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[000:00:00;00] god bless this enterprise. well , you don't understand. according to filatov, about 50 state-owned enterprises will arrive in the region. how many of them suffered losses due to the war? the department is currently collecting information. this is the team of the first channel of joint broadcasting and sign language lada sokolyuk ukrainians in tylunshe to join in helping the defense forces of ukraine this is what ovets and veteran yevgeny dyky says before if a year ago the absolute majority of ukrainians were on the same page, now it has passed, how can the zsu help each of us , my colleague olena revska spoke to yevgeny wildly, the zsu is
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, in fact, absolutely the same civilians whom this war uprooted . we must help here we must plow together with them mr. yevgeny , we welcome you to the first public broadcasting channel every year thank you for finding the time to visit us, just recently it was already the ninth anniversary of the beginning of the so-called the anti-terrorist operation has been going on for more than a year, the russian-ukrainian war is already in the format of a full-scale invasion, and i would like to start our conversation with a question about whether, in your opinion, at this stage, we can say that ukrainian society is in a state of war, that it 100% understands in general, what is going on, somehow, i don’t have it at all. it’s not surprising how i feel in this sense , only in this sense. but in this sense, a year ago it was better, but this great war really became
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a kind of shock therapy. first of all, it is very many, let's say, helped enlighten their brains and finally now understand things that were obvious to a small part of our society. well, for some 8 previous years and for some 30 and it has already changed, i think forever, but what happened a year ago and what is happening now something happened a year ago from this the stress of this shock that everyone felt from this sense of existential threat that maybe tomorrow none of us will be simple and our country will not be the own feeling of those who were at the front and the feelings of those who were even there in deep lviv they really did not differ from each other. we were all on the same emotional wave. we were all together. we all lived together. we all lived each day of this war and everyone did their own thing. someone was with a machine gun. someone brought him cartridges. the foreign country does not matter. we were
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all on the same wave. unfortunately , it happened logically . it is natural. feels, but because of this, it arises. in my opinion, it is a rather unpleasant phenomenon, we encountered it only during the eight-year-old little war , but now it is happening again, when there is such a stratification of society into two completely different groups, a society that a year ago fought together, not everyone with weapons in the hands of and at the moment it is divided into a minority that fights and a majority that cheers somewhere as much as for a football match, about how it cheers, in fact, they constantly conduct sociological measurements, and so on do ukrainians believe or not believe in victory, what kind of victory can it be? and before our conversation with you, i checked that sociology , for example, the raid group recently showed that 97% of ukrainian citizens believe in the victory of ukraine in the war with
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russia, and the question arises then, based on what you said 97% believe in a victory that will be won by someone well, actually someone they believe in victory by the way , this wording bothered me from the very beginning . the war broke out and they were assigned the most difficult role in this war, the most difficult work for those on the front, you must not trust here, you must help here, you must plow along with them, they took on the most difficult part of the work, we in the rear get an order of magnitude easier, only they materially to provide and try to support morally, but instead we just believe in them, go, boys and girls , we believe in you here, and you die there, you become crippled there, but we here believe that you will bring us victory one day, oh me it seems that er. this is what can actually deprive us of this victory from civilians to the military. i would also like to talk to
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you about what in your opinion, now more than a year after the beginning of the full-scale stage of the russian-ukrainian war , the ukrainian army needs new people are weapons, maybe it's something else , unfortunately, everything you mentioned is...we also need people. well , we have to give credit here. mobilization is taking place with certain jambs. yes, it sometimes happens there with some scandals. crooked with comical episodes when, for example, one of my friends who is fighting in bahmut now, right in the midst of the fighting in bahmut, he received a summons here in kyiv . look at this year. he has been fighting since february 24, exactly , and here he received a summons and this kind of cases. by the way, no he and i were the only ones talking at the signal there, uh, we came to the point that he would go to the ruins of the bakhmut military committee, take a picture there, at least he can be sure that the mobilization is taking place while he is in bakhmut, actually
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, laughter with laughter, despite all the separate troubles in in general, the mobilization is successful, that is, people are recruited in sufficient numbers, and then the question is how to make them into fighters of sufficient quality , that is , the question of their training. even combatants sometimes happen that on the same training ground there are now two battalions next to each other. so , one is chasing. so, where are those nato standards? they will send us the next death, it is very different, but in any case, those who are being prepared are still the majority, that is, not all of them are perfect, not all of them are there according to nato standards, someone is very sorry , well, stupidly, but still, this is not the beginning of a war when people they just threw themselves into battle in general, but it is up to you to close the gap, but there is no such thing now, everyone now has time for
