[000:00:00;00] therefore, it is difficult to say how this case will develop further, it also depends on the strategy of defense against whether the prosecutor 's office will file the same motions against other participants in this trial to also send them to the pretrial detention center. sold by his wife at a price, the krayan plant was transformed into a center for the provision of administrative services, which odessa citizens use since 2018 , if i am not mistaken. what in the 16th year? well, that is , it works even despite the fact that this plant that is, the building , one of the buildings of the krayan plant, appears in

the criminal proceedings, this does not interfere with the administrator. what are the main questions you have for the mayor of odesa well, to be honest, i haven't thought about it for a long time because, well , my main question for the mayor of odesa was that i submitted an application to him in the police about obstructing journalistic activities in the 18th year, the case was closed even without questioning the mayor of anya or his bodyguards, there were also criminal cases on land plots that were also investigated, there was a criminal case on the creation of a criminal group , where, in addition to the mayor of odessa, volodymyr also went haberdasher who for a very long time was called the gray cardinal of the odesa authorities , well, that is, there were criminal cases, but there were no verdicts on them, and this, of course

, leaves questions open for activists and for journalists who are in odessa and still work, and if they are talking about the russian passport now, because before the full-scale invasion there was a lot of talk about the russian passport of mr. trukhanov , is this topic now in the focus of the public's attention? a bit out of time to be honest, and despite the fact that after february 24 , the mayor disappeared for several days, according to my calculations, a week, someone wrote on facebook today from activists for nine days in general, there was no information from him, there were no statements from him, it was not clear where the mayor of one of the largest cities of ukraine was, when russia had already openly attacked ukraine, he appeared about a week later, he agreed very patriotically , he sent a russian warship there,

others sent him there said glory to ukraine and changed in a certain way and outwardly at least strengthened his political positions because now, well , any government during the war strengthens its political position because people do not want, i do not i know, i can interfere with that government. so, mykhailo. thank you for joining the broadcast. mykhailo shtekel, editor-in-chief, media center ukraine , where it was with us in direct contact . thank you. zelenskyi, during his speech at the hague court, also announced the number of war crimes committed by the russian army in the last month alone: ​​6,139, as a result of which 207 people died, including 17 children.

i would like to add that the president is out of date with hybrid forms of justice and noted that the only institution capable of reacting to the primary crime of aggression is the tribunal, and it is the tribunal, not something hybrid , zelenskyi said, different vladimir, of course, we all want to see a different vladimir here , the one who deserves to be convicted for criminal acts, it should be carried out here in the capital of international law, there is a certainty that it will happen when we win and we will win , he is mykhailo drapak, director of the european studies program at the foreign policy council ukrainian prisma joins the broadcast my greetings good evening good evening zelenskyi's visa to the netherlands, what are the most important points in your opinion what should be paid special attention to can we talk about some specific results the main thing is that this visit

to the netherlands is another visit, i.e. in in the chain in the chain of visits of volodymyr zelenskyi in recent days, and before that, the ukrainian president was in finland, where he met with the leaders of nordic european states, now with the prime ministers of belgium and the netherlands met, that is, here an important component of these visits is actually the negotiations on the support of the euro-atlantic european path of ukraine by the specified countries. also , there is a bilateral issue of support, first of all , of military support, but also of financial support, support for reconstruction and support for the countries specified in the actual condemnation. of russian war crimes, it is not for nothing that in the netherlands mr. zelensky also spoke at the international criminal court

, that is, a lot of issues were discussed here and at the moment, the ukrainian president is incredibly simply accumulating this political support in the issues that are of most interest to kyiv in the netherlands today, and it is especially pleasant, so to speak, considering that at the beginning of russian aggression back in 2014, in general , after the full-scale invasion, the netherlands maintained such a restrained attitude for quite a long time positions and in their statements and in their actions . what do you think changed the situation? it is worth saying that the netherlands was one of the first countries that started talking about it is possible to transfer the f16 to ukraine. it is not impossible, yes. that is, it is one of the countries that operates these aircraft, and the government in the netherlands was one of the first to say that we can start training

ukrainian pilots here. there is no wonder that the dutch prime minister, the dutch government, became the first or one of the first to say that this discussion is capable of reaching something, to the result that ukraine needs before handing over the actual planes , and it should also, but some more clear statements rumors from e-e, thanks to which it is possible to say that hmm ukraine will receive planes planes well, so far there are no such statements, that is, for now , discreet assessments and just such status updates regarding the fact that the discussion is ongoing , the dutch prime minister spoke about it e-e that yesterday was the danish premiere, that is, uh, while the conversation is going on, but uh, what is important to ukraine , they do not say anything about this issue today, even

during a speech in asia, zelenskyi promised that literally his international business trips will have results that will bring bad news for russians to what extent. in the current conditions, such active business trips of the ukrainian president are generally justified . well, given that, of course, after yesterday's incident, in particular, with the drones over the kremlin, russian politicians openly call for the elimination of zelensky. it is necessary to think not only about today's reaction to events and not only about the perspective of two or three months

