[000:00:00;00] now you can even see there is a jr-code. i hope today we will close it, we will help our guys in the southern direction and now uh , my broadcast is ending uh, the espresso broadcast continues serhii rudenko his verdict uh , congratulations to serhiy, congratulations to olga, literally in a few seconds we will start verdict this is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today may 10, 441 days of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers over the past day the armed forces of ukraine shot down six enemy drones in the sky over ukraine three of them like chess, reports the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, valery zaluzhnyi refused the meeting with the heads of the nato

general staff in brussels, which is taking place today. well, due to the difficult operational situation at the front , the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine reported that at the judo championship in qatar , spectators with st. george's ribbons were expelled , actually as it should be, in the meantime, the russian occupiers continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine, as of the morning of may 10, russia has already lost 196,000 in ukraine 310 people in just the last day of this force of ukraine destroyed 690 orks with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 3736 tanks, 7275 armored combat vehicles , 339 artillery systems, 555 rocket systems , a hall of fire, 308 means of anti-aircraft defense, 308 aircraft, 294 helicopters, 5974 units of automotive equipment 18

ships, boats, 970 cruise missiles, 2,624 drones, 389 units of special equipment, the occupiers are fleeing from the bombardment, a living shield for putin, japan is making a move, donato, we will talk about all this and more in the next hour i would like to introduce our first guest today, this is oleksandr khara, an expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies, oleksandr . good day. good health to you and i am glad to see you on our broadcast. good day, mr. serhiy. er, yesterday the leaders of the post-soviet countries from central asia, plus armenia, plus the self-proclaimed president of belarus lukashenko gathered in moscow, and we know that this meeting that

took place yesterday on red square was er impromptu because, as of may 8, only the leader of kyrgyzstan confirmed that he would be in moscow, then during a work visa, during a work visit, he would attend a parade according to your what happened yesterday, why did putin need the leaders of these countries? well, why did they actually fly in to moscow, when they clearly understood that anything could happen outside of red square. and the ukrainians warned about this. well, i think that the lonely tyrant wanted to show that he is not lonely, that there are any allies or junior partners . of course, this was part of russia's plan plus to show that russia has a process of influence, at least somewhere especially considering that after the west fenced itself off and began to reduce its similarity at first and in general the pictures with the russian federation then russia was transferred to this

republic well, by the way, very interesting statistics were made public just last week regarding in what way and how much has the circulation of the european union with these countries increased? well, of course, that they are all due not to the increase in the standard of living in the central asian countries, but actually to the fact that they i would say this factor of the belarusian of lobsters, that is, how since the 14th year belarus enjoyed the war in ukraine and traded with the west, helping to put distance. so now the central asian countries are actually making its juice. it is very interesting. what, for example , to kyrgyzstan, the export of german goods will increase by 994%, and to tajikistan 150 well, a large number of dual-purpose goods go primarily through kazakhstan to the russian federation, so of course it was important to them that i, as

the president of these republics, will be present, although by and large we see probably the last time we see them in the language of zoology , even as in the holidays, because what is happening is that russia is losing the ability to influence this region and will no longer play such a role in the economic and most important safety equipment as the chinese threw on may 18, let's say this is how the five presidents of the central asian republics will be given to china to hold exactly that senzipinyam, well, this is actually a symbolic transfer of the colony from moscow to e-e near kiev. you can say that, but they needed to be there because if russia cannot protect or solve their problems, then it can create for them, for example

, the same ones for kazakhstan or is it more . - russian patriots on the territory of kazakhstan, and by the way, in this context, it seems to me that it is a shame for the kazakhs to help russia get by where they can earn some money now, but in this way they will follow a rather aggressive and unpredictable rooster that has interests, including in northern kazakhstan , so let's see, let's hope that it means that we will actually end the life of this chimera and she simply will not have the opportunity to convalesce somewhere else , including in central asia, well, that is, you are convinced that dev in may 2024, there will either be no parade at all or

there will be no one there anymore, well, in fact , it was yesterday. in principle, with our war, or rather, with a war against us, putin is killing all the basic myths of the russian empire, then the soviet union . well, there can be no third rome in modern russia , because there is an orthodox church in ukraine , most of the parishes, most of the churches are located on our territory, that is, russia has no argument that it is the largest orthodox country. and it actually has some kind of separate dialogue with this third rome, which in fact is heresy for us. the second point is the collection of land. russian, he has not yet managed to take land, russian, and not by hybrid methods like this. it was with yanukovych and then the hybrid war of 514, well, now it is clear that ukraine was not submitted to them, and then after planting the soviet myth -

