[000:00:00;00] of course, it has to be someone higher than the minister of defense, and it is obvious in the russian system . with the nazis satanist-satanists in principle propaganda continues, but at the moment it is very actively beginning to be filled with this turbo-patriotic such justice from dry as wagner prigozhyn tries to demonstrate and promote these uh ideological the constructions are new and they by the way, i think they are based on the foundation of the soil that was actually created by russian propaganda, here we can expect that when russian propaganda will begin to form the constructions promoted by prigozhin, then it will be possible

to talk about the full er let's say this the victory of this particular wing. but i think that precisely in the administration of president putin , they try to play with different ideological directions and they do not allow the superiority of one or another ideological scheme. therefore , unfortunately, i think we will not be able to enter with with their ideas, although, of course, it is necessary to work on this, there are of course people in russia who listen to ukraine and listen to those positions, let's say, which nevertheless indicate that russia can turn into a territory where new peoples will find their destiny, as we say, the destruction of the prison of nations and then new states will be created on the basis of this destruction. it is these people who can listen to our proposals and ideas, but unfortunately

, the majority of russians, the majority of the russian population, they still cannot imagine that their empire will fall and it's real creates, for example, i think that at the moment there are more chances that russia will turn into a tyranny, for example, not a few decades, a tyranny of the fascist type with the use of the latest achievements of those modern technologies of artificial intelligence, than it will turn into some kind of transformation of this territory into democratic countries, that is now, in my opinion, there are more chances for just such a fascist fascist option than for a democratic one, that is , to say that the defragmentation of russia is the main component of our security in the current at this stage, it looks like such an unlikely reality. yes, and we will prepare for such an even more exalted neighbor with all the risks

of just such an ultra-nationalist direction that can be embodied through the people of alya prigozhyn , for whom he acts as a fragment. and europeans, americans, and the chinese are going to cooperate with that kind of, well, more specifically , the ultranational russian federation , because if defragmentation scares them, then what other model will be built in relations between it is absolutely true that our allies are constantly frightened by the prospect of the collapse of russia. that is, they say that the soviet union was collapsing and it was not predicted, it brought challenges and risks that create huge problems for us , it is just possible for our western allies that the transition is gradual, that is, in a few decades a-a russia before the creation of some

prerequisites for the next transformation maybe it is now more er-e let's say so favorable or a-a more desirable because they may not be ready to engage right now the transformation of russia especially since if we imagine that, for example, putin disappears, is there any prerequisites in russia for the transition to democratic under democratic development formats? i think that more, after all, really the conditions for both the strengthening of putin's regime and its destruction, in fact, absolutely undemocratic forces will come to the surface, absolutely not liberal politicians, but politicians of the opposite opinion, it will be you, the kdb, the fsb, and ghosh's game, who will try to establish their own

order, and if we say how they try, how in in principle, they plan to communicate with these a-a next, let’s say, the successors of fascist russia, our western partners. i think that they do not have such ideas now, but on the other hand, this russia is a black russia. let’s say it should be isolated from the civilized world . china will use it is more like a base for its resources let's say like food for europe for the united states for ukraine this territory will be as isolated as possible it simply needs to be excluded from all civilized civilizations if we speak about western civilization, economic or cultural information links, etc. and then, in principle, we will live in such a state that , unfortunately, we may not be able to pay compensation immediately, it is possible that it will be in a few decades, because it is unlikely that the next

dictatorial regimes will go for cooperation with ukraine or the west, but on the other hand, in fact, we will continue to develop and move in the right direction without this , mr. mykhailo, thank you very much for your professional comments for your inclusion , i will remind our viewers that on the air when we had the press mykhailo samus is the head of the ancient newspaper new geopolitical network and also the deputy director of the army conversion and disarmament research center, and then oleg kadkov joins us - this is a military expert and the editor-in-chief of defense-express mr. i congratulate you good afternoon, thank you for the invitation, this week it became known about such good news that ukraine received british storm shadow missiles and there were even confirmations of that , probable confirmations that this missile had already

begun to carry out its combat missions when we we are talking about the destruction of the luhansk machine-building plant, which was actually used by the enemy as a storage base. so, can it be said that storm shadow missiles really work on the battlefield, and what are the algorithms for their use and the tactics of using these weapons? well, really, everything indicates that storm shadow is all well, at least they are used. let's just say that the wool that was in the occupied luhansk until now, these are the destruction of those objects that were targeted. well, i'm talking about the fact that it was such a real powerful combat unit and uh storm shed, which, by the way, has 450 kg of explosives. and this is twice as much as an atacamus, and there is a rather specific and cunning such combat unit when the first projectile in the mullative, which penetrates reinforced , for example, concrete there, anything else there

