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[000:00:00;00] for your thoughts on the topic of the continuation of the grain corridor, here we are andriy klymenko, editor-in-chief of the portal-plexia news, head of the monitoring group of the institute of strategic black sea studies. the territorial election commission has not been able to approve four deputy mandates since july 22, who and why is blocking the work of the tvc, our journalists first learned of a full-scale war, some deputies on the ground decided to resign their powers, some started volunteering, some went to fight, and some got fed up with politics, this happens in almost all regions of ukraine and lviv is no exception. deputies' powers can be prematurely terminated due to various circumstances
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at the request of an individual deputy in connection with three deputies of the regional council from the european solidarity party and one representative of the ukrainian galician party died in connection with other circumstances provided for by the law; others were appointed in their place candidates who were next on the party lists, everything would seem simple and the regional territorial election commission should have simply approved these persons and given permission for full-fledged work, and this has not yet happened for almost 10 months, some members of the tec do not come to the meeting and disrupt the quorum . sabotage by individual representatives of the lviv regional the election commission does not allow elected representatives of the residents of lviv region to enter the council, first of all, without a representative of the community of stryi district today there is a lviv regional council
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lychakiv district of the city of lviv, which also has electoral district and where two representatives are already without a mandate today, one of these courses is volodymyr, who died, and hryhoriy kozlovsky, who resigned, respectively . the communities of these districts remain without their representatives in the regional council. as early as july 2022, he was supposed to start working in the lviv regional council, and my powers should begin by substituting in the month of july for other candidates for deputies, the deputies in them would have these powers to begin in september in january of the 23rd year. that is, the beginning of the mandate should be for each deputy in different terms, but yaroslav's mandate is still suspended, he is no longer a candidate and still not a candidate for the lviv regional council, all because of the members of the territorial election commission who decided simply not to come to
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meeting on july 17, then the first meeting was convened there, which unfortunately took place due to the lack of a patient, on july 22 there was a second attempt, then on the fourth of september, finally in october, on october 7, the meeting was held, but there was no question to be supported at it accordingly, the commission also did not make any decision in those cases when the members of the pec meet in the right composition. they still sabotage the work of the commission, says the deputy head of the lviv regional tvc, oleksandr black, people came but just sat and accordingly led the heads without explaining their reasons, and this is unacceptable when tens of thousands of voters in the lviv region do not have this representation in the lviv regional council, and the reason for this is the conspiracy of certain political forces and their representatives in the lviv regional
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election commission. we received data on the of meetings of each member of the tvc, here we see representatives of little-known parties such as solidarity of women of ukraine, the party of local communities and even the gypsy party of ukraine, as well as quite popular, the most disciplined homeland and voice. and the most truants among the pro-government servant of the people and already banned by the opposition platform during their lifetime are two actually mainly this members of the commission from the servant of the people and psg, who, unfortunately, do not come to the meetings of our commissions. and if they come, they do not vote, if it did not sound strange and the representatives of the polish people's party are still in the local councils the thing is that the court banned the activities of only the pro-russian party itself and not the deputies and members of the tvc.
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precisely political forces on the eve of the elections in august 2020, therefore, these representatives are by virtue of the resolution of the central election commission of the central election commission as a regulator, which formed this commission, it has the right to accept the decision on the replacement on the termination of the powers we contacted the representative of the police department in the lviv regional tvc mykhailo herman and asked why he misses the meeting i am listening to you good day mykhailo bogdanovych my name is tatyana i am a journalist of the espresso tv channel please tell me why don't you go to the tvc meeting i was there, and before that they would not have attended and, according to my information , without valid reasons. no, i saw where i was. where was your presence ? volunteering outside the region before this
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meeting. if i was absent, then i i voted for the euv representative for entry into the deputy corps, i will vote for this, i emphasized the meeting of the special blocking of yours and you did not receive any instructions from any curators not to attend here, life is hard in the mountains. whose confirmation is this such and such information with any documents, no documents , respectively, there were some photos that he showed from the phone, another representative of the police in lviv oblast of the territorial election commission, elizaveta plat was absent from most of the meetings. and at the only one she attended, she simply decided not to vote. we also called her
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. why did you have so many appearances at the tec meeting ? meeting, i had a sick child, i was there, i reported about it , that is, since july 11. last year, you had good reasons, yes. about the illness, the chairman was informed about it in the hearing of the people in the lviv regional tec, there are also two persistent truants, ivan iskiv and maria bulka, the latter is also the secretary of the territorial election commission, and she also has reasons for not attending meetings. no, i did not count how many of you did not attend for valid reasons, which was not the case, i have a problem with my leg, you come just to avoid coming
