[000:00:00;00] it is really important to pay defenders. but is it discussed at rate meetings, let's say at meetings of the national security council or in any other format, or was it discussed at some level? how is it possible to decently ensure the payment of defenders of the state where it is an extremely sensitive issue and you know that those military personnel who directly accept participation in hostilities is completely different for them, uh, financial support and sons 30,000 is completely different money, but we are talking about those people who are directly in the performance of combat tasks when it comes to people , it is about people who are far away from the front line, located in the territories where hostilities are not taking place .

the discussion in which way all this should be done, you hear it was more than that, i am more than sure that our military will not be offended by the payments that will be provided to them by the state, because today what concerns these 30,000, that is, the verkhovna rada has these questions to decide, but we have an understanding that there is also a budget, there is an understanding that if the deputies make this or that decision, they should cling to hunting where to take it, everything should be calculated . necessarily those people who are at the front directly on the front line they will receive a completely different salary well, those people who today are conditionally studying in one or other institutions that are related to our military to the ministry of defense, well, to be at

training to receive 30,000 for how much is it fair well, it's difficult for me ugu p oleksii the pope of rome announced a peacekeeping mission in ukraine says that he has already discussed the situation in ukraine with the prime minister of hungary horban and metropolitan rpczei larion during his recent visit to budapest what do you know about such an initiative, with whom he leads this mission? well, how exactly does it fit into the model of no negotiations regarding ukraine without ukraine ? they answered i don't know, i respect the pope , of course, to the position until the age does this person have the elements in mind that if someone thinks that behind our backs it is possible to negotiate and we will swallow it and make some kind of ready-made decision, i have repeatedly said that we have a fairly healthy civil society and any decision regarding this war requires understanding what should agromat give for all these things of our civil

society, if it is unfair, we will never be able to accept it with you and not because we are bad or good there, because we understand what honor is, what dignity is, and what is justice especially after such a bloody war waged by the russian federation. does parimsky know who he is communicating with or whether there was any communication with the ukrainian authorities at all? regarding this peace initiative, it is difficult for me to say what kind of initiative for the seventh floor , no one is going to negotiate with anyone. do you know that there is a proposal regarding our she understood the president, but for the whole world there are four other key positions , and the borders of 1991. well, criminal punishment for all those who took part in this full compensation for all the damages that the russian federation has caused in relation to our country. this is the guarantee of security for our country. there are four positions that are unchanged and no one

is going to change them today. the fact that this protracted war, which the kremlin is imposing on the world and its audience, is not a given ; the united states, in particular, can influence it so that this war does not drag on for years or even decades, but taking into account the constant fears of western politicians that there will be an alleged escalation on the part of moscow, do you think the west has a desire to end this war with a ukrainian victory as soon as possible? well, actually, at this stage, how realistic is it to predict a shortening of the terms, here it is necessary to understand what we have with you under by phrase protection protection of different because he is not popular we have partner countries that help us united states great britain canada baltic countries poland other countries germany france last

sometimes they began to give us a lot of help in this war against the russian federation. there are countries that still, relatively speaking, look like they are from around the horn. how did it all end? so , i emphasize once again what concerns our country, without us it would not have been possible to decide what regarding the situation related to the russian federation, they have a great desire to end this war on their terms, but once again he emphasizes on their terms that we cannot go with you at all, mr. oleksiy , just now the editors are telling me that people who watch us on youtube ask what do you think will be the most painful loss , which direction, which ukrainian territories will be the most painful loss for russia, i don't know why they should be hurting for our land , our land is hurting us, here we are

when we lost a part of our territory, unfortunately, this is what happened. for us it hurts , for them it will hurt in a completely different way. let's wait and see how events will unfold. to move to the maximum active combat operations on the territory of our country, he made a huge mistake. and this will all end in a situation where the situation ends with the fragmentation of russia and on this has already been affected . it is impossible. he goes about this launched and then they can already complain there or not complain, it will already be theirs the fact is that they are exactly within the limits that they existed before the start of the war on february 24, they will no longer exist, mr. oleksiy, and almost six hundred citizens of ukraine found themselves under sanctions after the full-scale invasion of this state watch, more than half of such analysis is carried out by members of the so-called election commissions, there are churchmen, there are collaborators, but among the top politicians there are only

six of them, e. of the state, because this is according to the law on sanctions. but this is provided for those who came under restrictions after february 24. what prevents the re-imposition of sanctions on those famous politicians who were under them earlier, the same azarov aksionov v pasichnik well, the evidence of their work in russia is more than enough. i think that in the near future you will see all these processes because, er, the relevant institutions do not stop their work, but in us, er, something has changed in the legislation already during the free legislator, the legislation has changed, we are on today we are already making a decision of our defense security council regarding sanctions regarding all persons regarding some. now all this is happening at work. wait , it will not be long. believe me, everyone will be held responsible according to our legislation.

