[000:00:00;00] i think that it is necessary to limit the existence of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, it is necessary to demand from the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate that it has clearly proven that it has no ties with the uoc mp, it is necessary to set specific requirements, such as, say , the republic of latvia has set the latvian orthodox church you must demand e-e autocephaly. you must renounce any relationship on the day of the canonical o. it will be officially announced . decide for yourself, decide for yourself as you want. well, fine, but if the uoc mp remains on the basis on which it exists today and its existence will lead to the split of ukraine. well, that is also real, what can be said here, and uh, i don't see anything terrible in this, then not terrible son, i think that you are patient, there are honestly many priests who and parishioners who do not want

this growth, and this is also the case, and they are also in the east, and there are definitely other people in this too, there are people who are part of the machine of patriarch kirill, there are collaborators, but there is also an honest priest it is necessary to realize and i think that the government should not dictate the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, as we should be and the inner life, she herself only has to decide how to negotiate with constantinople, on what basis to unite with the orthodox church of ukraine, how to return to canonicity, but the state must clearly demand that you either return to subordination or you have no right to this land, to these temples, to these communities, exist for yourself as you want. you simply cannot be a religious organization that owns all with this property, with all the opportunities that were given to you because you are part of the occupying body. well, i don't think that this should be an honest conversation

. we know more about how your mercedes is asking for it, trying to get in touch somehow with patriarch kirill, but it's all gauze kirill. something doesn't work with him. well, he's like putin. he uses people, then forgets about them , then i mention them again, but it's not about metropolitan paul and nemetopolisionuphrius the point is that we have to realize that this church for 100 years was a much more serious instrument of russification of the ukrainian civilizational space than even the communist party of the soviet union . the cult of all its saints, from lenin, yevgeny bosch to kirov and kalinin, exactly according to the example

of the russian orthodox church, it did not invent anything, the slogans are very similar, but the saints in the portraits are the essence of the elite, so there is its own calendar but this is ersatz, that's why when this paragraph ceases to exist, then its believers also cease to exist, they just don't exist anymore in some poor societies, you know, they exist and get power, right now there's the prime minister, there's a representative of the communist party, the mariy center, so what ? then there is nothing and he runs the government and as many more examples can be given when people vote for communists so really because utopia always wins in a poor society and this church itself, when it is

a representative of such an ancient tradition, it is very serious, very significantly affects the state of society. i always give an important example here that when, say, moscow was a participant in the partition of poland and included itself in belarusian ukrainian lands, two completely different processes took place there, belarusians were greek catholics and they were greek catholics , devoid of tradition, she came there simply the russian orthodox church harshly and essentially deprived belarusians of their identity , and here since the greek-catholic church was actually destroyed here, i mean not western, eastern, central, central ukraine sambir was destroyed during the uprising of bohdan khmelnytskyi, and here the main one. i would say that it continued because the kyiv metropolis and the kyiv metropolis simply at some point became part of the russian orthodox church without changing in particular, that is, what changed

for a person who went to the church of the kyiv metropolis before and after of its actual annexation of the moscow metropolis. well, the same priest . the same words, the same prayers. well, they just remember that the patriarch of moscow, well, he was mistaken for a patriarch before by others. patriarchs as ordinary people, it is really difficult to decide in which city they commemorate him, but the essence was that this annexation allowed moscow, through this metropolis , through these very people, through all this , to influence the self-awareness of the ukrainian people in one way or another, to accustom them to inferiority, to accustom them that the center is in moscow, that antiquity is in moscow, that it is really the center of civilization, although in fact the truth is that it is the moscow metropolis, a continuation of the kyiv metropolis, on the contrary, that

it is with the kyiv metropolitan that the metropolitans headed the services in moscow and not the other way around, then moscow princes were invented for themselves, first there were princes of volodymyr, they gave themselves to the metropolitan of volodymyr, then moscow princes but it was all from kyiv it was the main table for all these lands for 100 years and they changed it i would say you know eh cart and horse and turned the whole situation upside down and our people have lived in this polo for centuries and they still see the light there coming from moscow why oh why moscow - this is just a border fortress of suzdolsk of rostov principalities in the times when kyiv has been the center, the religious center of these lands for 100 years, in order to understand this, you have to learn history