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, the work of the commission is being blocked and i wonder if this is an independent decision of the members not to go to the commission, are these good reasons, or is it possible from someone? they received such an instruction not to attend the meeting. yes, no , one, two, three, five , go for a walk, what a car. i'll feel good. of truants, he never showed a single certificate of illness, and all these so-called good reasons are just excuses with which the work of the commission has been interrupted for 10 months, and the new deputies cannot adhere to their powers, the only problem we have is that she sick the last two sessions. what degree should have been on april 21 and april 24, but despite our request to provide documents, unfortunately , until now we have not received anything, no more
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intriguing facts that the person is actually sick, i wrote to the central election commission a long time ago should have dissolved the lviv regional tec due to inactivity, but this requires political will and does not allow it to be demonstrated by political competition, deal breakers and corruption , so thousands of citizens of ukraine, residents of lviv region still do not have their representatives in regional council thank you to our colleagues for this extremely informative story we are moving on to inform you about the most important thing espresso studio is now located taras rath coordinator of the public support network in the lviv region glory to ukraine taras congratulations let's play glory good evening well, before we move on to the analysis of the situation with tvc, an important important a message from the plenum of the supreme court expressed no confidence in the head of the supreme court , vsevolod knyazev, and because of this, he loses his position
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. will mean the dismissal of the chairman from his post, 137 families voted against, no one, exactly, no confidence vote , 140 judges out of 142 supported it until the new chairman of the supreme court is elected, his duties will be performed by the judge with the most experience. on a huge bribe about three bucks well, let's start at the final with tvc o for p taras what is the story with the lviv tvc and somehow can it be resolved in the near future because we are abutting here, that is, there are some conflicts there , i don't know the legal plan, well, someone got sick , someone didn't come and so on and so on. can this whole
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matter be resolved and why is it taking so long ? well, the plot was quite telling. well, as of now, five mandates have actually been suspended, but there are potentially five more, that is, in general, we can talk about a total of 10 in the future deputies for the 84th in the lviv regional council, the situation in the lviv regional territorial election commission is directly related to the events in the lviv regional council, that is, in this case, the situation in the tec is auxiliary and is used as a restraining mechanism for restraining the work and work of the lviv regional council , i.e. the law defines the adoption of a decision by the regional territorial election commission to formalize the fact of replacing the next candidate on the list for deputies, provided that when
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for various reasons , a deputy of the local council was kicked out, so we have this situation that has been going on since june . it is just a formal and procedural action when a quorum is supposed to gather and formalize this decision, but as we can see in the conditions of political struggle and confrontation, it is used as a tool to restrain the work of the regional council. and we see that these deputies are not replaced in connection with certain political reasons and not objective reasons, that is, there are no really objective reasons why the lviv regional territorial election commission cannot work . about
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the central election commission gives these powers to the central election commissions of higher-level commissions in relation to the regional territorial election commissions and in general, the law determines that in the conditions when there is an inefficiency of the election commission, which we, the higher-level commission, dissolves such an election commission and forms it with a new composition, and then this commission makes a decision and starts work, but obviously we observe the same inaction of the cec on the inaction of the tec, so this is a bit of a sad story in our country, actually, but i don't i will say that it is somewhat lonely. because the same inaction was observed in the case of, for example, the odesa city territorial election commission, where the city tvc also violated the procedure for replacing mandates, but the cec for some reason decided not to exercise its right
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on the dissolution of this tec well, how is it explained that it is connected with the fact that uh, all the processes in that t- city odesa city tec are controlled by , let's say, gennady trukhanov oh oh oh trukhanov yes , let's go back now, maybe we 'll go back to gennady trukhanov, too, but we'll come back now to lviv to lviv oblast in lviv oblast tec, the story is a bit different because there is a confrontation between the two main political forces - this is the servant of the people and european solidarity, which not so long ago was in the majority of the lviv oblast council. and now it has come into force political confrontations, she is in the opposition and in this confrontation between the two main political competitors , such a search for a solution is actually taking place, and they have been looking for it for the 10th month so far, and as a result of this plan . regional council iryna hrymak of lviv, yes, and what else, because of what
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, so to speak, these big non-public confrontations continue, the main confrontation is to gain control over the majority of votes in the territorial election commission, i.e. ten out of 18 members of the commission. and precisely because more than nine members of the election commission rarely come , the commission is not authorized to make any decisions, that is, they meet periodically , but since they are not authorized, they are unable to accept any wrongdoing, and this is more of an imitation works and it should be called direct text that this is sabotage because the body, i will remind you that the election commission is also collegial and independent, so the law says a body of public authority. that is, it is not just people
