[000:00:50;00] they do not agree with the threshold what they are destroying protect their own glory to ukraine everyone talks about supporting our country ukraine protects the whole world from the russians we have always stood for democracy and were the first to create a democratic constitution smartphones and today , for the sake of democratic values ​​and our victory, we have united the whole world, which knows that ukraine is a country of free people, victory is ours, none of us was a single day on rest my brothers here. this is my other family. wherever i am, i am a ukrainian

. we have 10% of training, and 90% of patriotism. i say in the process, how we worked, studied ourselves . heroes are not born. there will not be a country like russia at the moment, it is just a matter of time. i was told that if a look could kill, volunteers , patrons, benefactors, the administration would have killed everyone, but the weapon itself , but the weapon is aimed at saving the lives of our heroes. heroes glory to ukraine glory to heroes from monday to saturday 11:15 p.m. in marathon the only news

here is that he did not come here with a weapon , he will be destroyed. there is a sharp difference in wagner. in kyiv, before the recording, we talked with colleagues about the fact that many people know you as an expert on health care reform, at one time you were the spokesperson of the ministry of health, and now you are in military uniform. how did you decide this for yourself? the decision that you are going to war the decision was ready at the time of the full-scale authorization because uh, my friends are now comrades, already comrades-in-arms uh, for them it was also quite clear what they will do if a full-scale invasion begins, this is actually a group of honor uh-uh we uh-

with these wonderful people, they engaged in public activism, well, such performances under the president's office on the side of the case regarding the demands of judicial reform and many, many others a few weeks before the start of the war, the guys used to come to lviv. we love lviv. i live in lviv. they they come and we have a very good time in this wonderful city before the war, it was like that well, there will be no discussion, it will not begin, it will not begin . well, the agreement was that if they attack, then i will be their medic, but in this structure , the war has started for me, accordingly, what will i do? if a full-scale invasion begins, it was clear to me. because i had friends , i understood that these were my brothers in the war . you were originally a medic in the company of honor.

a close-range rifle battle is under bakhmut and you are taking part there. let's do it. what do you do now in your company ? i am a medic and there is such a position. i used to be a gunner's orderly. that is, this is a person, a combat unit in a group, eh, but this combat unit has a certain specification - this is directly assistance on the battlefield to my brothers, but with this role i entered the war for some time, it lasted for several months, i did everything that depended on me to ensure that the process of providing assistance on the battlefield was optimized as much as possible. well , accordingly, to minimize possible losses and in the first months of the war, given the fact that any of our operations were very carefully planned, i had no work for the most part . that is

, i am a medic. it didn't happen. we're returning from the war. it didn't happen. i think, ugh. but on the other hand, you ask yourself the question , well, you can call it a bit of a benefit, and that's what it really is . and then you look for an application. in may of last year, i found this for myself application of this role i fought until the autumn of last year in kupyansk while we were part of the special operations forces, i was a uav operator, this was my main specification with the background that i am a medic, then what changed was, first of all, that we became infantry

, which is an interesting situation because when we left for combat i was still a uav operator, what does it look like, after all, you get up in the morning, have breakfast, drink coffee, get into the car with your brother and go to the position , the sun is just rising, and you drive by our front lines positions where guys from the trench forecast get out, drink coffee, smoke cigarettes, you drive by them, they are dirty, neat, but dirty, well, they are all dusty and so on, then you fly all day in the evening, point artillery , all this, then you go home, arrive near the same positions and go to where there is a shower, dinner in the microwave, i was sunny in front of them, and then all the guys, even under bachmut up to the bone in the swamp near me, there are four corpses of russians in the dugout on you all day arta works and you are attacked eh morning until evening

wagner attacks our positions well what a moralist yes, yes, now, let's talk a little about the battle that i mentioned, your company honor published it on the youtube channel, uh , the battle for the last road to bakhmut, that 's what it's called. you can find this video on youtube . you and your comrades entered the nearby stryletskyi the fight with the russians, and frankly speaking, i have a lot of questions about this fight. well, the first thing is that it is very primitive in general . is it possible to be ready for such a clash , to see the enemy so close, and you have to be ready. if you want to stay alive. if you do you want to complete the task b why is it a matter of honor and the da vinci battalion in general, how does it happen, either you are fighting or training, you know, you get scared even later when you watch the video. you are scared when this whole story is happening, you are just doing

