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de-occupation that on saturdays at 11:10 on espresso with news of the economy on the espresso tv channel as usual on weekdays at eight in the morning live, we meet with you if you watch us on youtube, for example. you can comment on this video, like it, send the link to your friends and family so that more people can see us, let's talk about innovations, you can offer your inventions for the armed forces of ukraine, such an initiative was launched by the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, an idea or a project can be submitted to two platforms break wang and vip, after which it is evaluated by an expert commission, the idea that receives a high level of approval is sent to the platform of the accelerator of the ministry of defense

of ukraine, and its further development is carried out there support through the ukroboronprom company, at the final stage, a decision is made regarding the supply of a sample of weapons for the needs of the army, experts begin the examination of the first twenty projects, i would especially like to draw your attention to the means of erosion complexes, which today, along with other samples of military equipment, represent a promising direction of development and the need for of them is growing more and more every day , this is due to the fact that, first of all, the problem of mine safety is every day and every hour every minute for ukraine, it will only grow bulgaria will lift the ban on the export of ukrainian grain to the u.s. well , for them it is an import for us it is an export, but only after the u.s. restrictions on stabilizing the market come into force this was reported by the press service i will remind the cabinet of ministers of the country that earlier poland, hungary, bulgaria, romania and slovakia banned the import of ukrainian products or to protect local markets, so the european commission offered a financial package

to support farmers from the most affected countries in the amount of 100 million euros and also plans to introduce other protective mechanisms. well, we do not miss the news related to corruption and violation of the law . it turns out that the other day they tried to bring an entire plane into ukraine and not pay the corresponding taxes. kyiv customs officials inspected the cargo transport if it was coming from romania, the documents stated that only the fuselage and wings worth €9,000 were being transported, and during the inspection it turned out that the goods were not parts of the aircraft , directly the whole aircraft in part the customs officials found other parts of the iron bird in a disassembled state, only the engine and separate

on-board equipment were missing, now we will try to talk with our guest anastasia skok, the ecological director of the public association save dnipro ms. anastasia greetings, i see you already, many of our viewers may be surprised why in the economic program a representative of an ecological public organization suddenly appears, but in fact there is nothing strange here, ecology and the economy are very connected . why do you think it is hmm ignoring environmental problems can lead to economic losses, since ukraine has been on a course for european integration for many years, it is very important not to stop the process of approximating ukrainian legislation to the norms of the european union, right now ukraine is already taking a course on the implementation of those directives that are critically important for

manufacturers and industrialists if we are talking , for example, about directive 75 on industrial pollution, this directive prescribes the need to bring industrial capacities up to the standard of emissions of pollutants into the atmospheric air in ukraine, this norm used to be a-a it was possible to calculate due to the maximum allowable concentration, now these norms are, of course , much lower in the eu, higher. therefore, we need to go to this um to this further. but if we are talking about emissions, we must were due to the fact that we, but as a candidate for membership , we undertook to reduce the implementation of this directive in the legislation during our entry, and therefore to reduce the available emissions about which every business entity

reports annually to the state statistics service and thus we can make a cut from each year, whether emissions have increased or emissions have decreased, what was done to reduce emissions of pollutants into the atmosphere, and these are all a-a steps that lead us to the implementation of current eu legislation and that ukrainian legislation be corresponded to those norms, yes, from your answer, i understood that ecology, economy is primarily related to the fact that in order to become part of the great european market and to trade ukrainian goods on european markets we have to meet certain criteria. so when you say directives not all viewers know where the asset is. well, that's what the legislation in the eu is called, that is, there are requirements in the eu legislation that we are also obliged to fulfill. but we don't always fulfill them. there is a difference in the legislation in our country ukrainian and european

we are trying to bring our legislation to the european level in order to become a part of this large, first of all, economic community, and when we talk about the register, it is, well , first of all, an economic association from this everything started with iron from coal from the market of the common trade market and we also want to be part of it well, but in addition to the european stories to which we will return later, there is also an internal benefit from environmental standards well , as far as i know, there is an environmental tax in ukraine that is paid by entrepreneurs, which the amount is about how much entrepreneurs pay the budget, it is yours and our salaries, pensions, including the support of the army. what kind of taxes are thousands, hundreds of thousands of millions of the 22nd year?

