[000:00:00;00] russia, but no one wants to pay out of their own pocket. do you think these initiatives will help, because we remember from history that when the russians were unable to achieve the desired results in the first world war, russia also started volunteering, er, all reservists and those people who agitated to go to the fronts of the first world war were usually beaten because the people were so fed up with all of this that they had already beaten these agitators and said that the only front is not agitating here. in your opinion , will this ploy by putin work or not to what extent i will say this is a barbell, i will explain why, look, a volunteer implies good will, that is, you of your own free will, with good will, with good wishes , for reasons, you start doing something without receiving a salary for it, that is, good freely in ukraine, this movement is volunteer, it went from the bottom up, yes, that is

from below, people accumulated double, three , tens, hundreds of funds were created independently, some known funds, some unknown funds, some less known, and did great, good, good, good deeds there, for ukraine as a whole, for the army for ukrainians, but in the russian federation it is the opposite, they bring it down from the mountain like this, yes, create a volunteer movement. yes, let them support from below, that is, i see. in this way, they are simply trying to translate the financial introduction of the war from, well, not even translate, but to make such a joint responsibility not only so that the state budget bears responsibility and let ordinary russians also participate with their kopeck, their ruble, and get their money out of their pockets, they finance the army and all its needs. i thank you very much for joining thank you for detailed interesting comments, or most importantly, ivan stupak was with us an employee of the security service of ukraine in 2004-2015, but as you know, a former

employee of any special services does not happen , so mr. ivan, we reserve the right to have access to this or that information and that what can we usually voice, by the way, i am now according to us to join, i will introduce you for now, because it will also be interesting to talk about a person, i ask you not to go anywhere, but stay with us and you will learn more about where the american will join us journalist, publicist and author of books about the collapse of the ussr and post-soviet russia. it is very interesting to talk and very important to talk. because you know , a lot is decided on the battlefield and, of course, the ukrainian armed forces , the ukrainian people, the volunteer movement, and also , in many ways, ukrainian politicians and how then they say active and that in reserve , well, they mean those politicians who are not in power now, but all the same , they join our work in one way or another, this is all important, but the world is still coming to

the understanding that one must try to see or draw and simulate the world without this russia that exists now, no one can say what kind of russia it will be, because making any predictions is, well, first of all , naively, you know, shortly before the schedule of the soviet union a few years ago or even less, no less we were talking about a shorter period of time in the united states gathered to talk about what will happen to the soviet union and then people who studied the economic potential of people's attitudes military potential e-e the power of vertical power the power of special services control over the media and over opinions people. they came to the conclusion that the soviet union would exist for at least another 20 years. that is, relatively speaking , the soviet union would exist from 1990 or 1989. independent states, which later, by the way, russia also wanted to hump under itself

, but it has something like that. you see, as we can see, they enter the file, mr. david . i congratulate you, yes. not evening but still i welcome you here in the morning. i understand unconditionally. i also welcome you. i don’t know how much time we will have because we are waiting for a broadcast from germany where our president will be the president . charlemagne’s award will sound. but i will ask the main question. мировые мой ключие и ключие умы eh-eh model of the world after the defeat of russia or it is not yet emerging not in the mind not as

it is said on paper please my a-a we do not know how it is possible to react to the defeat of different layers in russian society and a-a it is necessary too, remember, the example and the cancer sent a violation from adam hussein, and in the first , vanya ordered the repression inside the cancer and against the shields, and he still retained power, so we do n’t, we don’t know what will happen if it happens . a new round of repression which contributes to the fact that those who are now in power, they preserved it, but the defeat

will definitely be a huge destabilizing factor, and so it was historical, and i remember that russia was defeated in the japanese war for the first time in its history , and i received a constitution. i think it's time to talk about it i think it's a little early to be confident. and about a possible father. and tell me, please. russian elite, if i'm talking about putin, his fate is a little different and will be different from the fate of the rest of the russian elite . and how do you think it will be possible for the russian lycia to buy themselves the right to live

freely and something in russia that will be after this war? sponnay and because this is a fact, the bird did not come from the bandit eh among the eh grabs ostra well, it’s okay if we’re talking about a layer of food, and it’s not yet clear that they are trying to independently contact a-a and establish connections with western people and questionable leaders. and we

