[000:00:00;00] diasm and desire to do things that cannot but surprise, and i will remind our viewers that in the final of espresso, because in italy, brizgalov, his team in kryvyi rih is creating an actual shock drone called cobra, and the general conclusion after conversations with our teams is that we are really proactive people who they make interesting and good products. the question is that they quickly reached the frontline levels and showed their effectiveness on the front line with the enemy. these were the main conclusions from this program, and then olga will continue the espresso broadcast laziness and its chronicles of the information war. congratulations, the time has come for amazing stories from russian propagandists. in the last two weeks, things have been going somewhere. well, it’s just clearly not going there, and that’s why we have to invent legends about mythical winners. in the last couple of days

, rumors spread that the russian air defense almost managed to save putin from an attack by ukrainian drones on may 9, the source of this became the well-known russian telegram channel of military fish surveys and its main author and that's how it sounded. we are talking about the fact that on the ninth of may in koluga, there were still attempts to break through drones that cut down our anti -aircraft defense forces over moscow, that moscow, that other cities, an action was taken to overload our anti-aircraft defense systems, that is, what did they do ? there are few drones of the aircraft type that were launched , including across the border and on the territory of our country, because they are sensitive. the day has been washed away over 60 drones just outside morskoe in the territory of gray russia over 100 we are talking about

small drones that were launched by kustarnaya that you landed on certain objects in order to sow panic, in particular, yesterday they shot down fortova , they shot down over the national defense control center all of them pursued one big goal to reveal our capabilities in anti-aircraft defense and for the sake of electronic warfare, a huge role was played by communal services, aunts, uncles, kuzmychi, the so -called, who are in the rear, left they just filmed everything on their phones, passed it on to the duty groups, and there was already either a fighter, a fighter, or someone else connected , well, some kind of him over there. in principle, one of the founders of the monobank, the drone manufacturer dovbush, volodymyr yatsenko, promised to give at least 20 million uah, so he will plant a drone on red square in moscow on may 9 , maybe uh, people decided to compete for this

money, and there really were some thrones flying, i don’t know well, at least this explains putin's nervousness during the parade . there was a moment when they were going to lay flowers. suddenly, the music turned on very loudly, so i was on us. yes , there is this moment. the music was turned on loudly, and putin even slowed down a little. he started saying something sharply, something like that, oh, now they can do it suddenly , it's just right, well, according to the sound, if you look at it at the moment when the music started playing there, they suddenly started behaving like that, and they must be fixing something, probably bulletproof vests not to correct i know that there was something so strange, but i must say that this whole story in general is now just hysteria , what is happening in russia, for example, the news that comes from there in the vicinity of st. petersburg

, a resident reported to the police about a white drone that flew in the park, then they discovered that it's actually a fat seagull flying just and no way and not a drone then more than 70 residents of the sverdlovsk region after the survey believe that the forest fires that occurred in their region were caused by arson and more than half of them believe that it is ukrainian saboteurs then the chuman people almost staged a lynch attack p- p- caught a traveler who was walking through the forest and who was not a remburg in khabarovsk and they decided that he was pali and a ukrainian saboteur tied him to a tree there called the police, the police came and found out that it was just in reality, a person travels, he considers himself a citizen of the world, but it is very premature, he decided to consider himself a citizen of the world, in this rashed russia. so it really is all

very fun there. they are scaring the russians with their movement along the entire front yesterday, a magical story just happened when the russian soldiers started dispersing the story that the offensive had begun. well , prigozhin has been telling us for a long time that it has already started here, but the others are there. well, they just don't lost his nerves, oleksandr kots, a favorite of the city komsomolska pravda, wrote that kyiv has started a contract offensive, the tanks of the armed forces of ukraine are going by the kharkiv bypass towards the border with russia and literally on belgorod, a terrible panic broke out there, i don't know, they were already planning to evacuate from belgorod, then the military in the hetrk poddubny tried to reassure that this does not mean that the armed forces of the people's republic of belarus will take over the belarusian people's republic right now, and wrote: "yes, comrades, take it easy. i did not write that the enemy was going to attack bilhorod. well, in short , everything that happened in the evening was just a slipper. well, only a military expert. actually, i think nightmares are really high-quality, but let's listen to

