[000:00:00;00] and i can't help but confirm and deny that some of our security forces made an effort there, some of our special forces are units , but still, if in fact, when something flies into luhansk and explodes, some kind of... is a base with oil products for the russian occupation forces or with ammunition or with equipment or with personnel well, we can understand who is behind it, but when we talk about such incidents and then there are also internal factors because a cornet is still after all, he is not just a war criminal a criminal in general. and this person is connected to the criminal world, and especially in the temporarily occupied territories. and he has a huge

group of criminal members since 2014. i do not rule out when the atmosphere is so tense right now in the temporarily occupied territories, everyone in expectations, again , a counter-offensive, and some internal confrontations may occur. yes, catalysis is precisely in all internal moments, therefore i do not exclude even an internal factor, the catalysis of these moments is considered that the cornet actually led all the security forces in the so-called dpr, there was no ministry of defense and actually these functions were performed by the so-called ministry of internal affairs. and how can this affect the internal situation in the occupied luhansk region, how do they treat militants among themselves, the general situation is like this, they have the first and second army corps there, the first e these are exactly the corps from the so-called lpr and dpr that are used precisely in the combat zone by the russians, like wagner. well, also like live meat. that is, they are covered by exactly those white

spots. can close others and uh, they were actually not all satisfied in this unit , how is it that they are commanded by the russian generals, even when they sent russian so-called chimobiks uh, to the combat zone on the front line, then it was the representatives of the already so-called lpr and dpr, they they were not sent to the first line under, i will even say yes, even with their own barricades, and very often these chmobics complained that they were immediately sent to hell itself, and therefore e. is reluctance to carry out orders regarding participation in hostilities, and one thing everyone understands, in the majority , they send it exactly like live meat or to

a meat grinder. and the second thing is that internally all these structures are criminal clans, and criminal groups, therefore, between them and there is still such an internal consultation, because they understand that if this war is lost , they will have to flee to russia, and again , who will provide such an opportunity if they are given the task of standing to the last drop of blood, that is, it is very difficult there, now tense the situation in all parameters. well, i want to ask about bakhmut. today we heard statements from the commander of the ground forces, alexander of syria. he said that the actual advance of ukrainian troops is the first of its kind in the bakhmut direction. this is the first success of offensive actions during the operation , at the same time, the ministry of defense says that russian army assault brigades , taking into account these preliminary forecasts of the institute for the study of war and about the refusal of the russian army to allegedly take the city to shine, what

tactics can the invaders resort to, what do you do you think about this for a minute, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, in the near future, they will start regrouping and try to open the territories that we returned under our control, but it depends on how the armed forces of ukraine will act, because right now there is an opportunity to take the initiative on your side, to attract it to your side, and after such a short pause in the pressure, it is already on the positions of the russian occupiers to continue advancing due to systematic counterattacks oleksandr, thank you very much for joining the broadcast, oleksandr kovalenko military-political columnist information resistance group thanks the so-called coalition of fighter jets spoke to the prime minister of great britain rishi sunok and the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi at a meeting at his chekas residence

well, i will add that the visit to london takes place immediately after zelenskyi's trip to paris, where he met with macron. well , the ukrainian president went to paris right away after sunday's visit to germany, the british government, after a conversation with zelenskyi, also quoted the prime minister assuring that his country will continue to provide the ukrainian people with the support they need to defend against russian aggression. range , london also promised to strengthen the country's air defense against only the provision of aircraft is also the training of pilots and all the logistics that go along with this, we are ready to implement these plans in

a relatively timely manner, we will train the citizens of ukraine so that they become absolutely combat-capable aircraft pilots, especially in matters of nato tactics pin european correspondent of the ukrainian service with the voice of america from london joins to our broadcast, mr. bohdan, my greetings, greetings , can we talk about the results of the visit to great britain, because we have official statements , announcements about the coalition of fighter jets, and what could remain outside the brackets of these announcements because, for example, wibsi already wrote that great britain will provide ukraine with hundreds of long-range missiles. what do you know about this? well, it is known that this was officially announced by the british government before the bbc, er, it was from the office of the british prime minister