we know that there is still anxiety because , uh , even doctors . supposing что сейчас the dissatisfaction they expressed and then only rassvet well, who are these people on the table, i was capable of the situation, and i thought that one of the biggest priorities now of the putin regime is its internal security, so a-a naturassic world

your we can rely on this a-a if the situation at the front is perfect, and katya, they will appear wet, but while we have them , they have not yet made themselves known. and tell me clearly that before the invasion, it was long before the invasion, and we talked in the west and understood that putin wants to attack. only question in volume that many assumed that he would be able to achieve his results and take, at least, kiev under control, and at most all of ukraine under control, but it did not turn out that way, and , uh, everyone in the world had to change. the west has seen racism often officially already the russian dialogue in ukraine , that's what it's called, or russian fascism only after the invasion. how did russia manage

to put germany and italy and france to sleep ? here is the chamber interest god of desire definitely does not see the most obvious a-a but in general, and we have one that is characteristic of the western for er democratic countries and all together a-a eagle dobol na a-a miracle on go beatlen euro because we weren't ready , i even remember when i was speaking together with myself, nemtsov 2000 in the eighth year

. being a partner is serious he is a threat and he must be restrained, but of course it was absolutely irrelevant to this conversation because people are hurt by it and don’t and don’t forget everything about it. i did not shy away from understanding that she is concerned about his country. this

is very much part of the psychology of americans, because there are many questions in america . house , so that all questions can be simply always agreed upon it became so obvious that it's impossible, but we broke through, i can

ask one more question and one more question, but it does n't seem important. the order where, er, the usa will be, well, in kiev, one center will make decisions about china and everything around china will be the second. the new world is ready , or the united states will be ready for this world if it is understood that everything will be different. well, this will complicate the positions of, say, the soviet union of the european union and ukraine, which will be in the european union, i am also helping china from the other side for a long time because, after all , the american side must prepare for a new peace and a new order because ukraine will be

a western ally if it is a member of nato or not members, it will still be a closeness of america's ally. i don't know. well, we are a terrible option . and how is it usual to build it? but the situation, well, here is a new danger, among other things . the country that attacked ukraine will play its mouth inside the country , and if it is all about it, in order to solve the situation in russia, we do not know what can be there, i am grateful to you. thank you very much. david sater

, american journalist and publicist, author books about the collapse of the ussr and post-soviet russia in your chest eh well yes good day because they still have only morning in new york and it will be a vidsator very cool talk and now we will talk about eh what is happening now in the republic of turkey that is waiting for her in the future and, in general , this is the southern european black sea region in which turkey plays an important role. olga budnyk, in fact, a correspondent of ukrinform in turkey, mrs. olga, welcomes you, welcomes you to the studio today in turkey, they are electing a president and not it may not be er-e regekto and perdogana kemal kilychda raglu well, maybe what is the situation now, how are the elections taking place, maybe there is information about the turnout of voters in the mood, are there any er-e facts. how is it? in ukraine, there are always er-er throwing ballots and some other violations

please, i will say that the elections are really historic and they took place calmly. it has already been officially announced that no significant violations were found. 40 minutes ago, the polling stations were closed and it was officially announced that the elections are over. the counting begins. from such an extraordinary event, two people had heart attacks at the precincts and unfortunately it was not possible to save them more than 600,000 security forces were responsible for security and even helicopters and airplanes were used for patrolling it is currently unknown how many people voted this will be the number announced before the president dogan voted in istanbul his main opponent of the opposition leader klychdar glugo voted in ankara now president erdogan has also arrived in ankara and will observe the results of voting in the capital today cast your vote in the parliamentary and presidential elections 600 million 700,000 people could vote, and as noted by those who were at the polling stations, a lot of young people came because, in general, in turkey, elections are considered to be a