this honey for the soul, in fact, nothing has started yet, the volume of fire tasks, well, significantly exceeds the availability of, for example, high-precision weapons, and for the full solution of all these problems. well, for example, we need about 50 more missiles. storm shedov said yesterday that there is a reserve, probably there are installation parties already in ukraine. and it is quite possible that they are waiting there for another 50-60 missiles from the 80s in order to defeat the enemy by fire. well , how do they plan it? decided with the maximum with the maximum possible effectiveness fire defeat of the enemy enemy we distance 300 km pit will be deep in the territory of the russian federation this is that the purpose of the airfield is not 300 km rocket storm shadow there the minimum figure is 550 there even up to 1000 attack the operation of ukraine with a massive fire strike. this is precisely

with high-precision weapons at all possible and depth at all possible. our object they will announce that the bulk operation has begun when the first results of operational significance for them will appear. they went to that and to the border . only then will they announce optimism and hope, so to speak. well, in my opinion , 1,000 km of damage is good - it is the caspian sea and the russian planes above it that are shooting at us, i will say, gentlemen, and still not mark just listen to the person, the business speaks in general. a good plan must be taken, and it is interesting that it was not a random set of words, he repeated it first in the morning broadcast for 60 minutes, then in the evening broadcast for 60 minutes, that is, the panic around uh, oh, oh, oh, the storm shadow, you know, the quality is very dominant there they are shouting that we must bomb great britain right now, and if we don't destroy it, then cut off all their communications or organize some other sabotage or raise

some kind of rebellion. that's what you know well, the loss of meaning, suddenly they all started saying that we already have something, but it's not clear at all the goals of the war and in general what we should do next and what is happening in general , what are we fighting for, it's literally not clear well, about the goals of the war it was generally wonderful vopos как что для нас victory will actually be the most important question i propose this year and what we generally assume is the victory option - this is the liberation of at least the four regions that we wrote into our constitution will be the summer victory big question especially i mean that initially we wanted to open the border of nato , but it turned out that there were never any members of nato

we ourselves do not know. this is now in may 2023. what exactly is this victory? what kind of victory will it be in principle ? what kind of results will there be ? what are our goals, which is melitopol, then krym, then krym and melitopol, about the borders of the 91st year, this operation, respectively , the result that is consciously recognized , that is, which means is perceived in them , it is connected to a large population center , so it is not cut off by a land group if they cut it off, it will be an intermediate victory for them, but it just depends on what kind of bahmuta is produced - it will also be an intermediate one for us here, it will already be correctly said here, what a victory for us

in fact, it was simply a prank - it's bakhmut, it's artemovskoe, it's chasov yar , that's there, yes, the nearest time, someone is gathering. at times, it will sound like pobedo will not lose belgorod, well, it will be pobedo, because well, everything is leading up to this, at least that’s how we constantly say prigozhyn that literally as soon as the ukrainians break through the front, that’s it, that’s it, that’s the end of belgorod, eh. well, on the background of this, what you understand, in general, the conversation is very interesting, in fact, you know, it is interesting because , first of all, it turns out that they understand that the nato attack on ukraine did not lead to any movement of the borders of nato. on the air of the federal channel, it's very interesting, you know, this is a big change. i'm not saying that it's a big change after a year of war . it's not at all clear how we came there and what we

