[000:00:00;00] and first of all for their own population, and here they were in a certain dilemma when , on the one hand, it is necessary to show how powerful they are, that nothing has changed and that the traditional annual council of theirs will take place, on the other hand, they could not and cannot use this technique which in fact , tanks developed in the 1950s are used in the entire territory of ukraine, including in the social network for photos , which indicates that they are beginning to fight with this equipment, that is, not all it is in good condition, a huge amount of it was ground up by our armed forces with other units that give support to the aggressor and they are actually forced to withdraw from their organizations, again, here it is necessary, well , the whole world is gone, the whole world celebrates, does not

follow, marks the memory of sorrow for those who died in the second world war, some idiots simply continue this day victory only because they have nothing else to brag about, this is a state that is trying to steal, appropriate someone else's history , steal, appropriate someone else's culture, steal about in fact, it's someone else's holiday, and here they are, in fact, in that in that kazan, they are boiling, they can't get anything, they can't invent anything because they have to repeat it, go round and round . they sat there with sour faces, and just to watch this parade itself, as far as i read, it took place there for a record minimum amount of time, and here it is, here it is, and some were brought there barely alive

, and some were brought almost barely alive as the leader of belarus in particular, well, he looked bad and they say that he was really bad, they are mixed up now for their population, for their electorate, to show that everything is fine, that the situation may be difficult, but it is fully controlled, they continue to sell some organization, some uh, some other modern types weapons that they supposedly have and now they will launch two of them, but well , in fact, this is just such a game , so that at least for their people it looks like everything is fine and the situation is under control, although in reality everyone understands that it is far from yes. thank you. senior lieutenant of the armed forces of ukraine markiyan lopachak was with us via skype. pan-hgrebsky is coming back to you and again what we talked about with oleksiy danylo. do you think that russia is no longer in a strategic defensive position ? is it true that it is on someone else's territory, or can we still

expect some surprises that we expected , especially in the winter, you know, this is more informative, er, supported, but in the armed sense, the offensive that did not take place in the kyiv region, then all winter, in the winter, we were worried that the volyn the belarusian troops did not leave, and now it is defense in the territories they captured. do they still have the resources to try to surprise, so to speak, the whole world, except for nuclear weapons, about which we carry it by the paws, we must understand the following that e- this whole situation should be considered in dynamics, if we are talking specifically about may 11, 2023, then today

russia does not have such an initiative, but if we go back to the present day, we

have not seen active actions of the russian federation on some operational scale , that is, as you said that in the autumn, in the winter, we talked about some large-scale offensives from volyn, from the kyiv region , which even then looked quite sad. the grouping of troops in the area of ​​svatovo, flint and concentrated very powerfully to act on the bakhmut, avdiiv, marian directions, we were very worried about vugledar , but gradually you know the possibilities the capabilities of the russian federation were reduced like tasha grinjava skin, which was written about more than once. that is, today it has decreased to the size of desperate attempts to attack our units , not even in luhansk region, where according to the latest data from the institute of war

, russia's offensive operations do not continue, but literally in three locations it's bakhmut, it's avdiivka , it's maryinka vugledar. we haven't even mentioned avdiivka maryinka bakhmut in our conversations for a long time - these are three points where they continue to conduct hostilities due to inertia because, well, in fact, they are there have accumulated a large enough resource that allows investment, such combative children already summarizing our conversation with you and the first part of our program, i would actually like to focus on the fact that well, maybe we are in let's say this inside the story that is happening not to the end, we evaluate everything correctly because and the fact that the armed forces of ukraine succeeded because in fact in the winter we talked about potential offensives from many sides and literally two or three months have passed. well, not two or three weeks, two or three months and

now we are talking about the fact that the russian army essentially exhausted all its offensive potential. perhaps at this stage. at this stage, it is possible that this is also a huge success in the armed forces of ukraine, which in literally a few months were able to demolish a resource-powerful army in one way or another , perhaps not tactically and strategically powerful but resource -wise, it is still one of the most worn-out armies in the world . which made it possible to simply nullify the offensive potential of the russian army, today we have approximately the same situation when i am asked: where is the attack on kyiv, where is the attack from belarus ? allies, we continued and continue to gain positions

