[000:00:00;00] yes, more people will see us , by the way, i always go after the broadcast and look at your comments if there are questions on the topic of the program that i can answer. votes are reported to the turkish media, whether or not president recep tayyip erdoğan is currently receiving 49.34% of the vote and his opponent kemal ekelychdar oglu 45%. to be elected in the first round, a candidate must score more than 50%, otherwise, the second round will take place on may 26, where the two leaders will come out. the actual turkish elections and their consequences, their impact on the ukrainian economy will be the central topic

of our conversation today with expert serhii furso . we just heard that both candidates and the only candidate from the opposition and the current president of turkey, they get less than 50% of the vote, if nothing changes, another 2% must be counted, then the second round of elections will be on may 26 and for us it is still some time uncertainties, let's take a closer look at how tight and strong the economic cooperation between turkey and ukraine was under the current president. and what can change if the opposition wins, yes, on may 28, the elections will be held, but i'm sorry. i don't think there will be a significant impact. on the ukrainian economy, because the cooperation was of such a kind that it does not depend on the last name of the politicians

, problems are theoretically possible. if erdoğan loses the issue of beregtar, that is because raktar is erdoğan's son-in-law, and since when authoritarian politics is going on, so are his relatives run, but in principle there will be no other influence, it is simply necessary to understand that now the external influence of any economies on the economy of ukraine is minimal simply because there is a war and all these stories are limited, however, precisely after the elections, the self-turkish economy will most likely face very difficult times, because the last months, maybe even a year, cardigan lived in such a paradigm and we would have to hold out for a day, we would have a night ahead because his economic which was very bad and very destructive and it

led to crazy economic problems in turkey has rampant inflation, and for the past year they have been keeping the exchange rate of the artificial lira with all their might, the central bank has done it all with justified falsehoods, and you can’t do this indefinitely, because whoever won after the elections, when they exhale and decide that well, all the elections have passed in one way or another. by the way the devaluation of the lira is likely to be very strong. well, in principle, again, since this is already a very long process, the process of long inflation is constantly caused by the devaluation of the lira, then turkey can theoretically become the first chain of some big country. well, i would also mention the grain corridor which is impossible without turkey, and it is happening in some way, it can deter russia from its constant attempts to interrupt that grain corridor, and so we can export our grain. but will the leader of the opposition, if he becomes the president of turkey, be able to support this flow i have a question about ukrainian exports because, as far as i understand, it does not

have very good relations with russia, again, on the one hand, and on the other hand, the grain corridor is held not by our army of ardagan, but by our army of the turkish fleet , which is much stronger in the black sea than the russian fleet and this is the main factor of influence, we remember it at the end of last year in november it seems when the russian fleet but we are leaving and the turks said and we are not leaving so we will continue yes and everything continued therefore there are really moments here for us it is very what is important is the truth and the real erdoğan, it is more possible to accept an aggressive alpha male as putin can be afraid of whom he can expect aggressive steps, theoretically he can test the new president if there will be a new president in the event that there is an extension once again there are 60 days of the corridor and so on. but again, the turkish army is nowhere to be found. by the way, it is also a member of nato, and as it was a member

of nato , there will be a new president . it would be much more interesting for us. well, i saw on the news that in fact russia attracted the same thing that it did with yanukovych , uh, well, yanukovych was lent money, and uh, redugan was allowed not to pay on time to his enemies so that there would be no big payouts before the elections, why should the opposition leaders kemal-kylich-daroglu finally study this last name? he made a loud statement that russia is interfering in the turkish elections . was this a market-based decision ? is it still political? well, in principle, western countries also very often allow us to make some deferrals on loans, as far as this can be considered an intervention

, well, the economic situation is the letters of credit, we went to a meeting, well, again, in the western countries, they never allowed deferrals and payments, eh. we restructured once in for the last 20 years there, our payments on euro sheets are private creditors and this was done through negotiations with private creditors. by the way, this leader of the position with the surname still has not learned to pronounce it, he made statements about russian interference in the elections not because of money, but because of active attacks that russia used again by the method of e-e botis maidanov is aggressive what you saw on his facebook is aggressive and propaganda e and that is why he made such a statement yes, yes, i agree, well, it was one of the elements, because the economy is also important

, then we will leave the topic of turkey until may 28 how you noted correctly, and we will return to it later, let's talk about other topics, in particular, again, on the external economy , the united states of america for the first time conducted the transfer to ukraine of confiscated money from a russian oligarch, and it says about the amount of uh, several tens of millions of dollars, which in fact is not it looks like some kind of big sums, we understand that russian oligarchs in foreign banks, and in particular in the united states, have much larger sums and assets stored. why is this process going so slowly why is this just a symbolic step? we wanted to have billions of dollars from them. i would like someone there to hand me a couple of billions of dollars. look. well , first of all, this is important as a precedent for the united states, a precedent rule and where to start malefiev is just perfect a candidate to start with him or he is very involved

