[000:00:00;00] so, to change. it must have started to change, that's why we see this whole story, that's why we see that uh , this is the way. well, some kind of desperate, literally , try to push somehow, try to somehow prevent someone from persuading someone that this is not wrong, that ukraine is defending itself but as we can see those politicians who make the decisions, it does not seem to have much effect. i thank oleksandr kovalenko, who told us everything perfectly, and i will hand over the air to serhiy rudenko, who is already waiting for you . olga. greetings. we will start in just a few seconds. verdict glory to ukraine is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today may 17, 448th day of heroic sports of the ukrainian people

russian occupiers this morning the enemy targeted a hospital in boryslav and a high-rise building in kherson the white house currently does not confirm the damage of an anti-aircraft missile of the patriot complex in ukraine, which was reported by the kremlin at the same time that united states secretary of state anthony blinken admitted for the first time that russia could be recognized as a state sponsor of terrorism meanwhile, the russian occupiers continue to lose manpower and equipment, as of the morning of may 17, the russian occupiers have already lost 200,590 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 610 orks since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost 377 tanks and 7,365 armored combat vehicles in ukraine 3,166 artillery systems

600,562 rocket salvo systems 318 air defense systems 38 aircraft 294 helicopters 6,067-11 vehicles 18 ships boats 982 cruise missiles 2,748 drones 417 units of special techniques russia verbally destroyed a patriot peaceful huey africa rushes to putin's aid we will talk about this and other things for the next hour i want to introduce today's first guest - he is a political scientist author of books on how putin's propaganda works and how to make ukraine successful mykola davydyuk p mykola good day good day i wish you good health and i am glad to see you on our broadcast good day very, very much to each other, so let's start with this story with the patriots because russian propaganda

has been spreading the story for the second day that they hit the patriot anti-aircraft missile complex manufactured by the united states of america in the united states do not confirm the destruction of the patriot in ukraine , however, according to some information, the complex could have been damaged at the same time, and the spokesman of the ukrainian air force, yuriy ignat, also stated that the hm e petrov missile defense system cannot be destroyed with one strike even if it is a missile kinzhal ignat noted that the division is a command post in which the combat service tracks air targets and receives information about the air situation in the area of ​​its responsibility, which is useful for your purpose pursued by russia, which talks about what they are. as putin once said, the air defense of ukraine is being undermined by the fact that they want to somehow undermine our success in shooting down

the daggers of this hypersonic missile, which putin so bragged about. - this is actually a struggle of brands. putin positioned the daggers as super sonic, supersonic. well, but they are not like that. well, the patriots showed that they beat them. the third thing is just a show before the arrival of the chinese plenipotentiary who flew to ukraine well, putin, well, this is the message to him. in the press, look, we beat petriv, but putin should be understood. well, it’s the second year of the war . well, here you are. it’s the eighth year of a large-scale war in ukraine that neither patriots nor patriots can be destroyed with russian daggers. you can’t well, this is just the thing that he couldn't do with his stupid old bald head . well, maybe it needs more intellectual effort, maybe it needs an honest report

from his intelligence, because we know that they too they put it in me. it doesn’t quite match. i think in his education, they already beat down two dozen of these petrs, but in fact the situation looks as follows. russia , with its daggers , has really simply raised the price of the petr complexes to the sky, that is, which are now are considered the coolest in the world, the safest, which shoot down even super hypersonic missiles . well, this is just a demonstration of what putin, who in the 18th year, remember during the election campaign, told the election means that there is a super missile that can mean keeping the whole world under control, the night turned out to be nothing but another russian fake. well , which has no basis, no basis, and just as easily goes astray . especially since these shellings, especially

the day before yesterday, were called, let's say so to load the entire system at the level of a crash test, that is, in addition to daggers , other weapons and missiles and drones actually flew in order to see how much it can withstand, how it can withstand well and it was just an attempt to load the system to the maximum in order to understand its weak points, they found that there are no weak points anymore , it is their crackdown. the information that seemed to have struck the kremlin needed such a political , geopolitical, diplomatic point of view, well. but again, the americans confirmed and ours said well if some fragments were flying somewhere yes, but let's also not confuse two two trash cans on a scammer and the fact that they hit a system that we would like to simply even calculate they can't even calculate, you see them shooting all over the city, at least to find where they are. well, none of this happened