including independently, well, actually, the swan about whom i mentioned is the ex-minister of defense during yanukovych's time, and sanctions were imposed on him twice, which actually allows confiscation of his property for the benefit of the state, but again, from this report, we need an aggressor from a group of analysts who carries out the monitoring of sanctions against the aggressor , i found out to my surprise that, for example , rabinovych bogatyreva is not under ukrainian sanctions at all in portnov, why is it that we have a procedure , that is, there are relevant bodies, the place of the security service , the cabinet of ministers, the verkhovna rada, it is they they have to offer it for conducting sanctions and have the legal right to do so, they submit the relevant documents to the security and defense operator, we work them out in the appropriate way, put them to the vote, and as soon as the vote takes place, the president issues the relevant decrees, there is a lot of work, you see that every friday, the president issues the relevant decrees until it is his turn, and

it will be mandatory for the persons you listed. for example, today our colleagues from the project did not publish the material today, our colleagues from the project scheme found out that the company under the sanctions of friedman, who owns several large companies in ukraine, is still cooperating with the ministry of defense of the russian federation , and they turned to the ministry of justice there promised to pass on information to law enforcement agencies about how the business of russian businessmen in ukraine currently functions, what are its scales and whether sanctions are being developed against them, in particular against friedman. are there any plans to confiscate some property. you are right. today the president had a big meeting on this matter. i can't emphasize now who we are talking about, but believe

me, today we will say this about certain people, about a certain company. it was discussed on the president's radio in the presence of the minister. of justice, the head of the security service of ukraine, other officials who are related to this process, and today we discussed this issue in the office of the president, what more will we hear later, and mr. oleksiy, what can't he actually from the exchange of all to all and what do you know about the preparation for such an exchange? what in general depends on the success of such an exchange ? first of all, it depends on the desire of the russian federation . we understand that it should be not only the desire of our side, but also the russian federation in this, he must take part. take part because this is not an act that we can do on our own. there are very difficult negotiations on this matter, but this is directly dealt with, including

the main administration of the intelligence of our country, they are responsible for this process and every time we take away our prisoners is a great victory, there is a team that works in this direction, it somehow affects the future counteroffensive of ukraine, or vice versa , the future counteroffensive of ukraine can affect this exchange process. i think that these are related related things, i would i would like one thing for all our boys and girls who have found themselves on the territory of the russian federation against their will , for them all to return home. oleksiy again, from what our viewers are asking in the chat, which direction is the most difficult now except for the well-known bahmut, where the russian servicemen are currently attacking the most . let's say that there are directions where it's not difficult . if it's the front, it's definitely difficult. if it's not difficult today, it will be difficult tomorrow

. if it's the same again understanding what the difficulty is at the front, if you are on the front line, you are always fine, it is always difficult for him. from morning to evening and 24 hours a day, these are real heroes, and it is difficult everywhere else, the intensity is where it is more, where it is less, but this is the process, if it is quiet today , god forbid, tomorrow it will not be quiet because this is not a foreseen situation when the enemy can start shelling, they can to begin to initiate certain actions on our military are ready for any development p oleksiy thank you for joining the broadcast oleksiy danilov secretary of the nsdc was in direct contact with us thank you

numerous statements about the future counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine became the reason an increase in the number of appeals from russian soldiers regarding surrender. in the project i want to live, they report that the peak of appeals to the hotline came in march . how does this one-of-a-kind call center work? exchange and not even return home after the end of the war, further answers in the exclusive material of radio svoboda correspondent taras levchenko, russian soldiers

can surrender not only on the battlefield, but even before sending to the front in ukraine thanks to a single message or call, this audio recording, like several others of radio svoboda, was provided by the employees of the project i want to live, the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, the corresponding call center works under the seal of secrecy and we managed to communicate with one of the operators there, on the condition that we hide her face and voice told since september together with the team received up to a hundred such appeals every day. we even underwent certain psychological training at the beginning of the project, primarily in order to get their mental health is in a normal state because ah well, we can't forget that we are talking to the enemy continuously on the line, the employees of such a call center have to spend 8 hours a day on their task of collecting data and passing it on to colleagues from of the special services that are already working on the front line, this is probably

another fate of fear that we will pass the information somewhere to russia, that you have such a cool army there, and the colonel is fighting , or is there something else, they don't even have the right to report the rank, the wife is close, the hands are from the ukrainian of the state for 30 hours in the svoboda rossii region, how will the russian military or their relatives find out about the project if its resources are blocked at home by the national supervisory service, first of all, word of mouth radio is working and campaigning is on the front lines , we had sms, we had campaign messages, yes so-called projectiles, where 1,500 leaflets are placed in each projectile, they explode - explode over the positions and these leaflets