, well, no, you can't even learn history, because if in a normal country you can not learn history , you just know it, you understand, well, that's it it would be elementary if someone in london believed that the history of great britain generally begins with new york. well, where was the center, in general, from there, everything started from new york. or maybe toronto . well, that ’s it, too. it does not fall on the opinion of everyone there is desirable, well, the united states is a big country and canada is big in terms of territory and cultural assets of the country, and they are all respected by great britain with them in allied relations, but no englishman has ever thought that the history of england began in america, because he knows that it is the other way around to the people who lived on these lands, who claimed that their history began in moscow, in fact, and that all civilization was in moscow, and here there was

a village, and there a city, and it was all a complete mess, and the church used its continued to impose this worldview on people as a moral authority because she was russian. and do you believe that pasha mercedes , if he convinces there that he has nothing to do with russia from the russian orthodox church, eh, there will be a factory to talk about how to love ukraine and to pray for ukraine for its victory. i think that such people as metropolitan pavlo are sincerely convinced of what they are doing, and this is not only a question of money , it is a question of sectarianism to a certain extent. this man did not have christ in me, in principle, there is no christ and somewhere there i would even say that he is absolutely a soviet man well, there were soviet priests, there were people who were simply

sent to the russian orthodox church from the federal security service of the russian federation through the kgb of the ussr, i was always surprised by the patriarch kirill i have known him since the end of the 80s , when he was metropolitan of smolensk and kaliningrad and head of the department of external church relations of the moscow patriarchate. i am listening to his press conference. as a politician, he also surprised me by the fact that he did not speak like a priest, but i am used to the way priests speak. he communicated with many metropolitans and in russian of the orthodox church. one intonation series of people who, in principle, were used to praying, and patriarch kirill all the time when he was metropolitan kirill always talked in a different way well

, simply, of course, that is, unusual. when i heard that he was, in principle, an fsb agent, there was a trail after which he was sent to monitor the priests somewhere abroad, but recently i suddenly understood that he spoke as a holy priest because he is not a priest, he is an officer, a high-ranking officer of the state security committee of the soviet union. this is how i heard such intonations when i talked with people from the czech environment. and it is surprising that this person did not even learn, maybe he did not want to, maybe they thought that such an intonation scares his colleagues to speak like that the priest should speak because he why so because of course the general of the fsb because he has been there for a long time the general does not devote time to prayer well he usually goes when it is necessary to read sermons i can't read it he hosted a television program he knows all this well he

studied all this deeply but he does not pray internally, and all these people, even if they are connected to the kgb, they still lived in these prayers, well, they went to cooperation in order to remain priests, we understand . on the contrary, this one became a priest because he was an employee and he internally, he just you know how in this joke, when president putin asks. do you know this joke from patriarch kirill and father? what if god actually exists, friends, god forbid? well, this is their true meaning, and everything fell into place for me. you know, that's it. i just thought, well, logically, correctly, if a person internally does not believe in anything and does not pray and does not touch anything, then he is talking to you as a professional politician, and we are talking to believers as a professional period of what they are, this is the intonation it is not artificial, it goes

the inner person may be bad there. she may not be of the same composition as a real priest should be, but she is inner. let's put it this way, she wants to be in prayer all the time, to muddy something, somehow to accept the world because of this, even though she may not be there perfect and this by the way, metropolitan pavlo he has been looking especially like a priest for a week, i mean, there is this thing on him, there is a pattrahil , he wears a cross there, but he talks like some er to people, like some drunken er to er - and this is also somehow very strange no, i don't want such words, but i have the impression that he is just that he is not from mercedes, from some mare, he is threatening journalists , you know, it looks a bit like aunts who are hired to come to some problems, this is because i say i knew many higher hierarchs of the russian

of the orthodox church, they have never in their lives, uh, they were people with a very conservative view, absolutely. that is, i can’t even convey how, but they never talked like that because they already had a sense of self -worth. the metropolitan, you know, some journalist there. and you, the metropolitan, are a member of the sacred the synod of the church, this is just almost, there are exactly two steps left to god, how can you talk to a sinner, even descending to his level, when the salvation of thousands of people who look to you as their confessor depends on you some, well, it's just that he's there, uh, we're in a monastery, there's a farm of mercedes chickens, that's normal. yes , that's clear. and it's very surprising, this communist calendar about may 9, i jokingly

call it the soviet easter, and this may 1 - this is palm sunday, and january 1 is christmas. well, it’s a joke about sacrifices in russia. it’s the same in christianity. in christianity, it was adapted to ancient pagan holidays, so we have ivan kupala. and on this religious christian holiday, the italians have faragos. the dormition of the blessed virgin mary is the main holiday of the year. well, the communists adjusted to the christian calendar, which they simply didn't care about, that they simply don't understand anything, people who falsify history and the lives of people, they can't do anything but how to make a remake for them this year, their easter on may 9 will be a little so spoiled, only the president of kyrgyzstan is going to putin, and what's more, all these immortal