, and the russian history of propaganda looks very weak now, and what's more , everyone now understands that russia transferred the technologies for the production of these missiles to soviet technologists and china and even if tactically they wanted to win a victory that they did not win to determine the patriots, but they lost strategically, these daggers will soon fly against russia, they gave the technology to their worst geopolitical enemy. so what tactically, he is now playing with russia, because he does not want autocrats in the world to lose. yes, and this left-wing bloc that they are building, but these missiles will fly to russia, daggers made in china using russian technology will fly over moscow , but it is good that kyiv has petri systems that can catch and in russia does not exist if they let drones fly over their roofs and buildings, well, on the one hand, there is a fancy story about the kremlin yes this drone, and on the other hand, quite real drones that flew

to st. petersburg, that flew to transnistria, that flew to crimea who flew to otsi, all three long-suffering regions, that is, all this is a demonstration that there is no protection at all in russia and now they have given their most powerful weapons to their crows, well , we can congratulate them on this, stupid primitive decisions have always been a special feature of russian leaders i ask you as a specialist in russian propaganda about information and psychological special operations of russia , this is one of the important elements of the war against ukraine and the hybrid hybridity of the war introduced by the kremlin during the last eight years or 9 years already and especially in the last 15 months how this ipso has changed and how it changes with the beginning of the great war how much what they did before and what we are observing during the last 15 months how much it is different is blowing up very

much and it is clearly visible how russia is blowing up, how is this flywheel of propaganda blowing up, there are no new ideas, there are no fresh ideas, there are no bright ideas , well, even what would you call the people who are ready to take it , part of it is hiding ? sayings about nuclear ashes about a burnt-out britain there are no states he hid, this anton simenyanovsky was running around somewhere, making several statements, but then he also got scared well , simonyan herself also lowered her sails , but i think that in fact the russian propaganda understood what a monster they had created. and here is this sowing propaganda in the post-soviet space in europe well, this was actually work for fascism, they realized that they will be responsible for it in the same way as putin who gave criminal orders and as soldiers who committed war crimes. well, that's why they understood it, but now she's even trying

to go to the side a little bit, giving these super budgets and super attention to some other people, and again, no one in particular wants to pick up on it, because everyone understands what it is a short story that came to its logical conclusion. ukraine also demonstrates that if we gave putin a warrant for the genocide of children, why don't we do the same as in roland radio 3,000 elms when they were responsible for war crimes for propaganda well, they understand that we are going to make them answer for this, they know it for sure, that is why they are hiding. well, secondly , ukraine also began to behave not like a victim . for example, today a campaign was launched against telegram , which actually leaks information to the russian special services, and it is also one of the propaganda tools of the telegram channel, which is

the number one source of news in ukraine. non-ukrainian channels are not ukrainian. i don’t know bloggers. there are no ukrainian social networks there, well, on other platforms , even a russian social network is the number one source of news, well, it’s a shame, who are we fighting against, yes, and just like that? it was written by the western press, well, again, bach is such a conventional name. this is just a loophole for the russian special services, which on certain types of computers and access to the camera and microphone telegram easily allows. that is, you are sitting in your there is a telegram in the phone or computer, they can listen to it and watch it. well, it is not a job for the special services, if by chance they forgot to close the camera. yes, in the application, or for example, they also did a test. york to los angeles and this call went through a server

in peter, first of all, they said that there are no servers in st. petersburg , and secondly, why did this call go through st. petersburg, and this is also blown away, it seems that before everyone thought that telegram was really oppositional. now we see that this history is unfolding because we behave more actively, we advance, we force them to make mistakes, moreover, we understand and know that the ukrainian truth sounds louder , a better world wants to hear it than russian propaganda, so i think that the situation has changed because we have not sat down for 8 years hands, we banned their social networks. we fought . how did we learn how to fight propaganda ? we created strong ukrainian journalistic cases . its field is a field of lies and propaganda, but we played with different tools, we played with the truth , and this is just the best demonstration of how to act for other countries that take an example from us, and there are such and such, you wrote publicly