, was hindered, for example, a shelter there, and then the warhead already flies into this hole, well, it all seems quite similar to the fact that we are talking, after all, most likely about such a means, and in the end, in relation to the goals, the important aspect here is that, first of all , the cost of this missile is quite high, if in year 11, at year 11 level, she was worth approximately €850,000. somewhere at the level of the beginning of the 20s, according to unconfirmed information, there were one and three, one and four million euros for one, now the british press sent about 2 million pounds in general. i go to our place in ukraine , there will never be thousands of units there because, for the sake of understanding, in the 90s, great britain ordered up to a thousand pieces for itself, france ordered 500 scalps, well, there was something else there only

almost, well, a little bit from another well, almost the same in italy 2011, that is, for ukraine , these missiles are not only quite expensive, they are also precious because of the fact that there will not be thousands of them, and each target must be selected, and those that are objects that were hit in luhansk just fully meet this criterion and can we even assume from what from which platforms we used storm shadow missiles well , it is obvious where after all about the aviation platform and this is again another advantage storming another well, for example, that by myself he will be tied to a certain operational area with the himers ground-based complex - the berlich missile adams, that is, for example, he stands directly there, for example, on the traverse, conditionally there, luhansk, and works on it in order for him to move and work, for example, in the south, it is necessary to spend quite a lot of time in any case, at the same time for such an aircraft, for example , because it was already discussed at the level of november last year that work is underway to

integrate the storm shadow under the wing of the su-24 front-line bomber. for example, such an aircraft can work in one day in three demetrically different directions, and this will be a common practice for it, and that is why if we are talking about such an aircraft, then the su-24, which, naturally , has all the necessary capabilities in this regard, in terms of armament, in relation to pylons, in relation to the possibility of conducting a low -altitude supersonic flight in the execution of the topography of the area, then it is seen as a rather effective carrier er-e wide range. well, when we talk about the cotton luhansk, the enemies found the wreckage of another novelty there, and it turned out there the impression is that the storm was used in tandem with another new type of weapon that was not known before . what do you know about this

? what is the highlight of this new additional option that allows it to be even more effective? of the so-called adm 160 simulators, this is such a small, very small rocket weighing 46 kg . it is small and actually consists of two things : an engine, fuel and a special device that imitates this small rocket. you can launch another aircraft from for example, a missile can be disguised as a missile by a stealth fighter. maybe even a zapy-52 strategic bomber and such small missiles are false targets. they were developed in the usa and are specially designed to first hide the enemy’s air defense positions and fix their radio. well, where are they located ? how do they work out the second aspect - they are used in

order to create false targets and increase . if all the fragments were found directly in luhansk, i.e., occupied for the time being, or flew quite a long distance through fire anti-aircraft missile systems and fell somewhere in luhansk, then it was enough to trigger the fire of an occupied missile system. well, anti-aircraft missile complexes. well, then, the extreme question with which i started our ignorubric is precisely this aircraft wreckage in the bryansk region where several helicopters were shot down. and here is the issue of the defect express wrote that these mi-8 helicopters that were shot down are quite unique examples, namely, the shooting down of both helicopters and fighter-bombers is

actually quite revealing , because this group could not be destroyed at all. their uniqueness and what conclusions can be drawn from these operations . the fact is that this is the situation at the moment and because we are talking about the successful actions of the bryansk air defense, which in a very short time destroyed at least four and as reported air force, most likely, in general, five sides, of which three helicopters and one front-line bomber 134 and one side and functionally determined everywhere 35 and this is happening almost fifty kilometers from the border with ukraine and the question of course now solemn in how it happened in general and all this against the background of absolutely such a correct new view of such silence regarding what it was , let them guess, and because they do not understand what is happening in such a way, and it instills more fear in them, why is it the case in the first place, they acted in absolutely uh, well, as they considered impunity in principle, that is, outside my winter impression of anti-aircraft missile systems

in principle, in the conditions that the ukrainian air force with the available weapons cannot reach them with air missiles , moreover, in this air group, why two specific helicopters mi-8m tpr-1 what are the ferocity of radio electronic warfare? they simply consist of a full-fledged such powerful complex that creates obstacles called the group he jams and according to their official russian sources there in any western soviet radar of anyone, they won’t see us there at all in 35 su-34 state on installed containers rap hibina which are also already if you believe in this ot analogue of net russian e-e russian propaganda they have to silence any urs to create a huge number of false targets on the enemy's radars, and then, in general , these planes are not vulnerable, and in a relatively short time

