[000:00:00;00] andrii spoke a few minutes ago. and you, now we will continue this topic with our next interlocutors. i want to be here a little bit, literally, to recommend , that is, about this in particular, the video that appeared at the start of petriv in kyiv, how much of such a video can you still calculate the location of the petriv location, is it not such a video after all, but something else is the cause of these blows, and on the one hand, on the other hand, well , he wrote: how do you like the initiative of the head of the mykolaiv oblast, mykolaiv region, ova vitaly kim , who wrote about the need to turn off the function of taking photos, for example, on apple phones or not on androids, surely you should somehow agree with the company to forcibly exclude all of this for people, or at least pass a law to chop off the fingers of those people who fast, i understand that it was an emotional and

probably not very serious post in telegram- on the channel of mr. ova mykolaivska, but how serious is this really a problem, what to do with it, or do we really have to cut our fingers when we talk about the patriot complexes, when it loses its radar , it already becomes noticeable because the means of the technical intelligence of russia are working include teachers such as a-50 which have a depth of somewhere up to 500 km and in fact the beginning of combat work of the p-patriot complex becomes noticeable because the radar is powerful it can be seen far away but the question is that the previous stage assumes that the complex must be constantly rebased but it has limited mobility components, just like the radar there moves on trailers. although it is not big, trailers are still needed, and

relatively speaking, this rebasing and uh, locations of deployment are just the main focus in advance in order for this not to be known to the enemy, and when the enemy probably launched several unmanned systems there yesterday, he also tried to check the data that was probably given to him by the intelligence agency because they could, the keys understand that there are many enemies who can, they say that to be there and carry out, well, identify the location of important objects of our defense, so that, relatively speaking, when a video appears related to the launches of our air defense systems, theoretically, it makes it easier for the enemy verification of certain data, but if immediately after launching into the complex it changes its location, then

it is quite difficult to determine the location of its placement in a new place . i think that these strikes carried out by the enemy with cruise missiles of the caliber patriots were placed by the scorers, but to kill in front is actually a new thing. now we understand that petrov defends himself and in any case it is such a thing where as we see one hundred percent impression of the daggers showed that petriv is effective enough but the places the previous base of petriv must really be protected, and this is the task of our counter-intelligence special services and other structures that must enable the enemy to receive such information. the rural expert of the director of the defense express company was with us, but now our mainland is appearing, the aviation expert bohdan dulin, this is bohdane good morning. good morning. i'll start. i wanted

to start simply with the fact that a very recent statement of the ministry of defense of the united kingdom of great britain. this is what they write in this statement of the british ministry of defense. the vulnerability of kill joy missiles is the same in the british and in general, the western world calls missiles what russians call a dagger, and the russian translation probably came as a surprise and a shame for russia, because russian president vladimir putin claimed that the system i am invulnerable to interception, mr. bohdan. how did it happen that the invulnerable system is 7.7 mach speed, everything, but it turns out that it is intercepted. yes, look, if we speak directly without the dagger system itself, we must

understand that it is still the same old eh the so-called good er soviet heritage, that is, you can’t say that this is some kind of new missile . it’s just a rather er further modernization of the existing series of soviet missiles, so they actually took a ground-based missile and made it a little more conventionally aeroballistic and so that it could be launched from thus, increasing its flight range and including the possibility of increasing its speed precisely at the final stage of use, if we talk specifically about this missile, we must understand what it actually is never before has this missile encountered such modern systems against patrial defense as the patriot system. it is always even assumed by the russians that it will be able to bypass it, based solely on the fact that the petrov missiles operate at the speed of the national point of flight together with those if we are talking about dagger missiles e the speed there, as a rule, reaches seven or more masses

, depending on certain conditions. well, but at the same time, we see that modern electronics , modern software, appropriate means of forecasting and destroying targets. they after all, they showed their effectiveness and already in real use, the dagger missile not only showed that it can be destroyed, we saw that even a mass launch of these missiles can be destroyed, in principle, in a small number relative to petre's institutions, because if we look at how eh the united states helped to protect the airspace of saudi arabia during the war in iraq. we can see there that dozens and hundreds of these systems were generally deployed throughout the territory in order to cover infrastructure facilities. what is the truth? then such old soviet missiles were used. here is the effectiveness of actually using those old e-e missiles, it was somewhat higher, but this was due to the fact that

