[000:00:00;00] what kind of child well, what was passed on to experience so that the wisdom of the grandfather balanced the energy of a mature person, but in principle it is the same person all the time, they all repeat for thousands of years - this is stability. well, if you think about it, it is also a good idea for putin because if it is unknown how many doppelgangers does that mean now putin can be the first and then the second and then the third stage of 500 years well, it's just that people don't live that long well, maybe putin lives who knows people don't live and who who told you that valentina telizhkova would come out on the tribune of the state duma will say, let's write an article in the constitution that putin is always alive and that they will not vote on the fact, but at birth homosapiy, precisely if he did not die . well, it is impossible to kill. well, it has

already been 90 years for you and me, and he is 70. well, and what will we say? oh, you know it's not putin, you know, there's an article of discrediting the president of the russian federation. you think it's not putin, you'll sit for 25 years, 25 years of discrediting for the very idea that it's not putin. well, it was some kind of thing . i think it's serious. but i think that doppelgangers there is no, there is another problem, there is fear, so he was afraid of the coronavirus, not even because he could die, because he was simply afraid, he was so psychologically arranged by the ss, in addition , he was afraid of his ex-wife, from whom he divorced. he always, when he went somewhere with her , meant that she would live in a room at one end of the hotel, he was at the other, more precisely, and he was afraid, he was nervous, well, it’s like a white table , so that he doesn’t meet her, she could poison him. well, i don’t know what he is there. i thought, but he had such a distance from his wife as from macron, then it means that now he is afraid of drones, it means that he is afraid of drones, so he decided and it is serious. that

he should have a human shield in the form of presidents in other countries. he was not going to invite anyone. they officially said this at this parade on may 9, 2023 as at the previous one, there will be no one, we do not invite foreign leaders because it is not a round date , it is good here, suddenly three days before all this he just breaks off the coils why are you already piloting already got into this tower we are not even we know who started it and he starts calling everyone, you know how some stupid uncle just woke up and said oh my god, my birthday is in three days, i 'm kidding, you'll come to the cash register in jamar, you've literally come to have breakfast, just sleep, nothing , just have breakfast, lukashenko, not even i had breakfast and that is, it looked strange, but then there was serhii markov, a drunkard, there is a local alcoholic who was once a member of the state

duma, i want to get into it again, you understand, and he explains what he likes, what it we invited her so that they would be a human shield where the president of russia, i.e. so that the ukrainians would not shoot red square well , because it is bad if there are several heads of state you will shoot, i.e. he invited them absolutely deliberately to cover him with their bodies and if they helped him if some drone fell or a missile was covered, i just thought it wouldn’t fall and they can shoot it, well, they can shoot it anywhere but they won’t shoot it, there is logic in this, because any of our allies said so. they can’t do anything in the red squares. if there the president of kazakhstan, this is very dangerous as a result of the events, uh, and there is the prime minister of armenia, well, it is clear to the whole, there is absolutely no logic in this, but the chekista, but the attitude towards the leaders of other countries , you understand once, then it means a parade shield with shield

a if the tanks are damaged, they may not work, they are to blame, it’s a pity, it’s a tank, you understand this kind of cynicism . and it’s a pity, it’s just as iron because it’s more expensive, we’ll make it like that in the past, and the zsu has already destroyed a lot, and it’s just out of fear, because if you ask him, well, he’ll just meet he said that volodymyr volodymyrovych, you are afraid that tanks are foresight with angelica, you should not confuse foresight with a whip, well, that's all he will tell you, that is, i even know in advance all his lines are absolutely obvious. what did you see there, and it all looks terrible by the way, they also canceled the immortal regiment out of fear, because they were afraid that people would leave with the current dead on sticks. well, it