your job, this is a similar story with my medical practice, when you have a difficult child but you have a simple system of an algorithm for performing actions. when you have solved the problem, your hands start to shake, but in order to perform the algorithm, you must know the algorithm in order to perform the algorithm well. you must repeat the algorithm several times in training conditions, now with regard to the battle directly, fortunately, such battles do not happen often because, according to the configuration, when the assault group approached the dugout, those who were in the dugout with a high probability of death, this position is called zhmur, why is it mur because when we stormed that position there

, uh, we are - there are several enemies and they stayed there and stayed not because you didn't want to get everyone out of there, but simply because you can't do it physically, because you are constantly being shelled, then snow fell, then the whole thing melted and they are actually already there i'm sorry, i don't even know how to say thank you, but there was no way to get them from there. and this became our advanced position. there were difficult events around that position, and they occupied it, repelled it, then occupied it again, and when we had already established ourselves in this position, we did not they let the enemy to the position, what happened, they fired aimed shots, after preparation, they very quickly began assault actions, but not after landing, they

ran away, in addition, they also made it so that we could not see the field, they were there, they used it where we were, and we did not see this one the maneuver when they ran in, but they did not calculate that during the time that we held this position, we dug an exit from the other side , and because of this exit, the fighter on the call sign just did it. well, i say that he played achilles better than achilles did with that. that in fact this battle dragged out the silent one. it was his maneuver, we did not agree with him, he made the decision himself, seeing what was happening, that they were already at the dugout, he understood that this exit was the main exit, he understood that he would not get out of it because they were holding on to the exit

under fire by fire control, he jumps out from behind me, runs out onto the brosfor, and there is a video of how he destroys four of them, just in that story, my role, well, i don’t know, if you take the architepova, it’s a fuck, that is, the task of genderf is to help the hero do his job here are the heroes of this fight - it's quiet. and i'm also there, vlados and the bomb, we helped him do it. that is, it's a quiet fight, in general, how do you assess everything that's happening around bakhmut, because you and i are recording this conversation against the background of the statements of the founder of pvk wagner prigozhina about it is alleged that the wagnerites will leave bakhmut and leave it to the regular russian troops, and in principle we are witnessing a public conflict between the wagnerites and the russian ministry of defense and the general staff. how do you, as people who defend these positions, perceive these statements that we are doing our job well? well, believe me the time we were there

, the number of firemen became fundamentally smaller. do you believe that the wagnerites can really leave these positions? i understand. but what i don’t understand at all is how russia is organized. for me, they are just a territory of madness. millions of people are in the configuration of a state in which they are being driven to slaughter. i don’t understand what kind of idea there is inside there, some absolutely strange characters for me and all very well there is such an expression: they are gloomy, this is some kind of kingdom of darkness, and between them there are some people who

substitute something else for another. there will be no wagners in the positions under bakhmut, we will destroy the kadyrovs or their infantry or paratroopers, whoever comes here with weapons, he will be destroyed or what difference does it make, wagner , is it a lack of strength, what margin of strength do you have to stand there for a while, well, we will destroy everyone who came here with weapons, if on it will take half a year, there will be another six months of fighting, 5 years, it was 25 years, until the last one of them goes abroad, internationally recognized ukrainians, we will destroy them, mr. oleksandr, i propose to put three dots on this, thank you very much to you for this conversation, they were the first to meet the enemy, they were the first to send

the aggressor in the right direction, the first with honor, this is the slogan of ukrainian border guards today, our state border is not just a line, it is the border between light and darkness, and every day they fight to restore and protect it kudos to the ukrainian border guards. tell me honestly how we are all going through things right now so that you can’t get into your head. there are disturbing thoughts that don’t let you fall asleep. you lie like that all night and in the morning you can’t get up to start the day. this indicates severe stress.