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, uh, in this commission, the parties appointed their representatives, in fact, by law, they should work in the interests of the community, that is, the voters, but in fact, we understand that all the members of the commission work according to the orders of the election staff of the upsj there are representatives of the upsj, that is, on the one hand, it has already become a meme in us, you understand the upsj pro-russian structure and so on and so on there well, but some of the deputies of the verkhovna rada remain deputies of the verkhovna rada, even though they have such a powerful political and biographical background, they are not the only one, so to speak, but it is still being clarified here that there are representatives of political parties in ukraine, in particular, in the territorial election commissions, somehow it can be normalized with the help of our priceless rubber legislation. well, when there were lawsuits on the banning of 16 pro-russian political parties, there was a discussion and the verkhovna rada was engaged in this because it made
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changes to the legislation which would provide a legal basis for making such decisions, and there was a discussion about what to do with the deputies of local councils, i will remind you that more than three thousand e-e representatives of various local bodies self-governance well, even then, the deputies did not dare to adopt a tougher version of the law, which would have determined the automatic termination of the powers of deputies elected on the list of electoral commissions and members of the election commissions who were appointed at the request of local branches of this party, adopted a somewhat softer intermediate option uh actually postponing the decision for later uh and the problem is me. i think there were several reasons why it was so and so in such editions it was accepted in some
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cases it was explained that there would be about 60 local self-government bodies, which will surely be disempowered if the powers of deputies from pro-russian parties are automatically terminated, because they form the majority of these cities, and accordingly, this decision is obviously postponed until the next first post-war elections of local councils, and until now there is no legal basis for depriving such representatives of their powers they continue to perform their duties in e-e election commissions and in local self-government bodies. well, a vivid example so that you understand these 18 members of the lviv oblast tec and the majority are representatives of the so-called technical parties, what is a technical party, these are parties that are formally political institutions but do not fight for power, they simply have the legal status of a political party, but de facto they are bought well , frankly, bought by other political parties parties fighting for power in order to
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form a pool of votes, a team of people who will help these main political forces to make decisions for themselves spoilers are party spoilers that perform the tasks of certain political forces, and the majority of commission members who do not come to the meeting are representatives of these spoilers for various reasons. the commission does not appear at the meeting, the law defines the legal ones in the election code, it is determined that the commissions are fast , but they are valid in similar stories , zuma or something, skype, they are not included , well, relatively speaking, i can’t, says someone there, but everyone saw it in the story, i was there somewhere outside
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within the boundaries of the region and so on and so on. well, maybe it's from the mask, maybe it really wasn't, but well, there is zoom, there are some skypes, and so on , which of the central election commission, if there were any additional clarifications, which would give the opportunity to the members of the election commission to remotely participate in meetings, it could potentially solve the problem, but no, it wouldn't solve it, i'll tell you frankly right away that if someone didn't have the internet , the mobile connection wouldn't be topped up, well, if an explanation could always be found, someone is looking for opportunities, and someone is looking for reasons not to to come like this, the problem is not in the possibilities that exist, but the problems are not desired and not ready to go, because the task is to block the work of the election commission in order to prevent the substitution of mandates, so it is necessary to correctly formulate the very essence of the problem about which we are talking about and here is the explanation that someone has a sick child, someone has a sick
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leg. well, we all have problems, but we are talking about a long period , the ninth and 11th months, that is, the problem can be for a short period, but you follow the trend, these people do not go for a long time, and in general, in such cases, commission members are replaced, well, after all, if you are busy as a volunteer , you explain that i cannot represent the interests of the party, replace me with someone who can go. but it is clear that this replacement is not it will be because the party is not interested in this, to carry out this replacement , i.e. and if the cec, for example, learns about that story, so it already goes to the public level, and so on, the cec makes a decision there to dissolve and restart the tvc. what if now
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the composition of this tec was formed so that you understand, the cec is well aware of this situation since july 2022, that is, they know everything very well and see what is going on in the commission, but they , if in the central election commission, i have the so -called right of discretion, that is, if the cec as the higher commission sees the incapacity of the commission of a lower level. it can dissolve the law and it is written that this is a possibility. but it is not obliged to dissolve this commission and the cec. that is, those who submit representatives to the election commissions, they do not contact us. well, if we do not respond to it accordingly. and we , for our part, would and do not want to assume this responsibility, respectively, in conditions of complete irresponsibility of all subjects . if the commission imitates its work. 11