’s also scary. what is he? if you want to make these people heroes, then you have on the contrary, be happy if people come out for their portraits. no, there was no immortal regiment anywhere, except for some distant countries of the world , they didn’t even want to hold it in europe , or in laos or cambodia, something like that, i’ll give it so that no one saw anything, and here it means it’s also scary that is, they are afraid of everything. invincible legends, you understand. you know, all this is also interesting. it is interesting that everyone did not congratulate putin on the so-called victory day , although putin obviously expected such a greeting. what do you think on may 9 - it is not protocol holiday heads of states congratulate russia day this protocol holiday today sends protocol telegrams on the so-called

russia day to putin on may 9 no one congratulates anyone except the leaders of the countries of the so-called anti-hither coalition because they come to the e-e parade yes there was a time when russia was considered a normal state, remember how many of these leaders there were in moscow, always on may 9, don’t push through, you know, and the western countries of european states that were freed by the allies from trouble in the world, it was in yeltsin times, even in putin's first years. it was a real international event, the summit, and it was a form of greeting , but sisinfin could come to me. three days before the council, better come, you will cover my body so that the ukrainians don't kill me, but that would be strange for the chinese, so he had no one to greet, it's all fiction, it

's completely incomprehensible where they 're coming from, we're talking like that about what the usa and china is trying to normalize its relations, in particular, jack salvan and wang spoke in vienna, held a meeting in it was very long and about eight hours, and vitaly, when blinken’s trip was planned, it still didn’t take place because of the balloon. crossed the space of the united states of america and then accusations were heard towards china and escalated in this way refers to when this balloon flew over the united states relations between the attack by washington and let us reach the bottom and always when there is such a uh, sharp decline in the level of relations, although then just before that there were attempts to improve these relations, then

the process of restoring relations at the level of either informal contacts or national security advisers, by the way, at one time there was a very similar story between the soviet union and the united states when the process of finding an understanding was going on and nikita khrushchev even flew to the united states and met with president dutt meisenhower, but then a manned plane was shot down over the soviet union espionage plane with pilot pavers who came out with this result and the soviet union was so angry or had a reason for anger that the relations between the united states and the soviet union reached the bottom, moreover , then they organized an international conference on security in paris, where they were going, give zenhauer and

charles de gaulle and nikita khrushchev and nikita khrushchev left this conference, that is, nothing came of it, and this then led to the caribbean crisis, the world was steadily approaching the third world war, and only when the caribbean it was possible to avert the charisma, a slow process of normalization of relations began, which ended in some kind of detente, not immediately, there are future times, in fact, because of the presidency of kennedy johnson in the time of chovtanics, you can imagine what a long process it is, and the driving moment was the plane this is something like from a balloon because such things they destroy trust or give an opportunity to say that trust is destroyed i don't think that the soviet union trusted the united states he just got visual evidence

of espionage so what does this mean in practice that in such a situation there are advisers who are the contact advisers on national security issues. by and large , he performs similar functions in the current chinese party leadership. such an adviser, all delphin personal advisers, have we already talked about these personal advisers today, the tamars, these are such personal foreign policy advisers of the club , who was trusted, and these calls are questions in foreign policy, he trusts vienna, but there is a new minister of foreign affairs in china . well, somehow, he does not perform official duties very well. when it comes to such things, it is a question of guilt. what did they agree on? it seems that they agreed to negotiate further. they agreed to unlock the negotiation . process , this means that anthony blinken can soon visit the state liaison office, they agreed to continue consultations there on

the nomenclature of the issue that was discussed and in principle agreed upon by these delegations, then there certain groups of issues were highlighted, this is an important moment that is now in china in the united states. and by the way, now in the same department they are talking about the fact that the secretary of state of the united states, anthony blinking, is going to meet in the near future to visit pekingese in this is literally the news of the last hours and this is the result of these victories, but i’m clucking, do you understand your calculations, because we see that china is like a mediator between russia and ukraine and is being treated by a special representative of the ministry of foreign affairs of the chinese people’s republic and the former ambassador of china in moscow what route does he take