directly before the petliot missiles themselves, they were still of the old generation, here are the new modern missiles of the modern generation showing their high efficiency against virtually any e-targets in the form of short -medium-range missiles that the russian federation is capable of producing, including, of course, not even there with its own forces, but with the use of western components. yesterday, after this massive after the night russian attack on kyiv, a post by one man appeared on the network, which spread quite quickly with the speed of light, and someone said that they shared his emotions. well , someone laughed because the post is not devoid of such drama, almost on the edge of the abyss, and where he wrote something the garden did not sleep, the woman cried, the children howled, the dogs huddled in a corner and wrote a farewell messenger to their children , ah, well, actually, people wrote that there was no such fear. i even saw a video of a woman who

could hear rockets flying over her as if somewhere out there something explodes and of course she's scared, but she sits and continues filming the video and talks to her husband about what god is going on, he says he's not worried , the air defense is working well, but this man who wrote the post is not devoid of drama, he also wrote that it was not understood by everyone but this is a turning point in the war, they say that everything was destroyed , can it really be considered such a turning point in the war as this man writes, in fact it is, because this step is not only technical, that is, in fact, he deprived russia of the last resort guaranteed damage, because we understand that before the rise of those petries on the territory of ukraine, in fact, the enemy had a means that allowed guaranteed destruction of any given target on the territory of ukraine with 100 percent disability. today, we see that with the deployment of the system, this

probability has significantly decreased and in fact, in some cases, it came close to minimal percentages there, and often even to zero , this is, first of all, secondly, this is a very serious psychological blow for the russian army as well. they now understand that their vaunted a weapon that had no analogues and did not have any countermeasures, in principle , has not justified itself to date, and the best thing around which they all united, rallied, always told that in the event that we would strike at the center of decision-making , it actually showed that such weapons on today, the russian federation does not have an e, and in principle, the level of security of the ukrainian sky itself has increased many times to date, so we can practically counter any means of the enemy in the long range medium-short-range actions sir, in this i have already quoted here in principle a very, very

fresh literally a few minutes ago there was a tweet of the influence of a belgian politician and a european politician of the leader of one of the factions of the european parliament of the former prime minister of belgium e hyperhof the state that e-e wrote that it supports the decision of pike perch and route e-e to its dutch and e-e english actually british colleagues regarding e decision to train ukrainian pilots on western fighter jets before that did they say that when britain and the netherlands don’t have it like in the 16th, that’s how belgium is, if i’m not mistaken, just has a fleet of f16s. well , what do you think these fighters will be such a turning point in this war

, they will change the course of the war yes, in fact, they exterminated or will become another so-called gay changer because they will allow not only to equalize, but also to significantly change the very arrangement and balance of forces in the air in favor of ukraine, first of all, secondly, we see which is enough in principle a number of countries have already announced that they are ready to start training. that is, we see that certain decisions have probably already been made and today they are only beginning to be so-called reformatted and move into the political public sphere. this is how we saw what happened with western tanks and what happened with the western system anti-aircraft defense, therefore, to date, ukraine's receipt of western models of air technology in the form of aircraft , helicopters, etc., it already looks only a

matter of time, and by the way, it also appeared yesterday the adviser to the head of the ministry of defense yuriy sak said in an interview with politico about the expectations regarding the supply of the f16 that they expect to be transferred to the armed forces from 40 to 60 to 50 units. how can you comment on this figure? because earlier they said that we want to have five brigades . well, look here. the question is, if we are talking about five or more, this is actually a so-called long-term strategy. that is , this is what ukraine conditionally has to go there on 25 maybe even the 30th year. that is, these are the minimum needs that, in principle, will allow us to guarantee safety, taking into account the decommissioning of old soviet equipment , the service life of which will end . over the next 10 years, if we

are talking about the figures announced today, this is still everything we are already talking about the so-called operational need, that is, the need of the port for western equipment, which today, first of all, the armed forces of the air force are able to exploit effectively, secondly they, in principle, meet the needs of combat use and the goals that today face the air forces of the armed forces of ukraine, why does she say that the f-35 is so much so that it is technologically superior to modern russian aircraft, for example, as we saw that the patriot exceeds the capabilities of the same er s400 advertised by the russians, and if we are talking about the f-35, then this is the so-called pure fifth-generation aircraft, in principle, in some parameters, it is possible that it even went a little

further, at the same time, the united states already are starting to work with the so-called sixth-generation aircraft, if we are talking about the russian federation, then in principle even those aircraft that they call themselves fifth-generation aircraft do not correspond to this class of aircraft in all parameters. that is, we must understand that the russian federation is hopelessly behind in the industry aircraft construction of modern advanced aviation platforms well, in principle, probably in the world one of the big competitors in this field eh. maybe in the next decades it will be china that, in principle, is very actively mastering and trying to build platforms of the sixth generation, there is such a picture, i ask you to show it somewhere in turkey. it seems that it was taken at some kind of air contest, and there are russian f16 and su-35 standing next to each other, and i noticed how compact the f16 is it is small compared