're doing there. it is clear to a person yes, they are defending their territory there, they are gradually repelling where they were attacked, all this is me to him. it is clear what their army is doing, it turns out that the people are not after a year of war , they have already killed 100,000 of their own and they still do not understand. a beautiful story has no motivation. you see how we find out how it is found out and this is said by people who are as if there are such patriotic patriots who are directly , well, most of all patriots and they are at the heart of this whole movement and they cannot even explain to their soldiers what they are fighting for, this is also great in our country now the most important thing is missing there is no understanding, there is no sense of what is happening, that is, there is no this or there is no understanding yes that is, a hero is a heroic concession, a hero for war yes if the majority considers us acceptable in society well, he does not understand why this is a war , then it turns out that all subsequent concessions are heroic they are also devalued, they are

also incomprehensible they are meaningless . they are meaningless. they work perfectly. and he had to survive. well, i'll tell you, the generally pathetic goal of the war with ukraine is to simply push your soldiers somewhere so that they survive, so that's all, and you know it all. to play on them and you have to think very carefully how to use them, let's think together with maria kucherenko, an analyst of the come back alive fund, who specializes in just that. i congratulate you, maria . good afternoon, well, you and your colleagues at the

come back alive fund worked on a big research, which is precisely the search for weak points, vulnerabilities, and so you see, such a very interesting situation arose in the ref, they tried to arrange all these provocations, in the end , they showed their own population how the cream burns there, a parade took place in them somehow very strangely, that now it is necessary to tell that the lady drones were saved, and well, that's it and the very vulnerabilities and risks are created, which actually decipher the meaning of these actions for us, you know. i would say that these are the consequences of those vulnerabilities , those weak points that we actually discovered during the research conducted with colleagues in fact, this is a very revealing and very serious story, precisely about the fact that , fortunately, the russian federation currently has no ideologist and the ideology of this war, that is, after the departure of sokol, after such a pushback of the cossacks, who also, by the way, had an ideologist, we have such a large laguna left and at the moment

when, on the contrary, they need to activate and mobilize the population in every sense, to talk about the fact that this is a holy war and so on and so on, the position of an ideologist is vacant. they do not understand why they are doing this, they do not actually understand not only why this war and what they are for they are fighting here. they do not understand what the current strategic goal is, what is the current main narrative for the russian federation itself, and this is the biggest threat to the russian federation today . we must be able to work with it and work in this way , i would say surgically precise, so that we can use it to the maximum, because everyone these things that are now being popularized in our society about the fact that there is not today, tomorrow, uh, putin's regime will falter because prigozhin will be the president, well, excuse me, these are fantasies, and there is no need to resort to any such things that can be characterized as a poem

full finding and that is why it is really necessary to work with the lack of ideology and the lack of explanation to the citizens of the russian federation of who they are today, what is the goal of their country in general, what are they moving towards, what is their picture of the future and this is a very important category and there is no answer to this question. the federal government of the city federation does not exist at the moment. well, once again, work with the elites , but not in the sense of making wishes come true, but using already existing conflicts , already existing clashes in order to make them work is less effective well, actually, this is our task now, you know, to try to solve this puzzle of the future of russia, because well, it is not an easy task, and for us, on the one hand, this puzzle of the future of russia should be such that it does not cause us challenges for

our security, and on the other hand, for him to be well, not attractive, but at least acceptable to the people of russia. this is also important, otherwise they simply will not accept him , but it is interesting. these are his latest videos, where is he there, but about the fact that everyone is angry there? how would you say glibin novoda and what does that mean, you say no, it cannot be considered that this is an application for the presidency, what is the application for then, it is very simple, it is the channeling of discontent through such a source that is currently being listened to and which is currently in demand because we recall

previous eras, if you can put it that way, that is, when wagner’s pvc, wagner’s so-called best group, was not such a toy for everyone, when it was such a project, which was more related to a series of some point tasks in the east of ukraine , then we have such a main figure as a mouthpiece of dissatisfaction with the way the hostilities of the russian federation against ukraine, igor girkin served as a former colonel, although when there is no fsb who talked about the fact that there is putin, you are fighting wrongly, you have to do it differently , and so on and so on. he gathered around itself to a loyal audience, and that is, people saw in this such a certain, well, such a certain permission, that is, that the system allows a certain criticism , a certain relaxation, and i will ask, for example, how a simple soldier of the russian army will criticize if girkin himself does it and he expresses my opinion. i am better i will subscribe to the slides and i will listen to him and watch how he criticizes all this, that is, there is a very simple thing going on here

