[000:00:00;00] yes, for likes and subscriptions, the conscience sells clothes for rubles, they bought phones, cars, cars, and soon the programs will be waiting for you in the butesgarna, this was a program of collaborators. and i am olena kononenko. if you want to talk about the kremlin sellers, write to us at this email address or simply on facebook , we will send all the traitors together in pursuit of the russian ship. see you next wednesday on the air of espresso. congratulations, the time has come for amazing stories from russian propagandists. things have been going somewhere for the last two weeks. we have to invent legends about mythical winners in the last couple of days, rumors have been spreading that the russian air defense lady managed

to save putin from an attack by ukrainian drones . on may 9, the source of this was the well-known russian telegram channel of military reviews ribir and its main author and this is how it sounded . we are talking about the fact that on the ninth of may in koluga there were still attempts to break through drones that cut down our forces overloading of our anti-aircraft defense systems, that is, what did they do? i used few drones, and two aircraft types that were launched , including across the border and on the territory of our country, because they are sensitive. unfortunately , there are not enough of them, but they are the message that we were the only ones to spread about the fact that over moscow was over 60 drones washed away in a day, just behind the mask in the territory of gray russia, over 100 are talking about small drones that were launched

by kustarnaya, which you sat down over certain objects in order to sow rations, in particular, yesterday they shot down a fort, such a shot down over the national defense control center. all of them pursued one big goal, which will reveal our capabilities in anti-aircraft defense and electronic warfare councils. a huge role was played by communal services, aunt uncle kuzmychi , who are in the rear they simply went to a few houses, filmed it all on the phones, passed it on to the duty groups, and there was already either a fighter, a fighter, or someone else connected, well, some of them there, i would say that's how the eyes run. therefore, i don't know if there is at least fate here, but if there is, in principle, one of the founders of monopunk, the drone manufacturer dovbush, volodymyr yatsenko, promised to give no less than uah 20 million to plant a drone on red square in moscow on may 9, maybe eh well, the people decided to compete for this money, and there really were some thrones flying, i don’t know, but at least this explains putin’s nervousness

during the parade, there was a moment when they were going to put flowers there. suddenly, the music was very loud, so i turned on us. yes, there is this is this moment the music was turned on loudly and putin even slowed down a little and began to say something sharply there something like this here oh now you can do it suddenly whoop it's just right according to the sound if you look at it at the moment when the music started playing there and suddenly they started behaving like that, well, something needs to be fixed, probably, the bulletproof vests need to be fixed , i don’t know what was so strange, but it must be said that this whole story, in general , is now just hysterical , what is happening in russia, for example, the news that from there they come there in the vicinity of st. petersburg, a resident reported to the police about a white drone that flew

in the park, then they found out that it was actually a fat seagull that just flew and no way, not a drone, then more than 70 residents of the sverdlovsk region after a survey, they believe that the forest fires in their region took place caused by arson and more than half of them believe that it is ukrainian saboteurs, then the chumanians almost staged a lynching p- p- they caught a traveler who was walking through the forest from yaka remburg to khabarovsk and they decided that he palius and a ukrainian saboteur tied him to a tree, there they called the police, the police came and discovered that this is just real , well, a person travels, he considers himself a citizen of the world, but it is very untimely, he decided to consider himself a citizen of the world, but in this rashed russia. fun is happening well, i will tell you about the alarming terror of the propagandists, they are very much scaring the russians with their movement on the entire front, yesterday

something just happened, well, a magical story when the russian military began to disperse the story that the offensive had begun. well prigozhin has been telling us for a long time that it has already started here, but the others are over there, well, they just didn't lose their nerve, my favorite there , oleksandr, commander of the komsomolskaya pravda, wrote that kyiv has started a contract offensive, the tanks of the armed forces of ukraine are going by the kharkiv bypass towards the border with russia and literally in belgorod, a terrible panic arose there, i don’t know, they were already preparing to evacuate from belgorod, then the military commander in the hetrk piddubny tried to reassure that this did not mean that the armed forces of ukraine would immediately take over the belgorod people’s republic and wrote yes, calm down, comrades. i didn’t write that the enemy is going to attack belgorod. well, in short, everything happened in the evening that was just a slipper. well, only a military expert . actually, i think nightmares are really high-quality, so let ’s listen to this honey for the

