[000:00:00;00] but again, it takes time, it takes time, and we have to wait, this process is not so fast, and we can even see it happening. this process is really accelerated. yes, but until this safe zone of anti-aircraft defense is created defense, after all, it will take some time and it is not so fast. it can be implemented. well, but at least now it is clear what exactly is needed, that is, this situation. she showed how exactly this should be combined. and by the way, i think this is a great demonstration for our allies and fans, because two missiles that flew into poland, one of which, in general, they could not find it, this is also an indicator that their anti-aircraft forces also have room for improvement

and they can learn. about air defense that can still help us eh well let's say that on more distant frontiers we have to defend so and here is meant the supply of these missiles with a long range of action eh this is really something that can now break eh in this situation in with well let's say with because the russians are concentrating their weapons, how they are hitting with them at long range, is this really capable of changing the situation, these supplies from the shadow storm are we ourselves ? that's right, it's also interesting. well, then i'll start with the shadow torrent. we have an urgent problem today, a rather serious problem of these guided bombs. the russian invaders

are planning bombs . the number of these bombs still remained in the stock of the soviet union, thousands of bombs, they already produced these bombs in the russian federation, 250 fab 500 w-1500 and they began to install homemade control and flight correction modules on them, these modules are produced very quickly, or they are costagrams, they are not some factory ones elements of high technology and that's why we have this uh-uh problem with this obomba . we can't intercept them as much as possible. the optimal option is the destruction of the carrier itself, that is, alexander's aviation. let 's stop for a minute. more precisely, for a minute. for a certain time, yuriy syrotyuk just joined us, this is a soldier-grenadier of the fifth separate assault brigade of the armed forces of ukraine. greetings yuriy, you are now in the bakhmut district , that's where you should be. greetings, comrades, our

formation is located in the city and its surroundings. i'm glad to see you and tell us in more detail, what is the situation there now, what exactly is happening , because, of course, different actions are taking place, we saw that there is a breakthrough in the very place of the russians, it is so unpleasant, but what can you tell us now, from what you know, they are ongoing very heavy battles for bakhmut, they continue in a non-stop mode in such a very acute phase after the loss of the savodar . unfortunately, the russians continue. unfortunately, they have unlimited use of artillery and then mindlessly throw on the meat assaults of the wagner chvk in the city in the vicinity. we managed the situation

stabilize, drive the enemy away from the road, which led for a while through chromova. although now there are battles again on this road, the enemy is counterattacking significantly , drive the enemy away from the kostyantynivka road , bakhmut in the area of ​​the village of the ivanivka district , the canal moved there somewhere for 2.5 km forward, now already in the mountains is counterattacking so that they do not reach the ticks, which did not cut off one of its key supply routes for their bakhmut garrison, but they are afraid of very heavy enemy, now the artillery has been strengthened and they are going in the opposite direction, that is, if earlier our active defense carried out to the point that during an assault attempt the enemy is our positions. we tried to recapture the positions. now on the plans, we are actively advancing and repelling enemy positions . this is not easy, because unfortunately the enemy still has a multiple advantage, using

artillery means, mortars, spoiler. our artillery to capture klichtivka and how does it feel somehow, er, here are the consequences of that attack on the headquarters in klichtivka, when they destroyed the commander of the fourth brigade of this brigade, er, i understand that aero no, i won’t make it up now, i can’t remember what it’s exactly called was it somehow able to demoralize, at least for a certain time , or did they pull someone there additionally , in fact, the russians carried out very exhausting assaults in the days of the so-called pobedobessia, they need until may 9 to take bakhmut at any cost, they suffered a great as a result of the losses, we moved to a counteroffensive and partly partly the russian front began to collapse, so the russians began to pull up officers who were supposed to stabilize the situation and enter the battle

