[000:00:00;00] no, they will confirm something because the borscht is drawing out the borscht is being drawn out for half-past 12, people should have been eating for half an hour already, but you see with us well, unfortunately , 2 minutes are flying by now, and no, wait until they say here, because it could be there. who said i did not give the command, boyko to the zaporizhzhia region, i would like to emphasize once again that today we are baking paska for the first time. of course, the recipe came down to us from our great-grandmothers, because we also grew up in rural families. personally , the most important moment is that we need the necessary

components, a bottle of cognac, but there doctor cherry almond lemon orange vasyl vasyliovych there is no report of the flagged and killed there is a sport and cheremushka well cheremushki i don't know where yes maxim how will you leave please weasel call me if there are wounded or anything else good yes you can go up just be careful weasel yes be careful you can already go up to the dining room, spring, you want beauty, you want warmth, besides

, we have such girls here, all the girls are smiling and everyone . that is, it is a thank you to our girls who work here, these flowers are brought by our residents guys, our men, the house is probably not here for the last time, and there is no way to send the last house. they have already found one wing from an air bomb with 15 hands. she was supposed to come here and was very worried about her house. we once helped to close it. they are now in western ukraine. sometimes she calls me to talk. letters and you can't look at my house there. i saw your house. well, you can fix it there. well, once the guys covered it with a tarpaulin, and the second time they covered it

with a birch tree, apparently everything is fine. and now she will call and what to say to her at home i was going out, i hear about who we are from the fog. that is, this is one, that, and another . and where did he come from, where did they fly from, and the direction was from there? yes, there is already a private sector here.

the depth of me good day good day semeniv for graduation and i have a woman who is 92 years old , so i have to bring her everything home to give back 9 87 years old 83 years old 85 years old we have people like that i left i left the pressure has already fallen into me delekoron pills coronal from myself in this world i stayed

over time , i noticed the pressure was already normal, i offered, but i will never leave my city. что просто i'm like a dependency i and these people there i know them i don't know them but they are mine before the war time she was in opposition to the government that is before me she was at the session as if i was black what did she do and then the first day of the war evacuation not evacuation humanitarian worker what we do everything, she came and became like that and says mykolaivna if i don't interfere with you, i will help you yes if i don't annoy you, because we are now losing the most important thing that we have, we don't see where our grandchildren are growing, this is our school

, a gymnasium that was one of the hundred of the best schools of ukraine, modern, modernized, not completed, not completed, we, and the world, were just doing renovations in the sports hall, what did 800 children do from the cabin, well, now, well, nothing, we will build a new one, we will build a new one, even better, more modern, and our children will return and there will be a children's school here again laughter means my mission is to cook, eat, bring victory closer, i really want it, i think you will never get used to it, well, you are already reacting a little differently because we know how to fly well, of course, we are women, we can

only overcome all this with our beauty, and we just have such a strained smile and here it comes from the inside, the smell of peace is just the smell of peace , the first technological war in the world is impossible without progressive weapons, these are the technologies of victory and the ukrainians create them, there is only one question, how to turn ideas into effectively working weapons with the help of the interaction of the state and business to move in the same direction, we created

brave one, a unified coordination platform that unites the developers of defense technologies, the military and the state, your ideas, appeals, save lives , brevan is able to make them real, peace today, the achievement of defenders and defenders, all this is thanks to you to you each of them , after the start of a full-scale invasion, could leave ukraine and be completely safe , we received an official letter ethnic kazakhs есть ехать даже если граждалы украины вы you can take advantage of the fact that you can leave the country in the dark in a sled thank you for offering and even to me , they didn’t even leave the country at the same time and leave, they chose

to go to the occupied territories to feed the civilians and military and they also helped tens of thousands of ukrainians survive the winter until our holiday there is a holiday of naurus on march 22 and until this time . we are here. well, we served tea, coffee, tea, cookies, everything was free, when this happened, when the light went out, that's when we turned on the generators and people could safely come here to charge their gadgets more about the powerful kazakh volunteer movement that helps ukrainians see in marathon the only news

