[000:00:00;00] the field of computer technology, again because i remind you of all these programs, which we generally call artificial intelligence , they are anyway based on some kind of computing base, i.e. microprocessors and so on . -e of what is happening in the modern world the 2022 nobel prize in physics has finally put an end to the issue of the so -called non-locality of quantum locality of our world and we are moving into the era of quantum computing and further than exactly and it is possible to explain this phenomenon a little easier for our viewers. i am coming to this and just at the beginning of this year, president biden , the president of the united states of america, directly raised the issue of limiting the spread of technology, not only ordinary standard microprocessors, which we

already know microelectronics from of the 50s of the last century, but already so-called quantum computers, what is a quantum computer - it is a computer based on laser radiation that is directed in er in this or that so-called qbit quantum bit for what it gives it gives acceleration of calculations in order not insults but tens of hundreds of thousands of times because the speed of quantum interaction it well i don't want to scare anyone they can misunderstand me and laugh but it exceeds the speed of light, this has also already been proven. that is, we are getting a physical basis for creating a computing system that, in terms of its computing power, will exceed everything that has been created on earth so far, and now we are already physically calculating on this system. we will add the software that is being developed now, like me, is called to be suspended and we are getting

the same uncontrollable, unforeseeable consequences for humanity, and one of the consequences of which will be the replacement itself. you and i remember all four stages of development, so we are already in the post-information age on a simple information system, and this means that we have replaced human muscles, machines are already performing , human-like robots are already appearing in what they do, including only the mentioned musk , elon musk, but now we are replacing his intellectual work, that is, we we replace the same generative artificial intelligence, it claims to create an artificial artificial consciousness with sensations and emotions, and so on. and that's why, including because of this , not only the democracies do not control , the vector of the development of technology is simply not understood. all the politicians of the world. that let's at least

stop and understand where we are going and how it is at the level of democratic societies eh control what concerns the totalitarian state supports again eh p timofia that we do not know what is happening, we can assume that we, like all those who came from the soviet union, know how it worked there, the party set the task of the people 3. there is a discussion in democratic societies and it is about the fact that i will remind even one example once the intel corporation was divided into two due to anti-monopoly various alkeras appeared in the legislation, but they had and so on in order to, among other things, control the government by the democratically elected government of the society of the state control these corporations by technological corporations so that they do not replace in essence, with oneself democratic planning, which and if this happens, then there are problems of a social level that if we do not

control technology, then humanity itself becomes unnecessary i still don't know how to look at humanity in such a global way, because at least there is no answer to what kind of civilization we are on this planet, who was before us, what would have existed on us? we don't know the answer. people don't even have an answer in principle. appeared on this earth, the theory of evolution explains a lot, but it does not explain a lot , so if we take, say, the theory of creationism, then in principle man is also if he was created by god , whoever we are, whoever we call god or aliens or some entity, man was also created, but man actually got out of control, leaving the garden of eden , violating the laws of god, well, that is, if you look at it in our situation, that is, you can also consider man, conditionally speaking, created by something, a creature that came under the control of the creator. what did this lead to on earth, so here is the question i have now, it is possible, no , um, not so urgent, because now this question certainly does not stand, but in the future it may stand. moreover, now time is speeding up and

many things that could have lasted for decades are now happening a week in two in a year at most and a lot changes. therefore, the question of whether artificial intelligence can get out of control is an important question. and again, here it has been shown a lot in various films. of events and all these events, to be honest, for some reason they never ended in anything good. of course, there is drama in the cinema. happy does not always happen, but still it is alarming, mr. timofey. i have a question for you. managers - these are companies that they looked at something that we haven't seen yet, they calculated how it will develop in some kind of geometric progression, they said stop no, wait, we will stop controlling it somewhere at some stage and we don't know what will come of this, please p tymofiy in my opinion, the danger is more in people and not in artificial intelligence

. imagine the kremlin that has learned how to make androids and control them with the help of an artificial intelligence model, so even people will not be needed by the kremlin and this is how the voters interfere with them, so they are sometimes trying something there or have tried once upon a time, voting was different, now there will be eternal putin and an army of robots , and this well, it seems like a fantasy, but you just showed roberts, robert sofia, well , russian, but hmm, on the screen, so maybe it’s not such a fantasy as it seems, of course, robert sofia is doing it right there, sofia is quite weak, it’s more for pr , but there are many open models and it will be very difficult to keep this technology, that is, it will not be possible for this technology to be available, for example