that you closed your telegram account, that 's right it is related to this, what do you advise our viewers, i.e. i, like all social networks , watch more espresso channels , subscribe to the youtube channel, subscribe to the facebook channel, but not subscribe to the russian telegram channels, which are there all the time they write lies, disinformation, who throw in special traps, who track our feelings and desires through the analysis of large numbers, and give a run, that is, they understand that ukrainians are afraid of this, they dream of this , they do this, and tomorrow it will all appear in kiselovo solovyov in propaganda, and they are starting to tell us it's all about selling and steaming, that's what i think. here's the story of when ukrainians say oh, i can't delete telegram because it's convenient, well, ask a soldier who is fighting now under a bachmut in a trench, he's comfortable there

or for example when we say that no no no duro in the opposition yes in the holy 18th year putin said that durov is the best businessman and an example of fighting extremism do you think in the eyes of putin we are not extremists extremists fascists and terrorists in his eyes we fooled him helps him the best of all the others to deal with this, so i think that we should give up this network , it’s easy to delete first your account and then the application from the phone and that’s it. because we seem to be smart people, but when it comes to our personal comfort, then we say, well, you know, russia is the enemy, everything is bad, but i will leave this to myself, because i have a second born here. well, it does not happen, if we are already fighting with russia, then we must destroy it as much as possible. someone goes there and hides pushkin's book in his bosom. in the city of kyiv, they do not want to demolish the monument to pushkin , but it would seem that there is nothing more than agitation and propaganda of russian imperialism in the words of pushkin well, we do not demolish zhadan

, well done, he drives and takes pictures. imperial monuments, but it must be done. you see, we need to defeat russia not only on the battlefield, we need to dismantle the russian putin regime and the imperial regime, which was actually built in long before putin , but to do this, we really need to cross out a part of russia on our territory and preferably all of russia, we begin to give up their energy carriers, what are we asking from ourselves and from europe we must give up their media we must give up their politicians, what is the opzh doing in the parliament, why nestor shufrych is the chairman of the committee on freedom of speech, it would seem that the chairman of the committee is the main source of news in the country, so i think that we should beat russia on all fronts, wherever we can, from their goods, businesses, oligarchs, politicians, you have all this, it is necessary to collect it in a single to throw into the dustbin of history, because if we use their products, the medals will remain their circle and they will always have

the right and the opportunity to move to our territory to kill and prepare us, this is the problem and that's why if we really want to liberate ourselves and follow our path of joining nato , joining the eu, joining such big international clubs, then we must abandon this uh, simple ringiness, we must simply become an independent , independent state, the one that was once talked about at the dawn of the 90s, and the country that we built, but which we began to lose because of corruption, because of lies, because of the oligarchs , that's why i now see that for us, this is a super chance that happens once in 500 years for purification, and we must go through it and not say, understand will it be 100 years or 50 years there, and the grandchildren will ask their grandfather why you lost to russia , you know , we used telegram like that.

to lose, and again the secrecy of the correspondence someone writes to the military someone writes to politicians someone writes more that is but they get this information they must have this information this is the biggest spy in our country and the truth is another thing about it, if in in the next program, but the biggest spy in our country is durov's telegram, which he sends to putin, and when durov says that he is an opposition type, how did you grow money? you sold your money, you earned the most on vkontakte, and putin let you out of the state, he lets you keep it there are servers, part of the team is constantly there, and how are you so oppositional? boris nimtsov was in the opposition, yes , he was killed. well, the very concept of what oppositional business is also sounds very strange . the truth is in russia. yes, when all the participants of the forums are on a short leash and on pencils putin and the kremlin, putin came at the beginning and said that the whole business will be mine or nothing, and khodarkovsky sat down, then he is now sitting with 300 m in london, he would be

