[000:00:00;00] in these pictures, we will help you to see them as ivan pavlo, because ivan pavlo, lord, as francis, as francis, the pope, and the pope, god, the pope in hungary are kissing with hilarion, the leader of the russian orthodox church, well , the orthodox church in hungary, the right country, the right church, the right kiss , everything is just super, you you know, tomas ilves, the former president of estonia, just wrote this. actually, commenting on this footage, he wrote that this is everything that ivan paul ii never was and called on people not to be like that, literally, this is

the pope who is anti-pope, well, at least it is anti and i completely agree with you, paul ii, in that sense, well, now let’s move to the south african republic, more precisely, let’s talk about it, i would like to move there, putin would like to come there for the briksya summit, which should take place in august, but there is such a threat that when he arrives there , he may be handcuffed because of the war crimes of which he is accused, and it seems that he is already being urged not to go . ilka kuche- kucheriba is joining us oleksiy garania p oleksiyu good morning to you good morning do not forget to say that the professor of the kyiv-mohyla academy the professor of the kyiv-mohyla academy so it will be a good day good day as they say in park hauzik which

means how are you how are you housed at why do they say this in all the languages ​​that are official there, there are 11 official languages , well, yes , yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes , yes , yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, this variant of the dutch language is still preserved, which africans, yes, definitely, it has an official status. dutch, but there were a lot of impurities of tips and so on . look, if you start with south africa, you can of course say a lot. so, the first thing i will say is that this was one of the trips of our delegation of ukrainian civil society, and this is already our fifth trip to the countries of the global rooster so if we talk about this problem of putin's visit to the couple, it means let 's do it if putin goes there, well, to be honest , it is unlikely that anyone will arrest him, even from

the formal point of view of the couple as a country that signed the rome statutes member of the international criminal court, she should do it, there was a precedent - it was when i came to par. it seems that it was the 16th year, i'm afraid to make a mistake, approximately the president of sudan, albert shir , who was also on which on which was a war criminal and who was also issued a permit for he was not arrested, he was not arrested, even though the judicial system said that he should be arrested, that's why what is happening now, eh, this is the debate around it, whether putin will go or not, what is south africa's position, eh, it doesn't have so much a formal choice, and they will arrest him putin or not. because there are many versions that putin simply won't go there. and why? because actually , well, the first is because he is afraid to leave russia

. it could happen without him. some kind of removal from power there, and the second is that there will definitely be numerous demonstrations, including in the park, against him . and the third thing is that in fact it will really put south africa and other countries, as they say now, on a rampage , because they will have to sit together with the person for whom the arrest warrant was issued by the international criminal court now in relation to the very position of south africa means look literally there before the last day when i was there, there was a statement by president ramoposa and he said that the ruling party, the african national congress, which has been ruling south africa since 1994, is mandela's party, but this party, well, i i say that

she has been in power since 1994, the management is inefficient and quite corrupt, but they said that it is necessary to leave the international criminal court and president park said that we will leave. so it is clear that this was done in order to if putin could come to the couple without any scandalous moments, so to speak, and this caused a real wave of questions and remarks of the storms. and the next day it was announced , well, you know, the president mistakenly read the statement , he was mistakenly informed about the decision of the african national congress, the ruling party. in short, they immediately played it back the next day and there are contradictions in the politics of south africa , so i will say right away that the society is

in the mood, a lot of people understand what is really happening and when you have free media and a lot of materials are published there in favor of ukraine, universities, free discussion in syntenka, free discussion, the judicial system established by the british . why, and because the public was not consulted , the public raised a wave of protests and canceled it, that is, the judicial system that the british colonizers made, it

actually works, and therefore in society in society really has different opinions, it is possible to pressure the former president zuma is under arrest so when we conduct, as we joke , sociologists poll taxi drivers, which are , again, we joke that uh, it is the most reliable , then all these africans who introduce taxis, they know perfectly well what it is bakhmut, who is putin, what is putin an aggressor, and so on. that is, it is positive and negative - it is the fact that the ruling party is the african national congress. it takes a fairly pro-russian position. that is why it is connected, first, if by historical views that is, the west is bad, and russia has always been our historical allies, well, they have to explain a lot that it was not russia , it was the soviet union, of which ukraine was also a member , but what is interesting is that it was actually

