[000:00:00;00] support , we won't say what it is specifically , today there is a statement from the former defense minister of britain. is it poland or is it germany, these are the last trips . that is, if we think that this is just training for history , they say that everything will be faster, it is not just like that, but it means that these transferred technologies. this means that we directly or indirectly we integrate into nato and we become those with whom it would be wrong not to be friends or not to have in our company, well conditionally when we have all this yes and i just how to tell you, when did you communicate and the last time any meetings that took place at international levels. and this is not a measure exclusively of governmental, parliamentary, or even presidential levels. it is simply an extraordinary

level of ultimate self-governance and public sector. i will simply tell you frankly that everything works. i agree with my colleague that actually everyone has their own part of the job do and when in our country, regardless of their status, people go conditionally to washington , i know because on the last visit, when vitaliy klitschko was there with five mayors, they asked for weapons, well , it's strange when the local self-government does not say that i need fire ambulances there and there are more something, because i have to pull out the budget in some way so that the city lives and they are talking about weapons . everyone understands that we need to protect nemo with airplanes , we need the f-16 and we are asking for the f-16, we know that for this we need a lot of fire engines of the appropriate class, respectively, the security system but each time we have to understand the next thing, what is this process? it has a result every time, and i agree with many who say that the next offensive is the results . unfortunately, this war is not one offensive and is defined by one period, it is our existential

war, and we are it road, we will always have it, i was also surprised why kazakhstan was there, because it seems to me that the next ones after our victory will be the ones who will suffer it, because they have these manifestations of the freedom of people who have a lot . maybe there are also many ukrainians there, then their own who were deported at the time, that's why the world's security system is completely broken and it works in a different way and now we want it or not. we didn't specifically want to choose our fate to protect the eastern flank of nato , to protect europe, the world, but we have to do it because this is our land, ours the territory and our people, and you know a lot, when your relatives are already there , you treat such things a little differently, i can do it tomorrow and so on. let the military do this work, it ’s their part. separately those ie they know their work, we cannot advise them, we are at our own level, having connections , it would be possible to communicate, throw out this correct idea of ​​what and how it should be, and why we are beneficial as partners

, there is no other way except to be in nato, even if whatever i have let's say it's ukrainian-centric, it's the only security format, it's clear japan , which is geographically very far from nato member countries, which generally has its own special culture, which had its own certain historical tragedy of not having troops, and now understand that it is necessary to protect our islands to protect ourselves because it is impossible to do it in another way. we understood that it is not too much a structure, some kind of separation, which has something so abstract and new, and it is many countries with different capabilities with different technologies and different capabilities, we have to work with them separately. that is, we do not we have alternatives to nato, we have rammstein - this is an association a little bigger than nato countries, or there are only 31 of them, and that's more than 50 members, so the parliamentary assembly is somewhat similar, and why do i say that we need to work there, i know what is being prepared now very much by the ukrainian delegation representing various factions of the parliament, this is a very important dimension, and here i would like to warn

everyone, it is really not easy to work very well, i will tell you , you even give lectures. in the kyiv city council for the support of the nato documentation center - these are 80 young people who well, over this period of three years - this is plus or minus 600-800 people who are well trained and understand that this spreading information is not accidental, we have 80 plus figures for nato support among the population, this is an absolute bottom of confidence, what you say about the possibilities, the several possibilities that we now have, these windows are really open only to take and do sometimes it seems to me that some awareness is lacking or maybe empathy for understanding and empathy for everyone .

sometimes when someone calls someone and says something, it is necessary to understand who stands in absolutely certain positions when, well, certain persons want to try to change something, therefore the path of the euro-atlantic movement in our country, despite the threat of war and danger, will still be on may 26 after the parliamentary assembly i hope that we, together with the participants of more than 40 educational institutions of ukraine, will be able to further implement this movement and look for those among the youth who will make these changes, because there is a lot of work, not so much time, and we are all growing up but for sure today we have to do everything or help our army to be stronger and our communities this is the basis for them to be more stable when you come to any head you are returning from vegetables today or they do not say how many of them are fighting today how much unfortunately have already died and who should be helped because they became the heroes of their territories and they care about their children and