, well, accordingly, these officers came under direct fire of our artillery, some of them died, we also have them in the positions we saw how one of the captains of the russian army directly led his soldiers into an attack on our positions, died, lost important documents, by the way, that is, the appearance of high-ranking officers with high ranks on the line of the front shows that they are thus trying to stop the situation of demoralization of chaos that began to appear on the flanks of the bakhmutsky here, which prigozhyn constantly shouts about because she prepared to fight easily, all his soldiers go to battle under the threat of being shot, that is, they know that they have the only the chance to survive is to run to the raw materials of a house that is located either in no-man's land or in the territory occupied by the defense forces of ukraine, we don't fight like that, we don't fight with cannon fodder, respectively, where they

add, they add to the breakthrough, if necessary, we we can retreat in order to recapture these positions later, but there was a partial demoralization of the russians on the southern and northern flanks, we had successes, now the russians are very actively counterattacking , using artillery very densely, we are not losing positions, we are recapturing the ukrainian land, but unfortunately, the artillery fire is very dense and, accordingly, this it is very difficult, that is, they were forced, i understand, to remove something from somewhere and directly pull it there in order to hold the front, yes. that is, in general, colonel and captains, they do not walk along the front line. they should be in the headquarters to manage the operations of their troops, if they run into the trenches, it means that there are problems , it means that the soldiers are so demoralized , we had the impression that despite the numerical superiority and the superiority of the weapons, the russians do not believe in the success of this war, but the success of their operations around bakhmut, you see how long it all lasts, rubble

. last year, the advance is taking place , here is the advance in the ivanivskoe area, this is the southern outskirts of bakhmut, during this time they have advanced several kilometers there, we are all they recaptured it in months, almost a year, we recaptured it all in two or three days, that is, they understand that what they obtained at a heavy price and the landings that we recaptured, the positions that were recaptured are covered with enemy corpses. unfortunately, it is also one of the unpleasant stories of the war that in the summer it is not only everything flies at you, only this constant corpse smell and these trumpet flies, they didn't even take their own to their uh killed, that's why they sent are sending senior officers to stabilize the front now they are trying to concretize it unsuccessfully in unfortunately, according to my information, there are brothers there. they have a certain promotion because they offer a very simple exchange of people for people in the city

. that's why we don't enter into this crazy exchange with them, who will impose more of their people, well, let's assume that they have advanced and now to the street eh well, you can see two at a time on two streets is it somehow changes this situation that we have now there, will it mean some kind of direct change, change well, i am a soldier and we carry out orders we believe that the leadership makes reasonable and correct decisions, we will carry out any order, but the threat was the only one of the flanks that the russians constantly declared that they scared you, remember how many times prigozhin said that the ukrainian army fell into a cauldron in a trap. here it will close and everyone will die incompetently. our successes on the flanks

led to the fact that they talked about it there is no trap, this is the first, the second, we control the strategic heights outside the city from the time of bogoyar and on the side of ivanivsk, that is, the city will remain with us like in the palm of our hands, the third of the city is, thank god, the rains have already dried up and the supply of the garrison is, unfortunately, so it is under fire under fire control the enemy, the enemy is firing mortars from copper artillery, it is true, but we are holding our positions in case there is an order , if there is one. until then, we had an order to hold on and fight for the city of bakhmut, not to give ideological and propaganda gifts to putin to weaken and bleed the russian army, we carried out this order if , under certain circumstances, the soldiers would even seize the ruins of this district of apartment buildings where the ukrainian army is now occupying the heights behind us, we will see them as on a billiard table, that is, their tactics are very simple to see the outskirts of bahmut and die, that is, without controlling the heights, controlling the city in

the lowlands, this is suicide, why do they go to this suicide, why don’t they move to active defense, do not dig in, do not prepare for defense with data, spend the rest of their troops, this is a question because it is clear that after these attacks, i think the history of bakhmut will either completely end in ukraine , the story of wagner pvk will either completely end in ukraine, or will end for a certain time, because if previously they simultaneously advanced in soledar and on the northern flank and on the southern flank, so now they are enough only for these meat assaults in the very place, therefore, in principle, it will not lead to anything critically. this is the only thing putin needs propagandistic gift, any success was not achieved kyiv in three days well, they want to report on bakhmut for 400 hours a year well, i also think that this is not a problem at all , it can be seen in the palm of your hand, it is huge there, it is