, firstly, this is the channeling of discontent, secondly , this is the struggle of the internal elite groups by voice , i am one of them, who is beautiful but not alone personally, he is a person who can compete, for example, for the same ministry of defense or for some things related to the development of budgets for the production of the same shells for the military industry in general, and these are things that relate to the actual financing of the wagner group itself, because the wagner group is such a really large group of companies, if you can put it that way, it's not only these fighters who were not recruited there by the prison and from other institutions, it's also political technologists, it's also a bunch of people who work to shoot these terrible films that prigozhin once shot

there, turiisk from senzopiok , etc. representative and actually prigozhyn’s own means of existence and its contours for existence well, i would also add here somehow an explanation of what actually did not work out with bakhmut well, because there is an explanation and they don’t give us shells, it is obvious that this is an explanation for shklon as a result, it did not affect the russian population in terms of prigozhin’s reputation , but it could have affected , you could say. no, not on one, but there is still such a nuance, tell me, in principle , it is constantly mentioned that there are beautiful other pvcs that have spawned a redoubt there, which spawned two

pvcs in the ministry of defense, then gazprom there. explain why they are actually producing them well, because why does he need another anti-tank missile if he has the whole army of russia, and here actually, as with the alarming , one simple thing needs to be explained that all russian anti-tank missiles are like guinea pigs, not guinea pigs, that is, not russian and not pc and why? because already in the ranks of the same wagner, and not only citizens of russia, representatives of central asian countries are recruited from among illegal migrants as a way to legalize themselves, and so on , why not pvc because pvc are prohibited under russian law. and this will change in the near future, i think that not will also classify all this as pvk, well, it does not seem possible, in fact, in this case, not at all because there is coordination with the ministry of defense, we see this despite

all this public conflict, despite all these prigozhyn cries and so on and the like a in the case of these gazpromat projects - this is actually what under early enterprises, it does not have any eh legal eh, no such legal basements that allowed us to say that this is the truth of the pvpk, but here something else is important, that is, when there is the need for the russian federation to clear the territory as it was done in chechnya, and we all remember what terrible, terrible war crimes were committed there, we see some terrible war crimes are being committed, now they are playing with wording here and it will work in the future to try to whiten the reputation of the russian federation, therefore well , it’s an irregular army, it’s wagner’s pvk, or i don’t know some other conventional pvk and

you’re dealing with it, classify it there, hold big expert discussions, prove it, and so on if you are their terrorist organizations, yes, there is such a thing, tell me how it was done in the past. look, and if you say strategically, in general, the presence of a whole bunch of such half-witted strange people who have, well, just such a background, i would just say well, criminals in penal ordinary is this really a strategic risk and vulnerability for the russian federation or not ? how do you assess this? it is not a simple question. at the moment, i do not see a risk here. although i agree that this is not a simple question, you can approach it in different ways. but here it’s such a simple thing, all of this is, sorry, the garbage that they mobilized, recruited, and so on, it

’s a one-way ticket, so they won’t have any representative function in the future. and in fact, this is also a very significant and large role of such organizations as the wagner group, as well as the same unions of the donbas provolts, etc. the situation will be such a general criminalization of society, there will be even more internal threats , they collect them, they say that you can buy yourself a ticket to a new life, but in fact, all this is only in order to dispose of this element that could - could in the long run pose a threat, why not it was very interesting when it seems radio liberty tried to recruit the other day there, well, they conducted journalistic investigations to get into the wagner group and they were told well, you know the money they