. the existence of a constant threat from russia to the construction of this long-term stability of ukraine and in matters of defense and in general in matters of political stability for a reason , after yesterday's meeting with the leaders of normative european europeans, after today's meeting with belgium, the netherlands , ukrainian representatives of the government, representatives of the president's office spoke about the fact that we finally have a consensus - well, this is not the consensus of mr. mykhailo. i apologize, unfortunately , but the connection is interrupted . we can't hear you very well, i will thank you, mykhailo the director of the program of european studies of the council of foreign policy, ukrainian prisma, was in direct contact with us. thank you. well, by the way, i'm for . by the way, i would like to note on the previous topic that zelenskyi has already reacted to the threats regarding his physical removal and stated that

they are not interesting. well, on the other hand, the russians it is better to think how to change the political regime in their own country that you will end the war the defense of kyiv the fighting in donbas and the cancellation of injuries stanislav lyosha the intelligence officer of the 109th mountain assault battalion of the 10th separate of the edelweiss mountain assault brigade serving in the ranks since the 19th year says he chose the army in a purposeful way now stanislav is recovering after being wounded during the shelling in donetsk region, does the military not embarrass the peaceful capital when there will be victory and whether there are enough motivated soldiers at the front, see in the video radio svoboda , the body adapts very quickly to everything that happens . i am very fast.

i know how to switch like this, but i have no judgment of these people who just walk there, walking, it makes me purple at all, well, god , walk. i'm only glad that you are walking and enjoying life and look at the sun. i think that it's great, spring has finally come , it would be easier for me if everyone walked here gray people and everyone like that, you know, all the military people there are like that, there is a war, nothing works in our country, not a single institution works, the car does not drive, everyone is like that , they walk, sit, worry a lot, well, for me, this will not solve the situation. for example, eh women with children go there, but you even go with children well, no, you didn’t enlist. well, you saw it. you traveled a lot at the front, you saw the difference between certain units there and certain people, how the truth reacts to ours . you saw how a person, for example, yes how can i get a joke out of this, and the other one is sitting there soldering it, he says no to this , we have betrayed everyone, everything is bad . well, you see the difference in imagination. now we will have 80% of such an army, so depressed, so

yes, they are all being taken away now, of course they will sit like that, we won’t be able to defeat ourselves, well, if the procurement centers looked at the situation from the other side and made a program , well, that is, screening and influencing the subconscious mind of a person, because some do not even know within their capabilities some they doubt it. and when he is caught by policemen and the car is pulled over and he no longer wants to go anywhere. and when he is subconsciously influenced to say, let's go , you can, here, here, there, here, there, there's that, it's not necessary to shoot from a machine gun. well, there not necessarily. you can go there, i don't know. you can bring food. you can go there. for example, if you are an athlete, there is a duck . yes, there is a handsome man . it will be difficult for you to go, because the trench will have to be expanded for you, but it was worth it . once there, to throw those 30-kilogram projectiles, it is still fire, that is. well, a boy of such normal strength. well, that is, people do not even understand what the structure of the army

is. they do not understand how it is built. they do not understand . well, for them, the army is everything. right now i'm going to go to the trenches with a machine gun well, who's so stupid to tell you that you won't go to the trenches with a machine gun right away maybe it's possible you 'll go to the infantry and maybe not i fully believe that the ukrainian state will be restored well, that is, the state will be fully restored we will have a very strong influence in europe eh we will have a very strong army eh yes we will have a lot of problems eh but i hope that the ukrainian population understands what is going on with the collaborators and their henchmen with all the russian scumbags who are on the territory of ukraine, there is no democracy for them in our country. they have two options , either the land or the suitcase, the russian station, and how do you think it was necessary to prepare society for the fact that there will be a full-scale war, yes, in this way, it was necessary to prepare in advance for several years these territorial defenses that they have been for several years, not for the last

