[000:00:00;00] of course, the vatican diplomacy , which would also have to be strained somehow , because it is about the fate of the soldiers who were captured, are in captivity as privates and officers of the armed forces of ukraine, not only and they are treated inhumanely . they let out the half-alive well, it is good that there is an exchange, but in my opinion, the international legal human rights organizations are clearly not working on it. is it laziness or is it fear? for 30 years, you and i also know how much the russian federation has immersed its agents in international structures, as an example - this is the organization of the united nations, and believe me, i believe that you understand and

know that this organization is not enough yes, you and i see photos of lavrobas with utf smiles, well, it’s just how to say it, it’s such and such a failure of the international organization itself , and here it’s not a question of the russians , it’s clear to them what they’re doing, but here it’s a question of the leadership and all the structures organizations of the united nations, which they have to fulfill, they don't know, they didn't use all the possibilities in order to stop it and at least push it , but the second side is sanctions, well, we have been with you for more than a year we are talking about the banking sector, this is the same question. and to our great allies, you are the partners of the savin countries , what is happening in our politics , at least in terms of banks. that is, we will receive help from one side, and from the other side, we know that some companies cooperate with

with this russian machete and finance themselves with a war machine that continues to commit these crimes, i.e. how do you say the question, that the russians will stop only when they are stopped? and this means that they are not being stopped at a sufficiently proper level. and again , reforming the structure of the organization about of the united nations is not that they are not up to date, you and i know that since 2014 we have been shouting about the inability of the united nations agencies to violate any convention, which the russians have also violated since 2014, and i am not talking about the international red the cross, which in principle does not have one, i don’t know, we can write 6 letters to the international red cross to our national international red to our national red cross, there are no questions , well, that is, they work as much as possible very well within those limits, but what concerns the international red cross is a disaster and we need to talk about this very clearly and loudly, and not draw conclusions , but act in order to change this system , you and i know how enormous funds, billions

, go to this organization, we, you and us we understand what these funds could be spent on, the truth is, and that's why, uh, it's just that we need to publicly speak loudly about this inability and change, decide to correct this situation, correct it right now, in time, it's for the future. thank you, mr. maria, for what you are doing for our country , both inside our country and outside its borders . well, thank you, of course, for this direct inclusion. maria ionova, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the verkhovna rada committee on foreign policy and inter-parliamentary cooperation, was included live with reykjavík, where the extremely important summit of the council of europe is taking place, united around values, will start work in reykjavík today, well, the story is a reparation from the russian interventionists , they have to pay now there in reykjavík , in particular, they will present a knock-down, so to speak financial results to the conversation in

the studio of igor lytvyn and the head of the ukrainian -chinese business council, the former ambassador of ukraine to china. good afternoon, mr. igor. he came ostensibly to discuss the political settlement of russia's war against ukraine, today is the day of his arrival in ukraine, well, i have no doubt that he came to ostensibly but really to discuss the political settlement of what they call the ukrainian crisis or the ukrainian conflict in china, and as far as i know, it has been going on for a couple of hours in our ministry of foreign affairs , the purpose of these negotiations is to find out the position and find out the possibilities of the parties to make some compromises

in order for this, as they say, to be a conflict er is frozen and er there were reasons to hope for a political settlement of it, this means that china needs er peace in china wants to make it so that everyone wants him to be a global player as a mediator, especially since there is experience of his successful mediation in er for reconciliation and early saudi arabia and then china, after he was a whole year, well, you know, such a fortress of neutrality, he began to position himself as a global player , and now we see on the screen they sent a dick who was 10 years old extremely

authorized tosol of the people's republic of china republic in russia he was supposed to come yesterday, i have no reason to think that tonight's crazy attack the crazy shelling of kyiv, they were somehow not what was agreed, but uh, what was warned, but my opinion is this, so russia wanted to show a special representative of the prc during the visit that is, if the evil one would come and see, it means, er, destroyed kyiv, the ruins of the verkhovna rada, the president's office, remove place by place , the ministry of defense, there was one position , you absolutely see, guys, well, look at you