to such a huge russian uh airplane uh, what significance do these sizes have in general in aviation, if you can ask such laymen like that, it is absolutely a question to ask. 50 years ago, when directly a very large part of combat use was the same air battles, when directly in close contact, they actually competed who is the best pilot, who has a better platform than this, who is the best weaponry today, the weaponry that is used, as a rule, it is the so-called long-range weaponry that is, the long-range missiles are capable of destroying, detecting, destroying enemy targets at a distance of 120-150 km, that is , in fact, the planes of each other can even during a friendly battle, uh, you won’t see it during the entire battle well, the enemy can be destroyed, in addition, if we are talking about the size, then in principle it is the large heavy soviet aircraft

with the use of a large number of different metal alloys. they require more powerful engines. they require more fuel. they are therefore more expensive to operate , unlike airplanes. those that have a lower weight , which use composite materials that are not inferior in any way in terms of characteristics, including we understand that the smaller and lighter the plane is, of course, it can carry more weapons on one side with on the other hand, it is cheaper from the point of view of fuel consumption, from the point of view of its storage in principle, because it is not necessary to build a huge protected hangar from one plane , this hangar can be used to store the protection of two or three units of smaller planes. well , that is why today the physical dimensions are in principle , they take a back seat. the most important parameter for such aircraft is its so-called carrying capacity , that is, how many, what weight of weapons of what class it can lift. and, of course, its so

-called flight characteristics, that is, its direct flight aerobatic parameters that absolutely can not depend on the size, they depend more on the aerodynamics and the thoughtfulness of the plane itself. well , the main combat plane is now the american nato f-35 of the fifth generation, as far as i know . it is also quite compact. it is a small plane, besides that. if we talk about the size of the planes, then we have to understand that large planes are absolutely not effective from the point of view of the possibility of their use on floating platforms such as aircraft carriers, etc. well, no it is already said about the visibility of e-e for e-e radars and e-e stations thank you very much mr. bohdan bohdan dulin, this is an aviation expert who helps us understand a little about some such maybe profane questions well, but we are all interested in what is happening, we all want to understand why, for example, the same f16 is so important, but now about whether

it is necessary or harmful was the interview of the president. where is the washington post ? er in the word i understand that it is morning the program host of which allowed herself to joke about zelenskyi's travels and his visits and she called them a circus and this caused laughter from everyone in the studio, everyone laughed very happily, and now it's all very much discussed, there are a lot of comments under this video, people there, for example , write about the fact that well there the british, some famous people come there and say that how would you react if in 1939, when you were occupied, there were battles near paris, that's how the bbc, for example, would joke about the visits of your

government in exile.

information well, it can even show for sure this fragment of rtl, where they talk about zelenskyi's circus . i don't know, it's so simple, you know, the war in ukraine is a lot of fun, it just makes you laugh. so that they would stay here and record their, spend their funny time during the shelling, put their children to sleep, for example, in the bathtub, in the bathtub itself, in the bathroom, so that they would be more protected. i see a lot of this in that night, how funny it is. well, that's the story, but it also shows that there is tom a little bit from the ukrainian war, especially in the news , there are no interesting things. zelensky is coming , i'm asking everyone for weapons , and so on. and the publication and the washington post , where they interview zelensky, they ask zelensky questions that literally bring

him to himself, and he somehow reacts nervously, they ask about the connections between budanov and prigozhina's special services, well, it's all similar to this, this is similar to a certain trend what is this trend . bells thank you for the question thank you for this story i don't understand french very well, but from what i understood , they mentioned america and russia, as well as macron , who is interfering with something, ah, well, look what here we can say about perception, but even judging by this plot, let's start with french, you see, they use the word circus, but probably in

europe they forget what this word means in its primary meaning, because it is a roman word and it is about the arena where the competition takes place in ancient rome as well often these competitions took place for life and death, that is, i think that there is such an attempt in europe to show the war between ukraine and russia as a gladiatorial fight, that is , the developed world is sitting in the arena, maybe sitting there china, that is, people who are countries that are not related to the direction of security or countries that are safe and the lives of whose citizens do not depend on the outcome of the fight. that's how they think. and in the arena, there are two fighters, one of them seemed to be weak, that is, at the beginning, they thought that in it will not be enough to survive in this battle for a few minutes, the other is strong, but the further this age becomes, the more it becomes unpredictable, yes, it becomes even further

