[000:00:00;00] that mykolaiv oblast will need help with drinking water in the summer because we have technical water and there are no changes so far , the only change is that we will say our 12 enterprises , 12 infrastructure objects that were affected by the e-e of the russian federation, including in our water supply, uh, about 216 million, if i'm not mistaken, uh, they want to allocate from the state fund of the ministry of the ministry of regional reconstruction, and uh , how much it will be . the project for the document heard you ms. viktoriya viktoriya moskalenko, a deputy of the mykolayiv regional council, was with us on this , we are finishing our first denameraton, in the next hour we will talk about what is happening in occupied mariupol

, petro andryushchenko will be in touch with us, and we are also waiting for the direct inclusion of our defender from the front line, stay with us further andrii yanitskyi economic news and then we will be back andrii i congratulate you, you have a word congratulations thank you colleagues as always we start the economic week with our expert serhii fursa and we will talk about the results of the turkish elections, how they will affect the ukrainian economy andriy yanitskyi with economic news on the espresso tv channel, as always with you on weekdays at eight in the morning live, we work in the evening, the repeat of the program at 11 o'clock usually happens, but you can watch this program at any time on the internet on, for example, youtube channel espresso if you do it now you can leave your comment like it send the link to your friends and family

publish it on your social networks like us more people will see it, by the way, i always go after the broadcast and look at your comments if there are questions on the topic of the program that i can answer. i like to do it. historic elections are taking place in turkey. the probability of a second round is increasing every minute . more than 98% of the votes have already been counted and reported. turkish media or not the president and erdoğan currently receives 49 34 percent of the votes and his opponent kemal kilicdar oglu 45%. to be elected in the first round, a candidate must score more than 50%, otherwise it is already 26 in may, the second round will take place, where the two leaders will emerge, the actual turkish elections and their consequences, their impact on the ukrainian economy, will be the central topic

of our conversation today with expert serhii fursa. that both candidates and the only candidate from the opposition and the current president of turkey, they get less than 50% of the vote, if nothing changes, another 2% must be counted, then the second round of elections will be on may 26 and for us it is still some period of uncertainty, let's take a closer look at how tight and strong the economic cooperation between turkey and ukraine was under the current president. and what can change if the opposition wins after all , yes, there will be elections on may 28 , because after all, i'm sorry, i don't think there will be a significant impact. on the ukrainian economy, because the cooperation was of such a kind that it does not

depend on the last name of the politicians, theoretically , problems are possible. politics goes, his relatives also run, but in principle there will be no other influence, it is simply necessary to understand that now the external influence of any economies on the economy of ukraine is minimal simply because there is a war and all these stories are limited, however, precisely after the elections, the turkish economy itself is rather very difficult times await everyone, because in the last months, maybe even a year , erdogan lived in such a paradigm, and we would have to last a day, we would have a night, because his economic policy, which was very bad, very destructive, and it led to crazy of economic problems in turkey, inflation is rampant, and they have been keeping the exchange rate of the artificial

lira with all their might for the last year, the central bank did it with all the justified falsehoods, and you can’t do it indefinitely, because whoever won after the elections, when they exhale and decide that well, all the elections have passed one way or another by the way, a very strong devaluation of the lira is expected. well, in principle, again , since this is already a very long process, the process of long inflation is constantly devaluation of the lira, then turkey can theoretically become the first chain of some big country. well, i would i mentioned the grain corridor, which is impossible without turkey, and how long it is taking place can somehow deter russia from its constant attempts to interrupt that grain corridor, and so we can export our grain. but will the leader of the opposition, if he becomes the president of turkey, be able to support the grain corridor? i have a question about this flow of ukrainian exports because

, as far as i understand , it does not have very good relations with russia. is much stronger in the black sea than the russian fleet, and this is the main influencing factor, we remember this at the end of last year in november, it seems when the russian fleet, but we are leaving, and the turks said that we are not leaving , so we will continue, yes, and everything continued. therefore, there really is moments yes for us it is very important the truth and the real erdogan can be taken as an aggressive alpha male whom putin can fear from whom he can expect aggressive steps theoretically he can test the new president if there will be a new president if there is a new president continuation once again, there are 60 days of the corridor and so on. but again, the turkish army is nowhere to be found , by the way, it is also a member of nato and as it was a member

of nato and there will be a new president, he is uh, if there is a new president and he is more pro-european, more pro-western, and it would be much more interesting for us. well, i saw on the news that in fact russia attracted the same thing that it did with yanukovych , uh, well, yanukovych was lent money, and uh, redugan was allowed not to pay on time enemies so that there are no large payments before the elections through the position of the leaders of kemal kilijdaroglu, it is necessary to finally study this last name, he, he made a loud statement that russia is interfering in the turkish elections, was this decision a russian market decision ? political well, in principle, western countries also very often allow us to do some postponement of loans to the extent that it can be considered an intervention

