[000:00:00;00] and now we are adding to the conversation dmytro boyarchuk, economist, executive director of the center for social and economic research, case ukraine, case ukraine. good afternoon, mr. dmytro nad dmytrovych, you and i are turning up the volume, i will add that the analytical non-governmental organization case ukraine today presented research on economic priorities for post-war ukraine , the reform plan itself, in more detail about this plan , about such a document, we will ask more about dmytro , you are already with us, please, yes, please

, mr. dmytro, specify what kind of plan this is of reforms for the reconstruction of ukraine after the war, how to perceive, how to work, uh, in principle, this world with him is all-encompassing, hear you. the ministry of defense there plans to strengthen the capabilities of military intelligence . this was reported by the first deputy minister of defense, lieutenant general oleksandr pavlyuk, and his words were recorded on the website of the ministry

of defense itself. issues of strategic planning were already discussed at the meeting by the deputy ministers of defense, the heads of units of the apparatus of the defense department, the leadership of the armed forces of ukraine and the administration of the state special transport service. and actually, based on the results of this meeting, the head of the committee made agreed decisions on strengthening the military intelligence capacity - this is something we really need in times of war and we have renewed contact with dmytro boyarchuk, so please continue to dmytro eh. that is, we offered eh vision a high-level framework product in order to understand how to work and how to perceive ukraine after the war

. that is, in general, everything is very concentrated analytics there. report eh as after the end of hostilities and it is possible even before that to build eh, i.e. launch an economic engine of economic growth in conditions when in fact we lack the rule of law, i.e. one of the key ingredients for the success of western countries. this the existence of the rule of law in ukraine, so far there are problems with this, it is clear that the reform is being carried out, all our western partners are concentrating on this, civil society , the government is talking about it, but the question is that it will take time to build this institution in a functional form. this is the period while one of the basic institutions is being built, a clear answer to this should be given , so far there is no such answer, in particular, the

same international organizations as the imf, the world bank, etc., they consider ukraine more as a country with a weak top, but the same world bank when they have such an index of e-e governance and there is an index of the rule of law and this index it shows that a-a our situation with the judicial law enforcement system e-e let's say so in 30 years almost did not change, changed a little, but not significantly, and it is still interesting. this index shows that, for example, the same poland that built its successful reforms in the 90s, it did not build it in an empty place, that is, in their institutions, in particular, there are courts and law enforcement agencies, they already were in

some kind of functional, maybe not ideal, but they were, they were functioning before comparing ukraine with ukraine . even in 2020, that is, as of now, we have not even come close to the level that poland had in the 90s, the challenge is very serious and the question is quite non-trivial, we put forward certain definite proposals for how to approach this, one of the basic proposals is that maximum simplification is needed in economic policy, why this maximum simplification is necessary because when in you are so-called sukhistikeit, that is, high er, well, complex, you can say about torsunty legislation, it of course allows more precisely er, targeted work with specific cases, but at the same time, it assumes that there are a lot of situations when, for example, the state in the form of an official and an entrepreneur e-

they can look at the same situation from different points of view if they look at this situation from different points of view . they need the services of judges and law enforcement agencies . in fact, simplification is needed so that these are the cases when the state and an entrepreneur or any citizen look at the same situation from different points of view in order to minimize such cases . it is known that it was promoted by kahel kidza. maybe we explain it in our report from a slightly different point of view. it is for the development of small and medium-sized businesses, and for big business, it is meant for large foreign capital . two points are important here: the

first is the insurance of military risks. it's insurance relations between the investor and the state, the so-called political risks in relation to the insurance of military risks, there are already certain developments, in particular miga, the world bank offers such an insurance tool and even a full-fledged pilot project for how much money i understand the question of political risk insurance is still an open question because, let's say, who can potentially suffer from the current inaction of the ukrainian authorities, he is certainly not protected from this and here there must be certain solutions, certain proposals that we understand that in the next five to 10 years, we probably won't be able to declare that we already have institutes, institutes, courts, judicial systems, and who should do it, do you understand the need for