, more and more cruel and dangerous, and at some point this gladiator fight can spill over into the stands, for sure russia would like to have er here this fight looked like it was some kind of game, that is, there should be an element of the game, so that it would be possible for the audience to have the illusion that there is a moment that you can simply stop. so that both sides uh-uh some decision of the tribunes so someone raises a finger up, someone down, the fight stops and everything diverges. that is, this is the kind of vision of war, which wars are far away, which is not directly related to life, war, which is more like a game uh-uh, it doesn't matter whether it is there or that gladiator pain or some kind of virtual computer game, but they do not seriously affect the interests of europe, the developed world there . well, the rest of the world has this kind of view on war

, it is beneficial for russia, because it, as you rightly say, does not contribute to providing ukraine with everything it needs for victory and and it does not contribute at all to the fact that the ukrainian vision of victory and the end of the war with a trans-ukrainian victory, er , to make appropriate political decisions for the sake of it, well, i think that er, somewhere these attempts are hidden, obvious or present, er, intentional well, they won't be successful, and you know, it was during the president's trip to europe that she emphasized that they issued permission for missiles to the shadow side for some other weapons, that is, in fact, if we talk about politics and well, not everything is as bad as you would like to think. well, some people or some

politicians, why do you think this article actually came out? where is the washington post titled, as evidenced by the origins of the considered zelensky secretly planned defiant and also inside russia, why is it in your opinion implicates ukraine this is an attempt to involve ukraine in the american elections, ah, it’s very simple, you see, in 2019, we already had uh, this case, this case when uh, um, trump, uh, or trump’s team, let’s say more correctly, surely with known to trump himself, they tried to block aid to ukraine, at that time it was also about weapons against russia in exchange for ukrainian services in exchange for the fact that some evidence would be collected against biden's son and thus create obstacles for the election during the biden campaign, all this happened

on the eve of the elections it was a year ago, it happened a year before the american elections, in the 19th year, at the end of the 19th year, here we also see an interesting timing of these publications, when first the universals, and this is the press that sympathizes with the democratic parties, we must talk about this door, eh, they write an article with reference to intelligence that is not confirmed because it can be collected from one source there and it was about whether ukraine is allegedly involved in undermining the northern streams, now the washington post is publishing an article, this is also a press that is neutral, but i won’t say what is she about republican, it is still closer to the camp of the democrats, too, and they write an article about the fact that the capture of russian villages in search of long-range missiles to hit there deep inside russia goes deep into the territory, i.e. western weapons use western weapons without

the knowledge of the west against the whole of which western even about the undermining of the druzhba oil pipeline , i.e. everything says that the ukrainian side is not prepared for this , and the impression is created with the help of such verified data that, accordingly, it is impossible to increase aid and somehow contribute further. in order not to to spoil the chances of the current president of his team for re-election, it is really dangerous, or negotiations are going on now with the students of the united states about raising the ceiling of the debt ceiling and about reducing certain expenses, and maybe someone from the democratic party would like to include in this package of agreements with republicans, and the package just says that some expenses will be reduced, including aid to ukraine, that is , to make such concessions to the republicans, in particular, to the quarantine republicans that's why i say that all this is happening a year before the elections and this is what it is. again, it's a dangerous

attempt to drag in as much as to make the ukrainian topic the topic of the presidential elections, specifically ukrainian victory or peace in ukraine. well, peter, i'm the only one who is short i will ask again. but are they not fueled by any vision, in particular , well, that is, the same reaction, for example, of president zelenskyi? i understand that he was in such a stressful situation at this interview, but the reaction was absolutely adequate. in the context of the americans, in march-april 1945, they negotiated with the leadership of the ss on the surrender of ss troops and german troops in northern italy, and there were no observations that these people were involved in crimes, why ukraine cannot

use the ukrainian intelligence, the same methods to achieve victory, that is why the president's reaction was absolutely absolutely adequate, and you know that you are talking about some things that are unknown, it is not known where they came from, and you are trying to divide us and the rest of europe, the rest of the allies - in general, if i motives are also unacceptable. by the way, the journalists here are completely opaque. again, in this situation, only russia won, not the usa, not ukraine , and not europe. thank you very much. we are coming to the end of our third hour of the second five years, the third autumn or the third hour of the third part, so somehow it flies by quickly , in the next hour we will talk about the fate of the petition on the resignation of the minister of culture, which

appeared on the website and disappeared later it was difficult somehow to vote and in principle it was difficult to register it, this will be discussed in our next hour and we will also talk about the military issue, well, now we are approaching the news anna and omelnyk have a fresh selection and i will tell us what happened there during that hour colleagues about the most important of that what is happening in ukraine and the world , together with the team i will tell the news, i will start with the situation in the region and the consequences of the attacks russian troops hit the police station in boryslav in the kherson region, they hit the intensive care unit and the central department about this the regional military administration reported that about 60 windows were broken and walls were damaged