[000:00:00;00] the new format is called the verdict program serhii rudenko we have literally 40 seconds of our daughters together with oksana, so some important news for the last news, but i hope that i don't know today's news, but i hope that tomorrow the news will be better and this night will be much calmer for all of us than the previous one yes, the minister of defense of ukraine said that we have prepared a reserve for a counteroffensive, in particular , it is about projectile starvation, well, now the verdict serhiy rudenko, let's watch it together glory to ukraine, this is a program, the verdict, my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today, may 1, 432 days of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers, tonight the russians launched a massive attack on ukraine from the caspian

sea and the zamur region, two tu-169 tu-95 planes fired 18 missiles on ukrainian territory, these planes can drop significantly more missiles, as they say in the air forces of the armed forces of ukraine, the reason is that there are so few missiles. that the russians are economical if it is appropriate in this case to treat the use of combat missiles on the bakhmutsky and in the mariinsky directions, battles with the russians are sometimes taking place at a distance of up to 50 m. the road of life to bakhmut is not cut off, the ukrainian military will report , meanwhile, the russian army continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine, as of the morning of may day, russia has already lost 190,000,960 people in ukraine only in the last day, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 450 turks with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost 3,700

tanks in ukraine, 7,192 armored fighting vehicles, 2,921 artillery systems, 544 rocket launcher systems , 295 anti-aircraft weapons of defense 38 aircraft 294 helicopters 5,845 units of automotive equipment 18 ships boats 932 cruise missiles 2476 drones - 359 units of special equipment so a missile attack on ukraine panic in the kremlin on whose side is the pope well and on his side alexander luka we know and what and how he now he is speaking and articulating his thoughts on the russian-ukrainian war, we will talk about all this for the next hour, i want to introduce today's first guest - he is a politician, people's deputy of ukraine

, former head of the security service of ukraine valentin nalyvaichenko p valentin good day good health to you thank you for joining our broadcast congratulations glory to ukraine glory to the heroes let's start with the massive shelling of the russian federation because for quite a long time russia has not carried out massive strikes on ukrainian territory, within literally a week we witnessed the three biggest massive strikes on ukraine missile strikes resulting in the death of dozens of people injured hundreds of people e-e residential buildings destroyed civilian infrastructure destroyed this night in within three days, they launched a massive attack on ukraine by firing 18 missiles, the e-forces of the lppo destroyed 15 of them, valentin , what is this activity of the russians connected with the fact that they expect

a counteroffensive from the armed forces of ukraine or do they want to intimidate the ukrainians? that is, it is connected with their by strength or by their fear or weakness, this is connected to mr. sergius, first of all, by the fact that already 15 months of a full-scale war unleashed by russia, and in fact russia is losing, losing and losing in various areas and on the front and on those even where their propagandists are promoting what is supposedly possible some russian success there, even bakhmut, others, likewise, no advancement, and on the contrary, the armed forces of our armed forces stop and destroy , moreover, there are certain successes in the avdiiv direction of our armed forces, and all this forces the aggressor, and above all putin, to demonstrate to his russians his own, if you want, even to the electorate that at least he has something left here, at least something and there are those old soviet planes

, you call them absolutely correctly 95 and others that are from soviet times, which you already know are at the limit of technical capabilities, they have been around for a long time i didn't prepare the service. but again, with a terrorist goal, and for the second time in the last three days, they are shelling ukraine in a terrorist manner, and they are shelling like any terrorist, uh, targets or not, just to make sure that the missile reaches populated areas , that is, the cities of ukraine, well, a strike, for example, on uman on the place of pilgrimage of hasidic pilgrims from all over the world. i think that an attack on peaceful cities cannot be called anything other than religious terrorism, and ukraine is a ukrainian woman from the kyiv region and our native dnipro and

many other cities of ukraine, these are all those goals terrorists who would send rockets with one goal only to intimidate the ukrainians and the second to show in russia in your electorate, as always turned on atrocities, and the very interesting forces of russian propagandists that the war is supposedly going according to some plan of theirs, it is nothing but valentyn's missile terrorism in this case, is it possible to state that putin has nothing to lose, he is actually hitting and hitting civilian infrastructure in cities even more actively, although we saw that in the first months of the war, it was civilian cities and civilian infrastructure and civilians suffered the most from missile strikes from e actions of the russian army. but then there was still hope that at some point the russian leadership would stop there, or the opposition tried to create a corridor for some negotiations and say that well, let

