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bridget bring wrote on twitter in response to the latest russian missile strikes weapons of six missiles dagger nine missiles caliber and three ballistic missiles s-4 00 and the reaction in washington and the world to the russian missile strikes on ukraine we will talk with ostap yarish who is joining our studio right now congratulations vitaya natalya the last blow of the russians in ukraine was unprecedented in terms of the number of dagger missiles fired at kyiv, how does washington react to this and what do world leaders say, etc. well, in the american embassy, ​​i conveyed to everyone that they reacted and noted the powerful work of the ukrainian forces of air defense in washington actually reacted to how the petriv system worked, but the day before we know that the russian mass media spread information that one of the missiles allegedly hit and destroyed the petriv system , later cns with reference to own sources said that the system was not destroyed, but probably could have been damaged, said

one of the officials in a conversation with journalists , but later the white house if we are talking about official information not information from sources not information not verified white house said that in the white house they said that they could not confirm these messages that appeared in their mass media , john kirby said about it, he could not confirm anything about it in any way, but he said that if in the event that the system was damaged in some way and she demanded repairs abroad from ukraine, in that case the united states definitely helped ukraine with such repairs, however, once again i emphasize officially the white house does not confirm this information, the embassy for its part notes the work of the ukrainian air defense system natalya, we also wanted to talk with the former deputy commander of the air force of the armed forces of ukraine, lieutenant general artur artemenko, who explained why today's attack was difficult for the ukrainian defense forces. let's listen to his

comment on such a mass launch of daggers . for all this, it is a matter of the military , it is a matter of the military to shoot down six daggers at the same time was not used as far as i can remember. well, a maximum of two, taking into account the type missiles and what they will be here. here is a dagger and here is an eskander that were used for ballistic targets. they have a very high speed , so in the calculations there is very little time for the target to be in the paraske zone, and here both the reaction of the calculation and the ability of the complex itself to calculate the point-to-point meeting are important two missiles, a dagger, in general, in general, a complex trajectory, dynamic ballistic , er, unmanned lethal vehicles , low-speed, small-sized in force, and er, cruise missiles, too, well, a small fast

sleep is also enough, and also a small-sized target, er, say it was extremely difficult in terms of the number of targets, the need to quickly make decisions on combat calculations, the situation was also extremely difficult, but considering the results, it was one hundred percent the command of the ukrainian air force reported that all 18 russian missiles had been shot down. at the same time, they do not specify whether american systems were used for this anti-aircraft defense of the patriot ostapa we remember that at the beginning of may it was this system that allowed the armed forces of ukraine to intercept the dagger missile for the first time. what do american experts say about today's interception of daggers? do you know that natalia? commentators and those expert analysts who i read and researched were actually fascinated by how the ukrainian air defense system works, especially with dagger missiles

and ballistic missiles, and they say that it really looks like the western systems provided by the united states or allies in the hands of ukrainian defenders are quite effective , they say about the fact that now it is actually very important to make sure that these systems are equipped with a sufficient amount of ammunition so that there is never enough of them , that there is always enough of them also says about the fact that today's night attack on kyiv or yesterday's or previous attacks on other ukrainian cities on kyiv, among other things, confirm that ukrainian air defense forces can cope with russian super weapons, which russia calls, and this is actually quite an important factor in this the war is now, ostapa, you personally communicated with the american military at the ford village base at the time when ukrainian defenders were training on the patriot system there , what were the expectations then and maybe you have some reaction of the military to how it is now

working patriots of ukraine, you know what happened next, when we asked the military officials of the military officials at the forsil base if the petri systems could cope with the russian dagger missiles in particular, then we did not get a clear answer. it was the impression that the american officials themselves were not completely sure whether this system could to cope with such types of threats because , in principle, in real combat conditions, she has a lot of such experience in intercepting such missiles. now we see confirmation that after all, the dagger missile is being shot down over kiev and they are obviously using the patriot system. we remember earlier during the previous attack, they confirmed in theory that the dagger missile was with peterpetrivts over kiev, therefore, in principle , expectations may have even exceeded those things that were expected here in the american military officials or or military officials, including thanks to ostap for your story about the reaction to the russian missile attack in