regiments have been changed here and there , he happens to be there by chance, he just came for a visit and they won't let him, they won't let him they are allowed to leave but just so that the visit came on these dates, do you remember when the president of azerbaijan heydar alif came to putin on february 23 and they didn't even cancel the joint press conference because he didn't want to stand next to it or he already understood well, as an experienced politician, what can be asked of him, and he did not want to simply take part in this, only this sudanese general, who is now destroying with a hart, you also came then and supported this declaration of independence of the dpr of the lpr , and he is an ordinary bandit, just us to him that he has nothing to do with aliyah, live, live in azerbaijan, so these are completely different motives, and regarding may 9, i will tell you

that it seems to me that the essence here is not in safety, not that they are afraid of drones, they are afraid of portraits, because a large number of people and they cannot deny it to them, they will go out on the streets not with portraits, yes, not with portraits of grandfathers, but fathers, brothers and husbands , and how will the government tell them no, you know, you don’t go out with them, this is not our immortal regiment. well, how can you say that when volodymyr volodymyrovich putin orders the creation of museums of special operations that we have in the museum of special operations yes, we have respected veterans , heroes of the victims of the great war and they just imagined what vladimir volodymyrovych would do with a portrait of stalin i don't know there well, good word there father or someone else it doesn't matter if someone was there to be carried on a stick, and there will be a huge number of people with portraits of their relatives, one

trouble, another trouble, in moscow, everyone will walk around with portraits of their grandfathers, but in small towns, regional centers with portraits of their parents, the weight is unpleasant, and they will all be photographed and will this is to teach. look at the happy demonstration in moscow . grandfathers fought and some were there, but there are no grandfathers there. there are no young guys in modern photos and women there or mothers with their portraits are crying badly because this is again is splitting the country and again. people, you see, they are there in moscow , they don't even notice how we live, what is happening to us here in some national republics, like the buryats or the vaginsky buryat autonomous district, where they say that there are almost no men left of conscription age, this will be a demonstration of the genocide

of russians before them that they were the first to throw them into the meat used as cannons, and if the immortal regiment wants donetsk to carry it out, russia now, according to the constitution of the russian federation, how will it look there you understand. that is, they have nothing left, they actually want to avoid reality in general, and in order to avoid reality, they are forced to sacrifice their ideological symbols, this immortal regiment. this was their most successful invention during all these years of independence, because , well, what can you say to people who just want come out with portraits of your loved ones when you start listen it doesn't look very nice somehow they don't even understand what you are talking about because well what a big war it is

world war ii we remember our relatives in why is the problem, they don't even feel that they are getting hooked on this pobedobesse, i saw the immortal regiment in london and how many of them, well, it wasn't the same, i remember a few years ago, maybe five years ago, there were a lot of them , they came out in london well because they and this story told me in may 2009, i definitely think that on the ninth of may, this story for them coincided with the celebrations in london for the end of the second world war, so they are celebrating the end of the second world war and we will come out with portraits of our dead

our relatives who took part in the second world war are not on the side of the zhyterov heraldry , germany i apologize on the side of great britain and the usa , what is this? such a special poison that is injected there and people don't even notice it, and i think that they worked perfectly here, they did a lot of such things , they did this advice. victory in israel began to be held by veterans using those people whom they actually created the unbearable conditions of life in the soviet union itself, do you understand that if you are a hero of the soviet union and you went to live in israel or there, i see these people in parades , they were with the stars of the heroes of the soviet union , so you are a hero even if you are a hero the soviet union felt that you are treated as a second-class person here, and now you are walking around israel, which in its wars defended its independence, including from

soviet-made aircraft, the bombs here were soviet and will be determined for what is red with the flag and the slogan they defended moscow defended jerusalem i saw it too and i will tell you that again this is speculation when on the one hand you are the winner of the war and then you forget that you were there for 39-41 years, this is not discussed, you saved the jews for the israelis from the holocaust, but what you did in 39-41 is what caused the holocaust. you don't talk about it, then you don't talk about the fact that the war was fought together with the allies, and when i was in the evening, the soviet people didn't know that, there was simply no information about it. i always say it's

not true, i lived in the soviet union and me it was uh 8 years ago when it was the 30th anniversary of the victory and there was an unknown film war it was called in soviet production a documentary soviet-american something like great patriotic war or something else it was filmed there by famous documentarians and it was directed by burt lancaster, a famous american actor because it was filmed for the american audience to tell them about the contribution of the soviet union to the victory, but since it was a film for the americans, there was a lot of talk about how the allies fought there, it was 20c and i knew from this film that the video won in the united states of great britain of the soviet union, i watched this film on soviet television, i did not listen to it on the western radio station at that age, as you understand, but just as a child watched the film there was bertlan casper, no, i don't know inokhintsi

