[000:00:00;00] supporters of the enemy. well, that's why you don't need to take my words as such . let's imagine a world of pink ponies . yes, there are those that fly and so on. no, no, no, no, you need to be ruthless with the enemy. with us, but with the people who became hostages. well, we have to treat them as people who became hostages about politics, how do you see the society of the future, well, in general, political, um, i don't know what kind of verkhovna rada you see. well, many soldiers will return from the front, they will yes to look for yourself in civilian life as you are you see the political system of ukraine after the victory, let's see, let's focus better on the victory. well, really, that is

. well, i don't have an answer to this question, because i haven't thought about it at all. well, now is not the time to think about the political future of a country in which maybe there won't even be a future. well, let's not choose curtains for a room that's on fire. here's what's important. yes , there are people who can think about it. now there are people who can think about it there. well, a little later there are people who are already thinking about it so on, but again, you don't need to focus on the military here, yes, well, will there, for example, involve the military there somehow actively in the social and political life there, or will they themselves get involved in this , well, i suspect that yes well, most likely, but here it is also necessary to understand that if a person there is simply a military man, and it doesn’t matter how much or little experience there is, this does not mean that he is a priori, for example , well versed in all the social

issues of life there or why he is well versed in life in social issues, right? yes, we are military, we are in certain conceptual points . yes, there are core , deep-rooted points . strange question well, maybe i don’t know how much to think, the war will continue and what did putin bet on well, what did putin bet on, that is, what are his red lines, well, that is , what is the maximum. what do you think, what bar has he raised for himself, that is, he wants to go through us

before going to europe, does he want to redistribute the world order? what do you think is his strategic goal and what is he capable of? well, again, things that are usually not thought about because they are not relevant enough there for me and for my family first of all, putin is already certain. rather, not so. russia has already changed the world balance in a certain way, and the world order is already a fact of its actions. war damn they can to mobilize a million and a million soldiers there, maybe one and a half , we can't play with them with such local methods, well, it's not time for symmetrical corresponding actions, it's not time for reactionary actions, we just need

to seize the initiative. and this is how the war can only be this way, the war can end just like that, well, we remember a year ago there was a small victorious war in kyiv in three days, yes, they change uh , politicians yes, they put yanukovych there , they brought them to minsk well, it seems, but now things have changed much more seriously, where is putin will stop at all well, they can play a protracted war of a total character, we cannot play this kind of war that's all, that is, he will concentrate on us, now they are inclined to war, so a protracted protracted war, as i wrote today on this, it is always a lost war on- we cannot allow yourself to do this, simply, that's why active actions in terms of changing consciousness in society, acts of the most active involvement of other citizens

in military service and getting ready right here and now, and you with us, that's how he should be prepared, he doesn't have to, he shouldn't be raw, it should not be reactionary. but we need to seize the initiative, but we should understand that no one will come and solve our problems for us, despite the fact that we are already very much helped to solve our problems. well, we should not just relax and transfer responsibility as on a personal level as well as on a national level thank you thank you semi-finals of the champions league on megogo real-man city de milan inter watch the matches the whole world is waiting for on may 9 and 10 at 22:00

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agricultural products in five countries, our wheat , corn, rapeseed and sunflower will temporarily not be sold in bulgaria, hungary, poland , romania and slovakia, these measures are necessary the commission says, at the same time, products can continue to circulate or transit through these five member states. deputy minister of agrarian policy and food markiyan dmitrasevich noted that such a decision is a move in the right direction, as it leads to the lifting of unilateral bans from the mentioned countries . i would like to remind you that the european union is in first of all, the economic union, which conducts a unified foreign trade trade policy, and here it turned out that individual members of the european union unilaterally, in violation of all the rules of this community, began to introduce