washington and the world was watching, this is how you go , russia is building an aggressive authoritarian regime that threatens world peace, the process today stated andrea candle taylor, director of the transatlantic security program in the senate committee on international relations, on the subject of the united states in relation to russia, the former deputy secretary of state and us ambassador to russia john sullivan also testified at the meeting, the latter emphasized that if imperial russia is not stopped in ukraine, it will destroy the international order created after the second world war, these hearings and other events on capitol hill were closely monitored by my colleague kateryna lisonova, she is now in direct contact with us. greetings katya greetings, natalya rozka, more details about today's hearing, which threats we see from moscow on capitol hill and what should be the countermeasure plan , opening today's meeting of the committee on international relations from the half-chairman of this

committee, the republican jamrish emphasized that in recent years the situation has shown that washington does not actively pursue its own policy in relation to moscow, but only reacts to the aggressive circles of russia, so washington needs to form a further vision of relations with moscow and a further vision of the world with an aggressive moscow, which now actually has an authoritarian regime, the speakers are those who testified about the threat that the united states and the western world now have from russia, in particular they emphasized that russia is an aggressive state that is ready to use weapons and it is important to note that russia should not be trusted alone with examples and examples why you shouldn't trust russia , the experts emphasized that before launching a full-scale invasion of ukraine , moscow emphasized a non-aggression plan and that they are not planning any

aggressive actions against ukraine search e-e experts noted that the russian federation is convinced that it is not at war with ukraine but with the united states and in general with the west, therefore it is necessary to understand that moscow is an active threat to washington , experts also emphasized that the only possibility now is to oppose those of russia and change course of moscow's actions is to directly help ukraine win this war . limited opportunities to influence american-russian relations, and therefore the single most important way to shape this trajectory is to give ukraine the opportunity to defeat russia if russia succeeds in ukraine - this will only encourage their aggression, a military defeat of russia, on the contrary, can be the type of seismic shift that will force russia to direct its

policy to another way first and foremost russia under the leadership of putin is an implacable adversary of the united states putin believes that russia is fighting us in the so-called confrontation civilization this is a quote they stated in their recently announced foreign policy plan this is their so called concept of foreign policy of the russian federation putin and many other russian nationalists are committed to this concept that any us policy towards russia has been successful we must understand this ideology of the adversary that senators asked the experts what is the position of ordinary russian citizens regarding the current policy of the kremlin and whether we should expect any opposition to this policy, then the experts noted that today's average russians support the actions of the kremlin, the actions of putin, if during the ussr - they were more passive people who only found

a way to use it and did not have the opportunity to oppose the regime of the ussr, then today it is people who do not want to oppose the regime of the kremlin and the plan of actions of the kremlin in particular it was slandered by the fact that for more than 30 years this country has existed in an isolated information space and the only thing that russians see is propaganda from state tv channels. yes, i know you also managed to personally talk to the legislators in the ballpark about yesterday's the russian attack on ukraine, we talked about it earlier in the program, the ukrainian army launches missiles, yesterday's successful work of the pp that's how natalya, i talked like this with the compressmen, the republicans , the democrats talked like this, it's interesting what they said. i also talked with the republican shaw wilson, who last week was in kyiv he directly witnessed how ukrainian air defenses, using the western warm, could

shoot down a russian dagger missile, he directly commented on today's events , the events of last night, to be more precise, he also emphasized this and said that this in itself is an important signal and a significant event that the ukrainians can use their air defense so effectively, but in addition, most of the legislators we spoke with also emphasized that even now, the active use of this aid by ukrainians, in general, ukrainians need to provide as much proto-air defense as possible. because this is a modern type of warfare and they are very important for ukraine not only to defend itself but to win, i suggest listening to the comments of the legislators with whom i spoke today just now personally i don't like this hesitation if i'm in a war where someone attacks my home why don't i have the right to attack their home answer so i really don't like today's tactics when there are