it is a victory in the great war, saving the world from nazism, and by the way, i did not listen to anyone who spoke . it is possible to listen to putin, but i read it yes, this is a parallel reality, so that russia actually won this war, saved the world, and now it is doing the same. and the west, like the nazis of their time, started this real war against russia, and then even expressed regret that the ukrainians are suffering something, that is, some me i don’t know the conditional good ukrainians of this conflict, which they didn’t start, but they are used somehow and written, but in any case, the myth of victorious invincible russia and victorious in terms of victory over nazism or fascism was actually written down as an answer to us these qualities are dissipated er significantly, that is, you can’t build anything else on it, and that is exactly why there will be no biological basis

or foundations in russia to continue to exist, because the paintings in which it is there , because explain er i know the storm is there. why do they have belarusians? now when they somehow failed to defeat the ukrainian national poster, it will be extremely difficult to find something new , not ethnic, non-historical, not turned back, but into the future. we see. i hope that with the help of the armed forces of ukraine, we will in fact dispel this myth to the end and in fact russia will not be able to exist. considering that all myths will simply be destroyed so that the state does not exist if they are built on the past and not

ideas of some kind of kids mr. oleksandr yesterday we were waiting for the statement of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine and we waited for the visit of the leaders of six former post-soviet states to the parade to putin, the foreign policy department of ukraine condemned the participation of the leaders of armenia, kazakhstan , kyrgyzstan, tajikistan, turkmenistan , uzbekistan, as well as the self-proclaimed president of belarus in the parade to the war criminal at the same time at the same time we saw at this parade when the so-called patriarch of moscow and all russia kirill was next to the war criminals and in the background this raises again a lot of questions regarding the branch of the russian orthodox church in ukraine and the status of the church to which the moscow church is related. why do you think the ministry of foreign affairs condemns the visits of the leaders

of the post-soviet countries to the parade to the war criminal ? despite the fact that, well, here he is cyril, here he is next to putin , here he blesses the same soldiers to kill ukrainians. well, he is, in principle, an accomplice or sharer of vladimir putin, and this should somehow be expressed in some certain decision regarding prohibition of rpc branch is this after all not a political issue and some kind of socio-political issue that does not directly relate to yesterday's event? i think there are two aspects, of course, internal political ukrainian stability in ukraine, since this church is russian. octopus launched its tentacles quite deep into the ukrainian territory, we see that even such territories, which

are more in the west of ukraine and should have been less under the influence of russian propaganda, but there, too, there is riotous april, it is the russian peace, and of course what with it was difficult to talk to the parish priest. because we know what they believe. because it is absurd, it means that it is very difficult with some arguments. they reach all the people. imagine they believe that this is the only correct christian church that exists. and it will grant salvation. and we will tell them about what the patriarch hides with blood . that he is behind the person who supports both morally and organizationally these forces of invasion since the 14th year. of course , they don't believe it, it seems to them that this is america or some other trials of the devil and something like that, that's why i i think that we already have, let's say, our state leadership is considering, let's say, an approach to reduce the influence or presence or even the existence of this

branch of the moscow church in ukraine from the point of view of social and political stability in ukraine, and the external factor is the usual the reaction of our western partners is clear that it is now more adequate than it was before , because sometimes we were accused of encroaching on the private interests of ethnic, other, well, above all , russian, russian-speaking religious freedoms

, although in fact we do not have any problems with any other christianity it doesn’t work, although it seems to me that actually during the time when such crimes are committed when the support of the russian patriarchs was absolutely and it is time to step down and actually ban fsb offices in ukraine so that they would not have the opportunity to say so to influence domestic politics, and secondly, the most important thing is to use this time when it will be the least painful for our reputation in the west in education, because everyone understands the essence of this presence of this church in ukraine, against the background of this, there were reports that they are going to open an office in japan nato of course, this caused a reaction in asia because this is the first such office of the north atlantic alliance, the chinese say

that this is unacceptable, although we know that japan is not a member of the north atlantic alliance, but that's how war turns out russia against ukraine has activated all countries towards the north atlantic alliance finland has already joined nato sweden is on the way and japan is now showing curtseys towards nato japan understands that it is better to be with the strong than to constantly suffer from the e-e of the chinese side and the pogrom of the chinese side of the north korean side what do you think the japanese want? it is clear that there is a long-standing conflict with the northern kurils and that the japanese consider it their territory. russia considers it its territory.