, well, the economic situation is the creditors went to a meeting, well, again, in the western country no, they never allowed from the deadline to payments we have restructured once in the last 20 years, our payments on euro sheets are private creditors and this was done through negotiations with private creators. by the way, this position leader whose last name i still haven't learned to pronounce , he made statements about russian interference in the elections not because of money, but because of active attacks that russia used again by the botift method aggressively, you saw his own aggressive propaganda on facebook, and that is why he made such a statement. yes, yes, i agree, well, it was one of the elements the economy is also important, let's leave the topic of turkey until may 28, as you rightly noted, and we will return to

it later , we will talk about other topics, in particular, well, again, on external economic issues. it is about an amount of several tens of millions of dollars, which in reality does not look like a large amount. we understand that the russian oligarchs from foreign banks, and in particular from the united states, have much larger amounts and assets are stored why is this process going so slowly, why? this is just a symbolic step, we wanted to have billions of dollars from them, we really want it. i myself would like someone there to give me a couple of billions of dollars. see well , first of all, this is important as a precedent in the united states, the precedent is wrong and where do you need to start malefiev is just the perfect candidate to start with because he is very involved, he is so uh, do you remember president

poroshenko once called navinsky a uh right uh very orthodox oligarch malafeev is very orthodox, the oligarchs are also very pro-putin, and the oligarch actively participated in the attacks on ukraine in the 14th year . well, we can already see how events developed, well, in some ways, he was right, i was wrong about the amount of 5 and 4 million dollars . well, not even by a few dozen, not even a few dozen. yes, konstantin malafeev, owner of the tv channel tsargrad tv . where did it come from? million but again, these are the first steps. it is important to us, it does not matter what the amount is, that this created precedent is now becoming more likely to transfer more money to russian oligarchs, individuals or legal

entities, in this case we are not talking about sovereign debt, this is very important to remember there is a much more complicated story, but the money of the oligarchs is now the eyes of pandora's box for access to the money of the russian oligarchs, which is frozen there, and it is very important for us. but again, yes, it's not about billions billions billions we expect from chelsea when abramovich sold chelsea he promised to transfer the money to ukraine and there somewhere 3 billion dollars are frozen and they must come to ukraine, but not to the state budget, but there some humanitarian programs must be determined and so something will be there further, some assets will be frozen and will go like pennies and pennies . first of all, it is nice that the russians will take it, secondly, they will give us this money, just unlike abramovich's money, they will go to the ukrainian budget, they

will not interfere there. well, everything is relative, i imagine as our viewers are now watching and saying what he is talking about, $5 million. well, what is it? is it a small amount? yes, it is not a small amount. we just know that they have more. well, if someone suddenly thought that it is possible that such a russian was caught there, what i am not guilty of anything. i will remind you that the us authorities accused malofeev, the owner of the orthodox tv channel , this is me, of tv financing of the separatists in the crimea and actually of the malafis. e financed the former fsbshnik, so there is something to blame him for, let's return to ukrainian affairs, the parimatch company is such an online casino, online sports betting, e-e , it was announced that it left ukraine after sanctions were violated against it, and e-e,

we know that the sanctions are for tax evasion, they were not introduced for some separatist activity, they are not connected with the russians, eh, it might not have been worth it, just like that, it might have been worth simply fining the company there, imposing some financial obligations on it, and not do the conditions for the work of this company in ukraine are intolerable because, well, in my opinion, it was the largest company in this sector and they invested their money not only in this business , which is definitely not useful for society , but also in the development of sports and in their public statements they said that they were trying to fight gambling and they created a fund that invested in it technologies . well, it was as if they were working on their image , trying to look like a serious