, he is so uh-uh, do you remember president poroshenko once called navinsky a very orthodox oligarch about you, yes, malafeev is very orthodox oligarchs and also very about putin's an oligarch and he actively took part in the attacks on ukraine in the 14th year, i say, i think serhiy can be quoted, this is not a slur , what kind of word is the orthodox bitch ? in some ways, he was right, i was wrong about the sums of 5 and 4 million dollars. well, not even a few dozen, not even a few dozen. yes, konstantin malafeev, the owner of the tsargrad tv channel , where did he come from? well , only 5 million russian propaganda is pouring in. but again, these are the first steps. this is important. we don't it is important what the amount is, it is possible that this created precedent is now becoming larger due to the probable transfer of more money to russian oligarchs, individuals or legal entities

, in this case it is not about sovereign debt, it is very important to remember that there is the most - a much more complicated story, but the money of the oligarchs is is pandora's box for access to the money of the russian oligarchs that is frozen open, and this is very important for us? chelsea e-e abramovich once sold chelsea he promised to transfer money to ukraine, somewhere around 3 billion dollars are frozen there and they should come to ukraine, but not to the state budget, but some humanitarian programs should be determined there. and so something will continue to be frozen, some assets will go how from penny to penny let's do it firstly, it's nice that the russians will take it, secondly, they will give us this money, just unlike abramovich's money

, it will go to the ukrainian budget, they will not interfere there. what he says is 5 million dollars. well, what is it? is it a small amount and the amount is not small ? we just know that they have more there. well, if someone suddenly thought that it is possible that such a russian was caught there, who is not guilty of anything, let me remind you that the authorities the united states accused malofeeva of the owner of the orthodox tv channel, this is tv, of financing separatists in crimea and , in fact, malafis. although he denied this , there is all the evidence that he financed the same hill on strilkovo, a well-known russian militant and former fsb member, so what is it for? blame him, let's go back to ukrainian affairs, the parimatch company is such an online casino, online sports betting, it was announced that it left ukraine permanently after sanctions were violated against it, and we know

that the sanctions are for tax evasion were not introduced because of some separatist activity , they are not connected with the russians, uh, maybe it shouldn't have been, just like that, maybe it should have just fined the company, imposed some financial obligations on it, and not made the conditions for this company's work intolerable in ukraine, because in my opinion it was the largest company in this sector and they invested their money not only in this business, which is definitely not useful for society, but also in the development of sports and in their public statements they said that they they are trying to fight gambling and they created a fund that invested in it technology well, it seems that they worked on their image and tried to look like such a serious company, not

just not just a gambling business, er. what is your conclusion from this story? do you um-m think that everything is working properly, our regulatory bodies, well, look at the cigarette packs, they also write that the roots kill uh, about how the sanctions were issued. well, the only thing that can worry here is that against someone, the introduction is against someone, it is not introduced, this is surely a painful question and question why, yes, why there parimatch yes, for example, you have a problem with betmy, right? yes, we probably don’t like this method of solving the problem . you didn't use them they were published they were very creative but they also destabilized valya the market and it was a violation at least well come on

it was very wrong ugly i think it was a violation of the law maybe i will be wrong but these schemes were not a beautiful thing and in principle, the question arises, the game business is always a very profitable story, why not avoid tax breaks and there may arise. the second question is that the very structure of taxation of the ukrainian game business is problematic and it is necessary that i, again well, i'm not a specialist in the gaming industry, especially in ukraine, but i heard that there is so-called double taxation there, which forces these companies to use schemes and not pay taxes honestly, because the gaming industry is always big profits, huge profits, and for me there was always a question: why? well, they don't pay taxes and don't live normally, uh, like people. and judging by everything, there is well, first of all, human greed on the one hand , and on the other hand, those problems with taxation that

make the business itself uninteresting for them, if they will pay taxes honestly, and i am sure that this is a problem where we need to hold a round table meeting of some kind of commission and determine what, if it is not public, it is better to do it. companies do not pay taxes helping to avoid them and maybe something needs to be changed so that they like working in the light more, we really will continue to work actively in the dark, this whole industry and this is not very good, again, a healthy story because it is legalized, but it should be better to work legally. well, in order to make it more clear to the audience how big this company was, by the size of the employees, there were only 1,100 employees, all of them have been laid off , now 1,100 are unemployed, the company says that in