, let's stop this, it means, er, what it's happening, let's consider the peace plan of freezing between the conflicts, and here it turned out that there is a lot of trouble, this means that the actions are tame, and now the den is teaching to the eyes that they can see that from here ukraine is waging a frantic struggle for its independence and is not going to give up, but gives dignified execution of the occupiers. therefore, as they say, there is something to think about. now is the leadership of the people's republic of china. and for all the others who will be the next places , it means visiting the bodice, that is, poland, germany, and russia, they all have

to realize that if we have a real picture when the ukrainian people are only a fighter for their independence and er no freezes and not on which so yes er the lines of today's confrontation er will not agree if they are er stopped right here that's why it is becoming clear to everyone that europe, which gives us the most modern weapons, which just helps us to deliver these crazy attacks, is doing everything right, it is consolidated and that is exactly what it achieved. started this crazy war, well, here is the story, what can he bring or what did he bring in his diplomatic suitcase to kyiv , we understand that well, what our anti-aircraft defense worked on ur, thank god, thank our

fighters, everything was done clearly, and there were no victims and no destruction in any way - in any case, i think that all the callers have very clearly prescribed his diplomatic road map , according to what he will voice and what he will bargain about, so that is, the first visit - it will be to kyiv, then there will be paris, berlin, warsaw and moscow, and accordingly he wants to check, so to speak certain offers are trade, but as far as we understand the position of our european allies coincides with our position, no one will go, so to speak, to meet putin and no one will save either his face or the face of sisinpin, that is, there is a more or less consolidated position of the west and supplying us with long-range missiles is a radical demonstration of a radically new approach on the part of the western countries, but the question of

what the special representative of beijing brought in his diplomatic luggage on the current voyage is a good example they called the so-called chornovol shuttle diplomacy, which was demonstrated by some engineer when he was rushing between the arab countries and the countries of israel, etc. ukraine, that is, the four principles of compliance with the norms of the un charter, the wish means the concerns of the countries of the world about their

security, the political settlement, what do they call the ukrainian crisis and preserved stability of food and production chains in this world, this means that the plan is known . he hardly brought anything special with him, he will simply visit the capital and listen first of all to what the leaders of these countries will say to him based on his position and then they will consider and weigh whether it is possible for them to impose this on them, it means a plan, all the more so because of this visit by boat, it means bad , a lot depends, especially in the light of

the statement of europe, you remember and in that that this is a barrel, the chief diplomat of the european union expressed the great hope of the european union that china will influence russia to withdraw from the territory of ukraine and emphasized that if this does not happen , then relations between the european union and china will never be normal, right? do you understand what a risk china is facing now when he sees such a position and all he has to do is say that there is no need to put pressure on us and you are watching such frantic diplomatic activity of china's vice- the vice president went to europe, so what do you think is the main leader in chinese diplomacy , tsinga, the minister of foreign affairs went to europe, all this indicates that china is trying to find out if their

peace plan for ukraine has any prospects is there no or do we have to make some kind of decision, i would like to ask you to forgive me for interrupting you so much, but i asked you to immediately encrypt this chinese diplomatic language, please translate it from chinese diplomatic language to ours simple ukrainian, in particular when china says that it respects sovereignty and territorial integrity and acts in accordance with the statute oh well, de facto we have an unprovoked attack , an unprovoked repeated attack of one state on another with not just annexation and or occupation with the annexation of certain territories, according to changes the constitution, the inclusion of the territory, the holding of completely false pseudo-referendums, and so on and so on . that is, it is all the regular ones, you know, according to

the current line. of the world and that he respects sovereignty and territorial integrity. at the same time, he plays along in an economic way with the russian federation, please encrypt it, please, when the chinese wrote their memorandums, what did they mean, do they respect our sovereignty or tobago, and they always understand act in this way, we can speak in accordance with what is written let's say so in the statute, we emphasize that we are moving in line with the instructions of this statute, we stand for sovereignty and against corruption all the more so that in relation to ukraine, the children have repeatedly confirmed their commitment to ukraine, which means respect for the sovereignty of ukraine, and he still does not recognize that according to russian, neither the lpr

, the dpr, nor, of course, all the territories that moscow is now trying to declare as constitutional, which means property. - and the russian federation , that 's why , you know, i had a lot of negotiations with chinese partners on various topics. well, the requirements themselves. and you ask. and what is it that you agreed to yesterday? well, it was a bad translation . we didn't really, uh, so, well, we got into what 's called in this topic, so you don't need to uh-uh perceive uh-uh, chinese declarations as what they really are . wants china, on my deep conviction that china has interests, but he has to keep his face because losing face is the greatest grief

for a chinese person. thank you, mr. ambassador ihor lytvyn, co-chairman of the ukrainian-chinese business council, former ambassador of ukraine to china from 1999 to 2001 , extremely professional analysis of the situation what are we for thank you, mr. ambassador , let's go further , we will be a little further north than ukraine in belarus, about what is happening with the self-proclaimed leader of this country, we are talking with valery kovalevsky, the representative of foreign affairs of the united transitional cabinet of belarus. lukashenka as he really is, but john lukashenko did not appear in public for six months, and the other day, on the eve of his visit, i appeared again as it was in moscow, and at the meeting