fall over a wide area, it is also possible to drop the same leaflets from drones, but we also use drones to help those who seem to go to the safe zone will receive up to 10 per game, these soldiers are afraid not in ukraine, but at home, because the supreme court of justice interpreted voluntary surrender as a crime in war, despite this , in march of this year, in the project i want to live , the peak of appeals from russian servicemen was recorded, there were more of them than 3000 there was a case when a father called and his son and his family stayed in the crimea , they were forced to stay there because there is a small child in the family and the father - he is such an old man he said that that they mobilized their son and they don't know what to do, they were very sorry for the man because

he really has no way out, he cries and he always cries somehow in the end this story was resolved, which you tell so successfully, but not every story ends like this, because before sending to mobile phones can be taken from those mobilized at the front, and this applies not only to residents of crimea, but also to luhansk and donetsk regions, who have been forcibly mobilized into the russian army for more than a year. vitaly matvienko - an employee of the coordination headquarters with issues of treatment of prisoners of war and speaker projects i want to live joins our broadcast p vitaly my a-a greetings good evening i congratulate you please tell me is there any average portrait let's say this of russian soldiers who surrender themselves as prisoners or are there certain patterns who are these people yes there is how as a rule, it is somewhere between 25 and 35 years old, these people

, in principle, have a very, let's say, head on their shoulders, er, they may not be directly in opposition to their government, but they perfectly understand what kind of country they live in. they have their own there a small business or quite prestigious professions and perfectly understand that their state and their leadership can throw them into a war in ukraine where they can be destroyed. that is, these are exactly the people who want to live, who understand what war is and what grief their state brings to the territory of ukraine for of the ukrainian people. are there any provocations after they allegedly voluntarily want to lay down their arms and called, sent a message to the chatbot, and then changed their minds about what kind of provocations they are and how often they happen? well, i can tell you the following that, in principle, for part of the project's existence, we did not have such direct provocations that could somehow harm us, or were there some ambushes, there were uh, directly in

the project i want to live, we did not have such a team, a team of very professionals is assembled and all operations are worked out individually and it is very painstaking so that there are no ambushes, so that there are no grounds , if we feel something that may be, uh, not going as planned, then such an operation can simply be canceled or postponed. well, if we talk about the total number in general the number of such appeals. since the beginning of the project, they have heard that the alleged peak came in march and this is connected with the probable counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine. do they explain it themselves or are they asked about it? and perfectly understand how it can end for them, so their main goal there is to save their lives. and our project is just perfect for this. they can really

save their lives by being in the camp for alive, unharmed, fed prisoners of war have the possibility of contact with their relatives, the possibility of medical care, the possibility of staying on the territory of ukraine, asking for asylum, or in some european countries , they can ask for an exchange there after the war, for example, that is, they have a lot of such bonuses and privileges as for those who seems to be voluntary, you mentioned the bonuses and privileges that they are fed and count on medical assistance if needed, how much does one ukrainian prisoner of war cost the state on a day, let's say. well, i'll tell you. yes, as for the cost of keeping a prisoner of war of the russian federation in our pursuit, the price is much lower than the price of our soldier who is at the front. the more russian soldiers surrender, the better it will be for us as a whole

, but this figure you can't, i can't give you the number, but i know that ukraine completely provides for the reception of all prisoners of war of the russian federation. among the russians who called in advance , those who surrender of the project, i want to live, as i said. they have the right to choose, they can ask for an exchange in the near future or after the end of the war, and those who surrender there on the battlefield have different conditions when they seemed interesting, the rank of those who surrendered, what was the highest rank among those who surrendered, i will tell you. yes, we have such cases in units that surrendered, and among them there were also officers and cadres, officers , that is, who is the highest there, for now we will not voice it, there will be an opportunity for us to voice it

. is it true that you mentioned that they have the right to choose about the exchange is it true that the military of the russian federation can refuse the exchange and after the end of the war stay in ukraine because they wrote and such and go to a third country in general there to choose germany or the netherlands so and so option they have but this option is valid only for those who surrendered under our project, they can ask for political asylum in ukraine or in other european countries, which they said were germany or the netherlands, but this will be possible only after it is proven that they did not participate in war crimes and their conscience is absolutely clear before the ukrainian people, then they have such an opportunity and ukraine will consider the possibility of staying there on the territory of ukraine .