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of the former alpha bank but in order to approach this topic, let's generally remember how russia tried to influence ukrainian politics and economy through the banking system before the start of the war until 2014 as many of us there was russian capital on the banking market, there was quite a lot if you look at the total, it was purely state-owned, there were several private banks, they had, respectively , almost eight percent of the system, they held banks that were backed by russian state capital , and approximately a little less than three percent, these were private banks groups, for example, let me remember that in the first group , the classification of the largest banks was then such that there were 15

banks in total, three banks with russian capital, two of them, etc. it was prominvest bank, vtb bank, these were state-owned and there was one private alpha bank, and there was also a group, and there was also the so-called russian standard , and it was already a medium group, and it was later renamed forward bank. there were also bm bank and visb bank, they were among the small ones. that is, it was quite decently, i must say that, in principle, all of them were either liquidated or a little later were liquidated or joined to someone during the bankruptcy of the 14th and 15th years, the last bank was sent for liquidation, it was the forward bank in

february of this year, potential because of such financial institutions, russia could influence the ukrainian economy and politics, issue, for example, not issue loans to some companies, and others have access to some commercial secrets of our ukrainian enterprises, or simply finance their subversive activities, to what extent it would be safer for them to do this through their financial institutions institutions something like this was once established and proved that russia was really trying through these banks not just to do business but to do politics eh, you know. i am not sure that they financed their subversive

activity through these banks, because it is, as people say now, fuel. this is a little fuel, but for example, through prominvestbank, they controlled the financial flows of the energy atom, for example, ukrzaliznytsia at one time kept account funds there, that is, large banks with such an extensive network of branches with a large number of large customers, of course, they receive the so-called sensitive information , that is, information that gives an understanding of what is happening, with whom, how it is happening, where the supplies of this or that are coming from, so i think that this was very an important instrument of influence, and of course, all kinds of commercial projects that had such, you know, a russian color could be financed indirectly, that is, all this, well, in general , banks are a tool, it is investment

, lending and information, a lot of information. yes , yes , yes, if you read about it, it is not an ordinary bank, even on the russian market, it is directly an investment agency of the russian government of the russian authorities, that is, it is not obeys the usual requirements even of their bank center here, of course, it is suspicious that such an institution had access to our critical data but if we talk about state banks , they disappeared quite quickly after 2014 , after the invasion of russia in crimea, the annexation, the start of the war in donbas, something happened to them directly i remember i remember that at that time the head of the national bank was mrs. valeria gontareva. and she said that the russian banks of the future, with state capital, have no future in ukraine, what

happened to them? i understand that there are problems with they did not have liquidity, they could exist and fulfill all the requirements of the national bank for quite a long time and increase their share in the market. but that’s okay, nevertheless, they were somehow removed from the market by a special act of president petro poroshenko it seems that in march of 17th , sanctions were imposed against russian banks with state capital, this is primarily about the vtb bm investment bank and so on. year, by the way, there were problems with liquidity and so on, bm bank himself liquidated, there was such an opportunity. he simply, as they say, put a license, and there in the eu the bank

in which the fate was. well , he bought it through a mediocre structure there, e . in principle, most of the banks left in 17-18 years, but uh, there was a lot of talk about manvest , they tried to sell it to a new investor for quite a long time. by the way, the last of such investors was the tas group of mr. tigipka, but it was eventually liquidated at the beginning in the 22nd year, even before the invasion. by the way, as far as i understand, there were customers in these banks, there was a customer base, there were some commercial companies that placed their deposits there , took loans, there was a package of government bonds on the balance sheet, and all this could not be

simply crossed out and somehow forget about it, that is, there were some assets, and these assets , well, in one case, you explained that they were bought by the same group and somehow or other they were transferred somewhere for sale, but in general , as far as i understand, the strategy was like this the strategy is not to allow them to develop and the hope that over time they will somehow dry up little by little and reduce their presence. well, they will close, or did that happen? there was not even real estate worth millions of dollars . i think. well, in the center of kyiv. i remember that luxurious vtb bank building right across from it. the prime minister of the diagonal palace, well, and the piba bank, a posh house near maidan nedienka was built, and the situation was as follows, on the one hand, back in the 14th year, a number of banks, uh , parent banks, non-ukrainian

parent russian banks, which state- state banks through which they controlled these ukrainian ones that you and i mention, they were subjected to, for example, sanctions from the united states , and by the way, the reason was nexia of crimea , that is, the wording was sectoral sanctions, such and such russian banking groups , and the reason was crimea, but ah, we well, we remember that there was a bank collapse and there was a situation when banks left the market in droves and the state had to finance the deposit guarantee fund , the financial situation was quite dire, i will remind you that at the beginning of the 15th year we had foreign currency reserves clean eh