their families and understand the pure answer and then they say that they still need what they have someone to provide for, that is, in fact when we talk about nato, we must remind once again that it is education, it is the standards of life, medicine, there are many factors that bring us below the level of normal human life, and from the point of view of showing that the civilized world is with us, which will give us the opportunity to be capable, the civilized world is also declares what they do for us, well, in this way, they report to their people, obviously, so that they understand what support for ukraine looks like, let's look at one quote and to you, sir, once again, it will be the question and the word is a sentence of the command of the us army in europe and africa said because it is important they are talking about us we collectively not only the us and the international community have provided ukraine with about 600 types of weapons and ammunition ranging from abrams tanks to leopard tanks and the patriot system that is a lot

this more than there is education in any one army, especially the army that is fighting in the coming weeks and months . when everything starts, it will be revealing how the ukrainians use the systems that were given to them. they are watching us, they are looking at how we will fight here with all that we have been given, although our president says that we have not received everything yet, and that is why we cannot go into this active counteroffensive because we will lose a lot of people and that is understandable, everyone, how do you see it all for us now we can advance, we must advance, they give us enough of what they give and report. that's how it is, before we speak , it's important to note that literally, when we all entered the studio , information began to appear, and they came primarily from the side

our enemies about what they said in bakhmut, the armed forces of ukraine went in the direction of bakhmut, a very serious counteroffensive, and you already know that they have one. well, it's nice to read when they start hysteria. to come here, i talked with my comrades and followers uh and this one really . fleeing and everything else. i really hope that such a large-scale operation will be planned and approved, and i hope that we will not know about it in advance, like our enemies, that it will take place according to the plan

known to the commander-in-chief. what did you start with, how are we being watched in the theater of war here really? they are watching us. they are watching the eraphy, its weapons, its contacts . the hot phase allows you to identify everyone , including those who are deeply conspiratorial and who do not reveal themselves until the last moment. time of such there are also a lot of agents that will emerge, this is not their stage yet, because this is only the first phase, it is hot about the theater of hostilities and not only hostilities, but the public world theater is one of the elements that took place on red square, it is beautiful red square sounds ah-ah it

unfortunately, this spectacle is also one of the few remaining from the ancient theatrical action a , which contains very specific symbols and signs of the mentioned t-34 tank, which was walking nicely and confidently, this is the so-called painted tank , the winner of the second world war, which entered the berlin, when we all had fun with leopards, leopards defend something else, if this is so powerful inside the era and also in central europe , a symbol of the victory of the second world war, a huge flag of the soviet union, as our neighbors, the poles, say. but what they deployed is another very powerful sign

and the presence of central asian leaders here is precisely the urals, central asia - these are the places where the factories were evacuated , the residents are all powerful. they were sent there. therefore, this is a big signal about what , in my opinion, including the speech that was mentioned of this president is that russia is moving into the second phase , as they present it, is forced to move into the second phase of total struggle against the western world, and they are ready to stomp into europe under the huge banner of the soviet union , and they have reserves, including those of central asia

, this is the first moment about the parade, and why are we observing the second moment when we finished the second world war, the leaders gathered and distributed the world, and after that, who was engaged in or studied or specifically looked at the national liberation movement about that because of of the border, they tried to organize together with the newly created cia many operations, including the delivery of weapons to western ukraine , it is possible now, i think these are already materials, they are in the free world, operation belladonna, so i must congratulate all of us, this is about 600 types of weapons, this is what we currently have we succeeded in what our grandfathers failed to do

, we turned on the machine, a huge machine, which is now mostly called a nato military machine, but the first violin is there, no matter how much we want it, it is still assigned to the united staff, this is enough to see in brussels at the headquarters how many people occupy the united states of america and who dictates the main policy, that is , frankly , now. the rest was not successfully implemented, unfortunately, this is the second point, and here is the third point about

the fact that the world is becoming polarized, we say in almost every program that the world peace architecture is categorically broken and it is now is crystallized and it is already obvious that this is not enough if there was simply the good will of countries to join, let's say so to the forces of good , let's call them that because we are playing for them. division that will regulate these issues, you are aware that even the decision to recognize the president of the russian federation as a criminal if it could be implemented only with the good will of the countries of the country where will he

suddenly arrive, i emphasize this, the world is once again divided and crystallized now it's obvious that china is a renegade, or later their ideological and forced satellites in africa, their ideological satellites in the far east, and they are holding their elections , how should they carry out this policy, but it will not end until such an executive committee is formed in the organization of the united nations, and this role will not be taken on by a phenomenally expanded nato

