[000:00:00;00] of ukraine and representatives of the un the ministry of defense of turkey called the negotiations positive and constructive, stating that the parties agreed to continue the four-way meetings regarding the agreement, which expires on may 18. well, we are still waiting for positive results for ukraine, and for now we say goodbye and the broadcast will continue the verdict with serhiy rudenko. glory to ukraine is the verdict program my name is serhii rudenko . good day and good health to everyone. today is may 11, 442, the day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian invaders. zelensky said that he believes in the victory of ukraine before the elections of the united states of america in 2024. let me remind you that on november 5 , 2024, the presidential elections will be held. meanwhile

, one of the likely candidates for the position of president of the united states of america, donald trump, refused to call putin a war criminal and i promise that in if he is elected president of the united states of america, he will negotiate peace with putin. secretary of the national security and defense council danilov said that ukraine is currently trying to at the negotiating table on russia's terms, meanwhile, the russian occupiers continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine, as of the morning of may 15, russia has already lost 196,000,920 orcs in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 610 people at the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine, there are 3,740 tanks, 7,287 armored combat vehicles, 3,053 artillery systems , 557 rocket launchers

, 310 air defense systems, 38 aircraft, 294 helicopters, 5,984 vehicles, 18 ships, boats, and 970 winged aircraft. missiles - 2,627 drones 391 units of special equipment zelensky believes in the victory of ukraine in 2024 trump flirts with putin russians are scratching from under the bachmouth about this and other things today we will talk for the next hour i want to introduce today's first guest, this is volodymyr tsibulko , political expert volodymyr good day. good health. thank you for joining our broadcast. congratulations, we believe in our victory without a doubt, mr. volodymyr. let 's start our conversation with the latest statements of extreme statements of volodymyr zelensky to european journalists, in particular, the president of ukraine stated that he believes in the victory of ukraine

before the elections for the presidential elections of the united states of america, which are to be held on november 5, 2024, and when the president was asked whether he was afraid that international aid, and in particular the aid of the united states of america, could be limited to military it means that he said that he still hopes that by november 5, 2024 , ukraine will win over russia, and in general, he said that ukraine is making a bet on a two-party system on two parties that are currently competing with each other in the united states of america, what do you think about the uh-uh such uh-uh expectations of president zelensky and about november 2024 as the point by which ukraine must win over russia, well, first of all,

about the important in this statement, i consider the bet on bipartisan support of ukraine to be important, because zelenskyi has a certain experience , so to speak, of guardianship, so to speak , of domestic american politics. therefore, first of all , ukraine is a factor in the domestic policy of the united states and a topic ukrainian elections will be decisive in the attitude of this or that candidate and the voters to that or that candidate in order for the ukrainian victory to become, well, let's say this the most convincing. and the argument against the users of another candidate, especially from the current government, requires a certain time varnish of about six months to prove the success of the actions not to every voter, therefore, to really win it is necessary

in advance whether ukraine will lose the support of the united states if the fighting continues and it will not lose it is finally clear now because now we are part of a much more global scenario as we we remember that yesterday in japan they announced the beginning of the formation, more precisely, the beginning of the procedure for opening the nato office in japan. therefore , the security architecture of the world is now beginning to change , and the events on the fronts in ukraine are speeding up this process. the states really pay attention to ukraine and the ukrainian factor will not leave the columns of the american publications and from the mouths of the presidential candidates until the end

of the american elections. trump began to tell fables about the fact that he allowed me to fight . well, to his credit, it's really the first javelins were transferred to ukraine under trump, but with the prohibition of use on the demarcation line, therefore, here, so to speak, hypothetical assumptions , instead, a year has passed when the democratic majority of the eu formed the lend-lease law, and it was on may 9 that the first anniversary of the signing of the gas by biden of this law, in essence , with this law, joseph biden not only guaranteed the supply of weapons under any circumstances, if not through the grant system, well, it is through loans, but

ukraine would have weapons under any circumstances even if the configuration of the congress changes completely and both chambers will be dominated by the republics, therefore, under this law, ukraine is covered exactly, so to speak, with regard to the supply of weapons, but here it is important now that ukraine preserves all democratic institutions and democratic procedures within itself, because when we see attacks on business and freedom of speech, restrictions on the movement of deputies from the opposition faction, the participation of deputies in international conferences, it looks a little barbaric. that is, it does not correspond of the nature of the statement of the top leadership of ukraine about the rapprochement of the sign with the eu when internal politics in ukraine use completely russian management methodology well, this is important, mr. volodymyr, you have already mentioned

the likely competitor of joseph biden in the 24th election, donald trump, he was at the debate in the cnn tv studio and he was asked whether he considers vladimir putin to be a war criminal, trump said that he would not answer this question because he said he might have to the russian federation, and trump makes an equal sign with the russian federation and with putin, and he says that if we say that he is a war criminal, it will be much more difficult to impose an agreement to settle this matter, well , it means to end the war, trump is saying that this is true it was putin's mistake to go to ukraine and he would never have invaded ukraine if i were the president