the rule of law i've been hearing it for more than a dozen years. well, since i've been professionally engaged in journalism , that is, for more than a dozen years, different authorities , different presidents, the rule of law, investors have been moaning. would be adopted in the near future in order to ensure this supremacy of law not declaratively, but actually in practice, here is where this is the weak link. the so-called, well, a certain set of steps has already been worked out, and i think you have heard about it, and the reboot of the supreme council of justice, which is now underway and the higher qualification commission, that is, this certain set of tools, it is a. the question is that , for example, in the western sense of adopting a law, there is a solution to it, that is, when you have a problem, you develop a high-quality law, you

adopt this law and the decision is ready, and our the problem is that in ukraine, the connection between the written laws and real life is very weak, yes, that is, it is possible to hear such a novel, such a novel, a mistake of 22 kkhtu antitunda , that is, so that the actual laws do not work for in order to solve this, you have to adopt a law, but the laws do not work , that is, there should be a slightly different approach, in particular , the creation of incentives for the country's leadership to solve this issue better, because formally you can play with the laws for a long time therefore, one of the points that you can rely on is the actual linking of funding to ukraine to progress in these

reforms. unfortunately, we have to say that all the quality reforms that took place in our country took place under a certain pressure or something circumstances or financial necessity, then something happened as soon as the pressure disappeared , actually if the progress in the reforms disappeared , that is why the tie to financing, in particular , the tie to additional financing is not a restoration, it is definitely not one of the few chances for that so that this pe form really starts to move thank you dmytro boyarchuk economists executive director of the center for socio-economic research case country we are going further we are now attracting a latvian lawyer and politician as from the minister of justice of latvia janis bordensa glory to ukraine mr. bordon i am glad to welcome you live on the espresso tv channel heroes glory

of the day well, the key story is that a very important summit of the council of europe took place in reykjavík, in particular, it is about the creation of a register of russian criminals which, conditionally speaking, would be monetized as far as i understand. this is one of the steps to start the operation of transferring frozen russian money into money that could go to our ukrainian accounts in order to support our economy, which russia has been actively destroying throughout the entire full-scale aggression. it is primarily about civil objects. well, you are a very experienced lawyer and a former minister of justice. i would like to ask you to tell me how

realistic it would be to create such mechanisms. such a precedent that would allow the transfer of frozen money to the west to ukraine is a very important question. i think that this is a primary question for lawyers and economists in all of europe. i would like to note a case that is very important to implement. they are bureaucratized and each other is looking at each other, eh, are we going to do it right, eh, what details are there, but it is necessary to be connected to the states, here is eh, my former colleague, eh, the minister of justice and the prosecutor general the acting general, mr. garland, and his colleagues made a very simple decision, they have already specifically shown how they have already made a decision. i think this is a very important precedent, which here in europe is generally the case

, and we do not have enough mass media i have also noticed, i think it is quite a bit, but there are already precedents here. i think that after this precedent, european colleagues will move faster . yes, i agree with you. i would really like to see european colleagues move faster. also in reykjavík they started talking about creating a coalition dedicated to anti-aircraft defense in order to strengthen us somewhat, but you, as an active latvian politician, i think you understand very well where our european friends and partners give empty declarations, and where they are ready to act very clearly and quickly, and here i would like you to evaluate the current level, as it seems that the second wind has been received by the european union, in particular, we are talking about

specific military assistance from the same germany itself, but we in ukraine are used to counting tanks after they have already come to us because there were so many declarations, and now i would ask you to measure the current readiness of our european and euro-atlantic friends to help us in this next difficult moment. it's about the fact that president zelensky has now made very important important visits to european capitals . well, i assume that the president of ukraine gave very clear information and gave clear information. i think i understand. to european leaders that this moment cannot be missed anymore that for a year and a half, ukraine is one and a half years old, one type of one is fighting

the world's biggest aggressor , and it has shown itself very worthy. - not in words but in fact and in practice eh also participate in the defeat eh i think from the biggest well eh how will it be in russian eh hm enemy eh to all mankind yes some synonym is still to be found eh and now europeans, we are very possible to do this and everything in such a way political prerequisites have already been created, it is absolutely visible here, and war crimes and crimes against humanity itself are aggressiveness , aggression has already been recognized as er , russia is 100% the culprit, so now i think europe