ukraine that was in the un special committee on the fight against partisanship, that is, not russia adopted all these resolutions and it was ukraine that adopted all these resolutions yes and when you tell them about it well, such eyes open like that and we did not know that the comparison of levko lukyanenko with nelson mandela also passes on on hurray yes because you tell them it means the fate of levko lukyanenko and you ask, yes, you show the photo, it means that it is the ukrainian owner whose name is denis hayduk. he has his own winery. well, he lives in the village and he put the ukrainian flag there. so, the surname is hayduk. well, it is it is not by chance that anyone remembers vitaly haiduk - this is his father, the former vice-prime minister of ukraine and the owner of the donbas industrial union, but you

see this denys haiduk in his company's office, this is his wine called a necklace, which is sold both by the desk and in ukraine it is popular, so is denys, the son of hajduk, and his wife, yulia, they are from donetsk, that is. well, it is clear that russian was the predominant language, but now they are trying to communicate in ukrainian , as if they were promoting ukrainian narratives there. and this is very important. of the world well, going back to the african national congress means the first thing - these are historical schemes that the west colonizers are bad and russia is good because they say

that russia did not have colonies in africa. colonial empire well, by the way, on the territory of the ukrainian ssr near odessa, there was a camp where more than 300 fighters were prepared, as they say now, for the african national congress to fight against the russians, that is , ukraine just made a very big contribution to the fight against the partisans, and we always when they spoke there, then they talked about what, listen , we helped you, then we were so happy when you resigned, why don't you want to help us now, the official position of the couple and the second point that affects the position of nk, well, again after all, it is russian money

. that means the official position of par. than in our favor but again, the first official statement of their ministry of foreign affairs, which was on february 24 , clearly states russian aggression, russia must withdraw from ukraine, and this statement continues to appear on the website of the ministry of foreign affairs, we met at the ministry of foreign affairs if the position of the ministry of foreign affairs if it is correct they understand everything but if the political leadership i.e. the african national congress and president ramopoz i.e. yes . you have to work, you have to work, you have to explain mr. oleksiy, but actually, it seems that putin is being offered such a hybrid option of participating in the summit that he

will come out via video link, is this really possible or is this allowed, and is this a blow to putin because he fearless and here suddenly he is afraid to go to the summit, see brics is not some formulated institution since we have our own charter and so on, that is, where it is written how and what should happen, so of course this can be so and i think if it happens, it will be our victory, let's say it directly it will be our victory. yes, putin did not go there. well, we are fighting for this. yes, that is, we need to set some realistic tasks here, even if lavrov goes there and not putin, it will still be our victory, that is why we are working within the limits of the what are we, what can we influence and how, again, different countries in different ways in pairs , i will say once again that the african national congress

has big stereotypes about the role of russia and at the same time they say well, we are not against ukraine, we are all like we would understand everything, but the united states supports you all great britain supports you and this is a bad measure so, that is, for these countries, we need to explain and work with them very, very much and look for arguments how to influence them because there are many things they just don't know. well, they do for example, they did not know that ukrainian peacekeepers were in africa and that we were one of the largest countries that provided these peacekeeping contingents in africa, and that the last ukrainian peacekeeping contingent was withdrawn only in september of the 22nd year, that is , the war was already full-scale for six months and our peacekeepers were still carrying out

since 2014 , our peacekeepers have also continued their mission in the congo . there are not so many specialists from ukraine, but we spoke at the south african institute of international relations , and there we were asked a question by an employee of this institute. in sevastopol well, that's why they annexed crimea well, and he says listen well, okay , let's take this argument, which is completely ordinary and wrong

. all of ukraine well, yes, that is, they are even over this, that is, some things need to be chewed up well, with literally simple, very simple, very arguments, and you know what, again , when you read what i’m saying is that the press is free in a couple of days and that’s why well, it’s possible, the park seems like if i'm not mistaken, it has 70 or so points for freedom-house according to the last rating. that is, it is a free country, if we talk about us, then we, on the contrary, have dropped a lot in this rating, well, we had somewhere around 60 or 62 points in 2020, 60 points in 2021 -m such i was balancing somewhere now 50 and we ended up e this now we are marked as a partially free country only, and look at only 22 points, for example, political rights , 28 civil rights of freedom, and we are now between the niger and the german, who has

a better situation with political rights than us , according to the authors of this, i need to check it, but honestly, you know this for many years, i myself participated in the setting of these ratings . we must understand that these ratings are all wrong . i went to countries with a third education in africa, in particular, what are we talking about ah -ah-ah, look, it always surprised me. why, let’s say, in the ratings of freedom house and couples are ahead of ukraine, a simple explanation is because they have a british court system. yes, that is, our court, as it were known were cautionary, but they work, but if we take all the other parameters, listen, what a comparison we have, er, we really have, as it were, an alternation

