[000:00:00;00] why did he do it openly in such a rude manner, well, troll him there, taking into account your invaluable combat experience, but it is known that the hereditary son of the son of the reindeer herder shoigu never participated , and it is not that he was not even a conscript in the battles is an officer is a personnel officer, or rather, mr. ivan, give me your word if there are even some detailed advances of our troops that should be commented on directly by the military . we can begin to cautiously say that the russians lost the battle for bakhmut because let's recall the chronology of the event in february, we had such anxious expectations in society that maybe it's time to withdraw our troops from the city so that they don't get encircled , then the scenario was considered optimistic when the city manages not to receive although b until april , then there was such a point of tension that the russians

were going to take the city by may 9. well, in order to complete this task, the russians concentrated as much as possible manpower, the main fire militia, and even the previous statements of this prigozhin about the alleged lack of shells, our official speakers objected, especially if you take some russian traces of the information struggle , when prigozhin was there, screaming at him that there was ammunition, he asked for even more large-caliber shells for self-tulips, and not that i'm not hungry for a projectile there , so they say even more so that they know that you are home, but even under such unfavorable conditions, our troops not only held, well, quite a small part of the city, but also launched counterattacks independently from the fact that we, for example, will be the results for this day, it is already clear that the russians suffered a strategic defeat in this battle , because it seems that the ministry of defense of the russian federation has already announced another act of goodwill. this is how we formulate it, that is , they are already gradually starting to withdraw their troops from

the direction of bakhmut, officially you have recognized it . it is obvious that he has an unspoken commitment to capture bakhmut. well, what can he do against the background of non-fulfillment of his obligations, which threaten him a little bit , what else can he do besides writing such letters by trolling, because, well, by and large , he is a person who is there without a combatant of experience well, in the literal sense of the word, the cook made his work dirty for him, but there are other people who were expelled from the main office of the general staff of the armed forces of the russian federation for brutality, relatively speaking , therefore, it is correct that they have reasons for such mr. ivan, while we are waiting for more missiles and for new planes, for those planes that we are asking for, which have been talked about for a long time, and we have a fresh supply of tanks, we are talking about the abrams , which we should have in the fall

ukrainian-made oplot tanks will also come to us , please compare what one and the other can do for us and how relevant are actually such supplies in tanks now if it is a counter-offensive operation well if you take the project fee here, rather, now this is an attempt by our military-political leadership to look into the future and ensure the future for our military-industrial complex. well , because this is such a political logic. after all, it’s such a thing that you won’t do it very quickly , guys, you won’t do it if you even take some well-known figures for er, let’s say so for developed countries . well, the americans can restore only 12 abrams tanks per month. korea is now in its best condition, it can produce a maximum of five tanks per month, it is based on the availability that it has production capacity there, the germans in the leopard sector have two and seven, according to one of the contracts

concluded now, they will be able to start supplying norway somewhere in three years, 2026 year, and this with correction is not the same as it was about 54 cars ago on such a cylinder, taking into account the fact that, well , the state is, to put it mildly, the best, it is hardly worth expecting that there will be conventional strongholds, well , such large serial quantities will go eh, to the army in the fall. although on the other hand, if it suddenly turns out to be a misinformation of the reader, it would be very nice . so, if we were to take our direction directly , which we are promised to deliver in the fall, and maybe there will be even more than 31 cars, well, there were in the americans took up the personnel, although more than what is needed for 31 tanks. it is possible. i am ahead today , because danylo said that several counterattacks will be needed

for this camp. russians, which they will already have time to experience even from the newest german leopard-2 a6, mr. ivan, if we take the ttx of the strongholds, the tactical and technical characteristics, for example, how do they differ from the other leopards, well, in particular , the key story here is armor or active armor? well, the cannon is provided for first of all, the guns there will still be more different because it will be very difficult to surpass the german leopards in terms of fire aim, if only because even non-americans are such a hubris a licensed copy of the german certificate used on leopards, what other developments can be applied there, then let's skip this system. just in order to. well, if the russians now feel a certain skepticism , they say, well, why resuscitate old projects that have not been relevant there for a long time? yeah, it means who drives their flavor very well. well let these all be a surprise for them some day. and i will perfect this machine directly for fighting against the rashists . i think our designers, first of all, need