, in a democratic society and not available in an authoritarian or a society where dictators rule therefore, the immediate danger lies in the fact that dictatorial authoritarian leaders can use this technology for propaganda manipulation and polarization over time and in order to control society already in the real sense, not only in the informational sense here. the question is that i think now for western countries that technology is still key. well, even though that is how we talk about chinese artificial intelligence. i think that the key technologies are now still in the hands of those companies that represent the western world. in the western markets of the main well, there is their how they are that it is so this outbreak of artificial intelligence development in democracies is precisely connected in my opinion with the fact that some authoritarian countries have achieved quite significant

results, especially in the military applications of artificial intelligence, mr. oleksandr, this is an important question for you, because i don't know if there will be a global confrontation of a global institution of the global east led by china , because russia is unlikely to lead this global force, but of course artificial intelligence can play your good and memory do you read this story once in syria , if i'm not mistaken, group heaters were destroyed, somewhere around 400 people, helicopters arrived at night. well , they tried to move these gas towers, in my opinion, they are oil gas, which belonged to and was controlled by the us. warned not to go there, they went and were actually destroyed at night by helicopters there with the help of joysticks that we controlled people who were sitting somewhere in this well, this is such a very good indicator of how machines fight with people with people who are a little limited and who do not very well understand who they are fighting with therefore, i am leading to the conclusion that in the perspective of a military confrontation , artificial intelligence can play important

roles when a projectile will aim with a range of centimeters to the left and centimeters to the right at any target, then in principle it does not matter how many people mobilized, it is impossible how much equipment you collected, all this can be destroyed very quickly, as the latest american developments are currently showing in this war, and here is the question , alexander, what can china come up with , china, which, let's say, tried to somehow dry up motor sich in ukraine for that to make high-quality motors because i don’t understand them myself. they don’t make them, that is, they don’t do something. and what could they do ahead of or in secret from the west or ahead of the west? mathematics , first of all , a continuation and confirmation of what mr. tymofiy said, to date, the total computing power of the people's republic of china, the computer power of the people's republic of china exceeds the entire world

fleet of supercomputers. activities, first of all, uh , the king of the so-called artificial intelligence, it's all connected precisely with the silicon valley and the banking system, now uh, about the military application, you say that it will happen someday. no, it is already becoming the same well-known , already infamous lancets, cubes, and so on. carries out the search for targets, how did they combine the ammunition because some kind of aircraft with my head and put it on top of it conventionally speaking, i am now

receiving it so as not to cause laughter again in phone face recognition and already this integrated system causes a lot of damage today on the battlefield, that is, you don't need to create long-range artillery anymore, you don't need any ballistic missiles , this class of the latest class of weapons is enough, it's highly accurate, it's really there, there's just a fluctuation, the probability of deviation is literally there percentages it already reaches if in meters it is really about 1/2 m and it is already changing the essence of the nature of the war and the further it is, the more it literally is today mr. chimizov is

the head of the russian federation, he has already introduced declared on their victory day that they are increasing the production of daggers, and on the other hand, i perfectly understand that they are also increasing the production of lethal autonomous weapons, such as the same low-cost ammunition that can radically break the course of the war now with regard to china, or china in ukraine e- to put it mildly, i borrowed motor sich. it was only the tip of the iceberg, all the technologies that were created in ukraine, laser gyroscopes , special materials, special coatings , everything that was developed, unfortunately for for many years ended up in the people's republic of china officially sold er officially sold corruptly sold through official and unofficial ways enough . who cares. let's investigate the history of how the ukrainian, well then already ukrainian aircraft carrier version

got to the people's republic of china together with designers and 20-ton documentation and was transformed into the leonin aircraft carrier, and for some reason the documentation for the atomic version of the next 90 years ago, as you know from history, i was in e-e graduating from the national assessment, the university has already accompanied chinese groups of students. it was 2000-2001. there were a lot of them here. now they are all about 45 years old. i understand the class very well . the height of technological development is just as you said that someday there will be a confrontation between the prc

and the usa . today, the main war is being waged precisely in the field of computing power and so-called artificial intelligence , because what is artificial intelligence in military application and management application , it is the speed of making and the quality of making accurate decisions, increasing the accuracy of decision-making for the military - this is a necessary function of life in general. of course , the so-called military artificial intelligence will be developed regardless of any democratic control and so on, all laboratories will be directed to the military or are aimed at speeding up decision-making and improving the accuracy of their weapons. just now, add timofey, first of all, i