japan would never have existed if there had not been a war between russia and ukraine, according to you, china still considers the long-term perspective that they may become prospective members of the north atlantic alliance. well, you know, if you look at the map, the japanese are even less lucky than us. because we have vessels big crazy nuclear neighbor and they have three they have north korea there is the russian federation well there is china and in fact over the last few years china has increased its aggressive behavior and rhetoric in relation to talvan and we know that japan is actually under nuclear and in general, the security umbrella of the united states is the same, the same, the same. fakinava island is a base for american forces, and in the event of a conflict between china and taiwan , the united states will of course be involved , will defend this island, and of course

that will mean that the first rocket as february 24, 22 in the 19th year, we heard about the cornflower over there, about the guest house there, in other places, i mean, first of all, at the air bases, about the military object, the same thing can happen on the first day of the offensive or return and ivaniv gavan by force weapons by the chinese, that is, strikes will be made on er and on south korea and on japan, and it is clear that they are now trying to speed up their armament literally a month ago there they bought tomahawks and there are well, in principle, i understand that the japanese have big plans , although in fact literally the other day i spoke with a former japanese diplomat . he said that, unfortunately, society has not fully realized the dangers that exist. yes, they support the increase in

defense spending, but there is still not enough money to catch up with the gaps in the capabilities that japan needs to defend itself, first of all, not to mention playing a role in the security alliance with the united states, that's why it seems to me to be a very positive step. and by the way, this is one of the reasons why the chinese constantly talk about e- the fact that legitimate security in the interests of the russian federation must also be taken into account. china opposes nato because, like the russian federation, china, uh, it would be easier to understand or influence or uh, well, let's say, implement are such aggressive actions against states that are not members of the alliances, that is exactly why they oppose the quartet , they oppose any networks that the americans create in the region in order to restrain

this growing aggressive role of china, that is why they will be dissatisfied and say that the americans are destabilizing the situation , although in fact on the contrary, over the last year , the chinese have increased the number of launchers for e-e ballistic missiles, well , in fact, they are going to increase the number of nuclear missiles and thus achieve the same the parity that exists so far between the russian federation and the united states from the point of view of strategic nuclear warheads and means of delivery and then we see that by the 27th year the chinese armed forces should be ready to seize taiwan, this is not means that it will happen in the 27th year, but it was a clearly set task. well, in fact, against the background of these statements, against the background of building up the military capabilities of those violations of the airspace of taiwan, what china is doing is also

compatible. by the way, with the russian federation , training near the japanese shores near taiwan all this shows that the situation is not tense and it is not the japanese who want to open an office, but primarily beijing who sees opportunities in speeding up the unification with taiwan and ending its civil war and establishing hegemony in asia and hegemony in asia and then in the world, that is making the situation tense. by the way information has just appeared that putin has canceled the visa regime for citizens of georgia since may 15 , the ban on flights by russian airlines has also been lifted, and the sale of tours to this country has also been canceled by the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation a recommendation to russians to refrain from traveling to georgia, well, that is, moscow bows to tbilisi and tries to play with the georgians , we know that georgia closed its embassy

in 2008 and all visa issues regarding russia were handled by it, if i am not mistaken , what game is the swiss embassy in the russian federation playing? now putin is playing with georgia, and how can such a game end, first of all for the georgians, it is clear that he is trying to get the maximum resources he can in order to continue this war in order to to maintain socio-economic stability in the russian federation, yes, the sanctions that were introduced against russia are quite painful, but in the end, the russians manage to keep it in these balances in the country, and therefore it is clear that georgia, by the way, has also increased significantly, it seems more than a third of its exports to the russian federation. well, i am not an expert, but this gray e-e export or re-export of western goods, and so in this way, in fact, russia is trying to solve its urgent

problems, there are some painful ones now, i don't think that this somehow can radically change something, on the one hand, there is the georgian people who clearly do not support this aggression, who remember 2008, first of all, and of course, who are against the support of the russian regime, and on the other hand, there is a geography no one can remove it because the russian federation is too close to try to do something stupid and evil to georgians once again mr. oleksandr , the meeting of the nato military committee began in brussels today, in his opening speeches , the secretary general of the north atlantic treaty organization