the national bank had about 0, so with the youth, so to speak, there were about 8 or 7 billion dollars of general reserves, which is very little. and therefore, of course, there were some sharp movements . well, they were afraid of them. and of course, for this reason , they tried to do something it should be done so gradually. and for example, the sanctions that were initially from the very beginning, they consisted in the fact that they forbade the withdrawal of loans previously received from the parent structures and the transfer of dividends, that is, they could not do anything but in the direction of moscow from ukraine to list and what they did in order to chase what you say about er there is more or less er solvency, it was in a certain way formal, including because they converted the loans they

received there earlier for several years to 5 - 7-8 years from their parent russian structures, they turned them into capital. that is, it improved reporting, but it hardly improved the situation in real life. well, of course, and they really kept them, as they say, on a very short leash, and so it moved for at least 3 - 4 years before the period when they started it they began to withdraw licenses to put them, well, it was after the 17th year about private russian banks, now let’s talk about the real thing, we got to alfa, er, alfa tried to somehow renounce its russian roots , changed its name to mean that it was clear that this bank was for sale, that an investor had already been found, were rumors that the owners of this bank and russian-israeli e-e businessmen are ready to finance the bank and pour in 1 billion

dollars, it seems that such an amount was mentioned, it's all some kind of smoke screen, that it's just to save the bank, or did they really try in some way to leave the e-e bank without the attention of our regulatory bodies so that they can already detach themselves from it so that it works for itself as a simple business . you know, i would like to share the problem of the bank itself in ukraine and the problem is that its owners, its influence are under the sanctions of e- of course, the bank has been developing all these years. i want to tell you that in hryvnias, if you don't take into account the exchange rate there, but simply in hryvnias, actually formally, for example , hmm, as far as i remember

, the amount of funds increased by three times, almost three times of legal entities in alpha-bank e.e. from january 1, 2014 to the present time and the amount of money of individuals in this bank has increased approximately four times, i.e. the bank has been developing quite actively all these years. on the one hand, it is a ukrainian bank with a large number of ukrainian clients, and on the other hand, there are mr. friedman kosogo and others who are there with russian passports and who are under european and american sanctions. and so on and so forth and that's why ukraine couldn't just pretend that nothing is happening and we can continue to touch it quietly and everything is okay. we

had to introduce some kind of sanctions and we tried to do it. well, it seems that the fall of last year was the first an attempt was made in october to adopt a law, but there was such a thing that it could be nationalized a systemically important bank, if it loses liquidity, and there was such a very, well, in my opinion, it is an interesting rule, the possibility of capitalizing such a bank for the budget expense well, if it is not solvent there, then it needs to be catalyzed and here there was such a thing that the bank was solvent and to use it a-and nationalization in order to avoid its fall in capacity was simply not possible. by the way, now the bank

accounts for approx . 2% of the funds of legal entities and approximately 4.5% of the funds of individuals in general, if you look at the system. this is what they say about his role and place in the banking system of ukraine. well, it is not so powerful, but we do not have two minutes, i would literally like ask about the latest attempt at nationalization sens-bank or the former alpha-bank did not have enough votes for the parliament, what exactly did they vote for and why were there not enough, what were the arguments of those who did not vote or against it, it seems that no one spoke so openly, they simply did not oppose, there was not a single vote anya in the first anya in the second reading well the opz has changed dramatically. at first, almost all of them were in favor, then they were absolutely all against it, or they abstained from it. it’s clear. why in the eu? there was a different situation. they were against it at

the beginning. and now i have european solidarity. it’s because they are not arranged the procedure ie the decision of the security council instead of the usual normal system there, what do they call it, which was introduced in 2014, when there through the court due to all kinds of such mechanisms, they consider the current proposed system not very successful and insist on its change and say that if you bring it to order, as they understand it that way, then they will vote for the servants of the people. i think that there were some internal contradictions, but i want to say that they still mostly won the majority of votes. and i wouldn't say that there. well, of course, they reduced the number but happened, that is, i think that if these, in my opinion, well, mostly technical problems will be solved, then everything will happen, but of course

there is a lot of speculation around this , a lot of oksana, we will follow this story. they talked about russian banks in ukraine, about how russian capital through the banking system tried to influence ukrainian politics and the economy, collect confidential commercial data, so what everything worked out. i'm andriy yanitskyi, the host of the economic news program on the espresso tv channel. we'll see you tomorrow at 8 a.m. live. together we'll win. congratulations. i'm asking you to help us find this girl. her name is vasilisa gulyaeva. the girl

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