matter of older people, but the interest of young people shows that they are now cheering and want to participate in the future in the turkish e -e polling stations of your country, so it is very difficult to find out how many votes were cast for the president or for his rival, the main opposition, and we will wait for the results, the first results somewhere in hour will begin to appear as soon as the counting begins, they will be sent to the higher election commission, and then they will be given , these data will be updated online and, er, we expect that by midnight the result will be known , at least for the presidential election, for the presidential election, the result will be announced first, and already later it will be after the parliamentary elections. and please tell me, we have such a tradition in ukraine for one of the times, probably kravchuk kuchma. and for us, maybe

even kravchuk chornovola, i am at that time, slava, i remember the elections, but well, i am in them then i did not participate, but always when the key candidates come to the polling stations, representatives of the press are waiting for them and they throw something, well, at first they throw a ballot on the camera, and then they say something on the camera about their expectations, and by their mood you can already understand in principle what they are counting on. although everyone tries to demonstrate confidence a-a did you manage to observe what they said , what these two candidates looked like, and rezhekto and perdogan and kemalkevich jaraglu. and i would like to note for the first time that there is still an intrigue whether there will be a second round of the presidential elections and both candidates, before that vote, you expressed confidence that they would win in the first round, but today, the regime you are, pardogan said that he is following the democratic elections and that they are like that, and kilychdar uglu said that spring will come to turkey, that is, no

it can be said that they somehow outlined that something special but i think that both candidates are expecting victory in the first round well, mr. kiivs , of course, there is a little bit of plagiarism yulia volodymyrivna yulia volodymyrivna tymoshenko who once went to the elections with the slogan spring will definitely win. well, you see, there is no desire to reach there in turkey either. and i would also like to ask the ukrainians. well, in principle, every nation is selfish in many ways and thinks what benefit we can get from this or that candidate, and especially when we are traumatized by the war, we we are in a state of war , of course

, it is very important for us how to elect whom and what the winner of the elections can offer us to the key country, let's be honest, the black sea region. for ukraine, who will be better, who will be better, we will not have drastic changes in our strategic relations , as they have developed actively and will continue to develop, the only thing is that if you win president rodogan, then we do not need to reconfigure anything. in principle, we already have everything ready and will work as it is earlier if the leader of the opposition wins, then of course it will take some time to adjust the clocks to establish contacts, but here you know that the main thing now for us and in ukraine and for the whole region is important to civil peace and political stability in the country in turkey remained and this is the main thing, everything else is on the agenda , it was still active and our relations will develop regardless of who wins the elections in turkey well, please tell me , there are no streets in turkey i'm not saying that, god forbid, confrontations between voters

in ukraine are well, there are some of them very vividly - the most obvious was expressed in 2004-2005, when there was a confrontation between yushchenko and yanukovych, and then it reached well, in the end, fights actually took place in the maidan and so on, but the voters of these two candidates are radically different, and do they calmly accept each other and understand that in any case, whoever wins, it will not be a tragedy. turkey will live on. well, maybe even on the other hand, it will be better, first of all, from an economic point of view, than from a verbal type of barkhan. you know, vasyl, you asked a very valid question, in fact, the tension in society is maintained due to the fact that every political force and supporters of every political force count on victory they are counting on victory to the point that they are ready in principle and have repeatedly stated that they want , uh, even to do some kind of big fight, but at the same time, the presidential candidates say that there is no need to do any fight, everything will be resolved

peacefully, uh, now about fights about some riots, there is no such information , and it seems to me that the elections were very peaceful , but now the night of counting the votes awaits, and they will remain at the polling stations until the morning . as representatives of various political parties , the ruling party and the opposition, they will to carry out the counting, those controlling each other will also put all the ballots in bags, then they will print them and, accompanied by the police, they will send a new higher election commission, i.e. , are there possible conflicts between them or are there any possible provocations with that ? will happen and everything will happen in a democratic way, as both candidates claim. by the way, i have my inner voice and it always tells me in my ear. my colleagues tell me that they had a fight.