's not cut down, let's all get off work ends let's do it in such a way that we will create conditions in order to preserve putin's face, is it necessary to talk about putin's face now or is it already clear and what is he in principle well, he understands that there is no turning back for him. he just needs to go forward and forward - this means further destroying ukraine . the only thing i can say for sure is that there are no opportunities that putin had at the beginning of the war, they were destroyed by the armed forces of ukraine, territorial defense and our entire resistance of ukraine and the anti -putin coalition, secondly, putin no longer has the economic power of those huge financial reserves and those excess profits that they received before the war for trading in gas, oil

and other energy carriers, thirdly, putin does not have no more armored vehicles or modern aviation, and even with those terrorist missiles that are still trying to attack us, putin himself is also a problem. therefore, the whole world understands and believe me as a member of the ukrainian parliament. we are in contact with our international partners every day, all our international partners understand that the war was waged and waged by one man. putin waged and wages war against ukraine, but this time we must clearly say that, first of all, we are not alone, the anti-putin coalition has not compared, it works most effectively especially under the support of the armed forces of ukraine, and secondly - the armed forces of ukraine themselves delivered , as he believes, nail-biting blows to the defeat of the russian armed forces, and the fact that it is strategically possible is still not felt, but on the battlefield at the front, at the front, it is very, very

noticeable and the mood is especially among of the military of the russian federation, especially among the mobilized, this is a clear testimony that the ukrainian military power has stopped them and is destroying them, and everyone already understands this, but one person in russia, that is president putin, continues this war , and he is the one who gives the orders, and by the way, i wanted to e p sergey, i always hear before your broadcasts the statistics of absolutely objectively lost armored personnel carriers by russian aviation, i would add as many self-destructions as self-losses on the territory of russia and modern planes and those missiles that we do not launch, they do not reach, they simply fall on the territory of the russian federation, this is at least 10% of the so-called non-combat losses, this all proves only one thing that the russian military machine is damaged, falling apart, unable to carry out those orders of putin, which he

sold, continues to provide, but for us, for of our armed forces, of course, the most important thing is to receive more modern weapons systems from the anti-putian coalition, especially against air missile defense , on the patriot, the first ones have already arrived on combat duty, these are radars, this guidance station , and the most important thing is missiles that destroy russian terrorist missiles, well, for our tv viewers, it will be it is interesting, but each petri system has up to 16 missiles to be released for destruction if the russians attack our sky and ukraine at night, and each such missile, think about it 5 m 20 cm long, this is a serious weapon, it is a very expensive weapon, and it is clear that with the acquisition of such weapons and trained ukrainian soldiers , we become even stronger, and therefore the enemy is weaker, e.p. valentine, you already mentioned putin and how he acts and what he literally does

a few days ago, in an interview with one of the journalists, president zelenskyi said that he thinks that, after all, putin is acting completely consciously and there is no need to think about the fact that putin is some kind of inadequate, that he is an absolutely cold-blooded killer who is waging this war and he makes decisions, fully aware of the consequences and understanding that he is destroying ukraine, ukrainian cities, killing people , according to you, this is the topic of what the kremlin’s grandfather said , he is not quite adequate, something is wrong with his head, something is wrong with him, or he ca n’t this is to be a russian epsot in order to protect, conditionally speaking, from the jurisdiction of putin, or you can always say well, he was in some kind of inadequate , he has some problems with the bridges or with

his head, and they say that this is all a consequence of what what he did and in this case, if the russian side insists on this, then the other participants in this war and the organizers, the initiators , will they in this case be just as liable as vladimir putin, they are already liable, there is already an arrest warrant and in putin himself and their so-called or writers of children's russian, this is already a warrant at last and it is already 120 countries even more and this already has the consequence that they cannot go anywhere even to their so-called past allies allies even to some you brics or other international events where earlier he at least possibly planned everything, the end is an arrest warrant, an international arrest warrant, and this is the first and not the last warrant, i predict, and we are doing everything for this to create

an international tribunal according to a resolution by a un decision and such an international tribunal will be created in the near future, i can cite as a concrete example of another step towards a meeting in such an international tribunal this is yesterday's vote at the un where 122 countries supported strengthened cooperation between the un and the council europe i would like to remind you that the council of europe is a european institution and a serious international european organization that supports all legal actions, including arrest warrants for putin and his cronies . neither the russian military leadership nor the political one. but at the same time, if you ask me what will actually happen at the top of russia, i predict that the further collapse, first of all, of the russian economy and

the army, which is being destroyed by our armed forces, will lead to the internal ones are no longer cracks, but mutual wars of mutual destruction, and it is clear that one of the possible scenarios of the scenarios is you yourself mutiny in the kremlin and the destruction of putin himself by his closest one with one of his closest entourage the environment is what we predict and we see and most of the western intelligence agencies analyzing the internal processes taking place in the russian federation, that is why, by the way , putin is now so desperately strengthening the stalinist punitive regime inside russia and it is specified by bills that are essentially his own the party, that is, he brings in the house and votes are aimed only at one thing, to punish all those who disagree, to intimidate all those who doubt and destroy everyone at whom he points the finger, this is the agony that is going on, uh, such