soul. well, it significantly exceeds the availability of, for example, high-precision weapons, and for a complete solution to all these problems, it is necessary, for example , to calculate approximately 50 missiles. storm shedov said yesterday that there is something to be guarded, and there are probably installation parties already in ukraine. it is quite possible that they are still waiting for 50-60 80s rockets in order to defeat the enemy by fire. well, how do they plan it? it was decided to destroy the enemy by fire with the maximum possible efficiency. the enemy has a range of 300 km. first of all, there are not 300 km of shadow storm missiles, the minimum figure is 550, there are even up to 1,000

. the depth of everything possible with our object, they will announce that it is a pouring operation, when the first results of operational importance will appear for them, well, let's say take that or a new city, they went to that and a new frontier. only then will they not announce, so to speak, optimism and hope kilometers of damage is the caspian sea and the russian planes above it that are shooting at us, i will tell you, gentlemen, and still not mark , listen, the man is speaking, the matter speaks in general . a good plan must be taken, and it is interesting that it is not there was a random set of words, he repeated it first in the morning broadcast of 60 minutes, then in the evening broadcast of 60 minutes, that is, the panic around uh-uh, oh, oh, oh, the shadow storm is like that, you know, the quality is very dominant there, they are shouting that we need to bomb great britain right now, and if we don't destroy it, then cut them off everyone communications or to arrange some other sabotage or raise some kind of mutiny well, in short, anything , that is, you know, it just sounds like красота

красота well, and against this background, it is very noticeable , you know, a loss of meaning, suddenly they all they began to say that we already have something there, but it is not clear in general the whole war and in general what we should do next and what is happening in general , what are we fighting for, it is literally not clear well, about the whole war it was in general wonderful vopros how will victory be for us, in fact, it is the most important the question i propose this year is that we generally assume a victory option - the liberation of at least the four regions that we wrote into our constitution. will this be a victory in the big question? until now, there have never been members of the eto, as it were, it is one of the borders, as it is during the operation in ukraine, as it does not push the borders, but simply in the other , the fact is that so far we do not know, that’s how it is now in may 2023 of the year, what exactly is this for the victory, how would it be, in principle

, what would the results be now , how would the victory be ukraine , it is not clear, accordingly, the final result is there, melitopol. krym, that krym and melitopol, about the border of the 91st year, that operation, respectively, the result that is honestly recognized, that is, which they have a means of perception, it is taken from a large population center, so it is at the point of cutting off the land mass if they cut it off and it will be an intermediate victory for them that's just included in the fact that exactly what is bakhmut here - it will also be intermediate for us, just how would any one believe for us, in fact , prime was set, this is bakhmut, this is artemovskoe it's a time of summer, that's there, yes, in the near future, someone is collecting it. how do you do it if the task is for this question, or it's just an active defense? endless, well, judging by the fact that it's been flying there lately

, the victory will not be lost. belgorod well, it will be a victory, because everything leads to it, at least that's how we keep saying prigozhyn that literally as soon as the ukrainians break through the front , that's the end of belgorod eh well, against the background of what i didn't understand , it's actually very interesting, you know, the conversation is interesting in because first of all, it turns out that they understand that the nato attack on ukraine did not lead to any movement of nato's borders . that is, well, suddenly it turned out that they always knew this , that is, it was suddenly heard on the air of the federal channel. it's very interesting, you know, this is a big change. i'm not saying that it's a big change after a year of war. it's not at all clear that we came there and what are we doing there. why is this happening because of what the ukrainians