it as much as possible, and secondly, just right directly on the already destroyed russians and we will make sure that exactly what was done is a wise answer ivan kyrychevsky very wisely formulated the answer well, of course, the key story is the pace of production, so let's hope that it is possible that certain capacities can be attracted, for example , our polish and south korean friends, no one canceled this either, well, but let the russian enemy guess for himself , that's just our assumptions, ours and our supplies, i would also like to ask, eh, lately, don't think that i'm complaining. on the contrary, i am very satisfied, but still, the russians use calibers less often, why do they do that, do they accumulate, or did something go wrong there ? what is your opinion? well, they can’t make them with very large motifs , the russians got such a full-scale distortion during the war. what if the russians could

make them by 2022 missiles evenly, i.e. 60 missiles per year of the caliber of 60 x101 missiles, then at the end of 2022, you got a skew in them , what is it? they started to produce 40 khas-101 crickets per month and up to 20 missiles of the caliber , respectively, taking into account the low production power that they have, it is quite likely that they are accumulating these rockets, but there may also be such a story that, well, considering that the manufacturers are still different there, and perhaps even considering some such unhealthy relations within the structures of the russian nuclear power plant itself. well the manufacturers of missiles of the caliber of the kasurn family could find themselves , let's say, in difficult relations, including in terms of obtaining components necessary for the implementation of the production plan, especially since there was such an interesting precedent there, let's say for according to some open data that ended up in the public space, the russians did not receive a single batch of caliber missiles in january 2022. just in february, they were catching up

with their instructors there, who received two monthly batches of 20 missiles , just two missiles. by the way then one of these monthly parties was damaged in the echelon that will be hit by our basketball . that's why there can be such a very complicated story that if the russians can the russians there is an objective need to accumulate them there for a certain time. especially since it is such a more a deficient cruise missile compared to others. well, even if the russians could make certain attempts to further produce it, mr. ivan, finally, what would i like to ask you ? do you understand the meeting between storm shadow and the crimean bridge ? -e impotence of the russian air defense system. so , to what extent would the russian air defense system be in a state and whether the shadow storm would be able to correct this illegal small architectural form installed

by the occupiers in our beautiful azov mori well, from the fact that some western officials are commenting there now, well, for example, the us secretary of state had to expect that the armed forces of ukraine will use it there, not as a single means. yes, as such a combined means of attack, well, roughly speaking, somewhere in the crimea taking advantage of the moment, several such missiles fly to the crimean bridge, taking into account all the technological features of this missile , including those laid so that the russians could not see it, in principle, lay the route like this in order to use the features of the area as the russians do. well, in order to deceive our pope. so we can do the same there even before, respectively. well, plus, if we also choose a condition there so that when there, the russian air defense system will be in such a most developed state , for example there before

that, there was some, it will be on the airfield, then the control of a small architectural form can be quite uh-uh, it is so probable , even taking into account the other history that there , the western allies would hint to us, oh, please use these cruise missiles rationally, i think that if they pushed something like this american in 1942, which had the most important moral advantage and decisiveness there for the americans in the first place and from time to time exactly along the crimean bridge , no one here is sure, no one will say anything bad to us, just the opposite, they will there to be proud of involvement in such a great ukrainian victory. thank you mr. ivan kyrychevskyi , a representative of the defense express community was working now live on the espresso tv channel, we are adding adia zagrebetskyi leader in the direction of minimization of corruption risks in the sanctions policy at zk slava to ukraine, ladies of zagreb, certain people of zagreb are happy to see and hear you . glory to the heroes. well, i would like to start with the key