two years they have paid more than 850 million uah in taxes, at the same time detectives of the bureau of economic security believe that the company mm avoided paying taxes for almost this amount, not even more than uah 1 billion, well, let's see how events will develop further, because the company though all dismissed her, but the company's lawyers continue to fight for her honor and dignity in court. but she does not hope to resume her activities . we will monitor this because the company is large and we, as an economic program, cannot avoid talking about the bookmaker business because it is also part of the ukrainian economy is money. people work there. well, many people work there. let's talk about soft loans. here is a statement that heat power plants and heat power plants, which, well, at first

glance, do not look like business for us. for ordinary citizens, this is some kind of service and primarily communal communal service, but it turns out that now they can also take in the program of soft loans 5 7 9, which was created from the very beginning to support ukrainian small businesses, and receive this soft money for the conversion of tpps and chps by serhiy nu and well, this is the last topic of our conversation will be how smart is this ideology of the 579 loan program to be expanded to the extent that the applicant and the tess could receive this money or should we help them in some other way because it seems to me that this focus on ukrainian small business is being lost. well, there was not only a small business, but also a medium one. but nevertheless, well, chp and chp. well

, is it a business, well, first of all, it is a business and it should be a business, or if it's not a business, why does anyone work there at all? regarding the focus. well, it seems to me that a bank and a small business are not very suitable for each other, because mostly small business works in such a way that banks cannot correct it. in principle, i don't really believe everyone these soft loan programs therefore that banks now lend not because they don't lend, not because they don't have money or because the rates are somehow wrong , they don't accredit banks because they don't trust the one to whom they can give money, this is the biggest problem in ukraine, this is again based on the lack of the rule of law, because it is very easy not to return loans to the bank, and that is why they are now very cautious in lending, there is a lot of criticism, but sometimes this criticism is very interesting , because businesses come out and actively criticize the banks that it is impossible to take

loans from these banks if see history of that businessman, it turns out that it is 100-200 and so on millions that the bank does not return the loans, and very regretting that it is stolen from them , they provide unfair competition. 001 should also be written, but in small e-e font you can read that the effective rate is actually 30%, and here the loan is 5, 7, 9%, so i think that many ukrainians now envy those mothers and fathers who are now in this preferential program. well , in fact, there is also for there are many individuals soft loans p sergiu thank you for the conversation we will watch the turkish elections we will watch what the events are called next serhiy fursa investment banker representative of the investment group dragon capital buf in us in m how can you on mondays on the air i am andriy yanitskyi the host of the economic program on the espresso tv channel see you with you

tomorrow at 8:00 a.m. we will win together, see this week in the program collaborators of the kremlin propagandists in social networks, how the rashists use opinion leaders, that is, ukraine, and how venal bloggers zumba their subscribers, the people of ukraine and the justification of the news, this is a program of collaborators. and i am olena kononenko, all ukrainians, non-bloggers who popularize the views of murderers on the internet to a million audience, you will see the pages of those who need to be disliked and banned . the bloody war in the 21st century showed that the internet and modern technologies completely

changed the tactics of warriors, so other fronts have appeared, which also need to protect speech. about social networks, rashka uses them as a platform for his propaganda. the scheme is simple: they buy a millionaire blogger and pay therefore, wooden rubles, and he, in turn, is silent about the destruction of ukrainian cities, the brutal murders of women and children, and the torture of our soldiers, or cheerfully promotes the liberation of the brotherly people to the music, do you think that's what only venal russian bloggers do? unfortunately, such traitors with ukrainian passports are also led tiktok one of the most popular media platforms in the world 170 countries more than a billion users around the world until last year published entertainment content here but after a full-scale attack, this social network

became one of the central platforms for publicizing the atrocities of the fascists in the first months after february 24, the hashtag ukraine became one of the most popular in the whole world, and videos about what is happening in ukraine were viewed about 1.4 billion times every day, while ukrainians were talking about heroic the history of our country's struggle , this millionaire blogger talked about the people of bandera who talk nonsense putin is a fascist that he didn't warn already when the fascist attacked ukraine he warned there was a release so that he warned who is this mankin smart man from mordovia roman valeriyovych he was 21 born in donetsk after the 14th year his family stayed in the occupied territory and in the 20th year roman entered the donetsk state university to major in advertising and public relations in the future his ability to advertise is very

it was necessary to advertise the russian measure - in parallel with his studies , he was actively developing social networks at roman or bulochki 10, this is his nickname 4 and 4 million followers in tikka until february 24, he filmed funny sketches all salt after a full-scale attack russia, the mordovian man sat in donetsk for the first few months, then something itched and he screamed in moscow along with moving to the swamps , the theme of his video changed instead of parody, dirty propaganda poured in. i love russia for the smell of black currants, i will not let a mermaid sneer at my eyes. ukraine for allegedly taking away the childhood of the children of donbass in its university, even made a whole presentation on this topic, roman , i want to open your eyes since the 14th year, the childhood