on remote 310 this morning it was reported that great britain will provide, as it says, hundreds of missiles for air defense and attack drones without aerial drones and aerial vehicles, as it says. that is, this is an official message from the government, er, i think that er, we can already say what ah britain is trying to continue this its theme of providing more long-range longer-range weapons for ukraine after the storm shadow cruise missiles uh-uh now the british are emphasizing these uh-uh unmanned drones which also uh-uh if we look at other sources have a radius or capability of action of more than 200 km, this is about as much as ukraine needs to reach russian positions, e. practically on most of the occupied occupied territories. so this is a serious step regarding other

questions well, i paid attention to how carefully the british prime minister spoke about airplanes, if you listened to a little longer quote from his story about what he said, then there is the british prime minister very clearly emphasizes that this is, as he said, first of all, a difficult matter, as well as separately, the british prime minister emphasized that ukraine is now talking most about the provision of f-16 fighter planes - these are american- made planes, and the british military air force such planes are not used the british are mainly equipped with eurofighter planes, and this is a slightly different model, the technical data of the aircraft is slightly different, so when it comes to the so-called coalition of fighters, the british

prime minister of russia, sumakh , made it very clear today that this is currently happening at the level at the level of discussions and the beginning of pilot training, as he emphasized the training of pilots in general, not specifically on f-16 aircraft, but general training with separate training of ukrainian pilots and nato air tactics for refraction, what to say about the meeting between the sums, zelenskyi seemed very warm, it was photographed by a lot of media, in fact, many people note that diplomatic and political relations have long since turned into such friendly relations, and how important it is for british politics itself and for the inhabitants of the kingdom. does it matter well, you know, this is important for any country that actually allocates billions to help another

country that risks its security situation to a large extent by getting involved specifically on the side on the side of ukraine in in this situation, this is very, very serious, that is, britain is a democratic state where politicians must constantly explain and justify their steps to the voters and to the british, and on the one hand, the british leaders must be explained that such large-scale military and not only military economic aid to ukraine is really first of all, it is necessary. and secondly, it seems to me that the human human element is also very important, and the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyy, is the one who said that this is very important for him . this personal contact is very important.

said that he would like to visit as many countries as possible and it is obvious that there are things that can be resolved, they can be discussed in a phone call or with the help of a video link, somehow we are with you, but for such large-scale things , worldview things, things that are about people's lives, the security of countries are historical question i still think that you can agree with the statements of politicians that personal contact and personal conversations are very, very important and decisions sumakh said today that they discussed important issues with zelensky privately one on one, as was said here thank you for joining the broadcast bohdan tsyupan, the european correspondent of the ukrainian voice of america service from london , was in direct contact with us, thank you, he will remain in custody

. the kyiv court of appeal rejected the request of the lawyers of ex-intelligence officer roman chervinsky to change the preventive measure against him, in chernihiv they were informed of the suspicion in the case of the russians shelling the cable car airfield and at the end of april the court took him as a preventive measure in the form of arrest without the right to bail more about the criminal proceedings and about roman chervinsky himself, see in the material of roksolana, beat yourself up, change the appeal complaint , which is the defender of the course of the interests of the suspect chervinsky, discontent for two months in custody without the right to post bail, such a preventive measure will remain with the military intelligence officer roman chervinsky , during a closed session, the kyiv court of appeals rejected the appeal of the lawyers to change the restriction our next step is to submit again a petition to change his preventive measure , his suspicion is not justified, in fact, all the arguments