, said trump, rejecting trump's bold statement in general, well, it is clear that trump is now trying to play such a world leader and who underestimated who but who can come and change something in world politics eh or eh according to you eh there was a chance that putin would not start a big war against ukraine because judging by the events that took place over the course of 20 years , russian-ukrainian relations were already on the fact that he has been preparing for the great war for all these 20 years, and this great war is the culmination of his political career. and in general , it is probably one of the key events of his life, and

his future will depend on this event. well, first of all, really putin he was preparing for this war and he was elected, well, he was elected by the elite and the elite, as well as a technical figure who would really return all the territories that had separated from russia, this was visible and we watched as russia rearmed these rearmament programs were hyperambitious and the western world, by the way, well, in the modernization system of the russian army, the following companies were involved in the country of countries, metal , for example, german companies consulted on the reformation of the russian army, and who was supposed to be in charge opponent of such of the army, this is the question, but when trump talks about the fact that it prevents negotiations with putin, well, the recognition of putin’s request for the recognition

of putin as a war criminal is actually cunning, because under the conditions of normal political leaders, negotiations with putin with putin imply the preservation of putinism as such. means simply postponing the war for the future, that is, in these statements, he is playing in the interests of putin, while, in my opinion , the majority of democratic leaders have matured to the point that putinism must be dismantled , that is, a ukrainian victory is not only day off at the border in 1991, this is a given, the clinicalization of russia is the dismantling of this fascist regime, this is ultimately the decentralization of russia, preferably with the granting of independence to those uh national uh state entities that are viable because there are , unfortunately, small nations that have autonomous

status in within the framework of russia, but they are not able to build a viable state in such parameters. that is why we need to think about other recipes , but in reality, trump with such statements reminds us of trump in helsinki, when he, like a rabbit, predicted putin simply wrung out, demoralized and essentially destroyed by victories with putin, and it seems to me that trump continues the game in the interests of putin , because what he is now talking about hypothetical direct negotiations with putin means that he is now preserving putinism. continuation, well, for the future existence of russia in

its current form. this is the same as the continuation of the global catastrophe. we still need to wait for the counteroffensive so as not to lose people, because for the past three or four months we have been hearing about the counteroffensive and there is great hope for this counteroffensive, zelenskyi said that it is unlikely that we will be able to reach the borders that were as of august 24 during this offensive in 1991, in a word, let's hear zelensky, with what we already have , we can go forward and i think we will succeed, but we will lose many people, i think this is unacceptable. that's why we need to wait, we

still need a little more time. against the background of what is happening with the counteroffensive, that is, the start of the offensive is being postponed. conditions of russia, and this thesis is also heard in parallel with the preparation of ukraine for a counteroffensive , can it happen that the leaders of countries that influence and can recommend there volodymyr to zelenskiy to postpone the counteroffensive, after all, to try to agree on something with the russian federation or, as danilov says, to sit at the negotiating table on russia's terms

, well, first of all, to sit at the negotiating table on russia's terms is again the same as what i am talking about said that the preservation of putinism does not suit anyone, the first is the second, and if there are no defeats at the front on the part of russia, there must be defeats of a catastrophic nature in the economy or some huge infrastructural cataclysms that put russia in a known weak position, so far it is considered that the only vulnerable place for russia is the front where you can quickly create a scenario, we are not only talking about the exit of the border of 1991, but for example the scenario of the liberation of part of the crimea and this is putin's mythology that will create internal

tensions in russia and will make russia weaker, more plasticine, you can say in the prigordo process, but here there is another and different situation when he is told about direct negotiations with russia, then well, this is a form of filling the information gap, because in in principle, we are not talking about victory over russia right now, but about a completely different configuration , for example, the basic un, about a completely different configuration of military blocs and uh on the planet because it is now in the middle of uh, may 18-19 in china a large, very ambitious conference will be held for the average of the five central asian regimes and c, and this is essentially the absorption of these regimes by china. well, it is with

the preservation, so to speak, of the norms of ethics of a certain type, but china is building a huge infrastructure in the amount of 50 billion dollars from china to these countries in essence er the ability to move goods in the city is instantaneous, well, very fast is provided by this infrastructure project, this means that china , fearing for losses at sea, is forming continental communication routes for the movement of goods, people from the armed forces, and the like, and now it is essentially the european union is becoming the main market, therefore, here is precisely for putin, on the one hand , it seems like a field for maneuver, but then he himself is afraid to dissolve in china, and on the other hand, china

is coming under russia itself eh. that is, eh, you can to say that under the current circumstances , only bilateral , well, only the war between ukraine and russia is an element of the more contextual efforts of many countries, and i mentioned the opening of the nato office in japan later in august, this is a combination of australia and great britain of the united states to put pressure on china in the pacific theater of war that is, a lot of processes are happening at the same time and we must always adjust our ukrainian ego with these events . the former minister of foreign affairs of selsu amorim and met with president zelensky. the voice of america reports this in

the ukrainian press. i did not meet this information . official information. to put an end to the war and we know that brazil is a member of the brics association where the meeting of this association or the summit will be held in the south african republic in on august 23, uh, i don’t know if they talked about this peace plan uh, with zelensky, well , does it mean the brazilian side or not , but it’s already visible the signals that are coming there that do not indicate that russia is obviously through brazil through