are doing? they fight back where they were attacked, all this is me to him . it is clear what the army is doing in which it turns out that a person is not clear after a year of war. they have already killed a hundred thousand of their own and they still do not understand. as i found out, how is it found out, people say that it's like how there are such patriotic patriots who are directly, well, most of all patriots, they are at the heart of this whole movement and they can't even explain to their soldiers what they are fighting for, it's also great in our country now there is none of them important, that is, there is no understanding meaning of what is happening, that is, there is no this or there is no understanding yes that is, a hero is a heroic concession , a hero for war yes if the majority considers us acceptable in society well, he does not understand why this is a war, then it turns out that all subsequent concessions are heroic they are also devalued, they are also incomprehensible, they are then meaningful they

they are senseless, they work perfectly, he arranges the place, the person committed a personal feat in order to survive, and this is the only meaning that we can now perceive. this is all he was put in these conditions. and he had to survive. well, this is me i'll tell you, the overall pathetic goal of the war with ukraine is to simply put your soldiers somewhere so that they survive, and you know it all, it creates well, in fact, there are a lot of such internal risks for russia itself that we need to be able to play on them and we need to... it's a good idea to think about how to use them. let's think together with maria kucherenko, an analyst of the come back alive fund, who specializes in just that. i congratulate you, maria . good day. well, you and your colleagues at the come back alive fund worked on a large study, which is precisely the search for weak

places of vulnerability, and so you see, such a very interesting situation arose in the ref, they tried to arrange all these provocations , in the end, they showed their own population how the cream burns there, they somehow had a very strange parade that now it is necessary to tell that the lady drones were saved, and well, this creates the very risks of vulnerability, oh you know, decipher for us the meaning of these actions , you know . i would say that these are the consequences of those vulnerabilities, those weak points that we actually discovered during the research conducted with my colleagues. a serious story precisely about the fact that, fortunately, there is no ideologist and ideology of this war in the russian federation, that is, after the departure of sorkov, after such a withdrawal of the cossack, who , by the way, had an ideologist, we have such a big laguna left, and at the moment, when they need to activate and mobilize the population, on the contrary in every sense to talk about the fact that this is a holy

war and so on and so on, the position of an ideologist is vacant. they don't understand why they do it, they don't actually understand not only why this war and what they are fighting for they don't understand what the current strategic goal is, what is the current main narrative for the russian federation itself, and this is the biggest threat to the russian federation today . we need to be able to work with it and work in such a way, i would say surgically precise, so that we can use it to the maximum, because all these things which are now being popularized in our society about the fact that there is not today , tomorrow , the putin regime will falter because prigozhin will be the president. poem full finding and that's why we really need to work with the lack of ideology

and the lack of explanation to the citizens of the russian federation of who they are today, what is the goal of their country in general, what are they moving towards, what is their picture of the future and this is a very important category and answers to this question federal the power of the city federation does not exist at the moment. well, once again, work with the elites , but not in the sense of making wishes come true, but using already existing conflicts , already existing clashes in order to make them work is less effective well, actually, this is our task now, you know, to try to solve this puzzle of the future of russia, because well, it is not an easy task, and for us, on the one hand, this puzzle of the future of russia should be such that it does not cause us challenges for our security, and on the other hand, for him to be well, not attractive, but at least acceptable

to the people of russia. this is also important, otherwise they simply will not accept him , but it is interesting. these are his latest videos, where is he there, but about the fact that everyone is angry there? how would you say glibin novoda and what does that mean, you say no, it cannot be considered that this is an application for the presidency, what is the application for then, it is very simple, it is the channeling of discontent through such a source that is currently being listened to and which is currently in demand because we recall previous eras, if you can put it that way, that is, when wagner’s pvc, wagner’s so-called best group, was not such a toy for everyone, when it was such a project, which was more related

to a series of some point tasks in the east of ukraine , then we have such a main figure as a mouthpiece of dissatisfaction with the way the hostilities of the russian federation against ukraine, igor girkin served as a former colonel, although when there is no fsb who talked about the fact that there is putin, you are fighting wrongly, you have to do it differently , and so on and so on. he gathered around itself not a loyal audience, and that is, people saw in this such a certain, well, such a certain permission, that is, that the system allows a certain criticism , a certain relaxation, and why would i, for example, as a simple fighter of the russian army, criticize if girkin himself does it and he expresses my opinion. i am better i will subscribe to the slides and i will listen to him and watch how he criticizes all this, that is, it is a very simple thing , firstly, it is the channeling of dissatisfaction, secondly