history of the national security agency. 25 leading companies in the world have already entered the list of international sponsors of the war , they got there quite a bit, so to speak well-known brands or brands that are devoid of conscience , well, nazk has taken the necessary step, but what additional legal cases are still possible in order for these companies that have decided to trade freely with the russian federation it is clear that it will not be so beneficial for them, in particular, it is about the fact that perhaps it would be worthwhile to communicate about similar things with the european union, the european commission, etc. that we understand that we cannot expect sanctions against these companies right now, this is understandable because it is their company with whom they are negotiating and they still

remain in the position that they cannot indicate in a private business that does not fall under sanctions restrictions works in markets that do not fall under sanctions restrictions take any actions, but at the same time we already see that investigations are starting on the issue of possible corruption offenses or possible income distribution, and we see that these companies are facing more and more pressure from both western banks and investors why because and here the question is, you know, introducing them to the international sponsor and international sponsors of the war is only a statement by the national agency of the fact that these companies work in a high-risk toxic environment, which means that they themselves and their headquarters become high-risk and toxic because when working, for example, if we are talking about trade networks, then when working in russia , the trade network deals with russian suppliers. and who is in the russian suppliers? these are the same russian

oligarchs, a large part of whom are already under the sun and buy vegetables or fruits without encountering kadyrov or someone like him at a company connected with him it is very difficult in the russian market, therefore, according to the companies, they understand in what toxic environment they work and what will be the further consequences, and today we see the results. there are already several companies from our list of international sponsors of the war who have announced that they have made a decision to withdraw from the russian market. the same leroy merlin company this company the same danielle the last by the way she said that we did not expect them to be among the first to announce their departure, but we are not excluding them from the company yet we are waiting for them to do so and exited the russian market because you can declare anything, we know that there are companies that have declared for more than six months

that they are exiting a-a. because today the russian government is doing everything possible to convert western brands and not only western brands because we have international sponsors of the war, including for example and the same chinese brands and soon we will have other brands also not from countries from the functional coalition from those countries that have not yet been included in the list of international sponsors of the war, and the russian government is doing everything to turn them into accomplices. it all started with the fact that we simply stay in russia because the russians are also it is necessary to serve the russians who are not guilty of anything and then how it all ends with the fact that the company begins to reward the russian military with preferential loans or credit holidays if we are talking about banks that are entered on our portal and or for for example, now the russian government is developing a separate one-time military tax. maybe they won’t call it military. but

it’s clear that it will go to military needs . which corporations should be paid? wars and which help the russian government in every possible way in carrying out mobilization. for example, the american company marriage state, which forbids its employees to work remotely in order to simplify the process of sending them subpoenas for mobilization and that is, this is all such a direct participation in the kremlin's military efforts, and here we can dive into the history of nazi germany when the company that remained to work in nazi germany, some of them later faced lawsuits and lawsuits, including about you so-called reparations for damages , collective lawsuits from the victims, and here part of the company paid this money. they concluded a peace agreement with the victims and agreed that they will pay these reparations and these

companies that have remained on the russian market. they must be prepared for the fact that if they do not make the only correct decision now , then in the future they may also face lawsuits from the ukrainians about the payment of compensation operations of the zagreb key story, that is, 25 of those large powerful companies that in russia and , accordingly, some of them already want to be fed, and in ukraine we understand that history is not easy because everything must be done extremely legally correctly. wise and beautiful at the same time, we understand that these are the companies that want to make money from russia, that is, de facto sponsoring the russian economy, the economy of the aggressor state. and so on, this has its own specifics. open up this important aspect. today there is no ban for these

brands to work in ukraine, and we understand that these brands created a certain value for ukraine in terms of jobs, payment of taxes and so on, but oh these companies these listed companies are sponsoring the russian war and the ukrainian consumer appreciates this very clearly. again, if we are talking about retail chains that are present on the ukrainian market, their turnover decreased by approximately 30-40% after being included in the list of international sponsors of the war, and this trend is observed not only in ukraine eastern europe our friends in eastern europe are reacting in the same way and retail chains are facing a drop in sales in eastern europe second e suppliers ukrainian suppliers are beginning to refuse to cooperate with such companies, and we have cases when the company already offers the largest ukrainian suppliers of companies from our list of international war sponsors unique conditions, really