has understood everything, er, especially after all, well, i think that this is the tour of mrs. zelensky in europe and, well, i think that now , this summer, all the receipts will be. my experience that i had in politics but i think that now there will be decisive steps and finally thank you, despite the fact that germany and france , er, we can er it is necessary to recognize your weapons. please tell me that in latvia there is a very large percentage of russians with russian passports, including those who speak only russian. how do you manage to force these people to communicate in the state

latvian language? well, this situation is the result of the occupation of latvia in 1940-45 year eh and if we now let's talk about what is happening in the occupied territories of ukraine, then we can say that for 50 years in a row this has been happening in latvia, first deportations , abduction of children, murders, and then the settlement of latvia a-a forced settlement of latvia a-a migrants from all over the soviet union the union and the education of these people, uh, well, as an occupied country, and they actually believed that latvia somehow does not exist in latvia, but it will soon be assimilated , uh, thank god, another situation happened, and

there is no such situation. what well, not at all speaks latvian . i think that now 90 percent of all russians know latvian, and someone asks if they speak . i would like to say that the latvians themselves should also be self-aware, and how can this be ensured by the legislator on the walls, where everything has actually been provided a decade ago, a couple of decades ago, since the restoration of independence, latvia adopted all laws which protects er-er practically or er-er well, it legally protects the latvian language a-and develops its use and the matter is actually in practical application, but

until now, until the last time, in fact , it is a treaty of russian aggression in ukraine er-er mmm well russia acted very aggressively in the business sphere and in the economic sphere, and here too, there were places uh, well, such an attack by the russian hypocrites and in latvia in such strategic spheres , too. er, they gave in to er in an unnecessary way. i think now, er, this situation can change . latvians themselves are beginning to understand even more that er, without using their language, you will not have an independent latvia and a good economy here , just like in ukraine, i think. вы примено эту ситуации

хорошо знант yes, we agree. thank you very much , dear minister, for participating in the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel. flew from lviv corrective missile strikes on lviv was sentenced to life imprisonment yesterday, to be more precise, the railway district court handed down a 40-year sentence to seven-year-old vladislav koziev, who photographed military objects in the lviv region and sent them to a russian and accused of treason , he began to engage in illegal activities last year , sending information to the russians about the location of military facilities and the movement of servicemen of the armed forces he also sent the coordinates of critical objects of critical infrastructure. well, thanks to the traitor, the occupiers learned at least the location of five bridges in the lviv region. well, he recorded all this on his own phone. in total, there are about 25 episodes

of information transmission. well, searches were conducted. and by the way, he is a citizen of ukraine although he was born in the city of ulan-ude, the capital of buryatia, so in russia, well, from the 8th to the 10th year, he was given a suspended sentence for fraud. colleagues of the project, collaborators with olena kononenko, see this week in the program collaborators as supporters of the russian peace claim positions in occupied melitopol 100 russia can give and why they do not release prodans from the city, even though they are offended by all residents of the liberated territory of novorossiya , the country must know its traitors in the face, that is why every week we name the names of those who work for the kremlin, this is a program

of collaborators. and i am olena kononenko. let's discredit a new batch of accomplices from collaborators from melitopol. the russians are panicking. they force them to write a receipt and forbid them to leave the city, some even had their foreign passports taken away so that they would not flee over the hill. i think this is the right tactic . all traitors should wait for our armed forces and receive their suspicions. the excitement among the sellers began due to an active partisan movement in the city recently in in melitopol, one of the main collaborators from the occupation ministry of internal affairs, 42-year-old oleksandr mischenka, was blown up in the pre-pypin invasion. mishchenko was the head of the azov police department after the occupation, he went over to the side of the enemy and incited his employees to become traitors, now this werewolf has taken his place at the concert you know who

at the same time, approximately 700 kremlin sycophants remain in the city and feel that our armed forces are approaching, hide, run away, there is no sense , we will find everyone alina without the top is also a native until february 24, melitopol was very famous in the city, because since childhood she built a career as a singer, studied vocals at the number one children's music school and took part in various international competitions. in particular, in 2020, the girl won the grand prize at the bukovel starfest international festival in the category of vocal art, but the young performer easily exchanged international competitions for a narrow perspective where a performance at the stadium can remain the pinnacle of her career when, on february 25, last year, the city was captured by the russian army alina quickly understood the rules of the russian peace and became its activist and propagandist during