a serious chasm and the agony inside, i repeat russia itself and those who is considered to be the top there, i think all this is now accelerating, firstly , the collapse of the putin regime itself, and secondly , the replacement of putin himself with the leadership of russia p valentin, you have already given about the meeting of brik contemporaries of the association, which will be held in august 2023 to the republic of south africa, literally for the past few weeks the president of the republic of south africa has been trying to find a solution and how putin should fly to the pair and as already reported by the south african e-e edition of this newspaper the government of the republic of south africa informally warned russia that it will be forced to arrest the russian dictator by order of the international criminal court because, er, the president of the couple talked about the fact that, yes, we are participants

in the international criminal court, but what if putin will come, no one will touch him, according to your opinion, what still needs to happen and in what way in order for the rest of the world, which is still inclined or at least trying to make contact with putin's regime, to recognize or at least treat putin like this how are war criminals treated? i confirm that the republic of south africa and other transit countries have confirmed that they will comply with the decision of the hague court, that is, the prosecutors, and will finally carry out the warrant if putin is in the air, at sea or on land.

to move , that's why he refused to go to any international summits. they were building something similar in turkey, even for such an event, not far away. it would seem that , while the president rodogan is there , relations are normal, but he was afraid to go even to this event, but what is really serious and what will be able finally if you want to close and break the regime of putin. this is the position of china, when india is quite serious and large countries from the point of view of economic potential, and in fact , now they are the only countries that buy russian oil and not only, although with it er, the limited ceiling set by international stations is not higher than 600 dollars per barrel, but i predict and believe that it is china that is very important to us that it not only recognizes our

territorial integrity and sovereignty with in 1991, he also joined the anti-putin coalition and joined efforts to stop putin and russian aggression against ukraine, as well as india, which hesitates quite often. it is very important for us to stop hesitating and take a clear and understandable position in accordance with the un charter and support for the territorial integrity of ukraine as soon as these two countries, the largest trade partners of russia at this time, decide and support the cessation of russian aggression in the war, the end of both putin and his economy and his regime, mr. valentin of the internal front and to the internal enemies of ukraine to collaborators and to those people who cooperate or have cooperated with the russian federation the security service of ukraine has collected the evidence base on the former people

's deputy from oleg voloshin kyiv fled from ukraine and before the full-scale invasion he is accused of two articles - this article 111, part one, treason, article 125 , part one, intentional infliction of minor bodily harm, the sbu came to the conclusion that during 2020-21, he actively contributed the leadership of the russian federation to carry out large-scale subversive activities against ukraine, while according to the counterintelligence data of the sbu, voloshyn purposefully manipulated the public opinion of ukrainian citizens in the interests of the aggressor country, and by the way, oleg voloshyn began his diplomatic career by working in moscow at the russian embassy in the ukrainian embassy in russia, back in the days of konstantin hryshchenko in the embassy , ​​he was an attaché of the russian embassy according to

your why are there so few cases from the sbu regarding public figures who in one way or another contributed to the arrival of putin on ukrainian soil, because we know that he remains in the parliament, people who openly called for cooperation or some kind of negotiations with putin , even whole planes flew with delegations and waited there to be welcomed by the kremlin, and most of these people remained in ukrainian politics , although some escaped yes, i believe that now , especially with the beginning of full-scale aggression , there is nothing to panic, there should be no double standards, there is nothing to expect, if you ask. voted we vote for the first deprivation of the mandates of any collaborators, and from any political forces, i mentioned that there were

collaborators from other factions in the psg, and even from the members of the people's deputies of those factions, no matter what faction it is, what party mandate the collaborator does not have for him - the first place is not a place in the verkhovna rada , the second place on the dock, i advocate and support that not only we deprive the mandates, not only you ukrainian journalists reveal the truth about such collaborators and traitors, but also that evidence and cases against such collaborators and traitors ended up in ukrainian courts, moreover, i am in favor of open trials and harsh sentences for each specific collaborator, and in fact i believe that it is precisely through sentences, precisely through punishments and confiscation of everything they stole from ukraine and the ukrainian people that we must demonstrate the purification of both politics and the economy and business and any sphere of ukrainian life, it is precisely for this that the armed forces are fighting, that is