, it is the struggle of internal elite groups with a voice , i am one of them, one of whom is handsome, but he is not himself personally, he is a person who can compete, for example, for the same ministry of defense or for some things related to the development of budgets for the production of the same shells for the military industry in general, and these are things that relate to the actual financing of the wagner group itself, because the wagner group is such a really large group of companies, if you can put it that way, it's not only these fighters who were not recruited there by the prison and from other institutions, it's also political technologists, it's also a bunch of people who work to shoot these terrible the films that prigozhyn once shot there, the eyes of turia from senzopiok, and so on and so on , this is a support group for those representatives of the wagner group who work there in african countries, that is, it is about

the channeling of discontent and the internal elite struggle, but so much more representative and actually prigozhyn’s own means for existence and for the existence of his culture, well , i would also like to add here somehow an explanation for what actually did not work out with bakhmut well, because there is an explanation, and they don’t give us shells it can be seen that this is an explanation for the shlon to the russian population, it did not hit the reputation of prigozhina as a result, but it could have hit, i could have said how else. somewhere on the same level. and now it is not on the same level, but there is still such a nuance , tell me, in principle, it is constantly brought up , he mentions the wonderful other anti-tank missiles that spawned there, the redoubt, which spawned in the ministry of defense, then gazprom, there are two anti-tank missiles. explain

but really, why do they breed them? well, because why does he need another anti-tank missile if he has the entire russian army, and here, in fact, as with the alarmist, one simple thing needs to be explained, that all russian anti-tank missiles are like guinea pigs, not guinea pigs i.e. not russian and not pc. and why? because already in the ranks of the same wagner, and not only citizens of russia, representatives of central asian states are recruited from among illegal migrants as a way to legalize themselves, and so on , why not pvk because pvk are prohibited under russian law and this to change in the near future, i think that it will not be, moreover, to classify all this as pvk, well, it does not seem possible, in fact, in this case, not at all because there is coordination with the ministry of defense, we see it despite all this public conflict, despite all

these prigozhyn cries and so on and the like. and in the case of these gazpromat projects - this is actually what under early enterprises it does not have any uh-uh legal uh-uh no legal basements that would allow us to say that this is true pvpk but here something else is important, that is when there is a need for the russian federation to clear the territory as it was done in chechnya, and we all remember what terrible, terrible war crimes were committed there, we see some terrible war crimes being committed, now they are playing with wording here and it will work in the future to try to whiten the reputation of the russian federation because well, it’s an irregular army, it’s wagner’s pvk, or i don’t know some other conventional pvk, and you’re dealing with it, classify it there, hold

big expert discussions, prove it, and so on if you are their terrorist organizations, yes, there is such a thing, but tell me how it was carried out in the past. look, if you say strategically, in general, the presence of a whole bunch of such half-witted strange people who have, well, just such a background , i would simply say well, criminals in them, of course is this a strategic risk and vulnerability for the russian federation or not ? how do you assess it? it is not a simple question. at the moment, i do not see a risk here. although i agree that it is not a simple question, you can approach it in different ways, but here it is. it's a simple thing, all this is, sorry, the garbage that they mobilized, recruited, and so on, it's a one-way ticket, so they won't have any representative function in

the future. this is also a very significant and big role of such organizations as wagner's group , as well as the same unions of pro- voltsians of donbass, etc. the general criminalization of society will be even more, there will be even more internal threats, they collect them, they say that you can buy yourself a ticket to a new life, but in fact, all this is only in order to dispose of this element that could - could in the future pose a threat, but why was it very it’s interesting when it seems that radio liberty tried to recruit the other day there, well, they conducted journalistic investigations , i’ll be recruited into the wagner group and they were told well , you know the money they promise you for

