, it

specifically slips and something special prospects are on the horizon and the most cool ones are not visible phala, what should we expect if the president in turkey really changes, dolu perrinchek, the presidential candidate decided to give russia the territories of ukraine in the south and east , he spoke at a press conference and stated that the fact of the inclusion of crimea in russia, the so-called hordes of the zaporozhian kherson regions, has to be recognized officially yes, openly, he is a candidate from the nationalist party homeland well, not our homeland from the turkish, what do you think about the probability of this particular candidate coming to power, are they likely and what do we then expect from the foreign policy of turkey - it is a marginal that will not gain a lot of votes there. this is an extremely extreme politician with such a long and negative history of participation in various elections, and i would not particularly

take his opinion into account. that is, in general, a certain part of the population is influenced there is such a part of the population, but the majority of the turkish community holds other views, it looks at russia's aggression against ukraine as, first of all , a russian-ukrainian war or a russian-ukrainian crisis, and not aggression a secondly, on the confrontation between the west and the east, in which turkey should intervene only to the extent that it is beneficial to turkey itself, this is a policy that turkey has been continuing for almost a hundred years, and even this is actually 100 years since the time of atatürk, a policy that allowed turkey to conditionally survive the second world war and it is the same policy that allowed her during the cold war to remain in such a position where she considered it to be the most advantageous for herself, and the majority of turkish

society is oriented in this way, and even erdogan's entourage, which at one time supported him, then left him, now the middle class has begun to support kemal, as they say, the road to turkey is undergoing a certain process of dictatorization, or maybe the authoritarian regime has changed to a more democratic one, but the relations between the turkish and ukraine no one expects any significant changes in the russian-turkish relations, because the same turkish business is very strongly connected with russia and the west at the same time, therefore drastic steps even in the case of coming to power someday, and the horn, which is very probably no one will make changes in the parliament if the party of the body cannot get the majority of votes and so on. well , i would like to give the ukrainian wisdom

of vasyl symonenko as an example to the potential voters of this pen will decide. as they say, mykhailo. i follow the crimean a publics in general, the information space with their television, and i note that now among all these local pseudo-political scientists , the whole navel thesis is spreading that until now erdogan will remain the president of turkey, crimea will be protected from the sea, so they are not talking about complete protection from crimea, that ukraine cannot carry out any offensive operations on the peninsula. from everyone i understand so from the nato countries, which also have complaints about turkey and the nato countries , but as long as erdoğan is the president, in principle, they feel safe, is it possible to conclude that putin and russia are really putting

it is for erdoğan in the upcoming elections, and in no other way, they bet on him for a certain time, and for them the status of quotas was all the more suitable. literally in the last month , decisions were made there to increase the number of viagras and also increase turkish sales in russia, but now there is a question about the passage of ships that, in fact, turkey has blocked the passage of any warships that might be suitable for crimea to pose a threat to it, and there are certain fears among russian propagandists that they say that in the case of the arrival of kemal kylich, the road and the convention will be revised accordingly, and under some pretext nato ships will go there, but i would not take it seriously. because all the actions of russia in crimea, even starting from the genocide of the crimean tatars and the occupation in 2014, they always took place under the guidance of the fact that they say that turkey will take

crimea and unfortunately, in ukraine, there is a part of the environment that continues to repeat this stupid thesis and also warm up russian propagandists there, i would treat it as such a classic narrative of the russian one with an explanation to his own voter why we need crimea and why we cannot lose crimea because then the west through turkey will take it, but hmm, this is one of those potential e-e media scarecrows that russia can launch in the event of a cheater will really become a more pro-western candidate than he is, or may not run if he continues the same policy, now more experts still suspect that such an active pro-western position can be expected from him, at least what questioned russia's cooperation with turkey, that's why i would take these statements of russian propagandists, which have been heard

for many years there, i would take them seriously, this is typical of their rhetoric , which they say is either russian, or then the turks will take it, there will be nato bases and so on, that is, serious, well, seriously to the expert environment - it is now, at least in the events that are taking place in turkey , that it is not visible that turkey has started some kind of military cooperation with ukraine, and even more so that a nato country has started to provide, for example its bases for reconnaissance planes for students, it’s similar here, well, at the moment, there are no such forecasts. and what will happen next in a year or two is, of course, a question that will obviously depend in many respects on the success of the ukrainian counteroffensive, including the events around crimea. thank you, mykhailo yakubovych , a court expert was in direct contact with the studio. thank you, mr. mykhailo, for participating in the news on the bright tv channel. it appears on our screens. congratulations, colleague . good afternoon. i will tell you about the most important thing together with