, at least to the level of those applicant countries that are the status quo and others are simply supported. i want to clarify if we are talking about the new they started talking about cutting into the safety of the structure immediately after the full-scale invasion of the russian federation, and we often talked about it, you know. somehow , hoping and believing that it will happen. well , it seems to me now. and maybe i am wrong even in your words, it is somewhere that you can trace that now we already, well, clearly we see that, roughly speaking , there is already this trunk and something is already sprouting, because it has already sprouted and this new configuration of world security, judging by everything, appears when , unfortunately, only a few have the political will

and here, fortunately for us, it is the united states that adheres to the vector. but the first place here is still the united kingdom, because great britain, which understands in many ways that it is territorially closer, and it very clearly understands about everything, including the world's economic interests are in the commonwealth of the countries of the british british commonwealth, it is in the first place and europe. unfortunately, it actively begins to help under the press, but let 's be honest, even polls inside countries other than ours say this

of the nearest neighbors and the baltic countries , who in austria will fight? confrontation so that they can defend themselves when personnel officers say that this issue is rather economic and not military because the occupying power will be forced to rely on someone and therefore in the end sooner or later they will come to an agreement and er, the same professional military bundessphere says that well, of course, i will not be able to accept that, so i will most likely just emigrate from the country. it is a very weak position, and it is precisely supported and caused by the ref, but during

all these extreme decades, the position of ms. oksana savchuk is interesting to you. -th question, do you know what i was thinking about when uh when well, they were watching interesting live broadcasts. on this day, the victory and in general some kind of global conclusion, yes, in ukraine, too. well, we have seen such very rare cases of people who, on may 9, then try to celebrate something, so well this is already such an error that rather confirms the rule but it seems to me that and in general this is all ideology, even in russia, and in these one and a half years , this victory beast finally fell apart. so when they tell everyone that we can repeat and in general, they build any of their policies on do you know any such historical illusions that if they were able to conquer half of europe in 1945, liberating them from the fascists of that time, then even now they will succeed. well, you know

, the more the government does not think about its people and gives them minimum in order to live, the more she tries to keep them around with such different advice to impose on them these things that have nothing to do with a strong country of uncertain nationalism in every country it is such a certain this is the kind of reign that we see today in muscovy and which has been imposed on ukraine for many years, including on all holidays. i want to tell you that by the way, it's strange. what are we registered, do you remember what you will throw out of public holidays after the end of the war so that we leave all these dates that do not belong to ukraine eh and eh i started this

one we had my draft law with my colleagues and three more alternative ones until what did the committee manage to say that the topic is very important, all three draft laws are incredibly wonderful, but march 8 is so important that it is necessary to postpone this issue when i say let's make a decision at least on what we do not differ on well, at least on the ninth of may and put a full stop and show our position instead, the committee decided to create a working group, which i know when they told me if you want to fill in the questions, create a working group and everything is wonderful, that is, when we talk about what is so important today, uh, talk about our principles, who we are, what we are, what we have to join nato, because there really is something to go with, because today we have such a powerful patriotic idea, great patriotism , professionalism in various fields, we

also have to talk about our separation from the past that was imposed on us. that is, we have to solve it questions and do not say what to give we will wait until the end of the war and then we will make a bill that will introduce holidays that are foreign to us. well, at the same time, he put victory day there, well, you know, it sounds wild to me, so i think that we should hide and re-educate. believe me, there are many more in our country . and what you say that we still have a couple of sentimental people about the past. yes, it is. it is worth saying. yes, it is fortunately . not fortunately, but this war is truly sacred for us. the war has done so much in the mind and in the rethinking of every ukrainian that we from from many things we simply separated ourselves from what we could not even do even with the same laws passed in the parliament or the law does not always mean that