the so-called donetsk ridge immediately behind bakhmut a sharp rise in the height that we are holding and we can see this city well, like in a cinema , accordingly, it will not give them anything in principle, it is incompetent , some senseless, senseless tactic which we cannot understand, but well, the mind of russia cannot understand , that is, they are so used to fighting the number, we do not skill and they still believe they still believe that they have an unlimited number of people there yuriy eh. there near the reservoir. well, this means the northern side of the city near the reservoir . the ukrainian army has already captured such heights that it is already straight. to correct it is uh strategic and all that. is this an exaggeration of his or is it really getting close? well, to the truth. well , he analyzes the situation objectively enough. he himself sees that he is driving himself into a trap that the city is so

surrounded by heights from sides so far it remains high from the side of the occupied host, this is the only height where they control where they see the city from above, we see the city from above in the southern circle, this is from the side of the ivans, we see the city from above from the side of the temporal ravine, we see the city from above from the side of the chrome and he, if objective, they themselves they drive into the passport themselves. surely no military man would lead his army to such a place, that is, we are so simple, we get the impression that the beautiful russian military leadership promised putin to capture bakhmut at any cost and now at any cost are acquired, but the people don't understand that by putting this wagner's terrorist pvc, which is more than two armies of the royal swedish army, so that you understand who we are dealing with, that is, the number of the wagner pvc, according to our intelligence data, will be 50, 60,000 terrorist fighters, the number of the army of the kingdom of sweden is 25,000 that is, we have

two armies of a european central european country concentrated within one city, and he completely finishes them off, and it is clear that even these prisoners will ask him about who has to answer for the meat grinder in which the russian troops in bakhmut are involved, that's why i'm coming, they're trying to push it all on the higher military leadership , the military leadership is trying to dispose of the handsome man and the prisoners they don't need in the city of bakhmut, but this enmity of theirs is in our hands, the more the more the enmity, the panic, the disorder the last enemy, the easier it is for us to carry out our tasks, thank you, thank you. this was yuriy syrotyuk, a soldier , a grenade launcher in the fifth separate assault brigade of the armed forces of ukraine. i thank him very much for joining us directly from the outskirts of bakmut. oleksandr, let's continue the conversation a little later, but for now . comment also on the situation in bakhmut

. i think it's appropriate, but what do we observe that they had to drag some real weapons there? well, some weapons from other parts of the front . er, to hell with the russians, did they have to do it, or can we say it objectively somehow, er, or after all, no . this did not happen. this is the first and the second. well, i have already heard such an opinion that it was precisely our successful counteroffensive under mahmut can be something that will allow more on a broad front conduct counteroffensive actions. and here it is somehow interconnected. first there near bakhmut and then in other places. what do you think about these two things? it has long been influencing the combat zone. there is even such an effect . i call it bakhmut. and this is when it is small the town affects everything that happens throughout the war zone for tens of tens

of thousands of square kilometers, that is, the russian occupiers, they are currently the russian command, it is not able to fully provide, for example, equipment or personnel by the composition, material and technical support is meant, for example , in the left bank of kherson region of its group or in the zaporizhzhia region. they have a shortage there. technical support, all these forces and means , they are sent precisely to that group of troops that takes part in the assault on bakhmut, everything is concentrated on, first of all, on the bakhmut bridgehead, everything else is already secondary, tertiary, bakhmut number one is haiti, and this caused this imbalance when, for example, in their combat zone there is a heterogeneous group of troops. it has a different

level both in terms of equipment and in the quality of even a professional component, and the worst is the left bank kherson region, then the zaporizhzhia region is better, a little better, this is the luhansk region. of course, donetsk region is their priority . although if we speak so generally about the war zone, i did not mention the temporarily occupied crimea peninsula, so far it is not such an active war zone, but in fact it is on the temporarily occupied peninsula crimea is currently the worst group of troops of the russian occupiers, the worst and the weakest, and therefore and all this was concentrated precisely on bakhmut. but what is the result? what is the result? and in the north and south-west sector, these are actions aimed at returning control