kyiv-warsaw berlin paris moscow and where washington has such an impression . let's not pay attention to the americans, this is practically not a peacekeeping process , but a process of separation of europe and america, and this is also obviously what was talked about in february. well, honestly , it will contribute to the improvement and normalization of relations , but it does not contribute to 10 calls and to the americans i will have to make great efforts to prove to the chinese that none of this will happen, here i am quoting this statement of the representative of the american state department , who was just talking about this situation. he

clearly said that europeans and americans are in close relations as never before and - and this is a completely logical statement for the er-e leading american er-e diplomat mr. tato said that we have never been more closely connected when it comes to our view of the huge number of problems related to the rise of china and china's behavior in international in eh relations, so this is a real struggle, and apart from the issue of the war in ukraine and the position of china in relation to this and the us, of course, they are different , the cornerstone still remains taiwan , that taiwan remains with this issue, once there remains the behavior of china in the pacific region, where china is trying to compete not only with the united states but also with

australia, and in competition with australia, he is trying to create his own zones of influence that can become a military zone of influence on those joaquin islands because there is a whole group oceanic states that have special relations with china are leaving. china hopes to first make economic investments and then start strengthening its military influence . africa remains because china is not just investing in africa, it is trying to gain a foothold there through military and technical means. and now we have already mentioned sudan. and we must remember remember that now such countries let's say ethiopia and eritrea to a certain extent like sudan, they are already dependent on the port, and therefore these countries are a naval base and under the people's republic of china, and this by and large

this is the former french territory of the faroe islands and issa is a french possession, and they believed that it would be a separate state that would not have the sovereignty of ethiopia or three times somalia, this would be reinforced by the fact that this port would be such an extraterritorial western port, and it itself would be a chinese port. that victory over the west is not a victory. well, there are many such examples, and china is trying to come everywhere and it is trying to squeeze everyone, so there are a lot of rather serious circumstances here. and now we will see that the chinese will offer to kiev and moscow because a visit by likha is not an ice phenomenon, it means that the chinese really want to drag the president of ukraine and the ukrainian leadership into some kind of another trap because i generally think that you know the cossack today is treated simply in chinese published by dmytro kozyk after the paris summit of the norman four, it was a simple task not

to negotiate with ukrainians, to deceive them , to draw them into traps, to create elements of mistrust between the ukrainian authorities and ukrainian society, to create elements mistrust between ukraine and the west, and he tried to do all this, he just didn’t succeed, for a certain moment , i think he succeeded, but then a full-scale war began, and the position of the ukrainian authorities changed, i also agree. yes, maybe , but i just mean that we did not create after then it was protested that these exercises were simply sold, the council of the dpr of the lpr of ukraine was not created, not only society was against it, but the german and french diplomacy forgets that they did not advise doing this either. do you remember russia? they wanted to create a joint inspection of the ukrainian army where the dpr or lpr would be without russians. they always had the idea

of ​​bringing us into direct contact with the so-called separatists, who never existed, you know. you see, we are not separatists. they are just collaborators, of course we are. then all the time, where did this word separatists go, why don't we use it now, i always said, why do you call them that, these are occupied territories, they are not some people who raised an uprising, you know how in catalonia or corsica, they are separatists they say we want to live in a separate state, but there are no italian troops in the kursi, there are no french troops in catalonia , they themselves want that. well, not all of them. i mean those who want independence, and this is called separatism, and there have always been russian troops there, there have been russian ones. troops, and there were some people who served as collaborators of the occupier, but who themselves never raised any flags in their lives . there were never any separatists in crimea or in the donbas, and they also

threw it at us all the time, and we, by the way, we swallowed it, we called it that way all the time and now by the way, no one says that because everyone understands that those who fight against ukraine are not separatists, that's growing up, that's how he can be a traitor well, he takes a russian passport , well, it's his well, any person does she can come already, because she is a russian mercenary, not only from donetsk . it just under occupation, when the ukrainian army comes, people go out into the street with ukrainian flags , i convince you all oh, what will happen if we take donetsk, there are people who do not want to live in ukraine, but i assure you , people will come out with the same ukrainian flags, of course there will be those who supported the occupiers, then they served them, they will get scared, they will flee with the occupiers to russia or somewhere else. and someone will sit there because it will be left as an agent, but a huge

