[000:00:00;00] the second world war as perceived by the whole civilized world is may 8 commemoration of the victims because it is a huge tragedy where unfortunately, but ukraine also lost its independence from us, one occupier replaced another , as the ukrainians say, victory when we are over buchenwald, that's why i am convinced that it will be like this, i believe in the end, we will build a ukrainian state where we will feel like we are the masters. you are calm. now in kyiv , they are reporting that there are explosions , announcements of air alarms, we will not know anything more, we will comment mykola knyazhytskyi, on the eve of independence day, what are you all waiting for? are there any provocations, because we have seen these polls? well, after all, there is a certain percentage of ukrainians who, despite what

is considered a holiday, see even in the kherson region they are introducing a general curfew so that there are no gatherings. was not dedicated to this day, i now fully support what mykolaya said, there really is a bill of freedom when our faction submitted the project, you majority does not support it, does not bring it to the hall , although we are all national-democratic here deputies and votes were initiated from different, well, there are not so many of them, the national-democratic faction, but we are still a minority there. unfortunately , why they can’t stand it is difficult for me to understand, because for me it is the same as with the ban on the russian church with other parents with similar projects, well, we introduced it after the maidan, and i want to thank volodymyr vytrovych, who was the head of the institute of national remembrance at that time. may 8 is the day of remembrance and reconciliation, and may 9 is exactly the same. look, this holiday has been introduced. on at that time, you saw how

many people supported it and found it, and then it was not just because there were different political forces, i remember how difficult it was to pass the law on language and how long i stood on the podium, despite the fact that democracy was the majority. but among those democrats there were also different people, it also changes in the political community, who in society among those who vote and among those how they vote, so it is obvious. i agree with you that it was necessary to cancel it, i am for it with two hands and now it is necessary to take it to the hall to cancel it now, we do not at all is carried out into the hall but that that we introduced may 8 and we celebrated it even after the 19th, we were allowed to celebrate it near the museum of the second world war, where we regularly did it independently , no one held any events at all after the elections of the 19th, we actually did it informally, people who wanted celebrate the victory over nazism day unfortunately, this victory over nazism day turned into the fact that another ally of hitler, which is actually nazism , brought to power this is steelism, which absolutely justly divided europe into two parts

, and wants to take this victory for itself, obviously 8 may, we must remember all the dead, we must place the responsibility on both hitler and stalin for the start of the second world war, we must remember all the ukrainians who died at that time, both from stalin and from hitler, and from many other allies of stalin , we also remember we wonder what they did here, too, uh, all these people, it's obvious that uh , the dead. we must remember and forget about the ninth , because russia is cynically using it to speculate on the fates and tragedies of the dead, and we see that very few people are left supporters er , only 13% of this ideology is spread there by bloody dictatorial russia. this is not much compared to 50-8%. so i don't think that it will somehow spill out onto the streets of our cities and that now there will be some provocations, i think it will all be stopped because the majority of people , i think even now, even more so when they see these red flags, they

will understand that these are pieces of the aggressor who is now attacking and killing children in our country, even regardless of how she feels about it, that will not happen at all because those cadres that we people in masks showed there, it means that it was literally there, well, 2021 is the year of quarantine, that is, we have a quarantine, and i apologize for the small one. here in lviv, supporters of medvedchuk’s party tried to arrange provocations as early as 21st year, in 20th year, people just physically left here well, let's move back. they should just be detained. the services should have been detained only then. what is the problem ? i want to ask you as a person who spent a year of this full-scale invasion literally in the trenches. the fact that you are here now is normal. good, but what you left there is the hard days of the military. as you think, and as a journalist in the past, a political commentator, we will not return, there will be no rollback