of the alliance the stoltenberg alliance stated that it is necessary to prepare for a dangerous future because the war actually threatens the whole of europe. challenge democracy and our security and so we have to keep this in mind and also there are manifestations of terrorism and cyber attacks and also the threat of climate we must increase our efforts

in the face of such a new era of its strategic competition and also let us overcome the challenges that stand before us on the lines . rop bauer stated that valeriy luzhuj, commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, refused to meet with the nato general staff in brussels due to the difficult operational situation at the front, he literally said the following quote, i received it yesterday from the ukrainian team of young leaves, which was told that due to the difficult and tense situation at the front in the fight against russian aggression, it will not be able to participate in the meeting of the nato military committee, even via video link. well, almost synchronously with the expectation of a counteroffensive by the armed forces of ukraine, changes in the situation on the russian-ukrainian front, according to you , can the nato military committee, taking into account

what stoltenberg said, that there is a danger the future of not only ukraine, but also the whole of europe, to resort to some radical decisions regarding the future of ukraine. i mean the preliminary approval or , let's say, the discussion of the possibility of ukraine joining nato . -members of nato well, you know, i think, first of all, the people who have gathered now . they will discuss the military aspects of the situation in and in ukraine, of course, and in europe as a whole, but they are certainly not outside their positions who determine whether aid to ukraine is the speed is it a list

of weapons ? level should have representatives to accept and of course that now ukraine is actively working. we have also seen ukraine's statement. this means that the north is the north of europe, that is, in principle , ukrainian diplomacy is trying to accumulate a certain number of words in our support on paper and in statements, so that we have a clear the signal will be the day before, that's what we will expect. of course, the awareness that the risks of leaving ukraine again in the gray zone are greater for europe , including and not only for ukraine, and that is why a decision will be made to make ukraine as soon as possible a member of nato. to be honest, i don't think it will happen while we are fighting, but the window of opportunity will open based on the results. i hope for a quick and successful counteroffensive by our armed forces and

then, of course, what will happen. it is important that there is already at least there was no internal resistance in some countries, first of all france, germany, so that they understood that it is impossible to build this integral security from vladivostok to lisbon , that this is a delusion, that this is a mistake in thinking, that russia will always pose a threat as long as it is in those borders, and that is exactly why the free world should be fenced off and ukraine should be for this free world and georgia and moldova and i hope in the future belarus as well and actually only in this configuration russia will have no other opportunities to influence to europe and then they will take care of their own affairs and their own lives. well, i don't believe in the middle to the end, but at least they will have such a chance . that's why this meeting is

important. war issues are now the most important, first of all, secondly, such decisions are not made here, where uh, his word could outweigh some positions and give us more support or faster support or some other things. therefore, this is a pragmatic step uh, measure important but not so important e how to be to leave current affairs at the front by the way, the secretary general of nato and ann stolten in an interview with the washington post said that all the countries of the alliance agree to the accession of ukraine, all nato allies agree that ukraine will become a member of the alliance, all allies agree that ukraine has the right to choose one's own path in order to solve non-moscow and kiev problems, all allies agree that nato's door remains open . by the way, alexander, about this door and about this window of opportunity. as you said, stoltenberg

is talking about a door, and we are talking about a window. opportunities, but in this situation, well, obviously everyone is waiting for the nato city summit and some certain steps of the north atlantic alliance towards ukraine, we understand that our army now meets nato standards because the weapons are the most modern in the ukrainian army, that those who fight on the russian-ukrainian front are well prepared and they have much more experience than the soldiers or soldiers of nato member countries, according to you , how much time can objectively pass until the moment when we say whether we are there on the 34th on the 35th, as members of the north atlantic alliance, and somewhere near the mariinsky palace, we will raise such a flag, a nato flag, and declare

that we are a country that is part of this commonwealth. well, of course, i would like us to be 33 and the number is beautiful. yes, and this is right after sweden, but for by and large, i agree with the fact that our troops have shown that they are able to modernize on the go during the war, and are able to upgrade the most modern types of equipment, and you know that. patriot is such a complex system that ukrainians need a long time to master it. and now they say, well, it's true that the ukrainians shot down a hyper-missile, dagger. that is, these indicators are very important. of course, from the point of view of democratic civilian control, we are not up to the mark. such important parameters from the point of view of the political system, but even if this was not the case, let's look at the history