by actually destroying offensive ones. and in general , in general, the combat potential of the russian army . avdiivtsi and marines allowed us to say today that at this stage the russian army has lost its offensive potential and is forced to switch to such a strategic, if possible , defense. operations , serhiy grabsky, a military expert, is not the last in our studio, we will be happy to meet you here, and our audience is also here , there is a small pause in which we invite you to watch the material is precisely about this battle on may 9, which took place in russia, because in my opinion, the picture they created , first of all, in the truth for their audience, it looks quite revealing, how pathetic it all

looked, how pathetic their leader looks, and what kind of veterans he is besieged and wants to seem even more influential and powerful , but it’s not like that for a few minutes and we are already back with new guests in our studio, this is what the great lviv says , the shortest parade in history without tanks and

probably with putin’s doppelganger victorious the celebration in russia was not successful for us, please, girl, words and glory to you, in general, the parade lasted about 40 minutes and putin's speech was short . also stated once again that kyiv has become a hostage and a bargaining chip of the west, the level of those who cynically and openly prepared a new campaign against the russians, who gathered for this purpose neo-nazi poverty from all over the world there is nothing new here to achieve the disintegration and destruction of our country, they will cross out the results of the second world war, although after the parade, experts assumed that putin was not there, instead, his doppelgänger , nicknamed govorun, took part in the parade, they made the following conclusions because of his swollen face, that he looked more

athletic than putin himself also under his hand was twisted, probably from the catheter, so it is assumed that lukashenko is ill, but it was reported that lukashenko was accompanied to the resort by an ambulance in the kremlin explained that lukashenko was not at the breakfast due to the need to travel to the capital of belarus for events nato completes the largest update of the russian countermeasures strategy since the cold war the document of about 4,000 pages describes the first complete and unified reform of nato doctrine in three decades among proposals for changes in the military the strategy of the alliance, what does this mean? what are the prospects of ukraine in nato at 20:10 in the studio

, the great lviv speaks . i really like the version that the successes of the defense forces of ukraine have turned heads to putin, when he started speaking at the pobeda besiya parade, he forgot the president of which country he was and started talking about the fact that his country was attacked by them, his country was attacked by the nazis, well, that's actually all he does , together with his invading forces, this is the project of the great lviv we continue and in the second part of the program we already have more guests and the discussion will be more intense andriy sharaskin with us bohema cyborg people 's deputy of ukraine we congratulate you, we congratulate oksana savchuk people's deputy of ukraine non-factional evening svobody mykola

veresen is again a people's deputy of ukraine and european solidarity oksana yurynets, a people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation, as the head of the permanent delegation of ukraine in the nato parliamentary assembly, this is important for us because we talk a lot about nato, mr. mykola veresen, the first question for you, well , obviously, we have been trying to understand all week what did this parade mean, why was there so little equipment , how much did putin's speech about weakness, non-weakness, lead him astray? or maybe he doesn't pay attention at all he doesn't care what the totalitarian state will think about him in the initial interview, in particular, our colleague vitaliy and yours, vitaly portnikov, with whom you even have a joint television project . what is your opinion?

that if we compare the two tips of pobeda, we also remember last year, everyone expected eh , what will happen hmm at this pobeda parade, what will the presentation of putin say, he was sitting so covered with a blanket, now he and this is even their propagandists say, he was covering up in essence by the leaders of central asian states, i was afraid of drone attacks, well, there is such a version, what do you think? well, i don't play chess, i wouldn't even say how a horse walks there, or the letter g there, but i know the word ceftva. it just seemed to me that there was no way out , that is, it was impossible not to hold a parade well, then something definitely happened, it is impossible to hold a big parade, then everyone says and where and why are you shouting? well, why don’t we attack , and because the tanks are here, not there

? it's okay a as if only one t-34 and i would also note two more points, this is who was sitting next to putin, i just did not know about it, today in the council i found out that on one side sat a person who fought with oun-up in galicia, that is, nkvdist on the other side there were also these veterans from where they are as if they fought. they didn't fight, but they were looking for ukrainian partisans here, and on the other side sat a person who captured a czechoslovakian woman in 1968. so the company was simply flawless in that sense. and what is happening i don't i think that everyone takes me to clap but i think he is so weak and so irritated what now i think you should invite psychologists, social psychiatrists, some people who are not connected with any open circumstances, yes, there are journalists, politicians, they