, this entire air group was destroyed, of course , the question of what well, we could only congratulate the calculations of the bryansk upl in parallel. thank you for these interesting and important comments, i will remind our viewers that last year we had a military expert and chief editor of the defect express oleg kadkov . more international and economic news of darium and when it is on the big air. well, thank you to his guests. well, yuri feeder and i will now discuss very important issues and provide you with the most important and most important just such hot information the world about ukraine well, i mean the elections in turkey first of all yury good evening good evening to you vasyl good evening to everyone who joined us

today there really are important things that vasyl and i will talk about, as well as with the guests who will join before the broadcast, in particular, i will tell you about lukashenko , volodymyr zelenskyi's european voyage continues. well , the peacekeepers from budapest will talk about this and others in a moment in the world about ukraine column . parliamentary, they are important both for ukraine itself and for the country itself, and for us, three candidates are competing for the seat of the head of turkey, the incumbent president rezhektor and perdogan, the only candidate from the six opposition political forces, kemal kelych doroglu and singan-ogan from the alliance ata party , a few weeks before voting, the current turkish leader lagged behind his opponent from the opposition

by 10 points according to the data of sociological polls, but by election day he managed to match and, according to some data, even exceed the indicators of the opposition voting ended today at 5:00 p.m. local time well, it's the same according to kyiv time, and now i'll talk more with ihor simogolos, the director of the middle eastern studies center, who has already joined our program, mr. ihor. congratulations, glory to ukraine. congratulations , glory to the heroes, mr. igor nut. tell me please according to this at seven at 19:00 at seven in the evening the central election commission of turkey has already allowed the data of the vote count to be made public and the last time i looked it seems that they counted nine of by cents of percentages of e-e ballots and according to the calculations of reject and ib erdoğan exceeded the opposition candidate kemal kelets daroğlu

well, by more than 10%. please tell ms. igor or aha and i will add it right away. and in response, the oppositionists said that, well, this is only 9% of the counted, it is not worth drawing any conclusions , in your opinion, it is not worth drawing, or is it already something that can testify to something? well, in principle , we have we mainly focus on the data of the jonsia anatology agency, i.e. what happened now and what kind of votes were counted the opposition urges to ignore this agency and rely on other data. well, even if you take this agency from what you can see, it is half an eighth now. obviously, the situation has changed a little, but in general it is relevant , about 40% of the votes are counted, erdogan has

50 -e two e and there 7%, and the kylizhda forecast is 41-39, that is, the gap between erdogadu and kylych is narrowing somewhere by approximately every 4.5%, somewhere by 1% the result in erdogadu falls e-e if the trend remains the same, then somewhere in around five-45-50% irtugan will already lose will lose well will receive less than 50%. in this case, the second round of elections will be obvious if this does not happen. and this may not happen because there is already information about numerous falsifications of personnel and how the election commission is stamping e-e ballots with erdoğan, then it will be clear that the situation will escalate because all this

information is being studied , all these falsifications, they will be the subject of judicial investigations. promised to leave myrny if he does, but we know that his entourage declares that the victory of the opposition is treason, it's a coup , and at the very least, that is , they are behaving completely inappropriately, so i'm not ruling anything out here , as they say, you have to monitor the situation and keep your fists that is, you mean vasyl now for a second. that is, you mean that even if, well, in both cases, if erdoğan loses, he takes his people out into the street and something bad might happen, or even if kirlych daroglu loses, he will also lose brings out his people and something bad could happen, uh, you understand the problem is that uh

, well, right away, there must be legitimacy. yes, the process, you perfectly understand all elections - it's uh, trust in elections. if this trust is undermined, then

the situation can be ungovernable, and i fully admit that thor supported erdogan in this situation, it is not a fact if, in principle, we are talking about falsifications, that in this situation the people will want the continuation of such power, because after the falsifications, it is unlikely that we can talk about democracy and there will be some right there the question is also how the economy of turkey, which is already not impressive with stability and with inflation and the exchange rate there is also their lira, it can well not survive such political unrest and participation, which is interesting, what can we say when there was such a confrontation between two politicians in the fourth quarter in the 20th year in ukraine