of the family, the home and the city were destroyed by its missiles, it was russia that is a true story ukraine is taught in schools and universities. and i forgot, you’re studying in some kind of multi-part school for the unintelligent. in addition, this blogger created a telegram channel with more than 12,000 subscribers. there he posted something about the shelling of residential buildings by the armed forces of ukraine. putin, well done and about the bright future of the terrorist dpr and lpr from russia's rashness, the name is amazed eh что я буду тебя and you don't remember when they shot at us ukraine вы не помните етого well, i'm already without the main video about tet and when to get the russian the passport raises the question of whether crimea is the same and tells who really killed mariupol, and from the side of ukraine it only confirms

that now this scumbag sits in moscow and watches videos with russian tiktoks, appears in commercials, praises the rashiv government - this is the life of a spineless worm, earning bloody rubles with the russian people and so yes, maybe the world will be peaceful, 140 million gold on the planet definitely looks superfluous , i hope our law enforcement agencies will pay attention to this putinist mark makarov is 23, originally from odesa. after graduating from school in the 17th year, he moved to moscow. and later he joined the popular russian blogging house ikso-team, where he was bought by stelmaks in tick point. invasion, this creative person promoted dezu

for peace between fraternal peoples, i wonder how much conscience cost ukrainians after february 24 in his telegram channel, mark says he communicated with subscribers where he thanked them for supporting his other views on this war what i think from the video that we have already seen is clear. i know that people will understand, maybe not now and not tomorrow, but at one point their consciousness will turn over. people will always attack those whose opinion does not coincide with the opinion of the majority. until march, parents are changing in ukraine. my mother is more today. i'm here, why did you explode? i'm now in moscow , far from all my relatives here. security

is not a fever. people in belgorod do not think so about security. the authorities are very much waiting for your return to ukraine to listen to your other opinions about the murderous war called russia's invasion of the territory of ukraine in the 14th year a coup d'état, recognized the occupation of crimea and spread fake news that the ukrainian authorities committed genocide in donbas, and also promoted the idea of ​​independence, the pseudo-formation of the dpr and the lpr, all this about pop tetyana ivanovna in 1983 year of birth from the city of khust, transcarpathian region, in the 14th year she stayed away from the events on the maidan. and already in the 15th year, we were forced to leave ukraine and

move to moscow, where she worked as a journalist, due to a threat to her life and social activities and developed her own pseudo-political blog, the student is poor, when after that they call us aggressors, don’t apologize. this balalaika created the echo of kyiv resource, on which she conducted her own program, echo , with a pop song. telegram has 64,000 subscribers on youtube, and her chatter about the russian killer and the most democratic country in the world, donbas, are babbling ukrainians. kremen is actively spreading tik tok and they are gaining hundreds of thousands of views for all this blogging media activity. she did not receive a golden button from youtube, but a golden suspicion from our in

may 2022, the security service of ukraine charged tatyana pop with justifying the armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine, and on august 25, the case was referred to the court in may 2023, with regular hearings scheduled in the uzhhorod city district court, this mouthpiece of kremlin propaganda is being tried in absentia, we are waiting for a harsh sentence, tetyana's pop did not violate the rubber pops, this is a kremlin blogger, a propagandist, the sbu and the vinnytsia prosecutor's office have already taken on podolyak yury ivanovich , 48 years old, born in the city of sumy, lived in verkhnyi pishchany, where his father now lives a retired doctor, yuriy, a graduate of sumy state university, worked as a private entrepreneur in the field of auto repair, at the beginning of russia's invasion of

donbas and the annexation of crimea in the 14th year, he left to the swamps from where he has been conducting subversive activities for more than 8 years, the fact that the people of ukraine are beneficially friends with russia anu , the people of ukraine should and the country must be friends with russia , the podolaka takes an active part in the informational and psychological operations of the russian special services, regularly appears on propaganda tv channels, in particular, on solovyov's talk show under the time of the broadcast calls for the capture of ukraine and the support of the russian occupation groups in the destruction of the civil infrastructure of our country, and he will bring all this to a large audience in this a traitor in the telegram channel almost 3 million subscribers on the russian platform rutube almost 400,000 how many rotten kremlin narratives pour from these telegram channels it is scary to even imagine in april 2023 the residents of podolya were immediately notified of suspicion for five articles, among them calls for changing state borders

war propaganda and treason, no matter how much a blogger is paid to millions, the world knows the truth, don't hide it and don't dance. rubles bought phones cars but soon in the butsegarna there will be transfers waiting for you this was a program of collaborators and i am olena kononenko if you want to tell about the kremlin sellers, write to us at this e-mail address or simply on facebook together we will send all the traitors in pursuit of the russian ship see you next