five and four billion hryvnias per year, of course, the largest payers of the environmental tax are energoatom dteker selormittal. these are, of course, traditionally the most industrial regions. of us for the fact that the polluter released an excessive amount of pollutants into the atmospheric air, this excess is the main element in this element in the logic of the ecological tax because the excess affects the health of each of us and the person who lives , for example, next to i don't know, but the village pays for its own health in order for arse nickel to receive some excess profit at the moment when it threw away the excess part, excessive emissions are precisely for this, there are norms for

they are different for each industry. but it is accepted and very important that industrialists constantly monitor how many polluting substances they emit, and this is not only as it is now, a-a, on a per -month-per-week-per-day basis, but constantly online , e-e, answering even distinguishing substances which are emitted into the atmosphere not only in total volume, but also in terms of specific substances. that is, ideally, you and i could simply go to the website of the enterprise or the website of the ministry and see what is happening now , which enterprises are polluting the air and not only the air and we, er, the earth and water and what kind of substances are there and how much it all costs us theoretically. i know that ecologists have long been trying to calculate and not direct benefits. well , it is possible and direct, but it is very difficult to subject such a calculation to the benefits that

environmental services directly bring to health nations, that is, you have learned, for example, to calculate the benefits of individual trees and those planted in green zones, they see how old the tree is, how much oxygen the tree produces, how much carbon it absorbs, if it is about swamps, yes, they say what is the benefit of a swamp. let's dry it and build it up . in fact, all these uh natural phenomena are so uh, they do good, and if we talk about clean air, then it can be valued in money, because the countries have agreed among themselves to trade air pollution quotas , it used to be called the kyoto protocol, now this is already the paris declaration and er, that is, there is a cost of clean air, and if er, some enterprise pollutes this air and wants

to go beyond some limits allowed to it , it can buy a quota for pollution at the same time, other enterprises can earn money even if they have reduced their emissions they can say look we have reduced emissions we are now more ecological please pay us extra for the fact that we do not produce so much dirty ukraine during the war in general well, do countries effectively use this system, maybe you know a-a unfortunately, another a-a influence of russian aggression on ukraine is also that many important processes stopped at the beginning of 2019 a-a a norm was adopted for with which ukraine can also trade in code in accordance with the polish e-e protocol, but this was adopted on the basis of such a framework part, and

after that it was necessary to adopt the relevant resolution that already regulated on the ground how exactly the trade will take place quotas were some kind of pilot but now, in the context of ukraine, we cannot talk about emissions trading because we don't even have this online monitoring, uh, we all in dnipro have been emphasizing for years that online monitoring is the key to ensuring that we in the best way and in the fastest way were able to comply with the norms of european legislation and therefore use all the tools, environmental tax, trading quotas and tools that can be mentioned and all the more so that now i suspect that because many industrial enterprises simply destroyed, then our miscarriage is not so big, well, ukraine could have benefited from it. by the way, if you want to see for yourself how the trading of quotas helped ukraine in the past, you can look at the cars

that ukrainian policemen drive, here are these toyota prius which electric or hybrid , they are precisely the result of such trade in quotas, the japanese government, as far as i know , helped in this way and provided ecological cars to the ukrainian police. in this way, emissions were reduced and everyone benefits from that to talk about international trade, it is very often not just tariffs , but barriers that become such and such a reason for one country to reject the goods of another. now we see rather economic arguments when it comes to grain trade with the european union and ukraine, but sometimes we can remember earlier that they talked about gmos about contaminated e-e products and e-e such statements, they restricted trade, i.e. ecology

and precisely the purity of products, it is such a tool and trade struggle between e-e countries, respectively, if we want to our goods were sold on european markets, we have to comply with their regulations, er, in a previous conversation with me, you said in a pretext that now there is a threat, that there is some er, decision of the cabinet of ministers of ukraine resolution of the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, which allows polluters not to comply with er, some norms could you tell me in more detail what kind of resolution this is, who it concerns in the first place , what it can lead to of course, if we immediately make a short comment about export, if we are talking about the possibility of exporting, why products are not only food products, which are already certified according to the standard of 14,000 animals, we are talking not only about