very oppositional, even he does not allow himself to be overly positional a hundred billion dollars were taken from him and there were those left with such a meager fortune as for him, that's why i don't believe in it, and i actually have my own position on it, both civil and political , and military, because we should not give the enemy any access to us and explain it's comfortable, well, it's definitely not our history. that's why we need to clean up everything russian now, make the country sterile from fascism , if, for example, britain after the second world war had not cleaned out everything fascist, it would still be manipulated by fascist regimes . but they didn't want that, they wanted to develop, live and build a strong country , but they managed it, but we have to refuse that there were no wonderful german proposals , there were many politicians and people, and you remember what they said on german radio. well, but

they refused it, they destroyed fascism and became confident that fascism was destroyed and built the whole of ukraine . this is the same thing that you should do. let's go back to the humanitarian coalition to the fighter coalition , because volodymyr zelenskyy spoke about it during his of the european tour in italy, the vatican, france, germany, and great britain, yesterday president zelenskyy recorded a video address to the ukrainian people , noted the successes of air defense during the last mass attack and talked about international meetings, we will listen to the president 18 out of 18 missiles were shot down ago and we are constantly working on visits that will bring more opportunities , more assistant patriot arresti kratal hawk pump again and again thanks to all our partners in the world who helped our country with the appropriate sky defense systems yesterday what

we agreed in britain from the decisions of the prime minister that will work on the coalition of fighter jets training aircraft, the result yesterday was supported by the president of france macron and today by the prime minister of the netherlands mark trutte a good start to the coalition. thank you all. mykola, er, volodymyr zelenskyi talked a lot about weapons during his tour, and the west tried to talk to him about some kind of peace negotiations, well, at least the audience, the audience with the pope testified that er, pope francis wants to convince zelenskyi to sit down at the negotiating table with putin, we know that over the last year the pope has talked a lot about this equality, that there are two sides and that they should sit down at the table , that is, without distinguishing between what the aggressor is and who who is such a victim, well, in this case, ukraine is according to your opinion, here are the efforts that

the pope is making now, the representative of china is coming or has already come to kyiv and is having talks with the ukrainian leadership , the representatives of africa, led by the president of the south of the african republics, these are all elements of putin's peace, i.e. they all try to play on the side of russia, or do any of them sincerely believe that in this situation they can help ukraine by pushing or showing some other peace plans that before obviously, they were still considered in the kremlin, look, i think that this is a projection of the chinese peace plan, i still think that putin no longer plays a role in the peace plan, he is clearly defined as a losing aggressor, just as tomos friedman said, he is the most dangerous fool in the world and everyone understands that to put this fool

in his place, putin needs a bouncer on the street , there are already so many speaker turncoats, and just now, a chinese security guard let's say to calm down this fool who has nuclear weapons and what is actually a bigger challenge for the whole world than, for example, even gas challenges, so china took this initiative, the role of the meeting with macron is , by and large, not just the search for a peaceful solution for ukraine, it is already the beginning of the formation of a certain such left bloc between europe and china and the fact that zelensky was i think in europe this is what it looks like in reality , including the peace circle what he came to search for peace well, here is the discussion of this chinese plan because all of this coincides with the deadlines from pope before the arrival of the chinese representative well, this is a demonstration that we discussed in confirmation of my words, it is clear that they would not communicate about it publicly , but in confirmation of my words look

at the statement sent by the fundalians yesterday evening that the world should unite around zelensky's peace plan, they seemed to say about the coalition of fighter jets, and here the peace plan comes out like this. that is, it is a confirmation that it was discussed, it is a confirmation that it really is peace - mirna peace track was on the table of meetings of zelenskyi and this is exactly what history when they try when they still try to probe this peace plan, but at the same time it does not prevent them from acquiring additional weapons, at the same time it does not prevent them from obtaining e-e support and monetary and financial diplomatic any other i think that russia definitely does not offer its scenarios so they helped the chinese to impose it before and i think that now they will try to promote it well, i think that china will even be able to offer the return of crimea in the format of hong kong for ukraine, the only thing is that it will have russian conditions there well, here is the story

