[000:00:00;00] you know georgians, their temperament usually prevails often in such matters, the dialogue is somehow trying to understand the logic of good russians, good russians are actually those who are fighting now on the side of ukraine against russia, well, or some really don’t know when they say how scary it is when they are at the front against the russians heaps of this russian cannon fodder, this is good russian. and those who say something because they are afraid , but who are supposedly on the side of ukraine and against putin , then this is good russian, this epithet does not suit them well, but about the patience of the ukrainians actually, i think that the ukrainians would not be able, the ukrainian bartender would not be able to conduct such a dialogue now, because for some word there would simply be such a diplomatic blow on the part of the ukrainian

bartender, my own, as it actually happened recently with the ukrainian flag as and the russians tried to save the ukrainians , to what extent does this actually affect ukrainian foreign policy, or will this incident harm us? we already showed the video today , now we will show it again, ambassador olga trofimtseva ms. ambassador with special assignments of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, she is the acting minister of the agro-industrial complex and the deputy minister of the groups of her complex in 2016-2019 ms. olya, we welcome you to our airwaves. have a good day. ambassador with a special mandate from ukraine well, we have such an incident, have you probably seen this video where flags were torn down at this moment

when our delegation is so or so from i see active here and the russian representative office which came out with that tape of georgiyivska banned from speaking in ukraine. well, our delegation was price-gouged, in fact , they interrupted her speech, and then we still had little to continue. when, relatively speaking, there on the sidelines, when the ukrainian delegation tried to touch the flag, that's not the case with the russians i liked that they decided that it should be torn down immediately, although it is just next to other flags. well, the deputy seems to be listening to the people who were present there in an embroidered shirt. he very quickly explained to the russian what he thought about it and the flag was returned, however, to the extent that it is acceptable at official events of this level, is it really this, this, this, this, this, this moment

? what , i don’t know, i was amused. yes , you know. it's difficult because if we talk simply, yes, there are some etiquettes, some rules of conduct, yes , at events of this kind, etc. well, it is clear that this is unacceptable, and on the other hand, considering that it is sometimes difficult for me personally to restrain myself also emotionally gave some situations when somewhere well, it turns out that you cross paths whether you want to or not for work yes , there are some representatives of russian or diplomatic circles present. in general, it is difficult to call them diplomats, yes, by and large, taking into account, again, how russia behaves in general, and therefore, how about me

? i will tell our colleagues frankly here. i would have made this video after seeing this young lady from the georgiivska tape because, well , for me it was probably such a certain emotional trigger, at least to say something to come up and she would definitely do it. that's why i'm here. okay, i'm like the turks. will they accept this according to your opinion or not? well, i don't think that it is. hm, of course, i'm there when the monitor is now. there are some russian sources. they 're trying to disperse something there. somehow, yes, there is a negative about this incident, but this is exclusively them here goes there internal such attempts in of the russian e-e media, yes, there is something about this, ah, i don’t think that it will have any kind of impact , and it will have some kind of negative impact, well, in general , it will have an impact on the bench of the ukrainian delegation, yes, or on some further things, but hmm, i don’t think so. all the more, i think

that here our turkish colleagues will also come to this with understanding today representatives of ukraine, turkey, the un and russia are meeting in istanbul and will talk again about the grain corridor and actually turkey says that if the parties do not agree, then the corridor will cease exist or are there any prerequisites for this, such as - what are your expectations from these negotiations? i still hope that, well, first of all , i will frankly say that i do not expect any breakthrough from today's round of negotiations, and if again if you look at the statements of the russian side, they continue to incite and, of course, continue to put pressure on all parties to this agreement, it was announced literally yesterday already late in the evening that today there will first be a meeting of the so -called technical delegations, and only then in

depending on the results of this meeting, negotiations will be held at the level of the deputy ministers of defense, and with regard to the demands of russia, again, we know that they periodically changed them and voiced various rumors, but the main one for today, as far as i know, is the lifting of sanctions or, in fact, before the connection to the swift international settlement system of the main e-e bank of the russian agricultural federation of rossilkhozbank, because through it the main e-e calculations are carried out for here's how the sport of russian agricultural products, including as we see it. by the way, sanctions work on this example, and russia feels very uncomfortable with disconnected banks and financial institutions from the international settlement system of the world , respectively. now, as i understand it, they will mainly insist on this and to be honest, today, as i already said, let's see how the meeting of these technical delegations with the representatives of the un, including

those who will be there, and then based on today's results, will go. i i think to look further and continue this work, in fact, as far as i know, again with turkey, it still remains for now, in any case, in its position from a political point of view, no, i have not heard any other statements except those that the grain agreement should work . because turkey is directly interested in the work of this grain agreement , and by the way, it also supports china today as a large buyer of ukrainian grain and oil crops, respectively. i think that they will naturally look for some options agreements will be made somehow and compromises will be sought