. this is what i worry about when i see. this is still about may 9 13% when i hear well, unfortunately, the russian language on the streets of lviv, which has now increased for some reason, i don't know, people think differently. why this is so, but the fact that last year there was so much of this and it wasn't so loud this is also a fact well, i really here i agree with you, i look at footage from archive footage and so on i feel such surrealism. and did it really happen to us? this is our country and i really hope, again, i share your hopes that there will never be a return to this. too many of the best ukrainians wanted this to never happen again, because this this war includes the war for the final break with the empire in all its contexts, from the military to the cultural and historical. and i also very much hope that we

will all remember what a great price we paid and are paying in order to break with the empire that you do you think from the point of view of history? well, if you were to look at all of this now, something could still roll us back. well, these are some of the fears we are discussing, but all the same, strife, elections , gnawing quarrels. this can turn us back . contradictions and i think the internal ambitions that are always present in many politicians and so on, but in general i think that this war is a great tragedy, but please forgive me, it is a great consolidation for ukrainians and the east and the south and the west and the north and the center as one nation, because you see all sorts of sociological polls that you don't conduct, well, it's hard to imagine now if the party ratings showed that any pro-

russian party could get into the parliament, well, that's unrealistic. i don't believe it, and such and such sociology is impossible if we talk about the ninth to the ninth of may, well, that's natural. well, first of all, we have to take into account that simply the age of the people, obviously, the generation simply changed. that's how viktor and i talked , we are analyzing that this is a factor after all in the period of yushchenko's presidency, when after all, may 8 cheated because it is a double double capitulation that was organized by joseph stalin because the whole world europe has the land of america follows may 8 victory and in the social to come up with people on may 10 victory it is obvious that this is a copy of the graph of the soviet union and the russian federation therefore it is obvious that this ideology changed precisely during the period of yushchenko's presidency, and therefore the attitude towards this holiday changed because we did not change the holiday well, i think that we simply did not have time to do it within the framework of this session period, we will insist on this in the near future at agreed councils with various factions and parliamentary groups. i think that we can do it and it will

be done. that's why it's really not our holiday. i think that our victories are ahead and it's obvious that this is the main thing that our nation has won. now for today, this is an internal consolidation in the face of the enemy, and god forbid that this consolidation lasts until victory day, so this topic of military training until may 9 , what should we expect? come on. maybe i understand that it is difficult to comment on what is happening in kyiv right now, but now the top topic of the information space in ukraine is that some telegram channels are already reporting a lot of explosions, and what is reassuring is that the representatives of the kyiv military administration claim that air defense is already working, as it were, from "a video appeared where they saw a drone and it was not a mine. but again, we understand that it is in

the dynamics of the development of this situation now that it is difficult to comment on it, mr. oleksandr, it is necessary to answer you, it is possible that you know from your sources and in general, these days until may 9, what do you think they will be? it seems to me that russia is now acting absolutely rationally and they are not always tied here to any important dates, they focus on their own resources , have opportunities and have accumulated appropriate resources and reserves in order to to use a mass drone comedian for chess 136 or missiles of various types of bases they use for what purpose it is important to them to slow down the pace of ukrainian preparations for a counteroffensive as much as possible because it is obvious that those arrivals that we are the last we have been watching for a few days, they will go to the objects of the military infrastructure to the objects of the energy infrastructure to the objects of the e -e railway infrastructure why because they have a country it is important that the military and technical assistance that we will receive from our western

partners should arrive as slowly as possible to those parts and units that are preparing for a counteroffensive and what we are seeing now. i can also see a separate eye in the telegram channel that is writing about the events in kyiv . are researching the information the russians need about key objects on the territory of our country , in particular in kyiv , in order to further hit these objects with the missiles they have at their disposal. do not have a sufficient number of missiles. this is not entirely correct information. the russians have the ability to produce from one and a half to four thousand ammunition per day. this is the first and second. they are capable of producing up to 50 missiles of various types, both naval and aviation, within a month. basing all the hetmans. what do you think we should expect from its air defense up

to kyiv itself and big cities in general? i would like to ask you. that, in principle, in response to the fact that well , they themselves most likely did it, but they will submit so that the answer for the kremlin will be strikes on large ukrainian cities, there may be well, present may to him already, as i understand it closed yes to the question i think you have something else to add, you can add, i would like to simply these people who have now fled from our country uh who supported all these russian narratives certain political parties certain political forces we knew all this so how do i agree with eh mr. freedom, we knew this from 1991 to 1990, well , we all knew, and was it necessary for such a war to begin, so that finally everyone understood that these