, first of all, at the dominant heights near the reservoir in the direction of the kleshivka. and if this happens , even if it is necessary, there is no such of the critical need to cut the logistical arteries, well, through the trial on the er, the bahmuta to the southern sector, and also the top and the berry are already there, why and because these dominant heights are the main ones that control over them will be returned, and we can enter on the er have a full fire control over these logistical arteries from the other side. again, i do not know the plans of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, but taking into account the fact that recently , general sirsky, colonel-general oleksandr syrysky he was again in bakhmut and he is made such a very interesting statement, namely that it is a trap for them. it is still a trap for them. therefore, baku must

be treated exactly as it was treated as a trap for the russian occupiers, and if this is so , then the events that are taking place in the city on this is directed, the emphasis is on pulling them into this trap , and then what will happen, i do not rule out the cutting of logistics, i do not rule out that further advancement taking into account the prevailing heights and, uh , already returning control over uh, arteries, logistics arteries from the south and from the north and how will it be? well, we'll see after a while. well, it's too early to tell, because these battles are very difficult. we can see that, from all sides, the russians are trying to attack with all possible types of weapons. still, it's difficult for our fighters, it 's clear, and they, well, this is this. it's really something extraordinary. what they manage

to do . and what they managed to do in these very difficult conditions, which were because we are now in the dominant position, you say yes. the height thing is, after all, times like it in this one the most commanding location there is more than 260 m high, eh. and as long as we held it, we were able to contain this pressure from the russian occupiers, and thanks to this, we were also able to keep the logistics arteries 0.5-06-05-04 under our control, but oleksandr you and i were just interrupted when yuriy joined us because they were planning heavy bombs which , by the way, are of great importance for bakhmut because this is how our troops are attacked there, you know, i would say it is a new thing for the russians they are very

wanted to use these bombs, they came up with how to use them and you said that you just stopped at the fact that for now, apart from shooting down the carriers of these bombs, i.e. planes, in principle there are no options for countermeasures. there are several options. well, the first is, of course, to use anti-aircraft defense, and with long-range missiles, this allows us, for example, to make the petro air defense system and also the sempti air defense system, which we recently received from italy, by the way, and there is a problem here it is very risky to use the complexes precisely in the combat zone, because they are the object of damage , they will immediately become the object of damage from the russian occupiers, cheering on and destroying them, so no one will do it, although , again, they really are, if we are talking about

a large radius of action, then this is 100 km plus, despite the fact that the flight distance of this gliding bomb of a russian guided bomb, and depending on the height, it is from 30 to 50 km. that is, we have twice the advantage, but it is still a big risk for complexes in which we do not have so many of us we have not received many of them yet, in general, we have been waiting for them for a very long time. and even if the cities are peaceful , but we must protect them from missile strikes on the russian invaders, the second option is the use of an air -to-air complex, that is, air-to-air missiles of such types , and also of a large range 100 km plus and that is, it can be m120 am, but the best use of them is with the western aviation , it is possible to integrate them into our aviation, but the best thing is that they work with the western, that is

, it is either an option or not an option. did we receive these missiles are another question and there is a third option and it already applies directly to the old shadow allows us to strike at the airfield. here are the phantoms that they use in the temporarily occupied territories to carry out these strikes and with planning bombs . that is, this is the zaporizhzhia region - this is the temporarily occupied crimean peninsula strikes on this airfield will force the russians to withdraw their aircraft to a much greater distance, for example, to take them to the russian federation in general, i.e. to place exclusively use airfields with the territory of the russian federation, taking into account the fact that the risks of constant attacks on the airfield and the destruction of their aircraft will increase, it is very painful for them when their planes are destroyed there. it is for them, in fact, they are worth their weight in gold. therefore, this third option can be used in order to to at least reduce