. but it is difficult for me to imagine how or honestly what compromises can be found first, because the position of the ukrainian side remains unchanged. this blackmail is some kind of additional requirements, requirements that the russian federation constantly puts forward on the one hand, and on the other hand, we must constantly remember that russia itself does not comply with any of the obligations taken on myself within the framework of this grain agreement for the last week, for example, the work of the corridor. we have again the smallest number of students in recent times, and this is where 11 ships turned out. yes , it was loaded, and again, we know a wonderful the reason is that the russian side in the coordination center is simply sabotaging its work and doing everything possible to slow down the work of this initiative

. -is let's put it this way, the interaction where both parties in general benefit from this cooperation, if it is disrupted, it is clear what disadvantages our farmers receive from our reindustrial complex. well, in principle, our partners who we supply agro-industrial products. the case is only difficult, you know. i don’t want to act like this right now. because it is difficult to predict the scenarios of the development of events and what it means that the grain agreement will be disrupted. this is actually if it will be in the form of an e-e exit for russia, there are different possible options. but i think that the russian side perfectly understands that this is still a path to escalation, er, hmm, to the escalation of this situation in any case , and

there are no good options for russia in this sense either, and this is what i think. in any case, i hope that they also understand that this blackmail can also lead to them, firstly, that the sanctions will become even tougher and some of the last opportunities will be blocked for them if they are now complaining or it is difficult for them to export agricultural products there or fertilizers through financial sanctions due to restrictions on insurance for everything else, and i think that if they dare to really withdraw from the grain agreement there , and even more so if they dare to continue, i don’t know, with some military attacks, yes, on commercial ships, well, it will certainly worsen the situation for them. i think they have an understanding, and besides, i emphasize once again that today, not only turkey is on our side, but also those countries that really buy a lot of ukrainian grain and which, in principle, we can say so uh quite dependent

are dependent on stable and predictable supplies of grain and oil, because if you don't even take the poorest countries of africa there , which are really suffering from another by the way, the aggravation of the security and hunger situation, for example , china yes, economic stability and its agro-industrial complex, including animal husbandry , to a certain extent depends on exactly ukrainian supplies , so the situation here is not so simple. so and so and so, well, i think that no one can do this pro-ukrainian grain and its position in europe . a pesticide in our grain and it is obvious that there will be some steps in this

regard, are those pesticides really in our grain and the exceeding of some norms , yes, first of all, here is this last information, i will frankly say that i have not seen it yet, yes, regarding the slovak case. but speaking in general about the situation uh, there actually is, again, i always emphasize that we have to understand what is there, sometimes there may indeed be some cases, and if they are, we receive, and then the official bodies of the natification from the importing countries from the official bodies that cooperate with our state production and consumer service. but if we are talking about the fact that something was found there again and we see it exclusively in the media. yes, then. well, at the official level, this is not confirmed, but by these notifications , that is, according to the official information provided to our side. usually this is it's more like this, again, er, i would say informational yes noise a-a which er-e

is used there to put pressure on the same european commission and a-a this pressure continues openly i will say because literally last night too there was information that a - and despite the fact that here is the decision - this is such a centralized decision of the european commission was really made regarding the fact that certain countries such as poland, slovakia and hungary should remove the ban on imports , there was already not only grain or oil so there were many other types of products included in these ban lists, these restrictions should be removed and instead there will be or have already been introduced there since may 2 restrictions on the import of only four types of products to these countries, but now , as far as i know, in bulgaria such as you mentioned also continue this is a bargain with the european commission, and bulgaria is demanding additional funds there to compensate its farmers, so in fact, this is such an internal

european one, yes, i would say it is interesting. for us , it is also an opportunity to see how sometimes it is not very effective yes, this is their implementation. yes, in implantation , the agrarian policy continues and the social situation. of course, we are not only watching, but literally, our deputy minister, trade representative taras kachka, was in brussels for a visit, and i am sure that he also communicated there. with the representatives of the profile committee of the trade committee of the european commission and the agricultural committee, and in order for us, once again, the key word here is the predictability of such trade policies for our farmers, and for their adoption the solution in order for them to go into the field more confidently, they need to understand how to sow something, how much to sow, what they will be able to sell , yes, no. at least a little bit of guidance on prices , although it is generally difficult there now, but nevertheless, they cannot work at

a loss for themselves and even more so about these extraordinary situations that have arisen right now . deputy minister of economy taras kachka announced at the brussels economic forum the amount that ukraine lost due to the fact that the polish government banned the import of ukrainian agricultural products last month and it cost ukraine 143 million dollars. thank you to ms. olga for the conversation. olga trofimtseva was sent on a special assignment by the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine and acting minister of agriculture and deputy minister of agriculture in 2016 and 2019. now in our stage of this is dana yarova , a volunteer and the head of a public organization , the dream of children of ukraine, a public figure, a member