, yanukovych, yushchenko, and i were full of yushchenko's pro-westernism and yanukovych's russianness . but the confrontation between khrydz rog and erdogan is a confrontation between what and what, and is the main thing here ideology, politics or economics the vision of turkey's development in the future, please well, it is clear that this is pulling a ukrainian owl on turkey, where people immediately start comparing what is fresh to us, and here in reality, of course, i would say that ideology plays an important role here, because after all , the kilysch is a small-headed person a secular person, that is, kimalists , they are a-a for western modernization, while erdoğan is such an islamist, let him be such a moderate islamist there or whatever they called themselves conservative democrats well, in fact, it is such a covertness

hidden hmm, the wording of the muslim brothers and uh in well, we see how turkey is developing, reprimands, especially when erdogan has already tried to implement some namish ideas , well, in particular, from the financial system, and by destroying the lira, causing great inflation and the like , and this is the key problem. which violates this balance or such a consensus of the turks to have a good one in power further and if it is already obvious, that is, 50% plus do not want to see rogan, it is unlikely that you can hold on to such schedules, or introduce then terrible

repression well, that's a lot, but then you really have big problems with uh, you have problems with sanctions, and then yes, they are out of options igor, well, and the last question from me will be and tell me, please, are these elections important for ukraine well, if they are important, then how much why eh? well, you see, ukraine does not appear here among the objectives of the task , that is, what the candidates talk about in them. well, in fact, the key issues are that the economy has understood inflation, the exchange rate of the lira will accordingly become the economy. the second issue is the syrian refugees, what to do with them, as well as the third the question is the state of relations with the west, the united states of america, that is, this whole complex of international issues, which are now in a rather deplorable state , what can we say

? so he will continue to maneuver with russia, trying, as it were, to bargain, to get resources, to outwit him somewhere, and somewhere he will be outwitted, well, that is, this kind of visa continues, the byzantine style and the kylisch is expensive. he positions himself in a slightly different way. says that the relations with russia will be transparent and this transparency of relations will be based on the key responsible position of turkey in the western alliance. these are the words. well, plus, i haven’t read them yet. he broke pots with the russians. it’s true. it’s very diplomatic, uh, and this tweet means he ’s addressing his dear russian friends, that

he shouldn’t get into it, he shouldn’t create fakes, but that’s how he could say very diplomatically. to the russians that they will have problems, that's why erdoğan and the end of the road. they have , as it were, the teams, the teams are quite well -versed in international affairs. they know how to work with, including in such conditions of conflicts, the key positions that were m-m achieved by erdoğan, they will remain. no one will cancel them, but a certain transparency and predictability would not hinder us, it is clear, ihor, thank you very much for participating in our program. it was ihor semigolos, director of the center for middle eastern studies, and he

told us about what to expect from the elections which are currently ongoing in turkey. well, to finish this turkish topic, the current president, recep tayyip erdoğan, decided to bribe his voters in a rather original way right at the polling station. on his way out, he congratulated the children on mother's day and congratulated them not only by handing out money, but also by giving them money, surrounded by the raja, and immediately responded to accusations that this could be considered a bribe, they emphasized that children are not participants in the election process, and therefore handing out money to them cannot be considered a bribe, so look at it like some feudalism, you know, at such a time, the only thing that is important is thrown here, and this is what i see and experts, i read interesting people on facebook , and yura and i also talked about this, that now, first of all, votes in the small ones count populated areas, well, rural areas there and so on, but istanbul , izmir, ankara, where he had an advantage, well, at least until the elections, they will be counted later, well, i will only remind you that the population of istanbul is 15 million, so there will be a very significant

number, so here, as they say, we are watching the events but we understand that not everything is like that unequivocally, in general, 64 million people have the right to vote in turkey, so they will vote for something, yes, well, and we move on to our next, well, hot topic, flag day in belarus without alexander lukashenko , the self-proclaimed president of the country did not come to the ceremony today, he found respect for the state flag, coat of arms and anthem this was reported by belarusian journalists, the speech at this event was read by the country's prime minister roman golovchenko, who then also read an address from lukashenka what was the reason for the self-proclaimed absence at the holiday his press service did not inform, however, the day before there was information that lukashenko was coming to the republican clinical medical center in the evening . did he go from there? well, at least i haven't found any information yet. and another interesting detail is that the minister of foreign

affairs is flying to moscow on tuesday belarus serhiy oleynyk well, more about where is lukashenko and what can happen in this situation now in belarus, we will talk with vasyl and valery kalinovsky, a journalist of the belarusian radio svoboda service. mr. valery well, tell me what could be happening, do you have any information that lukashenko got sick, i think no one hides it anymore, and it's true that they don't officially say that he got sick, but it was visible, let's say, two weeks ago how he spoke very hoarsely, and all this was noticed, then his last appearance. here they showed footage of his last public appearance. it was in moscow on may 9, and then in minsk in the evening, and there he was unable to walk a few hundred meters from the kremlin to the place where the flowers were laid, the grave of the unknown soldier i