sosanovsky or vyacheslav tikhonov, but an american star and said all this and all this was on soviet television, how is that and believed by the way, as a child, but the question arises why didn't they believe when they watched it , they didn't want to, what was the first and the second was this film but despite that film, how much information of all kinds and of which country is the text of the stomach, of course, the victory of only the soviet union is true, but if you wanted to know the truth, you could know it, they simply did not want and this propaganda was designed for those who did not want to know any of this, who just wanted to know forget it even from war veterans. although i saw different people again, we still understand what a war veteran in the soviet union is, any person could get to the front with different political views and people whose political views were not the same ecosystem they this system was never defended and defended by the so-called paletruks, who said that they ran there and shouted for the family, for stalin, and

everyone rushed into battle with screams born for stalin, but the truth was that all this did not happen, that the people did not care about slogans to the may day demonstrations, when there is such a battle, now that we understand it, that it did not go out for people when they die, and then such a mythology was created that there is still cinema , that war is some kind of romantic film, yes, they even banned films and books about then the so-called soldier's truth of our fellow countryman viktor nekrasov from kyiv, who was the first to write a novel on behalf of a soldier in the trenches of stalingrad eh well, at first he was given the stalin prize for it, but he was hated so much, this styler was promoted from the soviet union, so because he is above the truth well, how much truth did he write about the war and he continued to speak the soldier's truth and no one liked it, well, this is

also absolutely logical, so here is a wonderful analysis of this whole story, but what we will hear from putin on may 9. he still needs to somehow celebrate this main russian holiday, we know what we will hear , we can analyze it according to the mandate he gives to the museum of the great patriotic war and the museum of special military operations, here is the task now to transform the so-called special operation of ukraine for the continuation of the second world war for the continuation of the great patriotic war defended moscow we will defend sevastopol that's the whole point for you and we will destroy the new nazis how we destroyed these destroyed all everything for the front everything for victory he will try, you understand, he is generally a person who is completely immersed in the past, but they say that putin

is a conservative, a conservative is a person who tries to protect some uh, the mouth of the state and society, how is it different from a liberal, a liberal demands changes, a conservative says, you know, we have a normal system, we have it to improve, and this is the struggle that is going on in the civilized world, and each of the pages is clearly valid when she defends her idea, and putin is not a conservative, he is a reactionary, he always wants to return to er, some er world of his youth, when he was a colonel or er captain of the kgb, and he felt good because the vice-prime minister came to him and said, oh andreyovich, we will create a children's movement, he is shorter , pochemu perveyy пяневый пионеры let them be called and she says that

they voted . and you will explain to the children . in for a children's designer to construct the state he likes, i assure you that if a year ago in january 2020 they said that life imprisonment could be introduced for treason even to the most conservative russians, it seemed like a match right away because well how well if we understand that the life sentence is given for murder due to murder under uh-uh some uh-uh uh-uh we are more serious circumstances if they are given to terrorists who are involved in the death of dozens of people there and

here suddenly they are next to them in the same colony a russian girl, they once showed such colonies for those who are serving life sentences. punishment and these are terrible places. these are not places where punishment is served. these are places of constant abuse of people. and for some reason, people who simply committed some political act, you can’t answer there 10-15, but here they are. in fact, they are doomed to die in prison, it is not surprising during the war, because the war threatens us , nato will soon conquer us, and he is taking many such steps step by step to turn the russian federation into the soviet union on the radio stalin's model, and from this point of view, by the way, he gives enormous opportunities to his heir, he can undo not much, you understand. if he even cancels everything that putin did not accept and did only in

2022, in the 23rd years, he will already be a liberal man . god, what a reformer, here are the bears you think, i came to power and now, for treason, i will have a life sentence of 25 years, my god , they dreamed about it all their lives , yes , what kind of president is good? uzbekistan is looking for mirzoev. when he came to power, he promised his compatriots to cancel the exit visa. because during the presidency of his predecessor, islam nods in uzbekistan, as in the soviet union, in order to leave , he needed to obtain a non-visa for some country, and an exit visa as a police officer for the union was like that. at first i went to these visa registration departments , i got an exit visa, and i could not get an exit visa, but more people didn’t get it, they didn’t go anywhere, it turns out that there were even people in uzbekistan, i didn’t even

know, well, i don’t know if they canceled it i hope that it is already the case, but the very fact that it is possible to carry out such a reform and be considered a liberal when everywhere around has already forgotten what it is when you need to explain to a young person in a neighboring country some kazakhstan . this is a classic of the genre. i would say that we have very little time left. i also wanted to ask you about another president whom we already mentioned today, the president of baidu, who is going for a second term, and a lot depends on this in relation to ukraine, as far as chances are that biden will remain the president of the united states." because there is no one among the democrats who could oppose him and who would want to do it somehow it turned out that the democratic party does not have an obvious leader and