a week ago, around the time of the elections in the netherlands, so there was a fight there, no, in holland, now, no, in the netherlands, right now , that is, they are always confused in the netherlands, there was a fight, well, the citizens of turkey who voted there in amsterdam at the polling station , they found out their relationship. well, this is such an isolated story. it is also interesting to know about his time, again, yanukovych . well, where is his confrontation with the democrats in ukraine - this is such a special feature of the pages of ukrainian history, very vivid. he always won. well, when there were parliamentary elections, there were presidential elections in in the fifth year, thanks to the fact that he had a lot of support in the south-east, south-east of our country, and the population density there is much higher than, say, in central ukraine, and moroz - he always wanted to be the president, but his constituency is all of central ukraine, vinnytsia, and so on fewer people lived there and only because of this, yanukovych always had, as they say, an ace up his sleeve in turkey with more than 80 million

people, but let's say that the city of istanbul has more than 15 million people, which regions, how much of the population are voters or bright sympathizers of erdoğan and what a kerchdalo uglu now we have to learn to pronounce without stopping, is there not such a thing that this region is for one, this region is for another, and it is clear that here there are more people who will vote for them, and in the south, let's say somewhere there are fewer people, they are for erdoğan, and it doesn't matter anyway more of these, please, first of all, big cities, and you know that in istanbul , the opposition parties won in the previous elections for the local leadership, that is, it is logical that the big cities will most likely show some result for the opposition, but by the way, on this not only big cities, uh, with 60, the total population is 85 million, as i said, 60 million , 700,000 had the right to vote, and uh, if

you take 15 million, istanbul, 5 million, ankara, and there are three million, izmir is 23 million in the 1960s under the president, there were eastern regions, let’s see how it is now, because there was an earthquake there and a large number of people moved , they should have registered to vote, but as you know, 1 million voters who should have voted if the earthquake had not happened, they did not register, i.e. they will not be anywhere, they simply did not participate in the elections, how will it be distributed regionally? we'll see who moved where, we'll also understand, but most likely the big cities will cast their votes for the leader of the opposition. well, since we have a few minutes, i'll ask two questions , one: were there any attempts at bribery ? not that they distributed buckwheat there or did some other things. well, let's say there they dramatically promised to increase payments to certain categories of the population, to increase them. i don't

know the pension. well, maybe there is their own accumulated pension system. i again after all, i don’t know the turkish system, so there was no need to guess or promise anything else on the eve of the elections that could have an impact, because again, in ukraine, there are always politicians who are in power, well, in the vast majority, they promise something, either to increase pensions or social benefits or the living wage well, or something else, and it works very often, it actually works, even a one-time donation also works, how about a thousand from a certain candidate, please ? unfortunately, unfortunately, 50 seconds, but you will have time, please, you noted only about the pi- about the fact that yanukovych came to power with falsifications, so here in turkey, despite the fact that the government controls the country in all spheres , the large electoral system remains a powerful democratic institution and does not allow falsification or mass distortion of the election results, and in addition, you asked

about what was promised, yes, the ruling party promised a lot, and it can even be said that such an election is pre-election rain gold fell on the voter, but we will see. will it affect free gas, pensions, salary increases for civil servants, who knows, only at midnight we will find out the results of the final elections. speak already in the great artery, he will have more information, i understand that the elections are already ending or have already ended and there will already be certain results that we will be able to announce to you now we are moving to the federal republic of germany, to the city of aachende, the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, should present a-a prize named after charlemagne , the founder of the holy roman empire, the emperor of the frankish empire, and an outstanding person, this

prize is awarded for the unification of europe. well, if we have a broadcast, let's let 's go and see, let's listen to stories, such a few words had such a great effect, it was immediately clear that ukraine, the people, will not succumb to russian violence, ukrainians give birth, we can be today, together with you, europe united the ukrainian people, and especially around president zelenskyi, and we are very grateful to the president when the reasons for the european charlemagne award, many parts

of europe and germany were still in ruins, this was when it was founded, two world wars have passed, a crime show crisis hunger was still not far away this is peace and independence it was very far away visas and despite this the dream of the parents of the founders of this award was more and more after receiving this list of all awarded cheats how they ratata on the rapper schuman, simon bell, and you. glory to havel and broneslav akita , men with great courage and far-sightedness ironed out

what was at first self-evident. the people of ukraine are in pain and, well, the war is aimed at everything that europe stands for now, but this is ukraine, which is for ukraine and for the european union, for everyone, a member, it is for us only for a while, it is all of us together we belong one to the other and our history, let's continue this all together and in the future i know myself an optician