health, how do you tell how to cope with stress, go to how are you.com to find out the enemy, they lie to make us give up, but we already know exactly how the enemy knows how to disguise themselves. russian special services create accounts in social networks similar to the page of the ukrainian military or entire units and methodical spread into depressing information we were betrayed everything is bad we have no chance they cause people negative emotions impose panic and feelings without a way out therefore critically perceive emotional information are you checking who exactly is spreading it, be careful, this can be done by the russian invaders and their agents, the psyche is protected, ukraine is protected, and i believe that our land, our country, our culture , we must protect, first of all, for the sake of our own

children. greetings, pavel. i would like to start our conversation with the beginning of a full-scale invasion . tell me, please as a father of four children, you could legally go abroad, take your family and stay there, but instead you made a different choice and started serving in the ukrainian army, can you somehow explain your motives wish, why did it happen that's how it happened, dmitry, congratulations well, in fact, it happened as it could have happened and not otherwise because i am a military man by education and with the beginning of this war well, i could not stay away under any circumstances and i can honestly admit that in the family some such meetings la too my discussions that have been going on for more than a year now, but uh, i clearly know that uh, in old age, i am convinced that i was very

old and everything will be fine. we will win, i will calmly uh, fall asleep and wake up because i did exactly that i think it's my decision we must protect our land, our country, our culture, first of all for the sake of our own children , and precisely because i have four of them, i had to go and defend ukraine for their sake, you and i have known each other for one year, and i know that your military specialty is a translator, you are a military translator, you know six languages ​​now as far as i understand, you have completely different tasks. tell me a little about it . so, i graduated from the military institute with a specialty in military translation. since then , i have changed from the army and, to be honest, i did not expect that i would end up in military service again. now i am formally called the assistant to the head of the training department, or according to the type of activity, i am the deputy head of the combat training department in the 47th separate

mechanized brigade, this is a job that is primarily organizational, that is, our task of all the officers and sergeants who serve in our detachment teams, i would say it is the coordination of combat units , maintenance of training and restoration of military capability, because we understand what languages ​​we serve, and sooner or later each of these stages will be necessary now a lot who is mobilizing and therefore, accordingly, i want to ask about what awaits the people who come to the unit, how much time is needed to prepare and carry out reconciliation so that a conditional civilian turns into a full-fledged military combatant , in general, it used to be conditional, or rather non-conditional, and a civilian was prepared, for example

private e-e was preparing to become a specialist in one or another specialty for six months , as of now, all these terms have been accelerated to one month. the so-called basic military training is still ongoing a month in various educational centers, people after that get to serve in one or another unit, sometimes it can be different , that is, for each in his own way , depending on the military specialty. you need to get some kind of professional training, whether he is a mechanic, a driver , or he will be a sapper or a signalman, and so on , it will take some time, besides, there is other than individual training, we are now talking about individual training collective preparation, when units are coordinated, starting from the level of a department, a platoon, a company, a battalion, and, for example, a brigade, this also

takes time, which, unfortunately, is not always enough , but i can state that in our armed forces, such attention is paid to the fact that the servicemen of the units are ready to fulfill their duties we all have this attention and we act in this way. that is, we go ahead after completing the previous stages. it is very important. tell us a little about the foreign training, what it gave, including the unit where you are serving. and to everyone who was with you at this time. as far as i understand, it is primarily about germany. let's just say that i won't reveal many details about it. but really, like my unit , other ukrainian units actively studied

abroad in different countries because the support of our partners is an important part of our joint victory, it is first of all an opportunity to fully immerse yourself in the educational process on a normal material base without fearing the arrival of missiles as it used to be . as we know from certain training centers the opportunity to be together and to feel the team that will later carry out combat tasks, i.e. it is one family that already being , for example, abroad in one big tent, they are already learning how they are, how they are together in the same situation, and this is an opportunity to master those samples of weapons and military equipment on which later we will actually win back our occupied

territories. was it difficult to get into the 47th brigade because at the beginning when it was a battalion, then a regiment, there was a competitive selection quite like that, shika was a company like it happened for you, in fact, i served the first six months of my military service at the national academy of ground forces, this is also unique and very useful. i consider the experience and i not only performed my official duties, but also went through my personal training. i think it is very useful for my future m-m passing the service and six months later i was transferred to the 47th separately mechanized brigade at the time when i transferred - it was just as the regiment became a brigade, but during this period a whole constellation of officers came