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months it is impossible to do anything in reality . believe me. if there was political will at the level of the central and top leadership of political parties in kyiv, this issue could be resolved within a week or a month without any problems. regarding the future of the commission, if it were to be dissolved, the cec would simply dissolve this composition of the commission by its decision due to inaction and give the opportunity to other subjects to submit candidacies, then it would hold a lottery , probably the composition of the commission would be not only by representatives of one party, but by other parties, and this is a fear in principles of all parties. because it is better to partially control the commission than to lose absolute control over the commission, this is one of the explanations why so far none of the subjects of the political parties have appealed to the cec about at least i can't find another explanation for myself. well, this story can
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go on for months and months as i understand it, i think until the end of the term, that is, another two and a half years. the chairman of the chairman of the lviv regional council can potentially unblock the work of the regional tec because there will obviously be some kind of agreement reached at the level of the political forces that form the regional council, that is, there are 9 forces if they agree, i think it is it will de-escalate the situation in the regional tec and it can be restarted and believe me. the next day this commission is going to immediately accept the replacement of four deputies and work will resume, but this is such an idealistic option because the question is generally when the new chairman of the lviv regional council will be elected
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and they say that most likely, the regional council will enter the summer without a new chairman, what will happen next , the acting yevgeny vernyi, such attention to the regional councils, we understand that the main function has now been taken over by who military administrations, this applies throughout the country, well, the key story - this is probably about the budget, yes, that is, the regional councils perform such semi-decorative functions and representative functions, well , there is a certain influence on certain processes, but the military administrations took on the main, i don’t know, burden of real power and work well, it's true, that is, if an important component appears here - this is martial law and the military administration, which de facto carries out single-handed management of processes at the level of the region, in particular, and in the budgetary sphere why is it blocked until now, and i would probably explain it if it were an older story, which is connected with the confrontation at the level
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of the regional state administration and the lviv regional council when iryna hrymak was still the head before the declaration of martial law . it seems to me that this is related to a certain inertia with processes that begin as early as 2021, i.e., these long-standing confrontations at the level of the council and the administration in the conditions of martial law transformed into the final final marginalization of the lviv oblast today, the lviv regional council is absolutely unable to make any important decisions for the region, even because the law objectively deprives them of many powers that they had, primarily the controlling function in the budgetary sphere . in fact, the deputies are now deprived of the opportunity to ask how and in what way
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the funds are distributed, and in the end, taking into account internal party conflicts, because the issue is not only the confrontation between the regional council and the military administration. and there are also many inter-party e conflicts between nine political forces and even intra-party ones in certain political forces. and in the sum of these three levels of confrontation, a whole gordian knot is formed, which has been getting tighter and tighter for two years now, and there is no solution to it, and with each subsequent place there is no way out in this situation. there is no way out. well, there is no such thing. if there was a light at the end of the tunnel, somewhere. who would have thought about the light in the odesa tunnel ? yes, the mayor of odesa, trukhanov , refused to appeal the decision to impose a preventive measure on him. in the form arrest with the right to deposit bail, the court session took place today what is happening in odessa
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in your opinion what is happening that should have happened in 2019-2020, justice is being served as it seems to me, i would not compare the case with the mayor of chernihiv here this is a slightly different context, we are dealing with with the mayor of odesa, who in various correctional ways was called maina and the funds of the community of odesa, and actually because of some such, i would say for sure political will and nabu and sapa who for two years tried to bring to justice but due to the avoidance of gennadyim trukhanov’s meetings, this process dragged on
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and nothing happened. and literally two weeks ago, this process actually restarted , and the higher anti-corruption court actually resumed the consideration of the case that was buried by the local courts, and this is a separate the problem with the catastrophic situation of the judicial system of corruption is that the higher e-e is actually trying to arrest you fairly, as it seems to me, and this evidence base shows that e-e trukhanov should still sit down, as it seems to me, and this is also by the way a signal to many mayors of large cities, but here we also need to distinguish, mr. taras, not the most interesting place, well, the main thing is that we heard this signal for many representatives of other local self-government bodies, taras rad , coordinator of the public network of resistance in the lviv region, we were captured with a conversation with simply horseradish, it ends like this, but i will remind you that we we are collecting for the maviks and i will add that you are huge milk because during the last half hour
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after the last announcement, we have collected more than four thousand hryvnias. please continue to report further and anton and i are saying goodbye and now we are switching to the serhiy rudenko format , serhiy rudenko will work instead of vysochanska in the verdict program , so don't switch, we will watch together glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko. have a good day and good health. today, may 16, 447 days of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers, the russian invaders attacked ukraine on the night of may 16 with missiles of various types and a number of unmanned aerial vehicles. all 18 enemy missile targets were shot down. the night attack on ukraine, according to ukrainian experts, cost the russian federation at least 120 million dollars, the drone

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