promise you for participation in the ied, well, it’s relatives maybe they will be able to spend it, but it’s not to blame, you shouldn’t go there, you should go somewhere in africa, somewhere else, this is real money that you can possibly spend. so, yes, here, i will agree. although there is a nuance, of course, if centrifugal tendencies begin in russia or some uh, very active, such internal ones. at least these people will create, you know , groups that will be. well, it will also be a nightmare for the general public, and let’s put it bluntly, because they already have the skills, they are organized, they are, in principle, just organized criminals groups are ready for you right away, and one more such nuance is obvious that the issue of inter-ethnic conflicts, the issue of inter-religious conflicts is such a difficult issue for russia, and it is even more aggravated against the background of the fact that now they are looking for terrorists, they are looking for an internal enemy, one of the internal enemies this week already i believe

that the migrants are officially appointed because the head of the investigative committee of the russian federation , oleksandr bystrykin, spoke with such a statement. one of the 21-22-15 thousand has become 18% more, the idea is told by people while the russians are at the front, we are playing, they are attacking our telly, people are offering if they stole russia, they got citizenship, please go to the front and go to the front and fulfill your civic duty

leaving citizenship is one such statement. but it is interesting that it is also dispersed and, in principle , the propagandists are very active. in general , these slides are very interesting. there were migrants there, but they are different, but they are clearly detailed on migrants of non-slavic origin, so it is interesting, and also about migrants of non-slavic origin, there was a whole conversation that was summed up in these words , as a result, on solovyov's broadcast, and here we will present that this is a huge mass of migrants who are all under the control of taxis and modern means of scooters here are these super milcypeds that ride in any weather with boxes where you can carry anything on your back you can bring a kilogram of 50 explosives on your back they all have the codes of all our

entrances and i have to call if you know what ivanov ivan ivanovich lives in such an apartment. the leader will spend a whole day . what does it lead to? it's so simple. to direct clashes. i'm interested in how you assess the possibility of these internal, you know , well, the potential of this internal and different, let's say, ethnic movement inside russia, and precisely this situation with migrants because without migrants, the russian economy cannot survive, we all understand and they understand it themselves. yes, of course, it will not work as they are used to in all these delivery scooters at four in the morning, they will not be there if there are no migrants, we also understand this perfectly well , but there bastrykin he is already voicing literally the same thing that i voiced to you literally three

minutes ago about the fact that the mobilization potential of this group is very, very large and they want to use it and they will use it even more so that to intensify this process, they can actually start exercises there about terrorism or the facilitation of terrorism by such people and scare them in the migration services directly saying that if you will not show a desire to protect your new homeland, you will leave. your friend is in prison as a terrorist, and secondly, there are really even more global processes here, in fact, the russian federation, in one way or another, is always trying to flirt with the topic of terrorism, it has been there for

six months, it seems, or even more the question arises that one day they can go from the stage of svo to the stage of ktu, that is, a counter-terrorist operation, when everything will be managed by the fsb, and here i think that public opinion in the russian federation is simply being tested for loyalty to this idea that we are again there boro is terrorism and here there will be two types of terrorists, in fact, it will be terrorism tied to the islamic component, to the same migration component of central asia or to the same immigrants from the caucasian republics, but also those who do not share the idea there kadyrov's pathetic troops and so on and so we will be new terrorists and chechens for them, and here i simply think that it is about testing public opinion because this is really a big suvf, that is, if we transfer command from the military to the special services, then these are correspondingly different methods the conduct of hostilities is a different war and the transition

to completely different such attacks on us, therefore , such things really need to be treated carefully. i think that we will observe this situation and see where this actually goes for the russian federation and its federal government bring, but i hope there is an opportunity for us to take advantage of this situation, because it is obvious that when everything breaks down, when they have hysteria and the search for literally everyone's internal enemies, this always also destabilizes the government, thank you. it was maria kucherenko, an analyst of the fund, come back alive. we will meet with you next week, so we will see each other, this is the reality of donbas , this time we will talk about how russia's war with ukraine has changed after the occupying forces were stuck in battles for months from the district of kriminnaya to bakhmut vugledar and