people will comply with it, people have come to this themselves and if we talk about what is our strength and we tell and i really review it for these tips . hmm, probably because we look around and analyze because there we are, in the end, every year we were told something about these tips for as long as we can remember. since childhood , we were shown, we discussed for a long time what to do, including going there heroes in ukraine although today we have somewhere to talk about and what we want and how we want to see standards in ukraine, what we propose, what we will introduce as ukraine in this world, today we have the full right to everything, but sometimes we underestimate ourselves, you know when there was a problem even with the grain corridors. do you know what my friends told me ? well, i have a country that we

can oppose to them now . us it is still there, but it has been brought up since childhood. well, it grows, it grows in our children, you know, not in us. they are already completely different, and we still think, we can not say so, because they will not accept us, maybe we will accept it , we will be tolerant. why did we discuss the issue of e- they tell me to introduce ukrainian women's day into the calendar well, how do we talk about ukrainian women's day? and what will women of other nationalities think in our country? committees don't ask me. well, what do you say? what do you think? ukrainians are the majority in our country and this is a normal holiday, so if we are talking about what is happening in moscow today, believe me, we feel that finally this year they really have those problems

. at first, when the sanctions were implemented, when last year they were very heavy and now they are very hard battles , even some of us sometimes had doubts. can we so abruptly overwhelm such a powerful imperial country like moscow ? it was the year of ukraine and who said that it is and will be , therefore, dear europe , the whole civilized world , help us and we are ready to defeat this monster. is it true that over the last many years, somewhere, er, there are still politicians who think strategically, they did not see how russia

simply bought a lot, as it brazenly poured in its dirty money and tried to buy er, to bring certain politicians to power in that some in european countries saw all this, but they tried to erase, you know, with oil and gas, strategic things that simply exploded because they, when you allow a dog like this , you let it into your house, it will climb onto your table, the same thing happened to russia, everything that was allowed to it globally she simply violated the world order, and today ukraine we are waiting for that weapon, of course, part of it. probably, we do not know with you, we can only trust the armed forces of ukraine in this matter. addressed all our viewers with the fact that we must continue to understand that first of all our safety, our future is in your hands, because not only the armed forces

are holding our fronts today, but each of us is in his place, no matter how it sounds is it banal or many people repeat it many times but it is true every center has here because when we say that today we need to change the profession for example we need good psychologists psychoanalysts we should unite more in order to create the same mental health centers so instead of gnawing at who will get the mill there , who will lead there we must unite in what we need today because we understand that this is our safety, this is safety, what kind of safety, including psychological safety , so how much we able we will continue this war which looks like um well it is uh well i'm not convinced that it will be a very quick war anyway we have to be patient and keep moving forward well and uh and ours

is what we post that we did not start with you to be afraid to say to the whole world what we want. in our own country, don't be afraid to have these discussions, don't say that we will solve all our problems after victory . everything will be solved after victory. said i absolutely support this, this last thesis, because when, if not, during the war , de-russification, de-sociatization, when , when everyone understands where the enemy is, and this enemy united the soviet union and the russian federation of tsarist russia and whatever if someone who was in that field of transformation does it today, today, tomorrow, then everything is clear now, since everyone has already woken up, they expressed themselves on may 18. it seems to me that there will be a big meeting of the chinese

leader with all the leaders of asian countries. i don't know, i won't say. i don't know, i know what rumors and gossip, the trick of this situation is that china, as if i am saying everything, is a speculation that it seems that china is giving supplies to all the countries that are there somewhere in the trunk, and they are giving it to the russians, this is a trick, i do not really believe everything i'll say it frankly, because although diplomatic circles are quite serious , they are talking about it because the americans have warned three times, and now the europeans have warned three times. i think that the volume of china's trade with europe and america will exceed i'm talking about china's trade in central asia with the soviet union with the russian federation. therefore , i don't know, i'm not convinced that they will succeed, but there is such

a persistent story that on the 18th, it's as if the chinese leader himself called everyone and told them to go in moscow, then we will meet and discuss our problems separately, as if they will come to him in beijing, there will be five or six of them, i don't know now about the new world order, well, human experience shows that only a world war leads to a change in the world order, that's why i from ukraine i am iryna taraniuk, and today in the program we are talking about the first long-range missiles that britain provides to ukraine with tom shadow, capable of hitting slopes at a distance of more than 250 km. more weapons are needed, the reaction of the kremlin is predictably negative. what are they afraid of in moscow