number of people will welcome us, you see, we always say, here are the partisans the partisan movement means the people who live there, the ones who find out the information themselves, the ones who blow up the kupantsi themselves, these are the ordinary citizens of ukraine in the occupied territories . it would have been the same where there were 8 years of occupation in melitopol. i will tell you more about the same thing, and to occupy the kyiv region for eight years was the same because it's sorry, it's not the army that is doing the sweeps anymore, but the national guard of the fsb, which is methodical well, they were going to do them methodically, they are destroying those who had an active position and thus those who can fight against the occupiers, this is the so-called sleeping agency, which stays there specifically, but these are not the people who went to the squares and were some kind of

public activists, etc., etc. and this just people about whom no one knows anything, or people who were recruited after the beginning of the occupation, you know, who decided to do it after that, but they don't have any. if you want a social footprint, because if you have a social world, why are you a journalist there? donetsk independent newspaper or public activist, you have no doubt that they will come to you and take you to the basement, well, it was the same with everyone, we know what stanislav went through on the wallpaper, and from this one, what flies and tortures was he there, he was just among journalists who worked for the radio freedom under an alias, they found him, they accused him of espionage , they tortured him, and so on, with tens of hundreds of people, and this by the way, the counteraction camp in donetsk of the himmler-hitler type continues to exist. well, of course, when you occupying melitopol, you can't do all this so quickly, you need the time, well, in kherson they also started to go to the people

, but they didn't have time, it can't be done that's how , even the bolsheviks, they needed 10 years there to clear everyone from russia, from ukraine, who was against them, it remains for literally 10 minutes, mr. vitaly, another interesting topic is what is happening in georgia, because putin has been very cunning now. in my opinion, he has proposed to restore air traffic, and in order to make it easier for the citizens of georgia the possibility of returning to the motherland from the russian federation canceled visas, the georgian government supports all this , but the georgian people, well, partially, at least, no, they went to the protests. why is this manipulation on this openly aa putin 's ? it is economically beneficial for them to have the kind

of relations with russia that they have and for them economic issues are more important issues of national dignity and national interests . i want to remind you that the ukrainians of 2008 they introduced themselves just like that, remember putin attacks georgia with medvedev then medvedev as president, it’s funny to remember it now but it was like that, but in ukraine the main discussion is at what price we will buy gas no one says let’s give up russian gas from ukraine no one says let’s introduce visa regime with russia no no the whole discussion is mainly about what kind of relations we should have with russia in terms of gas, this is a public request to which politicians respond when president viktor yushchenko flies to tbilisi it is perceived as uh absolute an inappropriate escalation that we do not need, even though yushchenko was in the georgian capital together with the president of poland, through

the kachin leaders of the baltic countries, and i am now looking at this situation clearly aware that this was a historical act, it was precisely the act that ultimately led to this ukrainian coup in 2022 that's why when we say why georgians yes, we have to ask why we are georgians simply have experience they see that war is coming anyway but only the wars in ukraine are real, they themselves were in the war with russia the federation and they have occupied 20% of the territory, but i simply mean that a huge number of people may think that it is necessary to survive, and survival depends on normal economic relations with russia, that was their logic, they say that if we introduce sanctions against russia our economy would fall by 10%. and so it rose by 10% from those who say, let's carry out sanctions , spoil relations with moscow, they want to boil the georgian people, i will repeat it again