of political parties in power, we have freedoms. i am not talking about social and economic rights. well listen here there is no comparison you understand when i i do not imagine how it can be a situation when a niger is above you know again well this poverty is shocking disparities this is violence this is rape in african countries and in the same south africa this is how they achieved freedom they achieved equality in terms what if the population of the leaders received all political rights, but the social and economic problems remained, and this is not only the legacy of the colonial past, this is the inefficiency

, this is the inefficiency of the new government. let's say there is a middle african class who live in their houses behind a fence with barbed wire where the drain current passes through video surveillance and there is also a ghetto that monitors it 24 hours a day because otherwise well, if your life is not guaranteed that's why we have this too once again, let's be careful about these things , we will be more careful. let's talk about ukrainian sports and the participation of russians in all kinds of international competitions, contact us zhan beleniuk, olympic champion, honored master of sports and people's deputy of ukraine , mr. genre, we congratulate you, you wrote such words the day before, you were quite outraged by what was happening, they said

that one we cannot prohibit and we shyly say that this is a matter of ethics in relation to others we say here not everything is so clear and the main thing is that there should not be a face-to-face meeting between the teams and the third we forbid to participate in competitions otherwise there will be appropriate sanctions, including the involvement of law enforcement agencies, this is actually about how they choose which of the ukrainian athletes will or will not go to which competitions. and actually it came down to judo competitions where the russians allowed russians and belarusians . i understand that fly by in this regard, look at me normally, now i can hear it, yes, everything is great , and for today, literally yesterday and today, we see the statements of three world- class judokas about the fact that they are also outraged

such a selective approach to this ban, that is, no one doubts the patriotic sentiments of our athletes, but the only thing is that when er, well, our athletes are definitely against there being any kind of double standards , if we er, agree that no one goes anywhere, then they cannot be like that history as from the national national football team, which currently takes part in the same tournament as the belarus national team, but because they do not intersect, we were told that they have the right to similar the printing stage until euro-2024 and of course this cannot help but infuriate other athletes because the world is sleeping now and the same artem lysyuk said that so-called neutral athletes do not perform in his category and at the moment he does not understand why football players can perform, but he or judokas cannot, that is, i warned

about such consequences because, well, this is what immediately strikes the eye when we read the order and see the realities that professional athletes allow themselves to perform with the russians and belarusians football players are also allowed, but athletes of the national team are not allowed. that is, it affects the essence of the wedge between understanding within ukrainian sports , you understand what the problem actually is. this is where the minister dreams in no way communicates these three statements from e -e judokas were sent directly to the ministry and to mr. minister. i saw the news today that last month he was high in the rankings among people who communicate with society about the situation in sports through

the national marathon. this was last month this month, there is no statement, the month is already ending, and it ends today, may 1, er, in april, not a single statement from the minister. well, how can it be when all the athletes are now watching and do not understand their future fate, you understand, you know, we literally turned it on again today and there is just an event in america, a representative of the fbi comes out immediately, a representative of the firemen comes out, the mayor of the city comes out. whatever it is about, there is a socially important event and a briefing is immediately held in ukraine, just so that mr. garan would say that our democracy is better than that of nigeria . okay, i hope so. well, the question is that there really is a solution that is very debatable. good site there. as far as i understand, it is about the fact that if there are russian athletes there, our athletes do not go, but in fact we see that it turns out that everything is not so simple, some go, some don't go. and the main question and who was punished in such a case, that is, russian athletes perform, and ukrainian athletes, even where they can win medals, do not even

compete with them, is that we ourselves announced a boycott, mr. yuriyovich yuriy turyanskyi, a member of the national olympic committee of ukraine, what is your position? is this a justified decision? glory to ukraine , first of all. i congratulate the whole society. the boys are fighting on the front line. and this is also the front that we have to endure. well, first of all, i categorically disagree with what was said that there is a problem with our connection with mr. yuri. well, what about the panel?