who looked and he was very vermickeran ah, in the end, he appeared here yesterday , eh, and he looked even more miserable, and he looked, and hummed, and fiddled with himself, eh . in his height, it was obvious that it was difficult for him that he would not be painted with these medicinal preparations, and there was a bandage on his left arm , which showed that these were his costs. bend a and this all of course added only to those speculations of what's happening with lukashenka nicole earlier and he still doesn't look like a bad guy at the stands, i'm not sure about the stands, he gave up on public speaking, all this shows that the health of lukashenka has been dealt a very strong blow, people, when we increase the fact that he returned to the public domain, is it such a short time, or is it idiosyncratic that from this moment

, the trajectory for lukashenko, for his health , will only go down, and at such a height, people no longer renew their health after such bridges udarov ago a-and that's why we see that people in belarus are also in lukashenko's shark, they are starting to think about what will happen in italy , of course we understand that the kremlin has the same thing, knives are waiting for the moment, lukashenko can whistle today, at least the main threat to us is that what can happen when lukashenko is black for a completely different reason, and which will be carried out in russia or in a bad house that they do not want to lose control over belarus for more than that, they can take advantage of the situation for that, how is this control to be imposed on us, and what options for the development of events is considered by the belarusian opposition? and of course, we are also preparing for such a scenario of events, eh, and here are two main tracks : this is what will happen in belarus, how

will it react, eh the civil patriotism of the people of belarus, i remind you of the situation and what we can do together with our international partners, remembering that , today, the lukashenko regime appears to be illegal, and it will be illegal to interfere with russia in the internal affairs in belarus, the belarusian people have a single legal and legitimate border, and the belarusian people have made their choice in the 20th year when they voted for svetlana tikhanovskaya. of the belarusian people, they must be respected, there can be no other options, and this is the position that must be the main one for the international community . with strenuous efforts, we were able to get the corridors ready, but valery well, let's go back to the visit

before lukashenka's return to belarus, that is , he left moscow urgently and suddenly, so well, if he really was in the hospital, i think it could be explained somehow i don't know what's there, the stomach fungus ate up, i don't know, uh, no, not well-cooked dumplings and so on. well , they would explain something, but no, that is, first they showed his figure, which could be present in the madame tussauds museum, that is, absolutely some kind of non-viable, then a video appeared in a military uniform, when he chats about something with belarusian generals , representatives of his subordinates , that is, well, we could just give a video that would hint that he is alive, he would say good afternoon, i have arrived i work and would run in the country, that is, it was not necessary. perhaps you have information that the uniform of the belarusian commander-in-chief has now been imposed on me, perhaps right now

, on may 9, one or another decision was made in moscow related to the entry of belarusian e- is regime formations, so to speak, to go to war on the side of russia, or perhaps it is about some kind of intensification of their military cooperation . although it was not there anyway, lukashenko frankly looks terrible on the walkie-talkie, this is not because he is afraid, so to speak, for his health, well we understand, well, the person feels bad. well, there are doctors working there, shunting, or something else, i don't know , a microstroke. well, it happens like that, they and the doctors , but here he has an extremely panicky expression on his face. well, it seems to me that his face is panicked in lukashenko et al connected with the fact that yon assontsevaal eh that it is not eternal and that the end may turn out to be ver minutkum eh for him eh military-political supremacy with russia

basically remains on the same plateau as it has been for a long time eh example for 100 the moment when additional documents were signed from crap to shoigu. in november of last year, when the russians already held the legal right , the alleged legal conductor was the legal pretext for how he would interfere with his troops on the territory of belarus on a permanent basis , now lukashenko has gone further and er it is based on the placement of nuclear weapons on the territory of belarus, but there were no objects of lukashenko's action that if he signed the kremlin's two mouths, his departure from pravda was very quick, but it was also planned what was not planned in principle, it was desirable that he join moscow i made this request that it was hard for him that a-a yon was ready to move to the worst place a-a but you are the last footage we saw of lukashenka already after this six-day absence and they show that the person is not