executed on suspicion not on the basis of this evidence, i made up the prosecutor did not want to communicate with the press after the court decision, and the preventive measure, which the lawyers tried to appeal , the court praised as early as april 23. roman chervinsky faces from 8 to 12 years behind bars. about the attempted hijacking of a russian plane, which, according to the investigation, led to the shelling of the kanatov airfield in the kirovohrad region, from the beginning of the full-scale invasion, chervinsky held a senior position in one of the military of the special operations forces of the ukrainian armed forces in the summer of last year, according to journalists, officer chervinsky tried to carry out a special operation. ukrainian pravda was the first to tell about it. he and an amateur pilot named oleksiy allegedly offered money to russian pilots, and they , in return, had to move the plane from russia to one of the ukrainian lithuanian states. claim that the russian pilot roman nosenko agreed to such a proposal, according to the plan of july 23, 2022, he had children from russia to

the kanatovo airfield in the kirovohrad region to leave the plane and then flee to europe with new documents on the day when they were supposed to make the flight, russia fired 9 cruise missiles at lithuania, then the commander of the military unit was killed and 17 servicemen were wounded, two fighter jets were also destroyed and the airstrip was damaged, the head of the security service indicates an interview interfax-ukraine that chervinsky did not receive permission from the sbu to carry out a special operation , at the same time, the suspect himself denies it. he says that his arrest is revenge of the authorities for the cover-up in previous years, according to chervinsky in relation to the start of a full-scale invasion, he was involved in two well-known special operations carried out by ukrainian security forces against the russian military, one of them during which ukrainian special services successfully and inconspicuously removed from the dpr volodymyr tsemakh, an important

figure in the case of the boeing mh17 crash, the second was the so-called wagnergate sbu and the group then tried to detain 28 militants of the russian private company wagner, however, at the last moment before the departure of the wagnerites , were arrested in belarus and later extradited to russia roksolana bychay nikita isaiko radio svoboda roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine from the voice faction, secretary of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, joins the broadcast of romana. my greetings. good day. in your opinion, how realistic is the suspicion of chervinsky? i remind you that the sbu claims that he himself organized and implemented a special operation to hijack a plane is it at all possible to implement such a special operation on your own without coordinating with other special services, it is very difficult for this, you must clearly have the resources, authority and access to

other special services that have their own capabilities, it is quite difficult to do it yourself , and therefore you know a lot of questions in this case , especially the first question is that a combat officer who actually performed combat tasks was locked up behind bars for two months and accused in the fact that he exceeded his powers there, a person who in fact fulfilled his powers and there is not what is written in the justification, of course . you can ask questions to each sentence and i would like to get answers to them, what was said today that general hanushchak came to the court, he is a very respectable person. we clashed with the fact that during the war on the implementation of measures in the anti-terrorist operation, e.e., before a full-scale invasion, this is a combatant and he constantly respects all of us. he came to give evidence. i said that he gave direct orders about what

to chernivtsi to carry out this operation that there was an agreement with everyone at the general staff, but the court did not even want to reassure him that they were very careful, but in this situation they tried to talk with current and former employees of the special services, i do not want to are commenting on the details of the case. and how carefully, according to your observation, intelligence officers and employees of the special service monitor what is happening in the case of chervinsky . well, of course, very few people are involved in the case materials, and we can see here by indirect signs that the case has, let's say, so many questions what can i say, ask any sbu officer only that it is being conducted by a junior lieutenant and that the case is particularly important and a lot of evidence needs to be gathered here, and in particular what is being incriminated there by chervinsky the fact is that it was precisely because of what he did that an attack was carried out, for example, on the airfield. well, at least our special services should

have found out from the russians that it was they who struck because chervinsky paid them for this information, because if you take it seriously and take this accusation, then yes, they have to find out from the russians what exactly with chernihiv said hit this airfield, but it must be said that it is impossible, we understand. as if none of the more serious and experienced investigators volunteered for this whole case because they understand that she has a lot of questions . the chilean himself says that the matter is political, that he said it was revenge for the operation of the energy industry, which he spoke about publicly, then

he accused the president's office of the disruption . which need to be sorted out, but what was closed, i will say that he is unequivocally chervynsky, not an enemy and not a traitor, but a person who, by his service, has already proven many times that he serves you, he conducted many operations while he was in the security service and then above and we see that in the end they end up on the dock. i also use my channels. we communicate with those intelligence officers we know there , because hmm, many people say that they knew the operation was agreed to in one way or another, or they also knew about it and it was not. one's business chervinsky, well, i say once again, it is impossible to do it, mr. roman, and even if it is revenge, how does chervinsky miss it? why do it publicly, then the office of the president and actually turn a part of the secret service employees against him?