the occupation of the melitopoli grids, they managed to create more than a dozen ridiculous organizations for young people, behind each of them a traditionally loud the name and the complete lack of meaning, such as the organization of the russian movement of children and youth where alina was made vice-president, after which she was actively promoted at russian prices and used first alina took part in the uni eurovision 2022 contest , the competition is univ- win 2022 type of eurovision, only students are involved, it's very large , it's very big, there were very unpopular people , and at the end of this interview, alina just breaks through the bottom, blossoms, turn to the ministry of young politicians sit down, cool people work, train, help with promotion, and also study chemistry. it should be noted when the putin machine propaganda saw an obedient singer , and such

people are very needed in the swamps . he will perform his good song from melitopol, this duet has already performed in luzhniki in 2023 in support of the soldiers who are dying for the idea that i will not change the mountains for a tired neoführer plains, it’s all a matter of habit and i won’t say any prophetic words to answer for everything . alina will definitely have to sing in the near future. she is in prison for the same collaborators. when russian troops entered melitopol with battles and seized administrative buildings, the local residents responded with thousands of protests and while

the patriots defended the ukrainian city , the traitors sat down with honor in the seats of karmanychi , such as baribin oleksandr mykhailovych , born in 1951, was born in the city of orel in russia, later moved to melitopol, where built a political career in the 13th year, barygin served as the mayor of melitopol. and in the local elections in 2020 , he entered the melitopol city council from the opoblok sanitary party. for services to the zaporozhye region after february 24, this pseudo-patriot surrendered melitopol and sold himself to the stelpukhs for the post of deputy of the self-proclaimed merykha of melitopol, galina

danylchenko, who has already been declared a suspect in collaborationism, oh, i feel that soon someone will scratch from our military or hide and tremble. during the occupation of melitopol, posypaks of the rashists begin to build careers, the occupiers are appointed to the farms as school directors, and uneducated cleaners as kindergarten managers, so nikita romanenko grew from a cemetery guard to a leading figure of the rashist organization the south is young, against flats, it doesn't mean to be against those who have passed. i love resia for the smell of black currants. melitopol residents report that myky was born and lived in melitopol from a young age at the age of 18 he began to fight for russia, spoke out against nato and supported the war from the first day of the invasion of the invaders , after february 24 he went to crimea, where he tried to improve his life by working as a cemetery guard, but something went wrong and he had to return to melitopol.

courage and since when it's rats, cowards are given orders , they won't have to wear it for a long time, it's like a label for our armed forces and subversive groups, now this head is campaigning for young people to enter rashi universities, go to russia and in every way to support those who allegedly liberated them, i want to appeal to all the residents of the liberated territories of novorossiya, very recently we returned with you to the historical motherland and in this difficult time. i want you to see and feel the colossal support . one traitor who went to russia, a native of melitopol, kristina paraskan. she was 25 before the occupation of the city. she was a photographer, and as soon as the possibility

of a career decline appeared, she did not lose her chance. appointed as the head of the occupation headquarters of the zaporizhzhia region. together, the guys are fleeing, damn it, what can russia do? the organization, together , under the leadership of a traitor, launched active activities to help the soldiers of the russian federation and their families. these chevrons, which are created later , are given to our fighters as talismans. kristina , as the head of a solid organization, has her own telegram channel with almost a thousand subscribers from among the russian slag, she posts photos adored putin, he glorifies him and lies about the shelling of civilian objects by the armed forces of ukraine in the city, he probably hopes for the protection of the russian army, which he cares so much about, while he walks calmly through the streets. but the recent explosion of a collaborator of the security forces showed that our drugs will reach everyone who in one way or another is involved in atrocities and memories remember the traitor , your mistakes were fatal, the same now

hide in the weeds, all your triumphs are colossal, then a colossus with clay feet , join the creation of a program of collaborators , send information about the kremlin the sellers to us on facebook or by e-mail, together we will send all the traitors on the trail of the russian ship, we will see it in a week on the air of express in ukraine 17:00 news time on the espresso tv channel in the studio of iryna koval, we welcome all viewers and just now about the most important events at this time now everyone is together on their native land ukraine returned from russia the child of the defenders of mariupol during the battles for the city the invaders captured the military family and their six-year-old