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training, there is time for reconciliation . well, who is going to use this time? well, it means enough taking into account the new sets and those who are now at the front. they are really already exhausted people who have been fighting for almost a year. well, in fact, their resources are practically exhausted. therefore, it is good to adopt this law that goncharenko is passing, if i am not mistaken, that after 1, 5 years. still, giving a dembel even during the war is simply because these people will be of less benefit than risk . they are really just exhausted. but in order to be able to release those who have been fighting since the beginning of the war in a year and a half, it will be done in the fall. for this , the new ones who are being mobilized now have to go through training in the summer, and they have to get real combat experience at the front in the summer. then it will be an absolutely adequate replacement, then it will be possible to release
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those who fought on their own. evgeny. what are these global issues? now there are many people in ukraine outside of ukraine, and above all , the ukrainian army is preparing for a counteroffensive or an offensive. how did you correct me? is to what extent is the prospect of a protracted war for ukraine still realistic, unfortunately, it is very real, first of all, no one gives us a guarantee that our offensive will be successful , and this is what you need to understand: war is always two sides, each of the sides has each side is doing everything it can do, and only a real battle shows whose plans will be realized and whose plans will be covered , so let's be realistic, we have a chance for a successful offensive, but chances and guarantee are very different words, no one gave us a guarantee because everything depends not only on us, but also on the orcs, too. and only in the course of the offensive
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will we see how stubbornly and how organized they will resist, and in general, after all, being on the defensive is always easier than being on the offensive in the defense we have already learned. i would say everything in defense, we are already such that you cannot penetrate us, but such large-scale offensive operations have not yet occurred in our history. this will be the first time and there will be no guarantee of success. this will be the first time because of the apparently insufficient number of armored vehicles. with frankly insufficient amount of armored vehicles, i.e. the announced amount of western aid in the form of weapons and equipment is not enough to guarantee yes yes yes and at the same time they require success in the offensive on the front of 2400 km well , actually, to the question of how much is not enough but again, we do not get used to when this war began, there was no such thing, when this war began, they generally gave javelins - lava stingers, that is, in fact , weapons for partisans and not for the regular
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army, but still, we proved a little to western analysts that they were a little not they are right and somehow they settled down in 3 weeks, that’s why i hope that even now it is possible that the number of armored vehicles will not become limiting. another factor that can become limiting at any moment and become a big problem is the amount of ammunition . we will not discuss numbers here. knows how much we need and is trying to collect it, buy it, accumulate it. well, it is far from a fact that it will be possible and that there will be enough of everything. this is a decent hunger, in fact, no one hides that such a problem is present at the same time we in parallel, very acutely in parallel, you and i are still watching this story when in europe they cannot come to an agreement on how to ensure the outfits for yes, they are much more simply interested there. and which companies will make money from this , only european ones or not further, god , we will have to share with some there by the turks or the koreans. well, they are now working to ensure that this money remains
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within the european union. and now we need shells. so , yes. well, in the end , there is still one more key factor, i say, we don't know how they will behave. in the defense of the orcs, the insertion is extremely high. we all know perfectly well that what depends on this offensive, and if it is unsuccessful, it will become much more difficult for us in general , and then the war will be extremely prolonged, and the help of the allies will weaken, and moreover, if we are unsuccessful here, it will be very it is likely that they will leave us harshly, they will start wringing their hands, sitting at the negotiating table on freezing the conflict , this is what russia is actually trying to achieve, but at the same time, it must be understood that even if it is successful, first of all, it will be an important job which our defenders have to do and secondly, it will be paid very dearly in any case, that is, to expect this offensive with the joy of efos and this with jumping at the tv screen, when will we finally start to advance? well, to say the least, it is unethical in relation
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to those people who will have to die tomorrow in order for this offensive to be successful, but ok, let's even assume that we win, let's even assume that the next one was boxed, it also doesn't follow that the war will end immediately. even if we knock out all the orcs from our territory, it's not means that the orcs in russia will not hold another mobilization , they will not shell our territories all this time across the border, prepare for a new campaign, we are fighting a very specific enemy, admitting defeat is considered absolutely unacceptable, they believe that as soon as russian society will see that such the war is lost to the kremlin regime , that's all, in what form, there are various options, from internal rebellions to the great russian troubles , but they are so afraid of it that they will not admit their defeat, so much how much shorter and that is why it is necessary to understand that even in the case of a successful offensive, this is not at all a guarantee of a quick end to the war, simply then this war will be different, simply defending your territory from their repeated attempts to climb in
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is not at all the same as throwing them out now , after all, the most difficult task - is to throw them out of the place where they are now sitting. therefore, at the very end, i want to ask, in view of the whole set of complex factors that you described, in view of what awaits us in the near future , what are you preparing for and what are you advise our viewers to prepare, er, i always proceed from the fact that it is better to prepare for the worst, and then sometimes to be very pleasantly surprised, in fact, our greatest victories happened when i personally did not predict them, for example , er, well, for example, this is such a vivid example the very night maidan, i was absolutely convinced that we would be cleared in about 3-4 hours , i was the only one who assessed our ability to hold out at around three or four hours, but still , we had to hold out there for three or four hours. that is, well