company, not just a gambling business . what is your conclusion from this story? you mmm, do you think that everything is working properly, our regulatory bodies, well, look at the packs of cigarettes, they also write that the roots kill, uh , regarding how the sanctions were issued. well , the only thing that can worry here is that the introduction is against someone, and not introduced against someone, this is probably a painful question and question why, yes, why is there parimatch? yes, for example , you have a problem, right? yes, you probably already like this method of solving the problem . and those schemes that you do not they used them they were published they were very creative but they also destabilized the currency market there and it was a violation at least come on yes it was very

wrong not beautiful i think it was a violation of the law maybe i will be wrong but these schemes were an ugly thing and in principle arises the issue of the gaming business is always a very profitable story, why not avoid tax breaks and there may arise . the second question is that the very structure of taxation of the ukrainian gaming business is problematic and it is necessary that i, again, i i'm not a specialist in the whirlwind industry in ukraine, especially, but i heard that there is so-called double taxation, which forces these companies to use schemes and not pay taxes honestly, because the gaming industry is always big profits, huge profits, and for me there was always a question: why don't they pay taxes and they don't live normally for themselves, uh, like people and apparently there is well, first of all , human greed on the one hand, and on the other hand, those problems with taxation that make

the business itself uninteresting for them if they will to pay taxes honestly, and this is definitely a problem for me, where it is necessary to hold a round table meeting of some kind of commission and determine what, if it is not public, it is better to do it . they pay taxes by helping to avoid them and maybe something needs to be changed so that they like working in the light more, we really will continue to work actively in the dark, this whole industry is not very good, again, a healthy story because it is legalized but it should be legal to work legally, it should be better well, in order to make it more clear to the audience how big this company was, uh, according to the size, only employees there were 1,100 employees, all of them were laid off , now 1,100 are unemployed, the company says that in

two years it paid more than 850 million uah in taxes, at the same time, the detectives of the bureau of economic security believe that m.m.'s company evaded paying taxes for almost this amount, not even more than uah 1 billion, well, let's see how events will develop further, because the company, although all dismissed her, but the company's lawyers continue to fight for her hm pure dignity in court. but she does not hope to resume her activities, we will monitor this because the company is large and we , as an economic program, cannot avoid talking about the bookmaker business uh, um, because it is also part of the ukrainian the economy is money. people work there. well, many people work there. let's talk about preferential loans. here is a statement that heat power plants and heat power plants, which, well, at first

glance, do not look like business for us. for ordinary citizens, this is some kind of service, and primarily communal utility service, but it turns out that now they can also take in the program of soft loans 5 7 9, which from the very beginning were created to support ukrainian small businesses and receive this soft money for the conversion of thermal power plants and thermal power plants by serhiy nu and well, this is the last topic of our conversation will be how smart is this ideology of the 579 loan program to be expanded to the extent that the applicant and the tess could receive this money or should they be helped in some other way because it seems to me that this focus on ukrainian small business is being lost. well, there was not only a small business, but also a medium one. but none the less, well, chp and chp. well

, is it a business, well, first of all, it is a business, it must be a business, or if it is not a business, why does anyone work there at all? regarding the focus. well, it seems to me that a bank and a small business are not very suitable for each other, because mostly small business works in such a way that banks cannot use it. in principle, i do not really believe all these preferential credit programs therefore that banks now lend not because they don't lend, not because they don't have money or because there are some rates, you know, banks don't lend because they don't trust the one to whom they can give money, this is the biggest problem in ukraine, this is again based on the absence of the rule of law, because it is very easy not to return loans to the bank, and that is why they are now very cautious in lending, there is a lot of criticism, but sometimes this criticism is very interesting , because businesses come out and actively criticize banks that it is impossible to take loans in these banks, if you look at the history of that businessman, it turns out that

they don't return loans by banks for 100-200 and so on millions and regretting that they don't give them what they stole, and the unfair competition is simply from the point of view of an ordinary ukrainian who wants to go to the bank to take loans and see the rates well, it may be written there and 001, but in small font you can read that the effective rate is actually 30%, and here the loan is 5 7 9%, so i think that many ukrainians are now jealous of those aunts and uncles and who are now in this preferential program well in fact, there are also many soft loans for individuals, serhiy thank you for the conversation, we will watch the turkish elections, we will watch what the events are called next, serhii fursai, investment banker , representative of the dragon capital investment group, was with us in moscow, like on mondays, on the air. i am andriy yanitskyi host of the economic program on the espresso