restrictions on weapons that will reach the sovereign territory of russia it's not for me does not make any sense from the point of view of tactics, speaking tactically, it is necessary to create as many fronts as possible on which the russians will have to fight. this is my position. i want the ukrainians to be able to respond as strongly as possible . then it will be a real confrontation. i i continue to advocate for the provision of ukrainian military missiles with longer range and other air defenses. i myself served in the united states air force and it is quite clear to me that in modern warfare aviation is of crucial importance, therefore i call on all nato countries to continue to provide long-range weapons and more air assets for the ukrainian military, it is so encouraging to see how the people of ukraine give life and defend themselves with the help of air defense, also the equipment

provided by the penato allies will be very effective and it's just wonderful. i was also in kyiv a few days ago when a russian hypersonic missile was shot down from the patriot complex, so i can see how important it is to provide air defense because the war criminal putin attacks civilians and to avoid these atrocities it is necessary to provide proper equipment brave and brave people of ukraine katya, today there are also a number of other hearings related to ukraine, in particular, consideration of the resolution on the creation of a special tribunal for the punishment of crimes of aggression against ukraine, what do you know about the results of these hearings that's how natalya actually started this resolution, this resolution i is currently being considered in the foreign affairs committee of the house of representatives , in particular, it concerns the creation of a special tribunal to punish crimes of aggression against ukraine, in particular, all resolutions emphasize that the kremlin has violated all to become the un proposed these resolutions

of representatives of the ukrainian congressional focus of republicanism with patrick, a democrat , knigli, as well as a democrat, kaptur, and other legislators, and directly now this the resolution will be considered in this committee, if it passes, then it will go to the house of representatives for a vote and may be approved. this is not the only resolution that is being considered today. they are also considering a resolution calling on the russian federation to release all illegally and continuously detained americans currently in russia, in particular, an american journalist a number of other hearings will also take place today , which i will monitor and will inform katya about this tomorrow for this information and we will monitor the hearings in the congress today celebrated ekaterina presnova, the consequences of the spring counteroffensive will demonstrate to the partners of ukraine and the world what the rest of this war will be like and when it may end. in an exclusive interview with my colleague tatiana, the historian and research associate

at johns hopkins university, apple baum, spoke about it in an exclusive interview with ukraine, which was able to, for example, to win back the territory in the south of the country will be completely different than with ukraine, which did not do this, she told me it was a police award n apple bount also shared her thoughts on the reason for the brutality of the russian soldiers in relation to the civilian population and how the victory of ukraine can come from the greatest expectations now is the spring counteroffensive, the leadership of the usa and great britain are trying to reduce expectations, they say that we continue to support ukraine regardless of the results, but in fact, how much political support and attitude to help ukraine people around the world have the success of a counterattack from counter-parts, whether it is dreams of sex or killer bow, it is not only about

the success of individual battles, but also about the fact that people they want to see what is possible, whether the ukrainians are able to regain enough territory to change the situation, or whether they are able to at least frighten the russians by controlling crimea, so i think that this will affect not only aid , but also the perception of the war, whether it is a war that may end this year or whether it will continue it has been a war for decades, the political outcome of which will be determined by military victories or losses, and ukraine will be in a different position if it returns, for example, even the territory in the south. this will be a different conversation than the conversation with ukraine, which was unable to do this do we talked about this last time we tried to understand the reasons for such brutal treatment of ukrainians by russian soldiers in one of your articles that you wrote as part of the recalling project you gave an answer to it can you tell us about it kenitalas of the left side this incredible