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well, there are options when you realize that you will lose, most likely you will die, but you have to leave because otherwise you are ashamed to live, and it is precisely in such situations that we won, like in the tonic maidan, like in the spring of last year . well, they will be in kyiv in three days . well, you may have thought the same , but it’s just that we were doing the defense of kyiv accordingly . kyiv streets well, that's what we're for were preparing, and that is why, as a result, they did not even come closer to brovary, that’s how it is, and now let’s better prepare for a long, very difficult war, and for a long , difficult war with the fact that the allies , what is it now? to maintain the level is not a guarantee , so prepare as much as possible to switch to self-sufficiency on your own, let's prepare for this , and if something goes as a result
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, the best scenario is marked well, we will celebrate it, too we hope to celebrate, yevgeny. thank you very much for this conversation with the enemy . they do not agree on what they are destroying. defend your own . a year ago, russia unleashed a great war in ukraine , just like for ukrainian athletes. for me , the choice was obvious to compete for the victory of my native country on the front line instead of on the tennis court . dugouts instead of rackets in hands, weapons instead of lodon on a hotter point, indomitable bakhmut, on the other hand, russian and belarusian athletes support russia's aggression against ukraine, remain silent and continue to compete in neutral status is not given such an opportunity by the atp, and it will be a shameful decision of the president to admit athletes to the olympics with a neutral flag. however, we all
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know that he is directed by ukrainian blood , i urge you to support ukraine on the sports front, do everything possible to remove russian and belarusian athletes from of all international competitions and the olympian , the approach of silence to the terrorists on the spot is confusing to surrender not to resist. this is what the enemy wants from ukrainians, they lie to force us put down our hands, but we already know exactly how the enemy knows how to attack moscow. russian special services create accounts in social networks similar to the pages of the ukrainian military or entire units and methodically spread depressing information . feelings without a way out, therefore
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, critically perceive emotional information , check who exactly spreads it, be careful , russian invaders and their agents can do this, the psyche is protected, ukraine is protected from helicopters were flying that way, this is my country and something needs to be done, so lina is in command, the girls are packing. in my pre-war life, i was the second director in film
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production, the last series i worked on was an opera by call, against by blood, jackie london, oh no , i absolutely adore the site, i adore cinema, production, i don’t know, everyone liked what i will have to change my profession. i didn’t think at all. on february 24, at 5:30 a.m., i woke up from the explosions and saw on the horizon the first two explosions were there. this is from the side of the national guard, where the military units are, and then on the other side , we have the kyiv sea, and helicopters were flying from that side. well, it was really a big shock. my friend and colleague, the film actress natasha, called me and offered to go to her place to stay for a few days, which is , well, most likely, it will not be for long, and she has an apartment on beresteyska street, and we were staying with her. pya and then when everyone made the decision to run away, on the contrary, i made
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the decision that i was coming back, that was when i first realized that i couldn't be apart, that i couldn't run somewhere to hide, that this is my country and something needs to be done. i returned to vyshhorod on the evening of the third day and i saw my frightened neighbors. when i arrived , we started making molotov cocktails because they were pouring gasoline out of the cars, someone had oil, we found styrofoam bottles there and started making molotov cocktails. there are already many hot spots, i understand how ridiculous this is, but then it also seemed to everyone that it could help , now with experience i understand that it is even more dangerous what we did after that we already started to equip the basement here in the first days of the war we started to arrange such a storage facility, at least some kind of temporary
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one, up to forty people stayed in this basement , that is, we have three sections, and in each section from 30 to 50 people stayed at the same time, people arranged their lives well, in principle, who could the neighbor on the first floor gave out wi-fi so that there would be internet, people brought multicookers and some heaters here, in the first days people had a complete panic and there were many migrants from donbas, they added to the panic of people who did not know what was happening, they told what would be terrible and how it will happen and that is, people. well, in principle, they were afraid to even leave the basement. i feel great horror and pity for the people who suffered from this, what is happening because we all understand that people lost everything, they lost almost their lives if not physically, then everything that they earned
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, that they lived their lives, they lost in one second. my volunteering began from the first days of the war. we began to organize in our village, at first, a kind of security patrol, well, literally the next day, i went to the checkpoints where in we were around vyshhorod, i ask the boys what we need, they say hot food, i arrived, i wrote in the home chat that who can, girls, let 's cook, we will drive them, at first they started cooking, driving them to checkpoints, when active hostilities ended in the kyiv region, i there was no question of finishing with some kind of help with volunteering, since the military had left, they were no longer so close , er, we were engaged in. well, i was engaged in helping civilians, the fact that i definitely had no idea