what could be the motivation in this? he doesn't think about it and just, you know, they just want to put it behind what happened . well, i don't confirm this, but it looks very much like that, it can't be like that because, well, in fact, a person wanted to perform an operation for that she is being jailed if we start now to investigate all the operations that have been carried out, then now we can jail half of the leadership in general, if we say that you did something wrong there, you did it there and it led to the surrender of the territory and it led to the killing of civilians and it led to something else, so you can start to understand it and uh, the majority of the state leadership will be behind bars tomorrow , and can the chervinsky case become the subject of consideration by the specialized committee in the verkhovna rada, i can’t, well, the committee is

very afraid of those cases, the committee is getting energized right now to consider such cases well, i am sure that if this question is simply asked, it will somehow be blocked well, because the president's office will give an order not to consider it now in the verkhovna rada , the verkhovna rada, it well, starting from the vote and ending with our monomajority and all the teams to consider something and what to do with review of the president, if the office of the president does not allow the team to vote on this or that law, it is not voted on, if he gives the command not to consider this or another issue at the committee, it is not considered, it is blocked there are different ways. believe me, i think i know this because it has already happened many times. well, look, if the brothers are democratic, then it is impossible to fight against the lawlessness, if well, we have not yet reached this point. well, could you initiate, for example, the consideration of such a temporary investigative commission in general this case is on the profile committee. yes, i can do everything. if you will, then i will see how this case will go on. look, just do something for the sake of something, no, for this, there must be a concrete

, for example, result. well, here for the temporary investigative commission, of course. it is necessary watch but i'm sure that he didn't vote for her even now, so we'll figure it out, we'll watch, we'll talk, a lot of people follow it and just raise it . noise is one thing, but doing real things is another , so of course you have to do everything to ensure that chervinsky is not behind bars do you have predictions. and what can this case be like - the further course of events is difficult, very difficult to say here the question . defense, if it somehow unfolds in the public sphere, they can somehow be seen there, but then again, they have already given chrvinsky two months to be behind bars, if we have time, let's say yes

, slow down, then he can be behind bars indefinitely, he is like general shaytanov we know that the fisherman was also accused of treason , and on condition, and now he and bakanov are on condition, it is not clear where and they have questions about treason, the general is sitting and he still has no sentence and i am talking not to release him, but to give him a sentence, if he is a traitor, there should be a sentence , but three years, not even here, now, he is not given anything, because in fact , there is nothing against him yet, and then they closed it and made a resonance in the same way it can be with chervinsky, they made a resonance, a person can be under guard for years and there will be no nuances of the soldiers, there will be no enlightenment, they just closed and that’s all i think it’s like this, they also measure the degree of society, what will happen if the military is closed thank you for joining the broadcast roman

kostenko narodny mp of ukraine faction vote, secretary of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, thank you, holiday of democracy. that's how the current head of state called the results of the first round of presidential elections in turkey . actually, he could not get more than 50% of the votes, so the second round of elections will take place and it is scheduled for may 28 according to the results of the processing of all ballots, the current head of state won 49.51% of the votes from his main rival kemal kylychdar oglu 44 points 88%, and actually the third participant , sin naogan, was supported by 5.2% of the voters and in fact, with their help, analysts predict that he will be able to help the current candidate from the opposition in the second round. i will add that for roger dogan himself , observers predicted unprecedented challenges that could put an end to his 20-year rule. well, in general, these presidents speak in