tomorrow at 11:15 p.m. 100 km from moscow and over moscow, some unknown aircraft have already been spotted several times and such examples have recently become more and more , a separate military profession has emerged in the ukrainian army drone operators in advanced battalions conduct reconnaissance, monitor enemy attacks, look for enemy equipment and eliminate it in a matter of minutes . there are even many videos on the network where, with the help of a drone, our soldiers are persuaded to drop explosives simply into the open hatches of enemy armored vehicles. we are working on drone troops, and in general on modern military technologies, but

we will talk about it as usual with guests in the studio and today this is valentyn batrak, director of the center of army research, conversion and disarmament , and andriy kramarov, military expert, officer of the air force reserve of the armed forces of ukraine. to bring victory, are drones our weapons ? victory well, let's start first. the drone topic is ukrainian, it is quite new . ukraine has never produced unmanned vehicles on its territory, and since 2014 began to rapidly develop this direction, and now it is a country that is also a developer and manufacturer of unmanned equipment, although we receive dozens of different drones from

other countries. in the 14th year, there were 36 companies that produced drones, but after certain tenders, they were narrowed down to six suppliers now, that is, after february 20, the fourth of 22nd, in fact, dozens of companies are working on this and are developing and producing various drones of various functions from the so-called ersatz killers. that is, these are small drones, most often they are private in general or dual-use silver so free yes free toys yes how to which they are mounted in various ammunition and dropped on the enemy's embankments at a distance of one er two or three kilometers we most often see on video yes, there is also a camera we can see other drones - it is already drones that operate at a distance of 10-30 km and barrage munitions are very interesting. i think

that our barrage munitions, our killer drones, are no worse than, say, switch blade 600 , which we receive from the american company aeroinwaldman. if we take it further, then in ukraine , of course, we need a powerful drone program that will allow the entire range of functions to be closed, and this is from e. well, somewhere at the forefront of this industry, because before us, we know that the americans used drones, drones, so well-known global terrorists were eliminated with the help of large american drones, which are capable of spending up to 22 hours somewhere at a height

there are 10,000 km and so on, but ukraine first started using , as you said, civilian toy drones to which explosives were simply attached, or does this mean that we opened some new direction, we did not just open , we opened a new school, the only thing so far is tactical, tactical use, and if we take the operational-tactical direction, and in the future , perhaps we will reach the strategic one , then in my opinion it is simply necessary to develop the military-technical cooperation itself with the american campaigns with the turkish companies with polish companies with those who are ready for such a thing is necessary. moreover, we have our own developments there, in particular, in engines , in the creation of drone guidance systems . ukraine has made great progress. to the point that they worked with drones, because they were primarily made for the modernization of the helicopter, and in principle they

work. ukraine is capable and this is a very powerful leap. helicopter and mi-8 and 24 to make, strictly speaking, a fire support helicopter with its own forces, ukraine was able to make it a complex of missiles , an rk-2v barrier missile, developed by kabeluch, and it is an optic with an electronic guidance system for these missiles. it will not be named who manufactures it, who develops it , but there there are private companies and state-owned ones. this is the development of ukrainians, the development is ukrainian, this is very important , of course. we must thank you that we get various switch blades, for example, or that one, like the ghost, eh, i, eh

, visitors, storm, something, storm, shadow, that's it. racket drive so, one ghost is an american ghost that is currently used at a distance of 30 km and also destroys very confidently. but at the same time, we have our own achievements and our task is only to advance it and eh well, returning to the primary question, can it will be in the ukrainian interval. the fact is that it can be in a complex to do this, it is already a certain imprint on the introduction of hostilities, and if dronov is so significantly developed, then it creates new conditions , new conditions, because when, for example, drones they are hunting for, let's say, such systems, some 300, then these s300 systems are protected against uh, they hide like this in the systems, but if we create such a complex system , then nothing will work in them and we will

destroy them in various ways , absolutely, and andrei say uh as a specialist in uh variation matters let's say so and do you think uh modern vinindron so more well let's say so i would say rationally simple statistics show that even when uh the enemy attacks us with such hostile missiles especially recently ukrainian the anti-aircraft defense is completely destroyed. well, if not 100%, then it is a very large percentage and like rockets - this is a problem, but with it ours, if it is launched by the shaheds, we see simple statistics of such a large number of shooting down statistics . well, because the shahet flies low, it is less visible there on radars and so on, there are low-tech and military keys , is it determined that drones in the modern world are more effective, more rational because they cost less than missiles, well, it’s obvious