cruelty comes partly from the feeling loss of control by russian soldiers, they could not understand what kind of society they found themselves in, everything they were told about turned out to be false, they were told that ukraine does not exist and there is a handful leaders, and as soon as you get rid of them, everyone there will be happy and it turned out to be untrue, people are hostile towards them, they defend themselves against them, there were resistance movements and they reacted with such extreme forms of cruelty that we were killed, tortured, they could not understand where they could not understand the behavior of people , all for they did not make much sense, they focused on two specific groups of people, the only ones were local elected mayors, heads of city councils , that the local mayor is a real mayor, he was elected by the community, he is popular, he has responsibilities in front of a city or a village and people respect him, they have never encountered such a person because

they do not have real politicians, they do not have elected politicians . they were arrested, most of the leaders of cities and villages in the occupied kherson region were arrested or disappeared, city councilors, people working in the city administration, civil servants, many of them were arrested , beaten, sometimes killed, they disappeared, and the second group and these are volunteers, leaders of volunteer organizations, these are people who spontaneously organized, for example, delivery to the elderly or in some cases, when the police disappeared after the occupation , night patrols were established so that people felt safe , the russians could not understand this. i think that the clash of cultures helps to explain this cruelty." is there more of an attempt by russia to restore the empire, the reason for the war is putin's belief

that ukraine is not a real country, and then when they faced real ukrainians who were fighting back from them, there was a desire for them to destroy in this sense it became a genocidal war their goal is to eradicate ukrainian culture ukrainian government ukrainians anyone who speaks ukrainian as a historian how far do you see the historical role of the holodomor here the fact that no one in russia was brought to justice for it only the holodomor, it goes back to the distant past, you know that there are other cases too many years old, but i think that russia proved unable to understand the history of ukraine and to understand what was done to ukraine in the past, to understand the holodomor to understand the attempts in the 19th century to eradicate the ukrainian language, to destroy ukrainian theaters and to stop the printing of ukrainian books in russia, they do not know the history of russian repressions in ukraine , and this is part of the reason why the russians

understood ukraine so poorly, i was very impressed by the fact that putin understands ukraine so little and he is interested in history he even wrote this funny article about ukraine and ukrainian history, i don't know where he got such information from, but he is very poorly informed , i think that this poor understanding of history contributed to the fact that this war was unleashed ukraine, can the victory of ukraine, the defeat of russia be useful for the russians, give an opportunity to work on their past today and what they did, what was done to them ukraine victory i deeply believe that the victory of ukraine could save russia, literally save russia, because russia is a country that lives at the expense of of the imperial idea, which for the russians is simply deadly, how many russians died needlessly in this war, how much blood and money was spent on this war and on other wars in

chechnya and in georgia, in syria, remember the abuses resources in russia, how much money and power did people in moscow get in the name of the empire and in the name of making russia great, and think how terrible it is for ordinary russians, so defeat gave russia a chance, including ordinary russians, so defeat gave in russia's chances, including with ordinary russians, ask if this is the country in which we want to live. this would be the best outcome of this war. i only mentioned less about the argument of the left and it is very common in latin america. the brazilian president even said that the event should stop. sending weapons to ukraine because it only prolongs the conflict is supposedly not so difficult to understand that the victims need resources to protect themselves from a greater aggressor those who use this argument that what happens to them morally and intellectually

is easy to make latin america believe that russia started the war. they think that america is most likely to blame for the continuation of the war, it is the focus on the united states and the real lack of knowledge about russia and ukraine. you know, ukraine has actually not been very active in diplomacy in latin america for the last 30 years, many leaders of latin america do not know this country. so it is a combination of not looking forward and fixating on america, as if something in the world is going badly. it has to be america. how can this war end? will and war the real end of the war will be when there will be political changes in moscow and this does not necessarily mean a change of regime and i don't even know if it means that putin has to go some people do not agree with me but maybe it could even be with him and this change is that the russians understand that