few months, to recruit people and try to bring them there to hostilities, this is not happening, so learn to shoot a machine gun , you can even give her a monkey, just tell her shoot there, she will shoot there, that's not it, that's not it, don't reveal it, it's not about combat operations, combat operations are when you understand where you are when you're psychologically ready for the fact that you can be hurt because you might get hit , you might not be evacuated you may have to walk another kilometer with that severed arm and evacuate yourself, and not only that, but also drag someone with you, that is , you need to prepare yourself psychologically, and this does not happen in a month, it happens in several years. injury, you are now undergoing rehabilitation, you are recovering. tell me what happened in the evening. they set me the task of going to work to work. they arrived only to break down. mina flew in and everything tore off my arm. well, it was an open

fracture. the hand was hanging on the skin and on a piece of meat, and i was lucky. that didn't tear off all the nerve endings , that is, when i went to the doctor, he felt my fingers . well, that is, i didn't feel them, if i didn't feel my hands, but he felt my little finger. i say i hear, and he says everything is fine let's be your hand was saved under local anesthesia, he stitched it up and every time he felt my finger, i could hear it, and yes, i can hear it, i can hear it. i told him, i say, doc, don't chop her off at the next table. the boys' legs are cut off. i think doc doesn't chop , tie him up, he 's such a dog, what do i have to cut off for you

? around 19 there were explosions in occupied sevastopol this was reported by our correspondent from the crimea realiy project. and later there is also the self-proclaimed head of sevastopol, mykhailo entertainingly, said that the forces of the russian special forces destroyed a uav in the area of ​​the belbek airfield. but they neutralized the uav on approach, this was the news on may 4. i thank you for your attention . follow the latest operational and verified news on the website of radio svoboda and telegram channels of radio svoboda, don't forget to subscribe to the youtube channel, like, comment, and see you on the air tomorrow. thank you for your trust. pain can

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perspective ilya samoilenko, a legendary fighter of the equally legendary azov with the call sign gendal he went to fight in 2015, at that time he was studying to be a historian, but the desire to be a soldier turned out to be stronger in 2017, he was injured , since then he had a prosthesis instead of his left arm, but this did not stop ilya. he learned to practice with weapons again before the full-scale invasion. ilya went to mariupol . samoilenko was among hundreds of soldiers who remained under siege during the bombings in the underground tunnels stopped from there and told the whole world about the fierce battles in the city, the soldiers refused to surrender until the order came of the top military leadership of ukraine was in captivity for 120 days and returned home as a result of the exchange in september last year i am sure that the main battles of azov are still ahead

and ukraine cannot lose the war and there is only one option victory mariupoli, for sure, yes, technically, i was at the urzuf base. this is one of our bases near mariupol, well, the first day. it was the 24th. well , how am i, how, how, as i promised, i was at the right time, in the right place, with the right people. met with your brother with your unit, you knew that you had to be. that is, at that very moment, you, er, felt that there would be a full-scale invasion, and at that moment , you also had to be there. well, how i felt, i knew , er, that will something be seen starting somewhere from november, i think, and all these reports from mh6

, from american intelligence, our european partners, from the main intelligence department, and so on , are already going there, and so on. i felt that what i saw is what everyone is thought that it would somehow be resolved in exactly the same way. well, nothing would happen. well, really, from the point of view of perception there, it was a far-fetched thing, as i said then, as i say. now and before the start of the full-scale invasion, the russians had all possible levers of influence on us there , both economic and social, cultural and, in some places , political problems, the main problem is that well , as they say, as they say, carl von clause gave his famous famous book about war that war and the continuation of politics by other methods it's just a classic strategy game. but the russians didn't need to start the scale of the invasion in order to have an effect

on us and continue to have an effect . and to challenge not only the security in the region, yes, as they say, the geopolitical base of some kind of geopolitical balance, but they challenged the system of collective security in general and , well, the world order. well, you can say that. well, because after the second world war, there to a civilized country. they began to negotiate with each other . yes, yes, to distribute spheres of influence . i can't get into my head. yes, but i think that almost everyone is obvious