, look, in fact, missiles and drones are different by the nomenclature of weapons, they are used for different tasks and tasks. of course, one cannot replace the other, but they can be used together very effectively , but in the pentagon report for 2022, in particular , it was noted that it is true that they consider it expedient to abandon some types of e-e, in particular, missile weapons because they can be replaced by drones, but not completely . i would also like to add to the entire nomenclature of missile weapons that since 2014 , the ukrainian army has been made up of volunteers. it is clear that the russians have at the moment, there were already developments. by the way, there were developments that, unfortunately, they were just, well , there was such a period in our history that they were able to steal from ukraine, in particular, their reconnaissance unmanned aerial complex orlan ugu and part of the communication system in which, by the way, was developed in

ukraine in kharkiv, it is quite protected, it is very difficult to interfere with it from the outside, and their reconnaissance uavs of the zala type, which were developed in russia, they are also now actively using them in combination with their typical lancet and zala ammunition performs the function of looking and you are in the reconnaissance of targets and then already helps. although it helps him. let's say that, in particular , there is no such thing as a laser guidance system in it, but with visual means. of course, they can guide it and adjust it. it cannot be completely replaced by missile weapons and weapons from drones, but in particular the report of the pentagon for 2022 was now defining the technical task for the development of their multi-purpose fighters, that is, the next generation , and it defined such

a pyramid of the relationship of the capabilities of the target instructions for ground systems for aviation, for example, even a drone of an operational-tactical level if it uses modern technologies, in particular, laser -targeting instructions can be provided by fighters, as it will be , it will be small, as we say, a wedding drone , but a fighter that will be located 100 km away, it can provide an accurate whole indication and it will work absolutely exactly on target and for this it will not be necessary to use any large unmanned aerial systems in parallel such as the american mu9-ripper, this can be done by a large, for example e.e. a reconnaissance platoon that has with it an operational-tactical drone, while, of course, not having with it, for example, means that can be used to destroy a certain stronghold , a command post, an ammunition depot, however, they will determine it, they can provide an exact indication to highlight in real time and for example if there is a missile system that is combined with this system, a whole indication of

well, on an airplane, on a drone, a can be applied . accordingly, we are securing a very expensive airplane for a pilot who needs to be trained and trained for more than one year, and we reduce the risk of that that our very expensive missile that is on the plane will be used irrationally, at the same time, we do all this using technology that is simply several times cheaper, plus, at the same time, we do not need uh, for example , again, our personnel who work in this area almost it is necessary, it can be worked out from a distance of 5-10 km, which will be the maximum. it is enough. and we know that the best examples of modern drones generally work at distances of tens of thousands of kilometers. it depends on that, but there is a concept the bottom is, after all, the concept of an unmanned aerial vehicle, so that a drone that, for example, works by technology like a quadcopter, well, it cannot have

an extremely large operational distance, but it is small and, accordingly, it is not very noticeable if, for example, by the way, there are a number of good developments in ukraine regarding means of radio-electronic warfare, if such a drone is installed, install a system that will be able to overcome the rap of the enemy with which it covers its active object, it can launch it there and again, so accurately force, besides, when we say drones, we mean not only aircraft, the fact is that, for example, an attack on a polish bay by unknown drones, and the question arises. in general, if we talk about the ukrainian drone industry, and i think that it is already possible to talk about it in this order , the ukrainian drone industry, and hmm. how successful are we in air development, marine

, for example, marine drones, this is our development in us they are in ukraine there are naval developments and the most powerful of them involves the movement of a marine drone at a distance of 1,200 km and it will already have and has 500 kg of combat parts 500 kg - this is more than a torpedo , an ordinary curtain. the development, moreover, we have the work done and they have already been confirmed on the battlefield of earthly drones. i would say that it is not only the guys who started with what does the back of the subsoil look like? well, it would be for everyone to understand how it can look like a small base on let's say on what was the shape of the track base, it might look like a tracked base, some kind of platform on this platform. there may be different things, and the rybovsk fishing complex. or maybe it is ideal, these are

anti-tank guided missiles, which were similar. the russians stood out. in syria, russian developments, of course. don't underestimate it, but the uranium that they used in syria didn't confirm its characteristics, there were too many flaws, and that's what russia is trying to do now. well, they learn very quickly, but it's almost simultaneously being developed, it's actually if you say so, then it is actually an anti-tank mine that will move by itself and move by remote control like a car and approach some armored vehicle and so on , but the ukrainian version is generally what we have now come to together, we have come to what a