, ukrainian politicians also said something year i just remember all this and it's uh the mistake was ours together i'm not saying that i was flawless in these positions there in 2008 because i remember that i said then that uh uh i'm not evaluated the trip of president yushchenko in the categories that i am telling you now, i had a different idea. i thought that the president of ukraine would involve ukraine in a war with russia, we would lose crimea and not only crimea, this is just a quote from the language of the text at that time, i was right, we really lost crimea and in this country because the army we had was at that time the eighth year, and we fought because of yanukovych in the 14th year, and then turned out to be incapable of effective defense. she even proved psychologically incapable of a war with russia at first. it took a moment for her to survive this shock. but i think that i was

wrong in another sense i thought that this war could be stopped, but it was necessary to prepare for it, and from the fact that we then believed that president yushchenko was reckless, we were not able to protect ourselves from the war, because we had to draw a different conclusion, we had to realize even then that russia is a danger. the ukrainians reacted in a completely opposite way, they elected yanukovych as he said, no, on the contrary, what should happen after georgia. he should be from russia, and that's how it is, because otherwise there will be problems . they made a mistake more than once when the opzj was launched into the verkhovna rada. and it was the second largest in number i say to france as much as we can er, that is, i am not saying that georgians are behaving correctly, i am simply calling on us to understand the mechanism of this behavior, both elite and social .

she has no business, they believe that there is no need for visa-free regimes with russians, on the other hand, the same people support the government and the georgian dream. she has an unprecedentedly high rating, and if that means it turns out that on the one hand, russia is bad, but it is better to have a government that will preserve we have this stability, and it is dangerous. i am generally sure, and this also applies to the trip of all these presidents on may 9, that we are all in roughly the same danger according to a very simple formula: putin will use this war with ukraine to force capitulation of the other former soviet republics and if someone says well, let's better surrender and then it won't be as scary as the country's button, then they will just come to him , he will surrender, they will join the russian federation and what will they do next, they will mobilize for the next one, he will be with whoever does not want

that is, you can't surrender here, unfortunately, you can't buy peace by capitulation, you can buy peace only by isolating russia from the post-soviet space. by the way, mikheil saakashvili wrote that he believes that putin is creating the conditions for an invasion of georgia now and to complete what he did not manage to do in 2008, what he did not succeed in, i do not think that he is creating conditions for an invasion, i think that he is creating conditions for absorption, it is not one and the same he wants georgia to break relations with the west, but become dependent on russia and it may not be necessary to invade there further. i am still from belarus. now and what could have happened to us . well, let's put it this way, then you can impose on georgia a negotiation process with abkhazia , the southern city , the normalization of relations. you will all join the eurasian economic union together, well, you can use different tools and it is dangerous, it is dangerous for the future of the georgian

people, underestimating the danger is something that was characteristic of ukrainians from 1991 to 2020, the second year to 2022, underestimating the danger , and of course we can ask georgians something they underestimate the danger although they were already at war because the wars in georgia were not the first war in 2008, they were short-term , a short-term war creates the illusion that you can somehow recover from it that you can't fight. so how are we actually fighting to the point of exhaustion ? and you can ask, who said that the next war will be different ? georgians have guarantees that the russian army, if it wants to do something again, will stop in front of

the white house . well, what about the euro-atlantis work of georgia to fight for the georgian society and the zaguga state, to create tools that will separate georgia from russia. this is how it should be . unfortunately, we do not have any other tool here, and to show the georgian government that it cannot sit on two chairs if this was previously shown by the ukrainian authorities. i have forever in the year 2000. maybe we have not reached such a terrible situation, it cannot be in the conditions when the state is threatened with the disappearance of any multi-vector foreign policy, you know this multi-faceted foreign policy - this brings the happy and we are unhappy because we are neighbors of russia, and the unhappy must clearly hold on to a clear understanding of who they are with who can help them and who can protect them that's all

we have to finish the words we with the audience listened to your analysis with joy , held a saturday political club for you vitaliy portnikov see you in exactly a week in this company and in a few moments iryna koval with the final news release, please wait greetings to all viewers of the espresso tv channel in studio iryna koval and for your attention the final news release the day of reckoning for russian military pilots criminals the authorities of the aggressor country have currently confirmed