unique conditions for their goods, which ukrainian manufacturers could not even expect to count on them, hope for them someday. and today they receive them and at the same time, ukrainian manufacturers tell them no , guys, you are international sponsors of war, your conditions are of course very attractive for our business, but we value it and this is very what is important is the signal that today's ukrainian market sends to international companies. of course, it is not completely clear. and they cannot imagine what it is like when a large ukrainian manufacturer is offered exclusive conditions. and he says that i am talking about values, we will not use them at all, we will stop with you relations, this trend is and if we talk about what will happen to them next, there is a petition a, which received a sufficient number of votes, the petition of the president regarding the labeling of businesses that remained working in russia in ukraine as separate ones there or with the russian flag or rum or something else. that is, we can talk about different labeling today at the legislative level, this decision

has not been made a, but it always hangs in the air, and farm market by farm market adopted a regulatory framework that provides that a companies a that remained in russia due to year if i am not mistaken, so that i am not mistaken about the terms, if they have not left the russian market or have not provided a clear exit plan, then their products will be banned for sale in ukraine, i do not know why it is necessary to support such they are initiatives, they have their pros and cons, i like the international sponsors of the war more than anything because it is a tool not of coercion, this is a tool of reputation when the state does not oblige, does not come with checks and does not conduct an investigation, but exclusively informs consumers , informs a democratic society about the fact that we are dealing with such cases is still the most direct form of democracy , the citizens of ukraine themselves decide how to react in this situation, and we see that this is

the most impure form of democracy in fact if we talk about the ukrainian offices, are they guilty or not guilty? i am already anticipating your question, because it is often said that ukrainian officials are not guilty of anything, they provide humanitarian aid and pay taxes, and some of the ukrainian offices are now at the front in i always have a very simple question for ukrainian offices. every ukrainian office has a compliance officer . this is a person who is responsible for ensuring that the company's activities comply with the compliance program. the competence of the officer's competence is territorial. limited exclusively in the ukrainian language to the office and each complex of his duties. there are no rules if he sees about the apartment. if we open the kuplensk program of every international sponsor of the war, we will see that work in russia contradicts half of this set from the program, that is simply a complement from

the program and work in россия are antonyms , at least one compliance officer of the ukrainian office created this document stating that work in russia contradicts the mare in the program , sent him to the headquarters in an apartment in order to investigate me about none of this for example, this case is not known, and every time i ask a ukrainian officer this question, they also do not have an answer to it, so it seems to me that the ukrainian offices can do much more in order to put pressure on the headquarters of the apartment , and i would call on the ukrainian office if they they are really so pro-ukrainian patriotic and so on, as we see how they speak , it seems to me that it is their civic duty to do this, not a right, if we are not talking about large companies, not about managers or those who holds certain positions. and about every ordinary ukrainian , or each of us there, i’m antin, anyone can somehow help to collect evidence of the sale of russian under-sanctioned goods in ukraine and

somehow influence the fact that these sponsors of terrorism of the murder of our countrymen no longer work in ukraine you know, we currently do not see such a mass problem with the fact that russian goods are sold in ukraine, for example, if you asked about it, and that is why i do not see a mass problem here, and this is probably more the competence of our law enforcement authorities, because if russian goods are sold in ukraine, then this is already a question of the financing of terrorism by the citizens of ukraine . and this is a question of the criminal code , and if we talk about the international sponsors of the war, then the best thing is that each of your viewers and ordinary ukrainians can help by voting in hryvnias. yes, i that's how i'll say it. that is, it's simple to make a decision whether it is in line with his values ​​to buy the goods of this e-e company that

has remained working in russia, or whether it is consistent with his values ​​to be a client of a trading network that has remained in operation in russia and so on in this is probably the best thing that every viewer can do . own 112 companies in ukraine, i cite their ownership of hotels and retail chains and malls and mineral extraction companies that can influence the politics of entire regions and individual branches of the energy industry, this is the head of creative bread