- and the mass use of cheap technologies is what the wunderwaffe is. because here it’s not just that we can’t afford to produce a bunch of missiles, you can’t produce the materials. if we compare, let’s say the american ones, who did the pentagon order from this company that i mentioned , the american aerobaymond for 1,000 drones switch blade for 2.2 million dollars, yes, and one missile , such as the shade storm in the british one, costs 850 thousand dollars. well, euros, but actually a million dollars, yes, that is, for 1000 drones, you can order two missiles absolutely, but with two missiles, can you perform the tasks that 1000 drones have completed but a missile is one chance because there is air defense and the second one cannot be a cloud of drones eh, i don’t know the mosquito army or what it’s called, attention was paid to it for the first time in the 19th year when eh and a very interesting

story when eh paramilitary structures were attacked by ten killer drones e oil refinery in saudi arabia e-e it was in september of the 19th year, they achieved the result, that is, what is it about, well, it doesn’t matter what it is, and how it looked, it doesn’t work, tactical weapons achieve a strategic result, that’s what, what are the nuances, and i want to emphasize then already in saudi arabia in the 19th year there were already patriot systems so they were only imported in the 18th year the contract was there but they were already there they could not use the patriot to destroy others for missiles they used a for drones, but the price of a drone there is $10,000. let it be so and the petriv 104 missile, the cost of which is more than three million dollars. first of all, and secondly, we understand that the economic component of war is just as important. look at the dispersion coefficient from this drone

, it will be such that if the patriot system of the paktra modification, which is already in service with the armed forces of ukraine, and even if it can see it with the help of its very modern radar with an active milled grating, this does not mean that it will be able to single it out as a target, that is, capture it as a target and accordingly, to work on it, and even out of 10 drones, they work on missiles for 3 million each, one of which was specially allocated in order to introduce an anti-aircraft missile, the other nine achieve the goal, although also to add about the developments in the already armed forces of ukraine, it is very interesting that the development is used by unmanned aerial vehicles ground drones as evacuation vehicles that allow us to evacuate, in particular , our wounded from the line of fire, which is essentially a remote-controlled armored capsule that allows us to secure the wounded himself and

there is already a lot of medicine with it, and we can take it, it’s a great chassis and , for example, install a ukrainian combat module on it, which was developed for the same ukrainian batteries, 3 there is 1 btr-4, which cannot be reduced when setting a certain technical task, for example in terms of weight, it is also completely remotely controlled in our already modern peters, and up to 4 stugna-type anti-tank guided missiles and a pool can be installed on it. well, in fact , it is a small development with a nominal cost. well, up to $ 150,000 can go to the battlefield and for example, to destroy, well, to destroy several armored vehicles, even to be effective, of course, plus it is absolutely much smaller, hardly noticeable, and it is controlled remotely, accordingly, again, well, losing equipment is not as difficult as losing the same operators

of this equipment. and the ukrainian army is unlike our enemy is protected by his soldier and, accordingly, the executor, at the cost of the loss of this one machine, can achieve extraordinary success because, well, some kind of mechanized connection in the form of, for example, the same mechanized company can be completely taken out of combat condition on this front line. well, gentlemen, what you are saying right now sounds like it to me. of course, i am not an expert, but to me it sounds like a miracle like a miracle. well, it simply means that ukraine has potential, we have what we lack so far and how big are the chances of that that after our victory, we will come out of this war not only with a victory , but also with one, possibly several companies. which would produce drones, these chassis, land drones, air drones, sea drones, do we

have all the conditions for this? i am the decision now i will not talk about the criticism of those years because now it is not advisable to do it during the war, we will wait when when everything is over and then it will be time to fly, then we will do it, but if we take the situation now, i really like the team of the ministry of digital transformation , which took several steps, well, the first the step they took was to increase the profit level of drone manufacturers to 25%, previously it was somewhere around five to seven percent , depending on which drones were produced, and by the way, both for ground and for sea ​​and for air, and this is , in my opinion, a very great motivational push, second moment, they created such a technocluster, a platform, breivan, which may over time even, i even think that it can