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to go further than the kyiv region, that's right, then our colleague, a cinematographer, asked to help him, well, you can say yes to the unit that was in kharkiv, and i took to kharkiv there several thermal imagers, a generator, some plate carriers, well, there is a lot here, the first three trips were to kharkiv, and after that i started to go to donbas and continue to go already somewhere, well, the eighth month, well, that’s more than 40 trips during the entire war, on the odometer of my car, that’s plus 100,000 km, well, this is our small warehouse, where we take all the help we can find, before the war, it was a furniture restorer factory its owner serves in the 95th brigade, this is his wife , lina, she seems to have made it to me, she deals with all the distribution
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of what we have collected here for the brigades, who needs what, in what quantity. well, in principle, what do we have to distribute among the boys? first, we let's load the automatic offices right at the end, because they are sticky, then the 109th, the 95th, and there we have an individual transfer to andriy to kramatorsk, it will be the first to be loaded at the moment, uh, it's getting harder to collect help for the guys, first of all, people who are at the beginning of a full-scale invasion at the beginning of the war, the volunteers and the armed forces were already running out of funds, they had to get funds somewhere in order to buy the necessary things for the boys, and the boys always gave me something. well
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, you are a knife and something else. he will bring dry rations marine or something else and it accumulated a little and my friend and i said, listen, it’s a cool topic, let’s do an auction, well, that is, they should at least somehow raise funds for this, and we did it, there is an auction, and that’s how it went, and people are buying, and we have funds for the purchase of some necessary things, here we have an org dry solder oh, this is a beautiful thing, an induction semi-conductor minesweeper of the 84th year of manufacture. this is what they use to look for mines, we have signal missiles, also of russian production, so, well, most of them have already been handed over just by the guy. these trophies will be photographed and put up for auction. and this is what i brought from the last trip. we have a telegram channel, it is called the trophy auction, so we put all our trophies on it. the most expensive lot is a shot tube from a matador
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, sold for uah 50,000 in total, all funds are spent on the purchase of cars, night vision of the walkie-talkie well, something so expensive hello, we are there as usual, everything is numbered , the boxes are signed for all of them, it is not scary and there is a fear of death and mutilation and a fear that i will not have time to prove something to the boys you can't find something, it's probably bigger, after all, first of all, you'll find out that they're waiting and
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they really need these things, well, one of those fears that always haunts volunteers is that you didn't do enough. why did you do it out of time? and now, guys, we had to unload trophies for our auction, fairy tales with callsigns, such a second army of the world can withstand its own army. trophies are given to us by the guys and we sell them and buy something, we need something
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at the moment, we have already collected about a million hryvnias, we have purchased 5 walkie-talkie cars, ammunition , we have now also purchased night vision for cars in russia, there was a huge miscalculation from the first day of the large-scale invasion , not a single war of aggression ended in victory for the invader, we ukrainians have such a cossack spirit that it is impossible to force us to do something, the more you force, the more you try to scare, and the more resistance there will be we arrived at the guys from the 109th brigade and we will unload them. well, we will not give them the organizational stuff, but we will give all kinds of necessary things. i am the most important - to bring these night vision cameras for two cars. the phrase "are you tired of the war? it just makes me angry . well, we all do." tired of the war well, how can it not be tiring but that does not mean that
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i will stop doing what i do, helping the rear is very important for the front because it is very important for the military to feel that they are not forgotten, not only that the state takes care of them and provides them with e- there are weapons and equipment and what about in the rear people remember about them that they can appreciate their work is very, very, very difficult and that's why when i come , it's not so important to them what i brought, but it's important that i came to them, congratulations to everyone, pass on everything , feed, clothe, you you help us a lot while you are running away yes and we went to the estuary without thinking about what motivates me in general i didn't think why i do it and even now i don't think about it it's their awareness that you should do it well i don't know how to even say it let it sound pathetic somewhere
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but my life and my future and the future of the next generations of ukrainians depend on this, if we can't survive, if we can't win, then there will be nothing, in principle, there will be no life, no, no , no, i won't be able to live there under occupation, i will not be able to live somewhere in a foreign country, i, well, in principle, i will never be able to come to terms with this, and the words of people after such a thing no, we will not surrender without light, without gas, without water, without anything but we will not surrender, we will help our army, our boys and our community and there will still be ukraine after victory. i have great hope that ukraine will change a lot with the war. well, in principle, there are a lot of different problems and february . i think we should pay attention to this. they should be. they should be just as united somehow
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now in such difficult days. they should be united after that to build the the country in which they want their children to live, they should remember that this is the country of their ancestors. we should think about the fact that this is the country of our descendants . myself exclusively in my profession. i put a lot of effort into myself and put a lot into this profession. i hope that after the war i will be able to realize myself as a second director, as they say in our country, as the first

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