, now there is no apology at all if there is a call, now there is no understanding at all why there are no sentences for the top officials, i speak out, i repeat, for such sentences to be public and in courts. by the way, in moldova, the vice-chairman of the pro-russian party shor maryna taobar was detained . i understand that moldovans still want and prefer to fight with pro-russian forces , since medvedev and other leaders of the russian federation they say that moldova could be the next victim after ukraine, and that's why they decided to fight in advance. but we had and still have a very large fifth column in the form of a branch of the russian orthodox church in in ukraine, before the new year, the sbu quite often showed a chronicle of operational filming of how they conduct searches of moscow

priests and those who do not work in the ukrainian orthodox church. this is the legal name of this branch of the russian orthodox church, but since march 29, a monk of the lviv lavra members of the uoc should have left this abode, but they were staying there, or according to you, the state should make greater efforts to ban the russian branch of the russian orthodox church or limit it in some rights or to help the monks find another place and take them out or to arrange a departure from kyiv to the pechersk lavra , or does the state need help here, or is the legislative framework and law enforcement forces sufficient to derail this operation and not

turn it into a struggle for the uoc mp in ukraine is in an internal civil war because we know a lot of parishioners go to the uoc mp church, the first and most important thing is the state , first of all, the parliament, the president and the government should not just help, but do everything possible so that in ukraine there is finally a single local industrial church was created, the orthodox church of ukraine received a tomos from the ecumenical patriarchate, and it is this church that the first parliament should help by passing a law, and i am serious about this. sometimes in order to establish by law once and for all the status that there is a single local church of ukraine operating on the territory of ukraine throughout the territory of ukraine, all other

churches are those that are even temporarily rented occupied churches, lavras, monasteries, we believe that they would have all this property transferred to the orthodox church of ukraine , the only noticeable thing is what the parliament should do, secondly, what should the government do, the ministry of culture and the government are the managers of all property that is leased by any denomination in ukraine therefore, all orthodox conferences. as in the place of the government, i have long promoted the transfer of property, land plots, etc., for the local orthodox church of ukraine, everything can and should be done publicly without unnecessary conflicts. but along with the dash, with that, and thirdly, i am really in favor of banning the moscow church in ukraine, especially after they supported and continue to support the russian

aggression of bombing the very peaceful parishioners of peaceful hasidic christians who have not yet been bombed by russian rockets. well, how can the church of christ, which is being bombed department to justify this bombing and the bombing of the killing of civilians, i will repeat citizens, moreover, both christians, jews and muslims are not the church, and therefore such organizations, first of all , should not be called a church, and secondly ban once and for all well, the third third is the most important thing in the time has come and at the level of the president, the government, and the parliament, everyone should speak out and support the orthodox church of ukraine so that it is a single policy, a single position and a single church in our country, mr. valentin, who is the ambassador to ukraine in belarus , i will also ask about lukashenka about lukashenka is obviously betting on officials, judging by the

rhetoric he sounds . vlad took strict measures in management and discipline and said that no law enforcement officers should interfere with this. well, that is, he chose his vector, on whom to rely, well, at least i understand that he is also preparing for some kind of confrontation with putin in the event of the latter's defeat in the russian-ukrainian war, let's see what and how lukashenko says, the cadre decides everything , the leader should have the power of the iron and they should not look at anyone, not only law enforcement agencies should not prevent the leader from managing his territory to enterprises and to take measures, the measures must be military

, the strictest, do not wait for individuals, and the basis of everything is discipline . well, of course, the self-proclaimed president met with the people, he says he does not want to fight. well, of course, belarusian television showed how he seems to love the people. dropped, they are starting to talk about the war for you, oleksandr, friends, i invite you, but i want to say good health to you , so that there would still be a president of the mno, and we

congratulated you, that is, for life if not he will sit, at least he will sit in the presidential chair, judging by this rhetoric, what do you say about lukashenka's current behavior, is he trying in some way to distance himself from putin, lukashenko solves two issues, including video plots , in fact, the first is to preserve his power and stay and all that he has invested in the mouth of the woman who performed it or voiced it in the video that you partially showed, but secondly, what lukashenko is doing now is really desperately demonstrating to putin that the belarusians themselves did not support and do not support war, so somehow he wants to at least distance himself from the war that putin will lose from the aggression for which putin and his regime will be sentenced to gas and from the aggression of the war

that will destroy and eventually destroy the russian economy and the regime itself, at the expense of which it survives until at this time, the lukashenko regime , i mean putin, gas and so on, loans and lukashenko, who receives that russian gas for almost nothing, but also constantly applies for additional loans, because the economy of belarus, belarus is also under sanctions and in principle cannot survive under such a government and under such a regime that currently exists in belarus, here are two things, two tasks that lukashenko solves with such plots and such policies. thank you, mr. valentin, for the conversation . we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks , in particular on facebook. well, we are praying now on the youtube channel for those who are now watching us