participation in the ied, well, it’s relatives, maybe it’s they will be able to spend it, but it will not be blamed, you should not go there, you should go somewhere in africa, somewhere else, this is real money that you can possibly spend . so, yes, here, i will agree. although there is a nuance , of course, if centrifugal tendencies begin in russia or some uh, very active such internal these well, at least these people will create, you know, groups like this, which will also give nightmares to the population, and let's put it bluntly, because they already have skills, they are organized, they are, in principle , just organized criminal groups i have one more nuance ready for you right away: it is obvious that the issue of ethnic conflicts, the issue of religious conflicts , is such a difficult issue for russia, and it is even more acute against the background of the fact that now they are looking for terrorists, they are looking for an internal enemy, one of the internal enemies this week is already me i consider them to be officially appointed migrants because the head

of the investigative committee of the russian federation, oleksandr bystrykin, spoke with such a statement. there were 11,000 21 22 15,000 murderers of serious criminals committed by migrants by 18%, the idea is told by people while the russians are at the front, migrants are attacking , people are offering if they stole russia , they got citizenship, please go to the front and go to the front and fulfill your civic duty себя народенно налишит citizenship is one such

statement. but it is interesting that it is also dispersed and, in principle, the propagandists are very active . in general, these slides are very interesting, there were migrants there there are different ones, but they are clearly, well, detailed on migrants of non-slavic origin, so it is interesting, and also about migrants of non-slavic origin, there was a whole conversation that was summed up with the following words, as a result, on solovyov's broadcast, migrants who are all under control, which all uh means taxis and modern vehicles are offered, such as scooters , these super milcypeds, which can be driven in any weather with boxes. where you can carry anything on your back, you can bring a kilogram of 50 explosives on your back. all of our entrances and i need to call if he knows that ivanov ivan ivanovich lives in such an apartment. there, the leader spends in warehouses. zhenya

, who will eliminate ronaldo, he simply approaches and dials. he calls the apartment and tells you it’s a message from friends. he opens the door , shoots in the forehead and leaves. listen, well, this is, first of all, a real nightmare, secondly, you understand what it leads to, so simple. to direct clashes. i'm interested in how you assess the possibility of these internal, you know , the potential of this internal and different let's say ethnic movement within russia and precisely this situation with migrants, because without migrants the russian economy will not survive. we all understand this and they understand it themselves. of course, it will not work as they are used to in all these scooters, e-e deliveries at four in the morning, they will not be there if there will be no migrants, we also understand all this very well, but after a while he has already voiced literally the same thing that i voiced to you literally three minutes ago, that the mobilization potential of this group is very, very large

and they want to use it and they they will use it even more to intensify this process, they can actually start a couple of cases there about terrorism or the facilitation of terrorism by such people and scare them in the migration services directly saying that if you are not there conditionally showing a desire to protect your new you will go to your homeland, how about your friend in prison as a terrorist, and secondly, there are really even more global processes here, in fact, the russian federation, one way or another, all the time tries to flirt with the topic of terrorism, the last one there is it seems like six months or even more, and the question is that one day or another they can go from the self stage to the kto stage , that is, the stage of a counter-terrorist operation, when everything

will be managed by the fsb, and here i think that public opinion in the russian federation is simply being tested for loyalty to this idea that that we will again fight terrorism there and here there will be two types of terrorists, actually it will be terrorism linked to the islamic component to the same migratory component of central asia or to the same immigrants from the caucasian republics but also those who are not share the idea of ​​kadyrov's paid troops and so on, man, we will be new terrorists, we will be new chechens for them, and here i simply think that it is a protest of public opinion , because this is really a big soup, that is, if we transfer command from the military to the special services, then these are, accordingly, different methods of conducting hostilities, this is a different war and the transition to completely different attacks on us, so

we really need to be careful about such things. i think that we will observe this situation and see where it actually goes. bring the russian federation to its federal government, but i hope there are opportunities for us to take advantage of this situation, because it is obvious that when everything breaks down, when they have hysteria and the search for literally everyone's internal enemies, this always also destabilizes the government, thank you. it was maria kucherenko analyst of the fund, come back alive well, you and i will meet soon , it's hard to talk about what you feel when you have urinary incontinence, an unpleasant situation can arise at any time , even from a minor effort, fortunately - it's behind me, feminost uro helped me thanks to