would say something openly and what and what is putin hiding who he has a state of health, what can he think about, what do people think about when, uh, well, the sword hangs in the air, well, in the literal sense, and i don't believe that he doesn't understand it. i don't believe that he is told every day that there is no success, everyone all flowed they don't pick up the phone and he sits and thinks i'm a winner . well, i think i can't be like that, i think he understands something about himself. he 's not a stupid person at all, and he is accordingly . i'm convinced. yesterday i even talked to a person who worked with him and the truth and he says that uh, he uh, he initiates all these things . this is what is happening, it is not his advice, no one dares to advise him, but he comes and says, yes, it is necessary to organize such a parade, which would show, on the one hand, that there is a parade and on

the other hand, so that i am not mothered after the advice go and think and here they all went somewhere and began to think and everyone he invited the same thing, the state is a very complicated story. by the way, i agree with this version. lately, i am not a psychologist . but it seems to me that he is very afraid that everything is his behavior. and i do not rule out that these six leaders of the states, what exactly in order not to, not because, really, no matter what the war is, no one will shoot at six at a time, maybe two at a time . well, there is international legislation that prohibits the persecution of the first persons there well there back and forth, because if we remember the day before there was one in the morning, the day before there were two, and in the evening it was already clear that some more would fly there, how many were there, that's why i think that this is one of the reasons that someone advised him to come on, volodymyr

volodymyrovych, we will invite five more presidents, they will not dare to shoot any rockets there, and he is all about good, good, good thinking and that's all. it is not free to fight a war in general, it is desirable not to do anything in life without a plan. there should always be a plan b. if you don’t have a plan, you lost, this is the end of your story, so i think that we are on the eve of big changes, but without a doubt, history shows that we can say that pregnancy is a big change. but we cannot say when profitability will lead to childbirth, when it will all explode, we do not know and no one knows oleg semyuka, you will have a word, there is a version in society, so after the events of may 9 , what is

possible? look how there is a parade in russia , what difference does it make to us, but we certainly think that when we have a war with the russian federation, we cannot help but look at it , and in the end, there were always a lot of various incitements around this date that something might happen. they can somehow hit her, especially if they didn't hit her before, but on this very day and last year we were afraid of it and on this day too, don't be afraid it would be wrong eh but eh maybe we shouldn't even look there so much you know we should learn to be ukrainian-centric and we must look at all events from the point of view of and how does this affect ukraine and the development of ukraine? it seems to me that what happened on may 9 in moscow has no significance at all from the point of view of ukraine's interests , except for receiving an answer, which prompted

the presidents of the asian states to be present together with putin at the parade on may 9, because everything is clear with the self-proclaimed lukashenka , he is a prisoner of war, he follows all putin's commands, and here it is not necessary to pay attention to it, it should rather be used as a barometer or where does the weather vane turn because that is where he is being deployed by putin or where is he being deployed because he looks like that in this video as if he had been brought there directly, you know. to be honest , they are not worried about his health at all because of the fact that it does not affect ukrainian interests anyway belarus and everything that happens in belarus today is completely controlled by the kremlin and they will be executors of the will of the kremlin. therefore, it is necessary to understand that any threat from the territory of belarus zlyva, if it is necessary for the kremlin from the point

of view of nato of the united states, is that happened. i think they also have a question. what prompted the leader of kazakhstan to be at this parade? because before his departure to moscow, he gave a large enough interview , specifically an interview to say that kazakhstan will adhere to anti-russian sanctions, and what this means for kazakhstan it is very important. i think that here china showed itself to a certain extent. before that, china for the first time at the general assembly of the united nations voted for a resolution condemning russia's aggression in black and white, although this it was possible in the context of other cases, but this is the first time when china, by the way, the same kazakhstan supported the resolution of the general assembly , where the condemnation of the aggression of the russian federation against ukraine was written in black and white, and

i think that china was a player on red square in moscow. because what the presidents of the asian countries were there, it seems to me that this was still a coordinated situation and in beijing they knew exactly what would happen on red square, probably the best among the leaders of all other countries, what should be done to ukraine i i am convinced that we ukrainians must clearly implement our strategy. first of all, this is the course in nato and july, the twins themselves. it will be very symbolic for ukraine and ukrainians. we should not waste time looking at who was and who was not on red square. we must do everything to bring the free world together . said we invite ukraine, although i agree with mr. mykola. what is really interesting about these two liberators who were close to putin, not even from the point of view that one killed ukrainians here in galicia after the second world war, and the other killed