of the anti-corruption council of the ministry of defense of ukraine. ukraine, we missed you again. please tell us about the educational project of the children of ukraine's dream. what kind of project is it? and what will actually be there. when did we launch a survey among people? we asked the families in great detail what exactly it was about. what are your needs? in what exactly do we need to get involved in, let's say, raising children. i'm sorry that i'm from the car , but i'm going to a meeting, there's just no other time , and according to this questionnaire, we are very it was prescribed in detail and we received a cut of about a third of all inquiries it was about of educational programs, this is english - this is programming. it was a big surprise to me that this final exam and all these programs

are now being launched, it will be online training , but in the fall we will try to do it offline as well, this is sports, and these are some creative stories for of children well, music, someone is engaged in choreography, someone is engaged in football and all these requests. we are currently processing and tightening up somewhere uh, socially responsible businesses somewhere we are taking uh, we are trying to take uh tranche of european loan programs because, unfortunately, uh payments to the families of the victims, i will tell you honestly among the 1,500 families that have now contacted us according to the survey. i found one that received the first payment, the first tranche. you know that 15 million were to be paid out of e-e. they were divided into tranches for 48 months and the first tranche is 3

million and that's it. i found one such family, mrs. dana. and please tell me how many such children are already there whose parents died at the front , those whom you take care of, and what do these children need the most? the most needed one-third declared psychological support, one-third of applications for this educational program and one-third this is humanitarian aid for clothing, shoes, uh, well, there are other very small percentages about this, a very small percentage , psychological support, how is it, how is it, how is it, how is yours, how is it your public organization provides psychological education. we cannot cover ukraine in terms of psychological support. in addition, it is necessary

to recruit a staff of psychologists and support families in this way. well, at the moment, this is an almost impossible story. therefore, now i am leading negotiations with unicef, this international organization for the protection of the rights of mothers and children, and they have already created their extensive network of psychological assistance, and i would also like to point out that we should launch it now together, and i would also like to point out that we have not only the families of fallen soldiers we have families in our base who lost someone in the civil war as well. as for civilians, this is a completely separate story, we do not have the status of the dead, er , civilians who suffered as a result of the er, full-scale invasion, there is not even a status

, not that there are any planned payments there is no status, that is, in order for payments to be made, the status must be registered. i am already asking how things are now in the ministry of defense . it is the anti-corruption council if it is currently investigating that you are asking this. state procurement was headed by me, i am the coordinator, and at the moment , who is in charge of procurement? i didn’t expect it, i’ll tell you honestly. but we were very quickly given access to state secrets. now we’re being dealt with. yes, the sbu and in relation to access, but we have already discussed individual cases that relate to the supply of fuel and lubricants in which we need to submit documents today, monday, we need to conduct

an analysis, we had an official meeting with the head of the nabu, er, we discussed the possibilities of cooperation in which directions, that is, we started working uh , we will bring information about individual cases to society, we will report on what we saw, heard, uh , we looked at the documentation ourselves, but you understand what concerns state secrets we will work within the framework of the law, that is, we have a single source if we see what we believe to be corrupt activity , our only source is to hand over documentation to law enforcement agencies directly in this very interested nab for today, but it's nice to hear what you already have and e admission to secret materials and that there are transparent admissions , there is no admission while there is food, material support, fuel and lubricants, and to

state secrets, they have submitted for inspection , inspection, e, we understand that the inspection is to be kept it will last for some time, we will pass the inspection, well, you must listen to it, after all, it is the kingdom. yes, and just like that. to pass uh and not warn us about the consequences of disseminating information that is a state secret, well, this is not permissible. thank you, mrs. dana yarova, a volunteer the head of the dream of the children of ukraine is going right now to a meeting, i understand, even of the anti-corruption council at the ministry of defense , where she oversees one of the areas. and it is nice that the volunteers and the public are joining these kinds of real initiatives that are aimed at the transparency of public procurement, even in such sensitive areas as the purchase of weapons, and we mean all those calculations for the ministry of defense. well, we sometimes

want to tell you a couple of good news , that is, we have one more hour of our marathon, which we will to talk about the coronation of charles, which will take place tomorrow, about what is happening in britain, because of that, there is a real frenzy among those who are waiting for this event, as well as among those who are not waiting for this event , because there are also those who do not like what britain is a small island state that is part of the british crown, they want to leave the royal commonwealth . yesterday, too, the pans from lesi said that they said that it was a thing and the son should apologize for all of them . what is it called?

the damage they caused those damned british in person rarely gave the best, of course there is a certain irony because the very thing he wants to remove is from a rich family, but after all, he is by origin immediately, the origin is from india and, accordingly, he could also with the same success to demand from himself er as a present-day decembritan to apologize for the request for damage to india but you know it is always very difficult to calculate this damage because there are different empires empire is not always bad as he says er in the end here you can definitely disagree with lego the empire very often carries a certain certain enlightening impulse, er, it very often brings some changes in the economy, and so on , er, well, of course, there are barbarian empires of the barbarian type that sell against civilization. well, we don't have to think too much

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