, first of all, the new commander of the e-e brigade - this lieutenant colonel sak oleksandr oleksandrovich, a legendary military hero of the ato in his time, a knight of the orders of bohdan khmelnytskyi, yes, a knight of all three orders of bohdan khmelnytskyi, and he is a military man to the ends of his hair, and you can really learn a lot from him, and this is a whole galaxy of military servicemen, officers, soldiers, sergeants in that of course, we can remember the founders of the 47th brigade, major shalamaga and chief sergeant markus - these are people with whom, in fact, i am convinced that we will accomplish our tasks, because he is the backbone a skeleton of real professionals has been formed, they are both military personnel and people who came from civilian life. some had previous military experience, some did not, but all of them have removed their niches.

can we say that oleksandr sak, the leaders of the brigade, others, these are really officers of a new model, the new ukrainian military elite without a doubt well, in fact, i myself already have certain life experiences, i have seen a lot, experienced a lot and i would not only talk about the army i mean, i lived abroad and studied abroad, worked abroad with ukrainians, with foreigners from different continents , that is, a certain uh already has a clear horizon and talking with such officers, for example , as oleksandr sak, first of all, i am interested , i am interested to listen to him, he can always prove something to me. what i knew is that it is extraordinary, despite the fact that this is a young pleiades of officers. he is a professional in his field . he leads it. it is very important when you

follow his commander is that in fact, it allows you to carry out your tasks and lead the same way, because if you do not trust you, you are some kind of link that will not trust, then everything will fall apart . and so on, but above all it is built on trust, because sometimes temporary indicators are such that time supports them. so only trust between specific people can save the situation in this case . i am convinced that i am not saying something too much. which is the key in the link you mentioned discipline , i wanted to ask you what you are talking about quite a lot of media-famous people, oleg sentsov and oleksandr polyinsky and

the reva brothers and the same valery markos . actually, tell me if there are any problems specifically with discipline. is it somehow this stardom? it is indicated well, i do not observe exactly some stellar part of these personalities , i can say for myself in those official situations in which i had the opportunity to observe these people mentioned, they behaved professionally, for example, the same oleg sentsov, he commands later and he does it professionally. i have never heard or seen that there were any other signals from him, how to say it, or did he have any complaints or something, he is a professional executor of his role and other people who maybe someone there was once a blogger

or an actor or some kind of famous personality uh everyone fulfills their duty this is actually uh something that hmm should i think characterizes our society no matter who you were who you are in principles in their essence you go and fulfill that part of the duties assigned to you, which are necessary to achieve victory and then everything works, i would like to mention your literary activity before the war, you published several books and novels, a collection of poems and a children's book. how is your military experience reflected in your work ? are you writing down any notes or something, or maybe you have already written some great military novel, a great human novel , of course, it has not been written yet because there is a lot of work to be done, but the notes are obviously i keep them, they are notes in my phone

i wrote several columns, several of them were published, including abroad. well, of course, poetry is written. to be honest, not as often as i would like, but sometimes it comes out in some evenings, at night when you are not busy. that's what i like about it. a word for a single line, there is no sense of pretense. that is, everything is clear there, and in this sense, i would say that this transformation happened to many of us, this transformation of honesty, i like it , well, thank you for the conversation, i wish victory to stay alive intact and howl more many, many books are a must. thank you dmitry. i am one of those who was among the first to accept war. i marched

forward under the explosions of cannons . i changed the warm blanket of colored dreams. who has long ceased to be afraid of blood and the path , a united struggle, the russian war does not stop ukrainian culture, ukrainians preserve and create it today, with the support of the european union, together we preserve museum collections and ancient architecture, together