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operational brigade of the national guard of ukraine and the 80th separate amphibious assault brigade, we are talking now about the hottest direction of bakhmut, where fierce battles are being fought, the task is difficult and painful, but our defenders are sure that our enemy will definitely lose , he will definitely lose. he is not without our help. we we have to help our defenders mavik is the eyes of military intelligence, these drones qualitatively help to conduct both reconnaissance and adjust targets for artillery fire, the better for the armed forces and worse for the enemy , you see the card number on the screens, you also see the qr-code , let's prove to our defenders that we are interested in so that there would be fewer enemies, that we are interested in these defenders returning home to their families as soon as possible, all intact, our goal - 500,000 uah, we have already

collected 134,000,492 uah from your help that there are less than a fourth, four parts of this amount left, we can do it easily by the end of the week, i think we will announce that the collection is closed , but for this we need a little bit, a little bit under pressed, we have already collected four, we just need three more, we will collect and everything can be launched to the sky and, so to speak, to scout out where there are clusters of muskrats and to smoke them, or to make it so that when i was not a russian mobilized person, i stood in a trench and saw that now something might come down on him from above, folded my hands as if to god and asked us captive i'm telling you, it's not going well, you know what i've read in kazan since last week, there seems to be some russian war hero or

blogger who was so happy there, saying that nobody wanted such a big war there. we thought that we were there right away. why was it necessary now? here is such a slipper. and you just wonder. well, what is on people's minds? we wanted to fight . you came here to our territories . you bombed all our cities from the first day. you killed people in civilian clothes. you voted for women. they stole everything in a row, they looted, it is called that we wanted to fight, but we simply had nothing to do, as we really wanted to fight with the muscovites , maybe in mariupol we wanted to fight with the muscovites , who just destroyed that mariupol, petro andryushchenko, who was promised, the adviser to the mayor of mariupol, in touch with us, mr. petre good morning to you good morning glory to ukraine glory to the heroes mr. peter, you reported the news

literally literally 27 minutes ago that a series of explosions occurred in the temporarily occupied city of tokmak in the zaporizhia region suddenly you write about zaporizhzhia region, did some mariupol get involved or something? well, you know why, it’s very simple, actually, because it’s been a long time, a little bit built, let’s say such a partnership network between everyone from zaporizhzhia region, and what’s closest to mariupol , mariupol district, mariupol, all of us with an information field between 70 or another eh, well, in one way or another, because after all, this is a complex eh observation, because we have to understand where the equipment is going, for example, yes, if it went to berdyansk, or in the direction of

the direction of childbirth is the same, if something moves from there, we are informed that they are going to see what is there and where it will move next, that is, it is such a normal priazov escort, yes, in general , that is why we see what is happening to each other , understanding that now it very quickly affects some events well, for example, what is happening now in tokmak in zatochno today closer to the evening. we will see in mariupol, in the sense that there will be cotton, at least i really wanted to. convoys of all kinds of collaborators will flee to russia, that is, all of this is connected, events are happening now , that's why we followed what happened to each other and kept in touch as far as possible, what is happening in mariupol today, how are the occupiers behaving, if the brothers of mariupol continue to strengthen

they continue to dig in and install certain protective structures. let's say this. near every bridge along the kalchyk river, this is the main thing that they have set up to date. concrete shelters with machine guns or there with small guns a-a trenches and very well camouflaged therefore well, for example, if you do not know that it is there, you do not see that it was not built so easily, you can even see it from the side. therefore, this is the main thing that the occupiers are doing today everything else is in this state. it has frozen a little, yes, everyone is waiting for our offensive, and with the goal of understanding what will happen in the future, including with the military reserves that they hold, so far they are more or less in place, there are certain changes of a small size when they transfer some units to the front line there, mostly there in the direction of lidavsk or to the north of the donetsk region, and approximately

the same number enters, it can enter because there is more salon, but there is a general crowd, it is clear that the russians do not know where to move these chips they don't understand where we will advance from, so they keep the mariupol district just in case, because we always say that it is very convenient from the mariupol district to transfer us there a large section of the front from ugledaru by the same token, for example, yes, this is less than daylight. meanwhile, in mariupol , a fresh sector of burials actually appeared in the cemetery. i saw the video, it's just a ditch dug, and well, it would seem that way . now, the russians are not bombing mariupol because they think it's him. why are there more burials there? well, it’s even in