china, through other countries, is trying to come to some kind of peace plan with the ukrainians on the ukrainian side and with kyiv on your side, is it possible, and well, it is clear that not by way of er-e accession or transfer of final legal er-e from ukraine to russia to crimea, but what can to be the subject of this hypothetical peace agreement, well, first of all, there was hatred for america, he did not play , although after his visit to portugal, he is in a very strange situation, because putin is afraid even under any circumstances to go there, that is, it will take place in such a slightly truncated e- e formati but e-e the question of e-e such parasitism on the ukrainian topic for walda sel e-e it is not new he as a populist he will run his nose everywhere something that brings him

some popularity or weight unfortunately not a single constructive idea brazil is still for ukraine does not offer, although, as far as i know, brazil, in my opinion, produces ammunition for cheetahs for those er anti-aircraft systems, the number of them are on the german ones, which are now in service in ukraine, then he could put his stocks of shells to this complex and then parasitize on the ukrainian by the way , the former secretary of state of the united states of america, henry kissinger, also talks about the possibility of peace talks. he says that one way or another these peace talks can happen and he even said about the fact that he is ready to act on the american side in the negotiations with russia, we know that kissinger was once an adviser to vladimir putin and, in principle, negotiations should be held with whoever

gave you a job or paid money, well, these negotiations can be quite specific, especially when we are talking about the interests of russia and the interests of ukraine. why is kissinger pushing this topic? and although the answer seems to be obvious, it is possible that he has other plans, including regarding the candidates for the presidency of the united states of america, we know what is ukraine, it is obvious that the topic of ukraine will be one of the topics for future races in the eyes of the united states of america, we already mentioned the topic of ukraine in the american elections at the beginning of our dialogue, on may 27 it will be 100 years old and obviously it does not

have enough money for the jubilee events, because he could learn the phrase from the error деньги нужны during the time of service, well, working as a waiter in the kremlin, actually, well, some engineer pushes the prices of pro-russian narratives , but now they sound absolutely well , it makes more sense, because after all, he is talking about important role of china in mediation uh, but for now in kissinger’s model, uh, china can be a mediator for ukraine, well, that is, this mediation involves direct uh, lateral axis of talks between putin and putin, but why direct talks with putin in ukraine, they are in ukraine ukraine does not need the necessary negotiations within the framework of a large international conference where china will be a lawyer and then poland, poland

, the united kingdom, the united states, israel, germany, and france will sit as lawyers for ukraine, and then according to the consequences of these negotiations, if we do not reach a large security format and security guarantees for ukraine, then there is no meaning in these negotiations, everything else is just a truce, not a peace agreement, a peace agreement should provide for at least a hundred-year security guarantees and what does this mean , it means the decentralization of russia - this is a demilitarized zone on the border with ukraine 300 kilometers long, demilitarization of the black sea, further environmental damage ukraine has suffered several hundred billion environmental damages and they should be

the subject of reparations is also introduced, well, it is absolutely clear, and well, it seems that the answers to the questions we ask in our program are obvious, although it is clear that it is probably very important, uh, to watch how the brics themselves will take place, because this is also a challenge for uh- of the same vladimir putin because on the one hand the south african republic has ratified the rome statute and in the event of putin's appearance at this summit, he will have to be extradited to the international criminal court, and on the other hand putin eh well you have to show that he has something there, some boyish principles for him to really sneeze at the decision and at the order of the iss. what do you think, uh, will it come to the point that putin will still reach

this point at some stage when this warrant is uh, let's say so made public and he will be extradited, some party will still extradite vladimir putin to the international criminal court because there is no statute of limitations for crimes and no one will cancel this warrant except the judges of the international criminal court, well , first of all, this is the first order order in the first case a has another case - it is the destruction of civil infrastructure, they act with signs of genocidal acts, and there, in my opinion , lukashenko also appears in the case of the deportation of children , and in this case it is therefore interesting that along with such a decline lukashenka's health, what lukashenko left, the regime is now very actively pumping a reliable e-cream, also quietly began

to hint at certain problems with putin's health. obviously, this is connected with the method of e-e avoiding participation in the brx summit, although there is a circle to delegate to this themselves so what is this this is a small problem and whether will take personally in will putin take part in it? but it is likely that now they are really hanging the topic of putin's health as one of the most important arguments . the struggle of the bulldogs under the kremlin carpet. it simply burst onto the surface and in the russian consciousness - this is the destruction of unity, which has the signs of an internal

disaster. that is exactly why the bet is made not only on the frontline victories of ukraine , but also on the internal state of the administration. economy, ecology, because the territories of whole regions are burning there, and the russian regime is not doing anything . in this regard, there are a lot of factors of the general weakening of russia, and it is working for us, but china also wants to revive due to the weakening of russia, that is, here it is faster than all that er the question arises. when the putin regime er will be ready to press the stop button to stop and go to negotiations not on its own terms, which on any terms, because otherwise disaster is otherwise

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