the war was a mistake and they are going to withdraw their troops but i can say that a political change must happen and it could be caused by a military defeat it could be caused by internal strife or disputes in for moscow, this can be caused simply by the huge number of victims that are accumulating and when the people of wives, mothers, sisters and friends throughout russia begin to protest, there must simply be a turning point why france left algeria in 1962 because there was such a shift. why did the british leave ireland , where the situation is strangely similar to a neighboring country, there is a common language, a long history. why did they leave ireland? it was just not worth it. people stopped believing in this war, they no longer wanted to fight. such a change must take place, and we can be quite close to it, and we can be far away, i understand that many people in kyiv think so, they understand that this is not only a military victory for them. they also

need to leave some political mark and some of what you see now is an attempt to create such a situation. thank you very much. watch the youtube channel of the ukrainian voice of america service or read on our website to collect puzzles and help restore historical buildings and cultural monuments destroyed by russia. this is an initiative of a ukrainian woman in the usa, which after the start of a full-scale war in ukraine, began to manufacture and sell puzzles, and after overcoming the break-even point , plans to direct the net profit to charity, more in the plot of maria pros to rebuild cheerfully destroyed by russia, ukrainian monuments of architecture and history in puzzles and to contribute to real

reconstruction, this is the idea of ​​\u200b\u200bthe company ukrainian puzzles, after covering the production costs, the profit will be donated to funds, not the restoration of heritage or cultural projects , says the founder iryna zhurba, before the full-scale war of russia against ukraine , she received a degree master's degree in business in hansville, alabama. and from the beginning, they decided to apply new knowledge by opening a business that will help ukraine. ukraine, but we export most of the produced batches to north america, because it is not only a kind of product, it is also a tool to communicate to the world what is happening in ukraine in such a non- obtrusive way, that is, to talk about ukraine about the destruction of memory the company produced a collection, in particular , depicting the destroyed an-224 mriya aircraft and the mariupol drama theater, the damaged karazin university of kharkiv and the kyiv tv tower, the cost from 375 uah in

ukraine and from 25 usd in plans collections dedicated to ukrainian art and picturesque places of ukraine, in general, the company sold more than a thousand puzzles in the production process, and another thousand. and in the plans to scale up the production of ukrainian, even the market is filled with puzzles in most of the truffles, which is a polish polish manufacturer, then even in the ukrainian market there is a niche, let's say on amazon is quite popular, there is a request for products from ukraine made in ukraine yes, but uh, very little is given to this request specifically for production in ukraine, our puzzles can be bought in any country in the world except of course, belarus and russia were the most stockpiled in our database, for example, in singapore and hong kong, orders were sent recently, and not all customers . of course, we know what their motivation is, but those we know are those who support ukraine or like puzzles. banni druky

is the mother of the american volunteer oleksandr druky, who shortly after the start of the war with russia joined the ranks of the ukrainian defenders , was captured by the russians and six months ago returned home after the exchange, she says trying to spread the word about the war and the importance of helping ukraine among americans at least once a month i go to a charity fair in support of ukraine at the alabama state capitol i buy ukrainian puzzles i really like them they are just beautiful and it breaks my heart to see how these wonderful buildings look now too i am very glad that the funds will be used to restore them . she is also trying to call on her friends to donate money, because she is convinced that ukraine will need a lot of help for reconstruction 12 years ago through my city a huge tornado hit and we're still trying to recover after that so i can imagine what it will take to rebuild ukraine and that's what i tell my friends who

say i don't want my money to go to war and weapons fine but send money to humanitarian issues so i give out these puzzles as gifts iryna zhurba says she wants her company to become a successful ukrainian brand , but now for its customers the symbolism is very important, what we hear from people who put together puzzles is really important for people this kind of therapeutic effect, it gives hope for reconstruction . we hope that very soon there will be a puzzle with the moment of the ukrainian victory . we will say goodbye, did you watch the program of the ukrainian voice of america service time time thank you for trusting the ukrainian

voice of america service i am nataliya lounova take care we are looking for 17-year-old dmytro afonin about the fate of this boy for more than a year nothing is known i know that when the war began the child i was in mariupol and for about a week on march 2 last year, dmytro afonin