really speaking is in unusual for himself in such an internal moral and psychological state and it is obvious that , well, he was pushed a lot . i'm very afraid, i'm afraid not only for myself, i'm afraid for my sons, er, for my sons, a-a , soblyvat svoje shshhogo, what kind of person has he been for a long time, who became the successor of yegor na a in the position of the leader of belarus, no matter how illegal it is, eh - but but his plans panic is breaking out in front of him, well, look, and if it happens that lukashenko will lie in the mausoleum , so to speak, and it will be forgotten, and we understand that there will be two scenarios , that is, either the belarusian opposition will somehow be able

to initiate certain movements, or the belarusian junta will pull out his son's knee and so to speak, it will start its own scenario, or it will just start a frank intervention by the russians - russians on tanks in order to seize power well, we understand how - what scenario they can roll out in belarus, yes. some kind of provocation, god forbid some kind of terrorist attack. and after that, the military scenario, we have three approximate options, how the belarusian opposition is seen and whether it will be possible, for example, to hold on to power in the event of something, under the conditions of so-called russian aggression against belarusians . we are dealing with a personalistic dictatorship, eh, everything is built in a vacuum, lukashenko and the ion appear a-and such a backbone for the entire system, eh, a colleague will be pulled out , then the whole system will fall apart. maybe it won't

happen in one or two days, but wait for that you people who were behind all this second third numbers eh recognize one of eh with their a-and for lukashenko's place they will be asked the same way as after lukashenka i don't believe in it eh the worst is the first on the struggle of the clans on the struggle against any internal forces and here your very important will be resistance to russia because russia has its own protocols and has its own plans and it wants not only to hide the influence it has now on the situation in ukraine, but also and it is decided to take it away from the village a belarusian with a friend, because er, there is a high risk hidden in belarus . they can be pirates on the democratic path of enlightenment, and in this way, somewhere in europe , they will join their european family , so the main task will be to lead them

into confusion russia in the internal affairs of belarus without this trifle without hetero interference in russia's internal affairs and all the same, people who are based on lukashenko's standing will not have a chance to survive, not in an economic, financial, or political sense. well, of course, i will not hide from the problem of the absence of an almost complete absence of external political relations after the election of lukashenko, because today the current politics of belarus, in the absence of which they will have to negotiate, and this is the lever that we will use in order to force the truth to stand in for compromises to hold democratic elections in belarus, it is first necessary to release from the political ranks voluntary cabins, as well as to the extent of the maximum from this right and in this political process well, but eh, an example of a plan like this, of course, it will be free schmaz complicities in any piece are more important than the complicities of those that today we cannot yet foresee. but that is not the sword, we consider this

situation as established a-a that eh-e lukashenko eh-e is now just going through the assembly stage eh-e where there may be a sign that this is the end for lukashenka and it will be only for the benefit of the belarusian people . to physical we must understand that the independence of our country is defended in a way that is not achieved only by declarations, then our final readiness must be increased to this . and this is what we must work on now. the dialogue of the negotiation process, which is not just destined to lead us to a compromise, no compromise solutions, but

also to ensure the stable nature of the treason in belarus, and we would not like a revolution to take place in belarus we understand that the revolution can cause significant damage somewhere, and it can bring both society and the country and individual people , so our nationalism is for that. how can we still agree on a peaceful transition to a regime ? but a regime has passed. in the democratic democratic government of the democratic soviet, which will already lead the country of both democratic societies to the side of the european family. well, there are currently about two and a half thousand russian soldiers on the territory of belarus , and it is not known in fact where they can direct their forces or in which direction of ukraine or if necessary, in the direction of minsk, are you ready for such a scenario? well, we see that the number of russian troops on

the territory of belarus has decreased for a few months. once and for all , they are not enough forces for what a new barvan is doing on the territory of ukraine. strategic reserve and we are sure that he will use this reserve when the situation is critical for himself. there are two scenarios, and when ukraine begins to win these caliphs , russia begins to win in those areas of the front where the main military money is now being spent, and then putin will they are ready to throw the belarusian reserve and prepare a war for him, and of course he has absolutely no business before what belarusian-ukrainian relations will look like, and your kremlin interests stand for him well, but for

today, the situation remains as it is stable and single that uh-uh us uh-huh believe me this will rest in belarus this is plans and preparation for the deployment of nuclear weapons of the uh-uh russian federation on the territory of belarus valery kovalevsky - the representative of foreign affairs of the united transitional cabinet in belarus was with us in touch and now the broadcast will continue news with anna eva melnyk. thank you, colleagues, i will start this issue with the situation in bakhmut and with what is happening in the suburbs for a few days, our troops liberated from the enemy in the north and south the suburbs of bakhmut about 20 m², this

was reported by the deputy minister of defense hanna malyar, at the same time the enemy is advancing somewhat in