turkey, analysts call them the most important in europe in 2023, they are important for ukraine due to the fact that since the beginning of the full-scale russian invasion, ankara has become an intermediary in communication with moscow, in particular, it was not without the participation of president erdoğan that it was possible to free him from the capture of a hundred ukrainian prisoners of war and hostages, well, in addition, turkey played a key role in the establishment and operation of the so-called grain corridor. well, the presidential elections in turkey have already been called the ones that will determine the path the country will move in the coming years. regarding the russian-ukrainian war , we will not only continue to talk about it with the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the republic of turkey, vasyl bodnar, we are in touch with mr. vasyl my greetings good evening glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, mr. vasyl, from the opposition candidate, we have already heard accusations against the incumbent president of manipulation

that allegedly slowed down the counting of votes in large cities, that allegedly accelerated the polling stations with pro-government voters, what is the current situation in the country in general, or is this the holiday of democracy, as erdoğan christened it , how does it feel? maybe, on the contrary, the tension is increasing , you know, there is no tension, and on the contrary , i would recommend paying attention to the comments of the political figures themselves, and to the evaluations of the osce the most objective in this case is the monitoring mission , and among them are our people's deputies who participate in the observation mission, according to their estimates, the elections were held democratically and there were no violations that would affect the results of the elections . what is in ankara, what in istanbul, and in antalya, our diplomatic missions give, everything happened calmly without any clashes, democratically in accordance with the procedure provided for by turkish law, and in fact it was very high the participation of the majority - 88% of turkish citizens who

have the right to vote took part in this vote. and that confirms how important the results of these elections are for turkish society and what choices they make. they made yesterday and will make in two weeks a what position on the russian-ukrainian war is voiced in the opposition , does it coincide with all the opposition forces, because we know that pylychdar oglu represents six different parties, is there a common position on the russian-ukrainian war, see in fact, it was the most vocal about its position regarding russia's aggression against ukraine. the so-called good party is the second coalition partner among the opposition. they took the most vocal position during the war on ukraine. the ruling party is the first leading opposition party, the republican people's party. demonstrates

a similar pro-government position regarding support for ukraine, but also talks about the need for dialogue with russia . turkey will not take a different position because the state interest is not measured by party views, and there are no major differences in worldviews regarding how to focus on whom to make clear friends , here the question is how to make turkey a stronger global player and from if they were to move away from this and not as in some countries they are oriented towards the east, the west there , it will go or the north, they are on their own and believe that turkey is a global player who should impose his opinion and not listen to someone else's.

the component did not join the sanctions of the european union, in fact, through turkey, the export of goods to russia is increasing, this has been said repeatedly, and in fact it allows the turkish economy to earn money. the opinion of business because business circles, especially those who and the turkish economy is expert-oriented, so any party depends on the opinion of business and big business associations from the very beginning of the war in in the 14th year, they opposed any restrictions on trade with russia. but of course there is a principled position on the fact that limiting the access of goods subject to sanctions and not allowing foreign campaigns to use the territory of turkey to circumvent these sanctions is state policy . and this is what the opposition also supports, which also declares its willingness to be more open to the west, or in fact, sometimes i will say, to achieve results, you can say anything, but if you have 92% of the population who, um, wear mtz-western sentiments

then it is very difficult to form a policy that is contrary to public sentiments , it is such that the elements are related to the choice of the second story - these are issues related to ukraine and russia's ongoing aggression against ukraine, let's do it anyway do not forget that the current government has supported ukraine, supported ukraine politically, and of course there is a continuation of military-technical cooperation and defense cooperation, and this is not only supplies to us, but also cooperation in the field of high technologies, such as unmanned aerial vehicles and helicopters and other other equipment flies to our engines, there are many other forms of cooperation in turkey, it is mutually beneficial and mutually complementary formats, which i hope will be important for anyone . who will win the presidential election, by the way ? economist timatiyash , who focuses on the study of ukraine, russia , turkey, etc. he believes that the current