want now to confirm the words of oleksandr , let's listen to the russian propagandists. fantasy about drones , you talked about a lancet, let's listen to what they said on russian television , drones are becoming more and more formidable weapons, and mine can fly. deadly well, they already have an artificial intelligence that in a duel a human wins, and for drones in the future they are already fully experimenting with artificial intelligence . not far behind in the west, in early april , the american company general atomix reported on successful tests of the m-q20 evenger drone equipped with artificial intelligence western press

they believe that soon such devices will open a new era of warriors. actually, if you know, gary kasparov once beat a computer in chess, then the computer really was much weaker than now . such a story once was about the confrontation between man and machine. why put artificial intelligence , on the one hand, it is a possibility, on the other hand, it can be full control, well, over a person, and even control that he will not notice. and so uh, relatively speaking, if artificial intelligence will be in all your applications in social networks, communicate with you, offer something , motivate, push or, on the contrary , push away, and you will be completely manipulated, thinking that it is your friends who are talking , or well, it can reincarnate, impersonate someone the other is an infinite and infinite possibility. reincarnation here is a question again. timofey, in your opinion, it is still more possibility, the more control, and the control is absolute, absolutely control over a person over his whole life, on the one hand, it can be good for someone if

it is a person, otherwise it is vladimir putin, there is no need to control it, but for someone it can be bad . please, people have freedom of will. does a person want to make this decision, there are many people who do not even have critical thinking, and there are many societies, and we lived in such a society in the soviet union where people were systematically taught not to think and follow the party line, and for most people they did it enough successfully mm and it was done without any artificial intelligence with the help of psychological techniques of the special services of the kgb and there is quite a lot of experience in how to do it effectively , therefore the attempt of some people to control others it will always be and it is limited precisely

by the political capacity of humanity or the society of states not to let someone seize power, so that in simple words it is competition, political, economic, financial, and this is about what mr. oleksandr said about this , about the need for strong regulatory bodies, as an example of where corporations are divided when they have too much power, but what to do with states that have too much power or too much desire to use power and today the world has no answer to this and in fact this is a big problem of the world with the last the whole history of mankind there because of this i become free because of this i die there are many people and this problem must be solved by artificial intelligence. this is just one step in this. and regarding social networks today there are

algorithms, they determine what you like, they push you content that you like, they are society, they create such echo-chambers, what are called bubbles, in which it seems to people that their only correct point of view is theirs, and this can be controlled, strategic communications, strategic political communications are quite developed today, and i am looking at how it can be used, there are examples. i am studying these examples because the enemy needs to know where he will find not only in the face technologically, as russia , for example, uses propaganda and simply uses it, i also suspect either the gpt chat itself or some alternative in order to

to study how it is better to promote propaganda on its territory for its people, citizens of russia and in europe first of all, and i would say that this is a real problem and it must be fought, i also want to ask here and please tell me what is the potential of ukraine i understand that ukraine has actually lost a third of its economy, a lot of people have left, a lot of brains have left, let's be honest , experienced experts, not all of them will return, certain technologies have been lost , it's obviously possible, well, at least production capacity, and then, but a ukrainian today has potential in the development of artificial intelligence and, in general, in fitting into this new world that listens to you, i understand , the question will still arise, the only thing is that the politicians there are delaying something, let's rethink . let's develop so quickly, but in principle , it's all clear, it will happen the question is where we will be and what it will be like. oleksandr, ukraine is intellectually the most important thing in this matter. well, politically , it also has prospects in this new

world, in a world in which man will coexist with artificial intelligence and in the matter of weapons. by the way, it is also very important, well, in the new world, it is very important, as we can see . to believe in the best is again about quantum not locality one must think positively one way or another you remember at the beginning of the program he showed a book a big book created by ukrainian minds so even in the ukrainian language in the 73rd year we have a school of science the most important thing is always science even if there will be two scientists left, from them it will be possible to raise a whole school, a whole galaxy, and around them raise students who will continue to do this

high mathematics. - this is only a practical application of mathematics. i would like the number of hours of mathematics in schools and universities not to be reduced in ukraine . unfortunately, you are watching a little so far. i want to remind you that when the president came to power in my opinion, he declared the 20th year the year of mathematics, and it was a very positive step from the point of view of scientists. well, we took it very positively with nadiya. this is how it produced its