kanevsky, the nominal value of the corporate rights of these companies is uah 6 billion, but it is impossible to calculate how much this business is actually worth. so, what is being done in this extremely important and strategic direction, how to help, so to speak , the representatives of big russian business , which can potentially have an influence on the political decision, leave our beautiful take the state like this and take the course of a russian ship to the motherland or somewhere there, some cayman islands, uh, i don't want to rush ahead again, but i will do it anyway small spoiler and we are waiting for pleasant news on this front in the near future in the coming days, and we are very much looking forward to it. and this is the first and second moment, i would divide these uh subjects into three parts. and the first part - these are those that are not yet under sanctions and on these subjects, of course, it is necessary to make a decision on the application of sanctions as urgently as possible, and now you can see that, in principle , the sanctions policy of ukraine is becoming

more consistent, and almost every week, almost every week, sanctions packages are announced , there are no longer such big breaks, and i think that in this part, we will tighten up, and the second one is by subjects - these are those that are already under sanctions , those that are at the stage of confiscation of assets, the ministry of justice is working with this, and you know here, will i stand here to defend the ministry of justice or well, when you and i are talking about the confiscation of assets. we have to endure the whole process as much as possible, and all the western regions, because then we will face european courts and so on. therefore, it is going a little slowly, and we see how some deripaskas of the novynovsky high anti-corruption court are passing what piles of documents they bring the ministry of justice there and they are really fighting, that's why the work here is not so fast for objective reasons, but it is going, there is a third in terms of subjects - these are the subjects who

recorded their assets on the cat so so widespread approach in ukraine, we understand that part so to speak, the russian oligarchy could use useful and inexpensive ukrainian entrepreneurs to serve as a facade for their businesses, and this is a key story, because then it is necessary to enter the alya cyprus denominations or some other offshore zones and dig and dig there digging in order to make ends meet and this story is not simple, there are two important aspects in this part, the first one, i don't know yet, i haven't seen cases when it couldn't be proven , that is, you know, there is no crime that leaves no traces, there are no ideal crimes, respectively, in each case it can be proven, it is really possible, that is, is there such a potential possibility or

is it easy to do it? no , it is not easy. i won't talk about the cases now. what will happen when it's all over with me in the near future? it's already clear. and we will be able to talk about it in more detail, but in some cases we involved, including our partners from the united kingdom of cyprus, consultants from other countries. -partners who, together with us, helped us collect it, spent the nights discussing it all, and so on, they helped us get evidence and formed such and such reports in order to prove that this particular russian oligarch owns this asset, but there was not a single case in which we could not, we saw that we could not prove it. that is, it is possible, but it is a very complicated and long process, that is

, the case that i just described without naming it. well, the agency went well, it's been almost six months, and that's not despite the fact that teams from other countries worked with us, consisting of about 10 people, almost everyone. thank you, ladies, for the game . it's extremely interesting and professional conversation . zagreb always controls, so to speak , this space. in the direction minimization of corruption risks in the sanctions policy, nazk talked about russian business open and hidden in ukraine and not only and we are watching how polish and classy experience is adopted by other countries, in particular, in the seven of lithuania, they propose to rename kaliningrad to the king . meanwhile, all of my lithuania's conservative deputies propose to

also abandon the use of the name of the kraigrad region and the city of kaliningrad and with the corresponding with a proposal, the deputies turned to the state commission for the lithuanian language, members of the seimas propose to rename kaliningrad to another name of king uchos ugu well, the beauty is already fighting in hysterics, in particular, it is about the situation in bakhmut, i quote the criminal, the adventures of the enemy took tactical heights, this is the gradual encirclement of the city, the next step they they will go to the settlement of berkhivka, this means a gradual encirclement, bakh, then bakhmut, as if on the palm of his hand, declared the handsome man, and we say the criminal, he says eh, we repeat that this is a regrouping, and they continue er, so to speak, look for synonyms for the term military defeat, well, it is too early to talk

about the end, so to speak, of this operation , but in any case , prigozhin's hysteria is extremely pleasant. to do, we pass on the word to anzhelika sezonnenko with the latest news. thank you, colleagues. in this issue, i will tell you about this in the obimut district .