the certification of food products, which ukraine used to bet on, it is also the certification of products produced by large-scale industry, namely the forest, or any export minerals and that's why our internal ukrainian law-making initiatives must comply with the norms about which the european union has prescribed in all these environmental directives only more than one and a half thousand and we see that step-by-step blondement is difficult for ukraine, and that is why public support is constant - this is one of the keys , and when a against a-a is obviously a good step , logisticians and entrepreneurs who do not want to pay this excessive environmental tax , that is, an environmental tax for excessive emissions a-a happened what i want to tell about means at

the beginning of er at the end of march, the beginning of april, our parliament because the government announced er that the resolution number 272 was adopted, it has a long long name will not emphasize what kind of resolution was it submitted it was like a-a victory victory of the public victory of the environment itself that will be installed this online monitoring that i have already mentioned that will help the enterprise to understand whether its emissions are excessive, what substances it emits the most and, accordingly, not only to pay a large environmental tax, you it is not about extorting money from us, it is about working out a step-by-step plan by which the old enterprise will be able to modernize.

online monitoring at old enterprises, the decree stipulates that only new enterprises, i.e. , those that will be created after the adoption of the decree , and only a-a within five years from the end of the war , when the official martial law ends, have the obligation to install this online monitoring martial law no, i may, you know, i do not know for sure when we will enter the borders of 1991 or when russia developed, we do not understand this, and therefore there is no legally prescribed norm when this monitoring can be established, this is the first secondly, the norm is to set it only for new enterprises. this is just a fiasco because the heat of the salon mitov, or if we are talking about tpp , there is darnytska tpp on the left bank of kiev, i will understand very well now, which is already a very old soviet enterprise that emits excessive emissions from the lysage of products burning, and it is precisely for such old enterprises

that online monitoring is needed. we have never done it, and that is why this monitoring is so critical. when we will be able to conduct an audit conditionally and see in real time which exactly what substances are emitted in what quantity for each old soviet enterprise we will be able to develop a modernization plan why exactly modernization is important because it affects the health of each of us there are so-called risk groups that will be affected first of all people who have, i don't know, acute respiratory or children or pen will be confirmed to a large negative impact due to excessive emissions and this can lead to an exacerbation or even to unfortunately, ecological oncological diseases and we can not carry it out for the attention i

i understand the ecological meaning of this and the meaning for health, but if we talk about interest groups, interest groups, lobbyists, we have literally 1 minute who is behind these changes. do you know who lobbied for them and why we can now correct something? indeed, this amendment was adopted outside of public discussion and therefore it was not lobbied by the ministry of the environment, which we already have an answer from - the environment. and at the moment of sending the resolution to the government , therefore , someone is malicious with the government. energoatom, whoever pushed through this amendment and the cabinet of ministers, violating the law, violating all the norms of discussion, adopted the entire resolution, what can we do to actively speak out and create a working group, now a working group has already been created under my environment, but this is not enough , the necessary public pressure and also interested entrepreneurs because, first

of all in addition to health, there is an impact on entrepreneurs who lose the opportunity to receive quality monitoring on the pipe and therefore to plan their modernization so that their enterprise corresponds to the forms of european legislation, and therefore the export of products was approved by the european union when we joined it. thank you, ms. anastasia anastasia skoka, the environmental director of the save dnipro public association, was in our program talking about the new regulation , which actually cancels the possibility of modernization of old soviet enterprises, this is also about unfair competition i would like to add that if you are now creating a new enterprise according to the most modern environmental standards, then you cannot compete with those entrepreneurs who do not comply with these standards the rules should be the same for everyone, and of course, if we don't want to be such a dirty factory in europe and want to be a developed

, technological and innovative country, we need to adopt the best practices of the european union and not stick to these soviet practices, which unfortunately still exist andriy yanitsky, leading economic programs on espresso tv see you on monday at eight in the morning together we will win events the most important events events that are happening right now and affect our lives of course the news feed reports about them but not much to know what is happening, you need to understand antin borkovskii and invitations experts soberly evaluate events analyze them by modeling our near future on saturday at 12:10 with a repeat on sunday at 10:10 studio event with

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my social networks are open for him, i am waiting for him, i hope he will return it, and his computer paid for the computer and left, maybe it was stolen there, or he sweated, the computer could be by the computer somewhere someone turned on the internet, the computer does not turn on anything, serhiy's mother said that on the first day of the full-scale war in mariupol, it was already