microprocessors , which were enough to produce at least the armament of the control system of aircraft, ground vehicles, heavy equipment, etc. what kind of neuro-networks was found there in a broad sense, so i will answer that at least in today's state of development of ukrainian society, which for thousands of years has always been democratic in its nature and resists totalitarian eastern asian ideology . we have a chance. correct of course, as of today, there are no alliances with other democratic states, i will directly say, first of all, the united states , which are really the leaders both technologically and financially in this segment of technology development of humanity, we will also need computing power in any case, i.e. the same microprocessors

that they produce, we need to join the scientific community in this field because one way or another, we are already in the 73rd year. as you remember we developed actively, but then lagged behind, all this is so far based on the efforts of individual specialists , individual scientists, well, we can say the modern rockefellers, uh, because i mean in ukraine, so that just sums up what we have a chance if people have a desire and a little bit of political will, then we will manage to hold on, i will not say leaders to the leading part of humanity, and we will be able to use our intellectual potential to join now again does not want to be laughed at, but the point is that humanity should become an intergalactic one, well at least at least first

within the limits of its solar system, er, a galactic nation, then misha is laptic between the electric species, because otherwise on its planet earth, with the rate of population growth, it’s easy for us there will not be enough resources and this is already happening, it is true, unfortunately, few people talk about it, and they want to think about it, i am more than convinced that people, in principle , once colonized this land, maybe someday there will be evidence for this but in principle , i have well, i am sad which there are none, but people need to develop. i asked, i asked my colleagues, they asked about artificial intelligence, we asked at the beginning of the program whether artificial intelligence is a threat to humans, and now we asked whether humans are a threat to artificial intelligence, this is what the gpt chat answered us a person can be dangerous for artificial intelligence if he uses it with malicious intentions or is able to create an artificial intelligence that will turn out to be uncontrollable or unruly, but actually here

he makes us understand that it is you who are the key now in this matter and i am ultimately responsible for you i will quote jeffrey dinton, who was the godfather of artificial intelligence, he left google to speak and work on minimizing the risks from the development of what he created, he himself realized that he created and now says that everything must be done to somehow minimize possible risks and i want to from literally two minutes, but i will ask you, timothy, about artificial intelligence in medicine and in many other important things, let's say in air traffic control so that planes do not fall to perform operations, to treat deficiency, many other things work here. maybe it is better to work actively with artificial intelligence, this is happening now, and i have an application, for example, for recognizing medical errors in

real time, there is an application for recognizing in the analysis of diseases, there is the use of artificial intelligence for the recognition and coordination of various analyzes when doctors may not be able to cover all the information, so here it will be very helpful in such practical areas and it will create a threat for people who are not enough have professional skills and are not creative enough, in which brain plasticity in development is low , that is, you perform routine work, but this process has been going on for many, many years, if not centuries. speed, therefore, it will simply speed up these threats to people, if a person is certified creative and ready to learn, and then he will be able to use artificial intelligence and in such

applied concrete fields for the benefit of humanity. trembled at the thought that they would finally discover a secret that would provide a shorter way to oppress people and destroy entire nations, that is, in the 18th century he wrote the sheremetist, and now this question is very relevant, what can really be created something that can destroy whole nations and can give these people a perspective on mathematics i am a humanitarian, but i loved mathematics even though i studied there in the 80s and 90s, they were difficult there were times when there was not always enough time for science well, but i perfectly understand that mathematics must be taught and well here i don't like lomonosov, i didn't think so of course, but he correctly said that mathematics is already behind the topic of knowing that the mind is put in order, in principle very correct and good words, we will believe the people who are now at the helm of certain decisions, technological and political, that they are all

they will use it for good. thank you for joining us. it was very fruitful and important. we had a conversation. tymofiy milovanov was with us. now i will voice it. but it is disappearing from me. so, excuse me, please, i will tell you who we have . oleksandr los was with us, he is an officer of the armed forces of ukraine , a doctor of technical sciences, we had a great conversation, an important topic of conversation, you know, war takes a lot of time, emotions, attention, but today i decided not to talk about victory and other things my colleagues will tell you more, we talked about perspectives that must be preserved anyway and about threats that exist threats outside of war , because war is in many ways only a product of those storms and problems and conflicts that have not been unnoticed for a long time, war is always the result of