i understand that there was some categorical disagreement. well, maybe i did not see something , but you can visit the page of mr. minister and he usually publishes all his communications on his facebook page regarding this situation, not a single publication, not a single comment . i personally did not see it, maybe mr. yuriy saw it well, but there is a connection, the question is, in essence, is it a good idea or not a good idea to punish our athletes for the fact that there are russian athletes at international competitions, well, in fact , this is a punishment for ukrainian athletes for those, it is a matter of what we see here. here, there are two points of view, but simply, if this is a state decision, then it must be implemented by every subject of sports activity, it should not be that one is possible , the other is not possible, then the athletes will ask all the questions because what they don't understand. why do they watch someone play with belarusians and russians, but they didn't go

to the world cup? we see that there is such a rotten policy, for example, the whole 95 quarter does not get out of foreign tours. cultural policy as well well, the dispute is also a part of literature well, athletes are hypersensitive to such stories and they will not be able to understand exactly why this is happening , if there are any legal aspects, then it is necessary to go to the minister and explain them and report them, and not just sit around and wipe. things to talk about and could be just drunk with mr. good site, well, that's all we have, we finish our hour, but we'll be back very quickly, you too, attention, the long-awaited new product, unpack it, magnifying glasses, focus

premium legendary glasses now in a premium metal design are even more effective, reliable and stylish , order in time for only uah 499 and get another pair as a gift, you are constantly straining your eyes , use focus premium glasses, they give an increase of 160%. the glasses will always be at hand thanks to the specially designed collapsible frame and the compact case included in the set, they will fit in any pocket, light and comfortable functional and practical premium glasses perfectly fit both men and women do not strain your eyes, focus premium glasses will give a clear image with a magnification of 160%. in ordinary stores, the prices for glasses are exorbitant. and we offer you our native focus premium magnifying glasses. complete with a cover for only uah 499 and a second pair

. the body is on the sofa , how can you not turn around, you cannot find a comfortable position, you need to improve your sleeping place, meet the new product from experts mattress tv mattress stopper casper ortholight instant solution to the problem of an uncomfortable sofa or an old mattress at a favorable price for only 999 uah old sofas uneven mattresses springs that stick out all this is in the past mattress stopper ortholife your deep healthy sleep for only 999 uah this is simply incredible mattress casper ortholight qualitatively and quite inexpensively, will turn any sofa or old mattress into a comfortable bed , fill, smooth out all irregularities and defects , give you a healthy deep sleep, you don’t need a new mattress or even new furniture because the casper ortholight mattress stopper is a ready-made optimal solution from the tv mattress experts, thanks to the high-density fins with orthopedic properties, the mattress evenly distributes pressure, adapts to the contours of your

body and provides excellent support. elastic bands are provided. it is so convenient. the casper ortholight stopper mattress is suitable for both a double bed and a regular bed, as well as a sofa and even a chair-bed or a sofa, because the choice is yours. several standard width sizes and two length options. you will also choose your mattress perfectly. it is a great solution for furnishing a dormitory or a rented apartment. it can be folded and easily transported. and it is also a full-fledged additional sleeping place. just spread the mattress stopper on the floor . expensive mattresses, order the casper ortholight stopper mattress at a special promotional price of only 999 uah mattress - casper ortholight stopper your healthy sleep and instant

furniture renewal at a good price, call it is difficult to stand up and climb the stairs old injuries and sprains constantly remind of themselves with sharp pain you need help, the knee brace moves easily, a reliable assistant for the joints, order right now with a discount for only uah 199, it will fix tightly , reduce stress and tension and significantly improve the blood knee brace moves easily and provides incredible lightness and comfort of movement , the secret is in three-dimensional fixation of the knee joint and reliable support of the muscle of the skeleton. see how easy it is to use. put the knee pad on your leg and fasten it tightly with velcro straps. the knee pad will provide you with maximum comfort and support, and thanks to the special fabric , the knee pad moves easily. it has an additional micromassage and warming effect. -at what age , feel the joy of movement without pain, call and order a knee brace, move easily

for only uah 199, call high-quality dishes from unpack tv set of enameled banquet pans five pans with lids only from uah 999 in the store you will pay more than uah 700 for one pan and we offer you a set of five pans only from uah 999 that is less than uah 200 per pan set of painted banquet pans what a practical housewife needs, it includes pans with volumes of one, one and a half, two, three and four liters , cook porridge, stew stew and meat, cook compotes and borscht, and not only cook, but also store food , banquet pans are made of high-carbon steel and covered with two with layers of enamel, dishes in them turn out to be very fragrant and nothing burns, and they are also so convenient to store, and the right colors with traditional decor will give you a good mood and a healthy appetite