the probability of an effective attack on the territory of ukraine with planning bombs . well, in this context, of course, it is necessary to analyze this story that happened on saturday , when two russian planes were destroyed at the same time su-34 er-e seems to be su-25 if they are wrong like 35 35 and well, it was absolutely such a well, shocking event for the russians, especially since they, i understand, flew, as they say, er, through a corridor that was constantly used for bombing by the way of our areas where hostilities are not taking place. that is, it is also like this. yes, in fact, they were and flew. let's say it directly, russian terrorists who carried out terrorist acts on our

territory were flying. they thought that they were going unpunished and suddenly found out that their shot down. give us analyze this case, what it essentially means and what it could be the burial of those options that i voiced that could be used and we can draw conclusions that it can be either the use of air defense and the great radius of action or it is the use of the aviation complex and the great officially uh, no one in our country admitted that it was the practice of some of our elements on objects of enemy objects, already about the airspace of the russian federation , but precisely taking into account the fact that uh, what kind of aircraft group was it, and what was it in general a murderous group because there were their helicopters with a complex of radio-electronic warfare, so in general this was the group that carried out these terrorist attacks. it was precisely these masked

weapons on the territory of ukraine and inflicted them with impunity for a long period of time, and now something happened and they moved. well, for example, in them now the helicopters are precisely in this er in this area and they fly on the overpass, that is , at low altitudes so as not to be noticed by air defense means, and what air defense means in this case only of ukraine, and is it ukraine has such an opportunity to strike so deep into the territory of the russian federation well, apparently they are already dealing with the opportunity and i have not only the opportunity well, i have the full right to destroy its russian and military aviation in its airspace eh and well, look alexander from eh, here you are, apparently also noted that precisely in connection with the supply of long-range missiles. all these things , uh, there is such a very intensification in the world

media space of conversations about what uh, something , well, emissions of strange information about the fact that zelensky insisted on some attacks on grabbing something somewhere and some kind of indignation around this, how do you feel about it in general, because i , for example, feel about it in such a way that it is probably necessary to change this in general, this agenda of conversations about whether ukraine has the right to something our why is it considered by default that no one does not discuss whether russia has the right to attack kyiv , for example, and to seize ukrainian territories in general, but there are some stupid conversations about whether ukraine has the right to anything regarding its defense, and i have the right to everything in general, but none the less these conversations are what they show us, the pro-russian elements are active, because the stronger ukraine becomes, the more tools we have to counter russian aggression, the more such discrediting moments will be, we see, which now

, for example, began in early 2023 a wave of pacifist statements, we need peace negotiations, we must necessarily agree on rome for peace, and without any preconditions , well, that is, where does it come from, and if we see what organizations are behind such calls, it is mainly organizations that have some relation to the russian federation or even to the soviet union, even such an older organization, now they say about it pacifism - it has always been the main element of informational influence since the time of the soviet union, uh, influence on society, western society and weapons , so-called yes yes yes yes yes, and germany, from its pacifism, has become a capable country, and there is a large number of facts that the sphere will be - it is actually not a capable power structure for today, and

if we are talking about the rights of ukraine, then even in 2020 year, many international leaders declared that we have the full moral and legal right to strike on the territory of the russian federation, among them was, for example , johnson, who confirmed this . history e.e. the minister of defense of germany also stated that we have the right even to carry out sabotage activities on the territory of the russian federation, this is our full right to act on the territory of the russian federation in these conditions, and maybe something started to change in the 23rd year. it started to change, that's why we see this whole story, that's why we see that uh, here's this way. well, some kind of desperate, literally, trying to somehow push someone to try to somehow prevent someone from

persuading someone to that it is not wrong that ukraine defends itself, but as we can see , after all, those politicians who make decisions, it does not seem to have much effect, i thank oleksandr kovalenko, who told us everything perfectly, and i pass the ether to serhiy rudenko, who olga is waiting for you greetings literally in a few seconds we will start the verdict glory to ukraine - this is a verdict program my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today may 17, 448 days