. yes, those are the analogies that were drawn . yes, there is a guy with a school bully who wanted to show something to someone. who wants to play at the table with big players yes, but they don't let him in and so on well, it's all very far fetched yes, it's just worth understanding that if a resource is an accumulated resource if i'm the tension of this resource well, i'm talking about a military resource, yes, it should be released and in such structures as empires and russia, in one way or another, throughout its long history there, well, large in terms of terms and years, it was its empire with absolutely clear, clear imperial characteristics, the first of which is the necessity expansion of many other empires there in the past years there past millennia they also had this characteristic and expansion was necessary because the empire cannot live at the expense of itself it cannot develop

at the expense of planned calm progress it needs revolutionary steps the capture of new territories , the rise of national national consciousness and national pride, well, if it is at all. a new percentage of capture is obtained, the national rise of resting on laurels and it is necessary to capture in another way well, this empire it will simply collapse actually, our task for civilization, yes, is to stop this development, this is the cycle but again , a lot of attention is paid even now , after a year, russia war, although we first of all need to concentrate on our issues, on our problems, because this is a big factor

of distraction, well, that is, you can understand very, very well their internal systems yes, there are their politicians in their financial and economic system, in the way that they are strongly affected by sanctions, you can read a lot of analytics, for example, there are prominent world insiders, you can watch all the investigations there of groups that are engaged in research, for example, there is the suppression of the position in russia in russia and so on and so on and so on. you can do a lot of things, but that's not what we need, well, actually, but it might be very interesting for someone, well, it's worth stopping yourself because well, you can conduct very interesting experiments there on the life of insects for example, yes, but well, when the house is on fire, yes, it’s not the time to choose curtains, or as a historian and a military man, tell me how

empires die in general, and what is our role in this ? to blame, yes, this sheltered empire well, here it is a little bit wrong, i will correct it, we are not a small country, we are a big country, a big country with a great history, with great people, with great roots and with a great heritage, which many ukrainians do not even, well, even appreciate, do not know about it, reject it, yes and come to the perception of their ukrainian to the exclusion of reactionary yes and so on, that is, well, this is a typical example yes, a lot of people there have switched to the ukrainian language there are signatures on the 24th because they used to be more comfortable using russian okay, er, this should not be motivation before that, that is, you have to love ukraine, not against anyone , yes, but for ukraine, that is, well, it’s to spite my mother, i’ll freeze my ears, it ’s not the same here, it’s not the same at all. it can’t

be related to the same thing, for example, there with the ukrainian-language content there, everyone was worried there these years, how did it transform, how was it created? yes, well, first of all, it started , well, again, first of all, there are continent makers there in social networks, there on youtube and so on, like just an alternative. whatever, but in ukrainian yes, the quality suffered because of this, but the content must first of all be of high quality, yes, well, somehow it rose somehow, somehow it all took shape, well, okay. and that is, it is also important to understand that well, i am talking about what is there. people react to the perception my ukrainian, but maybe so because the final result is so impossible, the final result is because, returning to our own question, how can a small country

resist the big empires, how will the empire be destroyed, the empire will be destroyed, but simply for this, people must understand that we are not a small country, and people must also understand that only by joining efforts and understanding the personal responsibility of everyone , then you can somehow predict and plan the results because, well, words are just words . yes, there are words that can change in a certain way there, society needs to change its consciousness, but these should be very powerful words, and another huge point is that nothing is given just like that, and after a year of war, yes, i already see such trends in society that people think that simply by believing in themselves, simply by believing as the mantra is repeated in our country, i believed in the armed forces, guys, well, it’s more likely not so, boys and girls, yes, you don’t just have to believe in the armed forces

, you also need to understand that it can’t be useful. actually, it’s direct military propaganda, if it’s because i’m the last sometimes i also see this very shameful tendency for people to shift responsibility from themselves to someone else, as always, and this is the problem that must be dealt with in the first place . how do you see the collapse of the russian empire? yes, we all dream of a date for the implementation of the plan that is drawn on the map in bohdanov 's office. where is the map very very interesting, very good ? personally, i think that it is pleasant to contemplate , but for example, for our western

partners, yes, it is more pleasant and more a favorable system, a system of controlled chaos, well, that is, okay, let's really look each other in the eye. yes, there is all that russia has , well, nuclear weapons, if they are distributed there and will gonize there and there , there are several dozens of at least some smaller states, well , it will be several dozen smaller states with the same problem is to control all of them, well, it will be absolutely impossible . well, to be honest, it's the politicians' business here . well, i'm a military man, my business is military, and well , just by chance, i'm just going in now not there, not at the point of deployment of his unit. and now in kyiv , yes , because a lot of work is being done . also, here and well, we do what they ask us to do and even more. our experience is in society and in other units of the armed forces, and we are happy