czechs in prague in 1968 under prague time spring. i think it was significant that there was no third party who killed hungarians in budapest in 1956. i think this is also a symbol of orbán, you know, that we do not demonstrate the one who killed you in budapest in 1956 when the hungarians wanted to become part of the free world, so let's think in ukrainian and let's think about the interests of ukraine , is china needed in these interests, of course, because it is a huge political power that today claims to create a bipolar world , is it necessary and important for us the western world and

especially the united states of america, it is extremely important because this year we must do everything possible to start the negotiation procedure with the european union about our membership in the european union. well, of course, nato vilnius july, but i would not like us to talk and they will take us and they will not take us and they will give and not give, we have to do everything that depends on us to make it happen . do we have such a chance ? yes, we have. we must make sure that we use this window of opportunity and that we do not have a repeat of 2008, when there was also a window of opportunity and we did not take advantage of it. today we pay for it with the blood of our soldiers. today we pay for it by occupying our territories . let's do it together to use this chance, so in fact you touched on an important topic, and it also always

bothered me, if you look at this parade of badasses, well, of course, there are leaders of the country who could not refuse putin, the refusal is a leader azerbaijan because he was not interested there, to put it mildly, but nevertheless, the appearance of the leader of kazakhstan also suggested some thoughts in his mind about his, let's say, chinese protectorate, there were definitely options for refusal oksana yurynets you as an international expert what did you see hmm it's clear that now there is no question of the appearance of any leaders of the civilized world at the victory parades in russia . well, judging by everything, this holiday is already discredited, and no one will take it out for the sake of the russian federation, but nevertheless those people who

who came there, who didn't come, who could be seen there, you can see what you think, and the same one is wondering why he was showing there, uh. certain agreements because we still see that there is 2.8 a democratic world and there is a world of absolute autocracy and those leaders who live according to the system and in the permanent stage of elections . we are already in those countries. it's something a completely different, incomprehensible story of some kind not leading to victory, and i hope that we will not see this in the coming years, but will talk about something else. i agree with my colleagues that there is no other way for us to do our work, and that is nato, because this is the only security system that will guarantee us a real possibility to dream of acting in the future, why is it so important today , because in reality we are looking for permanent allies, we have definitely grown up a bit and

understand that no one owes us anything thinks about himself i think that the presence of certain persons at certain events appears only because there are certain prospects of benefit and their interests in their states or some separate agreements that may change tomorrow at some regular vote or some other meetings and this is 100% not permanent and this parade means absolutely nothing for the world except that russia must be defeated, unfortunately this is done on the territory of ukraine and at the cost of our lives in our military, but there is no need to say next we have a lot of upcoming events that should take place in luxembourg on the 19th, the nato parliamentary assembly will start. and where the issue of parliamentary diplomacy will be discussed ? yes, almost without rules . almost without waiting for anything, they invited us. they became parallel tracks for us, that is

, the european union and nato, as of now, being in warsaw in such a match, experience i have been working for the past few months in warsaw in the triangle. hello, to us, britain, poland, i will tell you frankly, even our partners , they do not know how we should continue to act with crimea, or, for example, what we can do, if it is not too much, what is the nuclear status, but we must consider there are all possibilities that it will happen sooner. can ukraine become the 33rd member? yes, maybe i don’t say the 32nd, because most likely the swedes will do it. this process has been launched much faster. and they are absolutely moving in this direction. that is why they have a different system, although it is a system of extended opportunities two countries will be respected here, what remains is ukraine, georgia, well, jordan and, er, australia, if geographically they cannot be, but this week we had others two days ago, and japan, who said well, you know, let's place here in ourselves because we understand those pacific dangers which

may appear to us now plus there are several separate statements plus there are incomprehensible things that appear in the sky and in fact the world understood that the band and the nato system are different and nobody came up with anything new ukraine today receives a lot support, we will not say what it is specifically, today there is a statement from the former defense minister of britain. is it poland or is it germany, these are the last trips. that is, if we think that this is just training for history , they say that everything will be faster, it is not just like that , but it means that these transferred technologies. this means that we directly or indirectly we are integrating into nato and we are becoming the people with whom not to be friends or not to have in our company would be wrong, well, conditionally, when we

have all this. at the international levels and this is not a measure exclusively governmental, parliamentary or even presidential it is simply an extraordinary