freedom and independence of ukraine and then to win back the territory of russia from putin's regime. they have such an opportunity , they can take advantage of the freedom of russia legion . that ukraine is getting closer to the exchange of all for all can you talk about some numbers now? well, actually, how far we are progressing in this matter, i will tell you the words of mr. bohdanov, it is worth believing and we are really getting closer and we are ready for everyone, not everyone, as far as numbers are concerned, we we cannot announce them yet for security reasons. well, but in connection with the fact that counterattacks are tormenting us, the number of appeals to us is increasing, if we even take march and april, in march we had a little more than three thousand appeals per month, then in april this number grew by 10%.

and today it is more than 16,000 for the entire period of the project, if we take, for example, visits to our website, then for the entire period, the site was visited by 36 and 4 million e-e visitors and e-e visits and of them 32 million are from the territory of the russian federation, that is the number is quite large and we see interest in the project directly from the citizens of the russian federation or those who are still mobilized or those who are already mobilized, they want to save their lives , they can use our project to save my life to return home alive and whole and not injured, and at the same time of course there will be much less of them at the front, which is also very much more precisely, it is possible, plus they started p vitaliy thank you very much for joining the broadcast vitaliy matvienko, representative of the coordination headquarters for prisoners of war, thank you well, then there are materials from the bakhmut

area from the correspondent of the radio liberty project, the time is coming , the long-awaited heat has arrived in donbas, the dirt roads that were impassable may dry up in the near future, which means that one of the of the hottest areas of the front, bakhmutsky may soon become even hotter, we are in the positions of the paratroopers of the 80th brigade of the armed forces of ukraine, the strategic direction, the situation is tense against them, he is constantly trying to find weak points in the defense, he is constantly uh, well , i hope that somewhere someone will forgive, where someone will weaken, some position will sink or that the soldiers will somehow neglect all their duties and they will be able to make some kind of breakthrough, that is, to advance and want to take these territories, the direction is strategic because we

are standing on the road that goes to bahmut, that is breaking through all our positions will mean cutting off all logistical routes to bakhmut. this road is the key to bakhmut. this is how the artillerymen of the 80th brigade cover the road to bakhmut so that russian units cannot approach it unexpectedly. the team takes cover. it must have decided to make a living. now it is quickly retreating under the couch, well, in the shelter, in the shelter, the guys immediately, and what happened to the enemy drone , the regular situation, we are trying to in first of all, to preserve the personnel well, of course, they are means so that they do not detect us, maximum camouflage, a russian drone hovers over ukrainian positions , a ukrainian one over russian ones, here they are, this is

the front edge, their front edge, and on which we also fire, accordingly, we directly support our assault units, surrender them they impressions well, let's keep it a nightmare so that we don't relax, the entire front line is plowed over with the snares of any technique. it's not the same. no, we're not the enemy, we can't use technique these are the directions where we can destroy the enemy with anti-tank weapons. likewise, the enemy can destroy our equipment with anti-tank weapons along the line of defense and where he is on infantry and war-happy artillery , the russian drone is flying away, the ukrainian artillerymen are preparing for battle again, they assure that it will not take much time and the british one will kill itself, it is very effective in seconds

, the gunner’s work charges what and if it were so fast victor points the howitzer and says that he could never imagine that he would have to do this there is a saying that he never said never i never thought that i would be an artilleryman, but today, when i evacuated my family from kyiv to lviv, the next day i went to the military commissariat and got into the brigade, having such a harmful neighbor. may god have mercy, you understand, you have to do it vasyl also went to the military commissariat in the first days of the full-scale invasion, there were childhood dreams of being a paratrooper, he came to a part of the 80s and said that i am

a nice guy. to go there and whom to turn to well, i asked them and we went in after we were recorded in one magazine that we couldn't get rid of. that's how i ended up in the ranks of the glorious 80s. the fighters say that it is the motivation to protect their relatives and the country that helps them to keep the defense and bear the burden of war and also the desire to go forward to liberate the occupied territories and end the war with victory andriy kuzakov vasyl martyshchenko oleksiy palii for radio svoboda the company of russian oligarch mykhailo fridman continues cooperation with this was found out by our colleagues from the russian ministry of defense during

a full-scale war . according to their information, several companies related to the sanctioned friedman cooperate with the ministry of defense of russia. an oligarch in ukraine for the benefit of the state, we will ask the author of the investigation, georgiy shabaya , joins the broadcast, and georgiy, good evening . my greetings. well, actually, what business of friedman can be considered such that he supports the army the russian army, directly or indirectly, and which of friedman's businesses still operates in ukraine? why is he still not under sanctions? what was the answer from the ministry of justice? so there are two friedman businesses that cooperate with the ministry of defense of the russian federation and the russian guards. we are talking about alpha insurance, which provides insurance services to units of the russian guard. which are involved in the war against ukraine, that is, they perform combat tasks there and also ensure the occupation regime in the temporarily occupied territories, we found numerous contracts, which are