i see, i heard it from some western diplomats. well, but again , ukraine should not look at chinese history . ukraine should look at its own history. we live in this country. whoever this plan brought independence from whoever is trying to manipulate us or deceive us, the fact that for the west to throw off the burden of problems was great, that's good, but their problems are theirs. we have to solve ours ourselves, so we definitely will not give them we will play along in this, but we can see that after all, on the one hand , the search for fighter jets and the preparation of investing money in the training of our pilots is perfect, this is confirmation that there will be 100% fighter jets , i will tell you that from the point of view of

european public administration there will be considered a crime. if you send people to training knowing that you will not give them the objects of use, e. the guys are passing. well, here they are. therefore, this indicates that the planes will be a matter of quantity and the deadline is very important that before the start of the peace negotiations, we received these planes and quickly advanced, forced all the territories, and destroyed the russian trenches, and they now have the strongest story that they dug in. regardless of this, we will move the sky quickly, beautifully and most importantly , very efficiently with the preservation of the maximum number of lives of our boys, this is precisely the basis of what is most important to us now i need you to schedule a visit to the league. there is russia, europe in europe is poland , france, and germany. there is no great britain . well, accordingly, outside the context of these negotiations and the previous negotiations so far

, the united states of america is located, which is the responsibility of the former minister of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china, that is, li- hey, well, he is doing this european tour without great britain . does that mean that it is china, in what way is it trying to neutralize london? steer in the world and even more so in such an issue as aid to ukraine we remember what was the remains, we understand what rishi sunak and volodymyr zelenskyy could talk about, we understand that if the first f16s arrive, then obviously it could be great britain or some foreign fighter or friends of britain, denmark, for example, which is ready to support us and be a reliable partner for us and great britain, and analysts say that these extra f16s, which can arrive in ukraine as soon as possible

, are located not far from a beautiful city copenhagen, actually. i think that this is an attempt by the chinese representative to make a circle through europe and asia. it is, after all, the axis of beijing , paris, and these are the results of the meeting between sisinpin and emmanuel matron. that is, it is just an attempt to exclude britain and the united states. from peace talks and still agree within the framework of the mainland within the framework of eurasia and try to find peace for china, after all, the important story is the search for this, i would say uh, hmm , an example of leadership, look at the westerners were able to find peace, but china was able pushed and did everything as the world expected, well, this is their attempt, let's see how successful it will be and how good china is at diplomacy, because china, after all , has not played such games on the world stage. we remember the last geopolitical exits there -

this is an attempt to colonize africa and the vietnam war well, so far we do not see great success here, but in any case, ukraine is at least considering this proposal of ukraine , it will be looked at. well, again, it will not be without consultation with its main partners. no one says that ukraine immediately something will be signed there and vice versa if there is not there, if there is a healthy grain . they take place. so, once again, the west does not prevent the arrival of the chinese representative, on the contrary, they are even waiting with some intrigue to see what will happen next in reykjavík at the summit of the council of europe, representatives of more than 40 countries signed a declaration on the creation of a register of war damages

russia against ukraine this has already been reported by the prime minister of ukraine denys shmygal, according to experts. this e-e story with the registry will be the first step to bring russia to financial responsibility, namely , the mechanism of reparations and compensation e-e will be launched according to your understanding. at the current stage, what will happen to russia, it is clear that i will be with putin because the order of the international criminal court can be revoked only by judges of the international criminal court, it is valid for life until that moment, as a check until it is not this e-site is branded according to yours. is it a website or a register of losses? how likely is it that people who lost business in ukraine and three houses in the south-east of ukraine, not only in the south-east, that this register will still work and russia will simply be forced

i don't know how to pay there for several tens of years, maybe even 100 years of reparations for ukraine, it's better not to delay in time, i will take a very clear position here that it is necessary to take as much as possible there immediately, 3-4 to 5 years no more, because as soon as this fog of war settles, russia will win and will do so that will stop this flow of money, russia is not germany, which has paid reparations for dozens of years. russians are people who lack a basic understanding of the word honor. they lack the word dignity, even in relation to themselves, and russians are just criminals in a square who are definitely not will pay these reparations until the moment when the threat of an even greater punishment on themselves than what they did to us disappears, that's why i see big problems with this, we need to speed it up as much as possible. well, it's as simple as possible. as soon as we can at the expense of sums actually because this register that